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| nathany | nkinkade: do we currently run varnish on a9? | 17:01 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 17:03 |
| nathany | ok, I thought so... just writing up a bug for cc network | 17:03 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, Where is the page about launching a jurisdiction again? | 17:44 |
| paulproteus | I totally misplaced it, I'm quite confused to say. | 17:44 |
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| paulproteus | Also I can't seem to register with ekiga.net from T-Mobile GPRS. | 17:47 |
| paulproteus | The idea of VoIP over lousy cell phone Internet is too hilarious for me to not try. | 17:47 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Sorry for the delay. /Deploying_Jurisdictions | 17:53 |
| nkinkade | And which phone do have that can have Ekiga and GPRS, or does it just have some other SIP client. | 17:54 |
| * paulproteus winces | 17:55 | |
| paulproteus | I'm tethering my WinCE phone to my laptop. | 17:55 |
| paulproteus | My FreeRunner could have done the GPRS too, I'm pretty sure. | 17:55 |
| paulproteus | GPRS is pretty tragic, though. | 17:55 |
| hub | the OpenMockup is trafic | 17:57 |
| hub | tragic | 17:57 |
| hub | and for SIP of GPRS, I guess most operator block it | 17:58 |
| paulproteus | When the third-party Android phones come out, if they do HDSPA (3G) and you can get root on them, that'll be pretty great. | 17:58 |
| paulproteus | The OM guys are pretty pleased with the GTA03, apparently, but since it's still vaporware I will just wait and see. | 17:59 |
| paulproteus | GPRS is *way* better than no connectivity, though. | 18:00 |
| paulproteus | So long as I don't try to SSH anywhere, it's not so bad. | 18:00 |
| hub | paulproteus: not counting the software for the openmockup | 18:00 |
| hub | that alone is a bad joke | 18:00 |
| hub | and their stupid phone is not even quad-band | 18:01 |
| paulproteus | For reasons I can't remember, I tend to refrain from calling things stupid. I'll leave that to you. | 18:01 |
| paulproteus | There, just signed my Amtrak ticket Mickey Mouse. | 18:01 |
| hub | paulproteus: because any basic GSM handset is quad-band today | 18:02 |
| paulproteus | hub, Yeah, I know. | 18:02 |
| hub | paulproteus: but no, they have decided to have 2 hansets | 18:02 |
| hub | one for europe | 18:02 |
| hub | one for N/A | 18:02 |
| hub | with different frenquencies | 18:03 |
| paulproteus | I could tether my cheesy quad-band Motorola to my laptop and get GPRS too. | 18:03 |
| hub | instead of all 4 in one model | 18:03 |
| paulproteus | Apparently it's some sort of regulatory communication issue or something. | 18:03 |
| paulproteus | iirc the chip on it supports quad band, but they disable one before shipping. | 18:03 |
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| hub | that's totally retarded | 18:08 |
| hub | my motorola is quad-band | 18:08 |
| hub | I don't see why they can't have it quad | 18:08 |
| hub | (crap motorola, but all I need is a phone) | 18:09 |
| paulproteus | Another sad story, I guess. | 18:09 |
| hub | I guess another customer lost | 18:09 |
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| hub | or not won | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | I appreciate your angry spirit. | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Oh, it's deploying, not launching, jurisdictions. | 18:14 |
| nkinkade | Yup. | 18:14 |
| nkinkade | It would probably be better as Launching_ | 18:15 |
| nkinkade | Since that the common nomenclature. | 18:15 |
| paulproteus | Frustratingly http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Special:Search?search=jurisdiction&fulltext=Search didn't find it. | 18:16 |
| paulproteus | Searching for jurisdictionS does find it. | 18:16 |
| paulproteus | The Lucene search backend would probably do an enormously better job. | 18:17 |
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| paulproteus | Oh, apparently it supports wildcards at the end of words. | 18:19 |
| paulproteus | So I should have searched for jurisd* or so. | 18:19 |
| nkinkade | That's good to know. I've never had good luck with the Mediawiki search functionality. | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | Wildcards will help. Or they could have implemented it like CivicCRM and made the wildcard char be %, like SQL. | 18:20 |
| paulproteus | That's horrifying. | 18:21 |
| paulproteus | Seeing things like that make me deeply afraid that I can SQL inject anything at all. | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | It's pretty weird. | 18:22 |
| nkinkade | Well, not weird, but just not expected. | 18:22 |
| nkinkade | I'm used to using % in MySQL, but not as a wildcard in a webform, which does give the feeling that they are passing the thing right on to MySQL, but I doubt they are. | 18:23 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Bovinity: Neither of you have a problem with some reboots? | 18:41 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: nope | 18:42 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Have a blast. | 18:42 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Is a7 clear to reboot? | 19:03 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sure | 19:04 |
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| OsamaK | hi, paulproteus | 19:50 |
| OsamaK | you told me last time, if you remember, about a way to test the translation, I want to know how to do that again.. | 19:51 |
| OsamaK | anyone can help by the way :) | 19:53 |
| paulproteus | OsamaK, Hey now | 19:59 |
| paulproteus | OsamaK, Once it's committed to the CC Subversion repository or if you've entered it in via Pootle, we can make it live at staging.creativecommons.org. | 19:59 |
| OsamaK | paulproteus, can I send you a po file, then you commit it for testing? | 20:00 |
| paulproteus | Well, it's Michelle, I think, who hands out internationalization accounts typically. | 20:01 |
| paulproteus | Maybe you can email her and CC: me so I can be kept in the loop? We should talk with our other Arabic translators before replacing their work with yours, I think. | 20:01 |
| paulproteus | nathany, nkinkade, what do you think? | 20:02 |
| OsamaK | paulproteus, I sent a message to <michelle at creativecommons.org>, as you told me last time, and she introduced me to three other Arabic translators, one of them asked me to complete my translation. | 20:05 |
| paulproteus | Okay, great, can you just reply to that message and CC: me, and I'll ask if it's okay if I commit your version? | 20:05 |
| OsamaK | so should I keep on with Michelle? | 20:05 |
| OsamaK | paulproteus, your mail? | 20:06 |
| paulproteus | Reply to the message with the one who asked you to complete your translation and attach your PO file. | 20:06 |
| OsamaK | your mail is.. :) | 20:07 |
| OsamaK | paulproteus, BTW, po file is about 75% complete, but still, I need to test it. | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | asheesh at creativecommons | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | Great, 75% is reasonably good! | 20:08 |
| OsamaK | I'm just guessing :) | 20:08 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: OsamaK: Yes, the thing to do at this point is to reply to Michelle and the CC Jordan project leads and attache the PO file. | 20:14 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, note that it is not complete, it just for testing.. Is there an easier way? | 20:15 |
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| nkinkade | OsamaK: It is possible to test your PO file without actually committing anything, but I'd want to get the OK from CC Jordan first. | 20:16 |
| nkinkade | I just want to make sure that they feel that they have the final say in everything, which, when it comes to translations, they do. | 20:17 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, again, can I 'just' test the file on the 'spare' website, especially when it doesn't need committing. | 20:21 |
| OsamaK | paulproteus, check you mail and tell me what do you think. | 20:21 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: Would you send me the PO file? If you've just sent it to paulproteus then he can forward it to me. | 20:22 |
| OsamaK | I sent it to him. | 20:22 |
| nkinkade | Okay, he'll just forward it to me then. | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | I'll give it to nkinkade too. | 20:23 |
| nkinkade | I can get it running on our testing server so that you can have a look. | 20:23 |
| OsamaK | great. I'm waiting. | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Did you forward me the message? | 20:27 |
| OsamaK | what's yu | 20:30 |
| OsamaK | your mail | 20:30 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: nkinkade@ | 20:31 |
| OsamaK | how script are your mails :-P | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | script? | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: Got it. | 20:33 |
| OsamaK | I meant secret | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | Not very secret at all, but I guess I'd rather have the email in one less publicly visible log, even if it only avoids just 1 spam message from showing up in my inbox. | 20:36 |
| OsamaK | BTW, how long does it take to apply the new test translation, nkinkade? | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: First I've got to convert the PO file to a CC-style PO file (logical keys), then I have to upload it to the test server and rebuild the MO files. It shouldn't take more than about 10 or 15 minutes. | 20:38 |
| OsamaK | nice. | 20:38 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, FWIW if you just commit it, that gets done automatically. | 20:40 |
| * paulproteus works on mozcc | 20:41 | |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Okay, good to know, but I didn't want to commit this. | 20:42 |
| nkinkade | I just want to drop it temporarily on staging to see what it looks like. | 20:42 |
| * paulproteus nods | 20:42 | |
| nkinkade | I was glad to see that po2cc has -i and -o arguments | 20:43 |
| nkinkade | I've never run it that way, but it worked. | 20:43 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, btw, Arabic is a rtl language, is there special setting for this? I saw Hebrew working well. | 20:48 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: I think it's something that gets set by the utility that generates the pages. | 20:51 |
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| OsamaK | nkinkade, ping | 20:58 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: Just ran into a little problem. | 20:59 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I just sent you an email with a post-commit hook failure. | 20:59 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Sweet. | 20:59 |
| nkinkade | I think the problem is pretty clear. | 21:00 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, well, can you email the URL, I got to go | 21:00 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: The URL? | 21:00 |
| * paulproteus blinks | 21:00 | |
| nkinkade | It's because ./bin/cc_engine on staging is now ./bin/cc_engine_labs for some reason. | 21:00 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 21:00 |
| nkinkade | I have no idea how it got that way, and neither did nathany. | 21:01 |
| nathany | was /etc/init.d/cc_engine blah blah right? | 21:02 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Not only that, but /var/www/staging/cc.engine/bin, and other stuff in that same checkout. | 21:02 |
| nkinkade | Actually, until I noticed it day before yesterday (yesterday?) there was previously no init script for cc.engine staging. | 21:03 |
| nathany | i don't have the bandwidth to look at this at the moment -- i need to get this cc0 code integrated and commited and then i'll be updating staging | 21:03 |
| nkinkade | Somehow one showed up, and referring to labs. | 21:03 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: No problem. It's not critical at all. Just odd. | 21:04 |
| nathany | yes, very | 21:04 |
| paulproteus | Maybe no one ran a full "buildout" until I did a few days ago. | 21:06 |
| paulproteus | And only then did it apply an ages-old change. | 21:07 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: That could be. | 21:11 |
| nkinkade | I guess we can either leave it with all those references to labs, or try to clean it up. I gave up after a a number of attempts. | 21:12 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: http://staging.creativecommons.org/license/?lang=ar | 21:13 |
| paulproteus | I'll just fix the scripts to be _labs. | 21:13 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I think that's the path of least resistance at this point. | 21:14 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: It seems to be handing rtl correctly. | 21:14 |
| nathany | nkinkade: paulproteus: i'm re-building cc.engine for staging now | 21:18 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Cool. | 21:19 |
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| paulproteus | Cool. | 21:21 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Any chance that in the work with cc.engine that we could draw a line between staging and production? | 21:28 |
| nathany | i'm not sure what you mean | 21:28 |
| nathany | something other than trunk v. production? | 21:28 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Right now it's not really possible to fully launch a jurisdiction on staging without it also affecting production. | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I mean license_xsl. | 21:29 |
| nathany | you may not know the answer to this, but i'm assuming that's either because of license-xsl's many branches or because of the i18n strings | 21:30 |
| nathany | probably the former | 21:30 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Did you go away? | 21:45 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I came back, if that changes anything. | 21:46 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: It does. I'd like to pose a git questions ... rather solicit your help. | 21:46 |
| nkinkade | I'd like to get rid of the branch merged_cc in drupal.git and add a new one named cc_production. | 21:47 |
| nkinkade | Do I just delete the remote branch and then create a new one from commit: ba1821f1717ffbd5cb3eb81202291d167770cb14 | 21:47 |
| nkinkade | Or do I just remove it, then checkout cc_staging and then git branch cc_production? | 21:48 |
| * paulproteus blinks | 21:48 | |
| paulproteus | There is more than one way to do it, generally. | 21:48 |
| nkinkade | Or am I totally lost? | 21:48 |
| paulproteus | I think your first plan sounds fine, assuming that commit is what you want to be the latest revision on that branch. | 21:49 |
| paulproteus | Your second plan sounds weird. Keep in mind that local branch names are independent of remote branch names; in that plan, as far as I can tell, you're missing a push step. | 21:49 |
| nkinkade | In that case I might as well just make it a branch of the most current commit. | 21:49 |
| nkinkade | Because from your merge operation to the present moment I've only added .gitmodules and civicrm as a submodule. | 21:50 |
| nkinkade | So that might as well be part of cc_production. | 21:50 |
| paulproteus | Sure, sounds good to me. | 21:50 |
| paulproteus | Right, because the insanity of my merge was only a missing .gitmodules. | 21:51 |
| paulproteus | Great. | 21:51 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: I just deleted the remote branch, since my local branch called merged_cc is still tracking the right thing, couldn't I now just check that out and then push that the a new remote branch name? | 21:55 |
| nkinkade | (I may have some terminology wrong) | 21:55 |
| paulproteus | If what you're saying is true, then I think the answer is yes. | 21:55 |
| paulproteus | Try it. (-: | 21:55 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 21:55 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I'm studying Operator, which seems to be less painfully slow than current MozCC metacore. | 22:07 |
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| nathany | ok | 22:12 |
| nathany | you might try disabling extractors one at a time to find the culprit(s) | 22:13 |
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| paulproteus | It looks like we're doing something half way from Operator to Piggy Bank. | 22:13 |
| nathany | that seems accurate | 22:14 |
| paulproteus | Since Operator it seems doesn't store the metadata. | 22:14 |
| nathany | that's right | 22:14 |
| nathany | it also has a much more limited extraction profile | 22:14 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: When I do a git merge, shouldn't I notice local changes? | 23:04 |
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| paulproteus | nk.. bye | 23:39 |
| paulproteus | I wonder what he means "notice." | 23:39 |
| paulproteus | I need a shoulder to cry on. | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, The RDFa extractor in MozCC turns the whole page into a string and then does regex matching to find xmlns: declarations. | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | My mind is blown. | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | I haven't finished reading the source to see if that happens every time you switch to a tab, not just the first time a page loads. | 23:43 |
| paulproteus | Saner would be XPath or even iterating across all the DOM elements. | 23:43 |
| paulproteus | This is just terrifying. | 23:43 |
| paulproteus | No WONDER it's slow as Molasses. | 23:44 |
| paulproteus | ...wait, even with that commented-out, it's still slow? | 23:47 |
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