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| Bovinity | i really ought to look at that freehand picture before passing judgement | 01:12 |
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| Anilo | Hi, can anyone help me? | 08:28 |
| paulproteus | What do you need? | 08:34 |
| paulproteus | see the topic. | 08:34 |
| Anilo | yes i know but i registrated yourself at http://translate.creativecommons.org/ and i want to help with translations. | 08:35 |
| Anilo | but my language is not there. i can translate to Czech and Slovak language. | 08:35 |
| Anilo | i was redirected to find pootle admin fo CC, but i dont know where can i found him | 08:38 |
| paulproteus | Awesome! | 08:38 |
| paulproteus | For now, email webmaster at creativecommons.org. | 08:38 |
| Anilo | ok, thaks for help:) | 08:39 |
| paulproteus | I'm a little sleepy here, otherwise I'd be more help! | 08:41 |
| Anilo | you helped me a lot:) | 08:43 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: morning (er, noon) | 16:13 |
| nathany | can i ask you to look into a non-critical civicrm weirdness? | 16:14 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Good morning. | 16:14 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 16:14 |
| nkinkade | Sure, what's up? | 16:14 |
| nathany | if you look at http://support.creativecommons.org/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=1 you'll see the entry to TechSummit registration | 16:14 |
| nathany | registration seems to work (yay) | 16:14 |
| nkinkade | I was also thinking to fix that issue with the "Go Back" button and recurring payments. | 16:14 |
| nathany | but clicking the iCal links give an access denied issue | 16:14 |
| nathany | oh, excellent | 16:15 |
| nathany | i looked at the civicrm code but can't even determine what permission it's failing on | 16:15 |
| nkinkade | Was the CiviCRM code hard to follow/debug? | 16:15 |
| nathany | no, i just didn't see any permission call at all | 16:15 |
| nkinkade | I guess it could be a Drupal permission, and there are all sorts of access rules. | 16:15 |
| nkinkade | I'll check it. | 16:16 |
| nathany | i thought maybe you'd have better luck since you've been deeper in it recently | 16:16 |
| nathany | thanks | 16:16 |
| nathany | yeah, i had to create a CiviCRM ACL to allow people to see the event | 16:16 |
| nathany | mlinksva: ping | 16:17 |
| nathany | nkinkade: don't know if it's a useful data point but i get access denied whether i'm logged in to drupal or not | 16:17 |
| nkinkade | Good to know. | 16:18 |
| mlinksva | nathany: hi | 16:24 |
| nathany | mlinksva: see http://support.creativecommons.org/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=1 for the new online registration | 16:25 |
| nathany | i'm blogging now | 16:25 |
| mlinksva | nathany: fantastic | 16:31 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: re: the ical thing, try deleting cookies for the domain and try again. | 18:31 |
| nathany | nkinkade: still fails | 18:32 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It should work now. | 18:45 |
| nkinkade | http://support.creativecommons.org/civicrm/event/ical?reset=1&page=1&id=1 | 18:45 |
| nkinkade | It took me a while to figure out which ones, but it was a Drupal Access Control issue. | 18:46 |
| nathany | excellent, thanks much | 18:46 |
| nathany | nkinkade: did you end up having to twiddle civicrm ACLs or just drupal permissions? | 18:46 |
| nkinkade | Just Drupal permission. | 18:46 |
| nkinkade | Specifically, and I don't know why, but I had to enable "Register for events" by anonymous users. | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | I assume this is what we want, right? | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | Not sure what registering and viewing an ical have in common really, but that was what did it. | 18:47 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yes, that sounds fine | 18:55 |
| nathany | i didn't even see that permission when i was looking | 18:56 |
| nathany | sigh | 18:56 |
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| mib_cod8yr | hi | 20:01 |
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| Steren | better | 20:02 |
| paulproteus | Agreed. | 20:04 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: do i have to do git submodule init after i clone mediawiki.git, or after i checkout a branch? | 20:07 |
| Bovinity | or at all? | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | You should do it after you switch to the CC skeleton branch. | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | Both git submodule init && git submodule update; | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | Or rather the acawiki branch, since you're using that instead of the raw skeleton. | 20:10 |
| paulproteus | brb. | 20:11 |
| Bovinity | ah! | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | Hmm? | 20:11 |
| Bovinity | ok, that makes sense then :) | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | Okay, great. (-: | 20:11 |
| Steren | nkinkade: Hi, I've still no clue concerning my frozen acawiki issue. In fact it's a new clone of the mediawiki repo and it's using the same database than before. Do you have any idea of what I have missed ? Some file permissions ? php sessions considerations ? database acces ? | 20:18 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Let me take a look. What is the problem again? You can't edit pages? | 20:19 |
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| Steren | nkinkade: well pages aren't protected and you can't edit them, it's the same as if you don't have the right | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | Steren: I'll take a look right now. | 20:21 |
| Steren | nkinkade: don't try mainpage, this one is really protected | 20:21 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Is your email address confirmed? | 20:23 |
| Steren | nkinkade: yes it is | 20:23 |
| Steren | nkinkade: on the web, I found some people talking about php session data folder | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Try it now. | 20:26 |
| Steren | nkinkade: YES WE CAN (edit now) | 20:26 |
| Steren | thanks | 20:26 |
| Steren | nkinkade: what was the problem ? | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Wait. I commented out all of the $wgGroupPermissions lines. I suspect that how that is handled has changed in this version. | 20:27 |
| Steren | oh yes, maybe it's a version related issue. | 20:28 |
| nkinkade | So, my suggestion would be to figure out how group permissions changes between 1.12 (1.11) and 1.13. | 20:28 |
| nkinkade | I say this because commenting out those permission lines makes it work, but I suspect that it may leave the wiki more open to edits/spam than you may want. | 20:28 |
| Steren | yep I'll investigate this. but that's strange, I ran the update php script and never read about new group permission system. | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Hmm. Not sure. Okay, I'll leave it from here and you'll investigate this? | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | Whatever you may find, definitely let us/me know because I'll need that same info in the near future. :-) | 20:30 |
| Steren | yes now that I know where is the problem I'll work on it | 20:30 |
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| paulproteus | (-: | 20:33 |
| Steren | nkinkade: are you editing LocalSettings.php right now ? | 20:34 |
| paulproteus | Steren, Actually, did you do php maintenance/update.php yet? | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | You need to do that between upgrades, obviously. | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | I thought I'd mention that in case you missed it. | 20:35 |
| Steren | paulproteus: yes,I had to do this on the upgrade | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | Okay, good. | 20:35 |
| Steren | it did some database moves | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | Bust a database move | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | Steren: I was. Sorry. Now I'm not. | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | Well, I wasn't actively editing it, but had left it open in vi. | 20:36 |
| Steren | yes sure | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | Steren, I'm going to assume you're A-OK as far as git help then. | 20:39 |
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| Steren | paulproteus: Yes I learned a lot concerning git during the past two days | 20:40 |
| paulproteus | Awesome. (-: | 20:40 |
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| Steren | nkinkade: ok I fixed it by using the autoconfirmed group instead of the emailconfirmed group | 20:51 |
| Steren | it seams that the last one is not recognized anymore in the last MW version http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=33800 | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Ah. That somewhat makes sense, because when I manually entered title=Home&action=edit it mentioned something to me about not being in the autoconfirmed group, yet my address was confirmed. | 20:52 |
| nkinkade | (sorry "emailconfirmed" group) | 20:52 |
| Steren | nkinkade: oh yeah, in fact if we stil want the emailconfirmed group we have to add it manually by adding " $wgAutopromote['emailconfirmed'] = APCOND_EMAILCONFIRMED; " | 20:53 |
| nkinkade | Anyway, that's good to know. By the way, some things about the 1.13 interface looked pretty nice. | 20:53 |
| mlinksva | the tech team is expanding, apparently | 20:54 |
| mlinksva | http://sniffingthebeaker.blogspot.com/2008/10/delving-into-unknown-territory-ruby.html | 20:54 |
| mlinksva | but NY needs to do a language correction whilst in boston :) | 20:55 |
| paulproteus | Yaay! | 20:56 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm surprised you didn't have something to say about Ruby. | 21:01 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I left a comment and it's awaiting moderator approval. (-: | 21:03 |
| paulproteus | w00t, AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'initialize' | 21:04 |
| nkinkade | That error looks familiar. :-) | 21:05 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, time for me to look into it. | 21:05 |
| paulproteus | That seems to be Mozootle's gentle way of saying "User not found." | 21:05 |
| mlinksva | one small step for a dog named chandler, a giant leap for astronauts everywhere | 21:06 |
| mlinksva | http://blog.chandlerproject.org/2008/11/04/osaf-board-changes-and-project-next-steps/ | 21:06 |
| nkinkade | It would be much more intuitive if it were to just say, "User not found." | 21:06 |
| paulproteus | I bet. | 21:08 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, That AttributeError seems to come from Mozootle's support for using LDAP as a user backend. | 21:14 |
| * paulproteus disables that a bit better | 21:15 | |
| nkinkade | I guess it's nice of them to support LDAP. | 21:15 |
| paulproteus | But it would indeed be interesting for us to have some sort of unified username experience across our websites. | 21:15 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I've thought that same thing numerous times. And also for managing logins to the servers. | 21:16 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Ya. | 21:16 |
| nkinkade | It's something I'm sure we'll look into in the not-distant-future. | 21:16 |
| paulproteus | I about that 'not.' | 21:17 |
| Steren | hey Bovinity I never had the opportunity to say it, but all the CC network design rocks. I love the "ink" style. Is it made under illustrator, photoshop, both ? | 21:19 |
| Bovinity | Steren: thanks! | 21:19 |
| Bovinity | Steren: all illustrator | 21:19 |
| Steren | Bovinity: That is what I was thinking, well congrats, it's the first time I see a so much convincing vector ink design | 21:20 |
| Bovinity | :) | 21:20 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: Do we want to create the NC image with the Q (Quetzal) in the middle for Guatemala, of should we have them make it? | 21:34 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: we can do it | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: What sort of timeframe are we looking at? I don't think there is a hurry, but I'd like to be able to let them know an ETA. | 21:38 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: tomorrow at the latest, probably | 21:39 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: That's more than soon enough. I wouldn't have flinched had you told me 3 weeks from today. | 21:40 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, What's the normal way to add a project to Pootle? | 21:51 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: A whole new project? | 21:52 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, but maybe I'll try reading the docs first. | 21:52 |
| nkinkade | I'm not sure. I've never had to do it. I would imagine it could be done through the admin interface. I know that's not helpful in the least. | 21:52 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Yeah, Admin -> Projects | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | Well, that bothering you isn't going to help me actually *is* of some use. | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | I'm most interested in the question of where one puts *.po or *.pot files. | 21:53 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: <pootle root>/po/<lang code>/<project name>/<po file> | 21:55 |
| nkinkade | At least that's how it's done on ours at the moment, but that may be configurable. | 21:55 |
| * paulproteus nods, thanks. | 21:56 | |
| nkinkade | And in this case <pootle root> = /var/www/translate.creativecommons.org | 21:56 |
| * paulproteus nods | 21:57 | |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I botched that. | 21:57 |
| paulproteus | whatevs. | 21:57 |
| nkinkade | Switch <lang code> and <project name> | 21:57 |
| paulproteus | I found the relevant path in my Mozootle. | 21:57 |
| nkinkade | So I'm just blathering to no purpose? Not unusual for me, sadly. | 21:58 |
| paulproteus | At the "nods, thanks," I found the relevant analogous directory. | 21:58 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, I want to restart the staging license engine. What's ze command? | 22:40 |
| paulproteus | I'm on a7, and: | 22:40 |
| paulproteus | + sudo su root -c '/etc/init.d/cc_engine-run-cc_engine restart' | 22:40 |
| paulproteus | Error: The directory named as part of the path /var/run/license-engine/cc_engine-zdaemon.sock does not exist. | 22:40 |
| paulproteus | (line 8 in file:///etc/license-engine/cc_engine-zdaemon.conf) | 22:40 |
| Steren | bye | 22:40 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: /var/www/staging.creativecommons.org/cc.engine/bin/cc_engine restart | 22:41 |
| paulproteus | D'oh, thanks. | 22:42 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: if you go to http://acawiki.org does the sidebar get cut off? | 22:50 |
| paulproteus | Er, username and password? | 22:51 |
| paulproteus | I'm in. | 22:52 |
| paulproteus | It doesn't seem cut off to me. | 22:52 |
| Bovinity | yay | 22:52 |
| paulproteus | I'm on eee. | 22:52 |
| paulproteus | (+ Fx + Ubuntu) | 22:52 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Any ideas about the slim campaign widget. | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | I noticed the layout is broken on my blog and also that of mecredis. | 22:59 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: oh yeah, you emailed me abotu that... it didn't look broken to me | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | In my Firefox it breaks. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | 3.0.3 on Ubuntu | 22:59 |
| Bovinity | could be a linux fonts issue | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. It doesn't break in Midori, for example. | 23:00 |
| Bovinity | renders without issue for me | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | It's not looking right in Epiphany either. | 23:01 |
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| nkinkade | Could be a font thing, though. | 23:01 |
| Bovinity | they both use Gecko | 23:01 |
| Bovinity | what's Midori? | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | Midori is another free browser based on Webkit. | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | I rather like it. | 23:01 |
| Bovinity | <3 webkit. the most consistent engine ever. | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html | 23:02 |
| nkinkade | And there's a version of Midori than runs nice and fast on my Freerunner. | 23:02 |
| Bovinity | hm, acawiki looks liek a real website now | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | Firefox worked, but it's a bit of a beast on the Freerunner. | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | But in any case, I'm feeling like the widget might not be looking right for a lot of people using Firefox. | 23:03 |
| mecredis | layout seems to be ok on OS X | 23:04 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Firefox on OS X? | 23:08 |
| mecredis | yes | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | I checked your blog earlier and the widget doesn't look right on your site either in my browser. | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | It looks mostly okay, but the "Donate" button is wrapping below the amount box. | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | And on my site as well. | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | So it's clearly a browser issue for me. | 23:08 |
| Bovinity | yes | 23:09 |
| nkinkade | And since I have no special setup, I suspect that other will see this same thing. | 23:09 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: what does the EEE say? | 23:09 |
| Bovinity | http://natha.nkinka.de/ | 23:09 |
| mecredis | yeah, it was doing that | 23:10 |
| mecredis | but now it seems to be fixed | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: would it help to see a screen shot, or are words enough? | 23:11 |
| Bovinity | a screenshot would be useful | 23:11 |
| Bovinity | as would reports from linux firefox users that aren't you | 23:12 |
| nkinkade | I just tried to recruit Nathan Y, but he went idle right as I sent the message. | 23:13 |
| paulproteus | Heh. | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | http://a7.creativecommons.org/~nkinkade/broken_widget_layout_firefox_3.0.3_ubuntu.png | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: ^^ | 23:14 |
| mecredis | yeah, thats what mine had looked at | 23:15 |
| mecredis | * like | 23:15 |
| Bovinity | definitely a font issue, heh | 23:15 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: You have Firefox on Ubuntu. Does the slim widget look right to you? | 23:15 |
| Bovinity | wow, jumbo type. | 23:15 |
| Bovinity | perhaps i didn't override form elements properly | 23:15 |
| paulproteus | http://labs.creativecommons.org/~paulproteus/tmp/2008-11-04-acashot.png Bovinity | 23:16 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: at what point did it fix for you? | 23:16 |
| mecredis | cant remember | 23:16 |
| mecredis | a couple of weeks ago | 23:16 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: ugh, that width thing is worse than i expected. useful shot, tahnks. | 23:16 |
| paulproteus | Sure thing. | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, BTW you can ssh -X into my desktop. | 23:17 |
| nkinkade | So Bovinity, I haven't added or changed any of the default fonts. | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | You may not have an account, though. | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | But I can give you one on it 10.0.2.2. | 23:17 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: You're an Ubuntu/Firefox user. | 23:18 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: indeedero | 23:18 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: oo, yes, that would be neat | 23:18 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: what do I need to look at? | 23:19 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: how does the thin widget look on support.creativecommons.org/widget ? | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: Does the widget look right for you the blog of mecredis: http://fredbenenson.com/blog/ | 23:19 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, username bse? | 23:19 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: sure | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: It looks fine there. | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | Is it my stylesheet? | 23:19 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: the dashed line cuts through the donate button | 23:19 |
| paulproteus | bse / pwnsauce | 23:19 |
| paulproteus | Please change it soon. (-: | 23:20 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: ok, then it's interferring with your WP stylesheet, and i probably didn't override the forms, as i pondered | 23:20 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: Is the Donate buttone below the amount box? | 23:20 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: i'll add it to my task list and get back to you | 23:20 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: yes, donate is on botom | 23:20 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Is this something easy enough to fix? | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, FWIW it's Debian, and you may end up with OS X fonts depending on how the the X server works. | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | You could use VNC instead to be sure to get my fonts. | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: Thanks. | 23:21 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: no problemo | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | Just a confirmation that it's not just my install that is displaying that badly. | 23:21 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: nope, your fonts worked... or the OS X X11 comes with the correct fonts. | 23:24 |
| Bovinity | now the gtk theme on the other hand... fail. | 23:24 |
| Bovinity | oh wtf, the widget looks fine still | 23:25 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, Okay. | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, If you run gnome-session, you'll get a more themey world. | 23:27 |
| Bovinity | this should be interesting... | 23:28 |
| nkinkade | https://reg.my.screenname.aol.com/ | 23:28 |
| Bovinity | nice, i can has dock. | 23:28 |
| nkinkade | That's great, they issued the cert from as their own CA, and Firefox rejects it. | 23:29 |
| nkinkade | And apparently Safari may as well. | 23:29 |
| paulproteus | www.isobamapresident.com | 23:29 |
| paulproteus | My mom called to say that she found that website uproariously hilarious. | 23:29 |
| paulproteus | c.f. ismccainpresident.com | 23:29 |
| Bovinity | great use of CC.. http://beeroverip.org/random/ | 23:48 |
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| nkinkade | I may have to file a bug to get a decent beer up there. | 23:54 |
| nkinkade | One other note: apparently beer means nothing to Floridians. You consider yourself lucky if you find a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. | 23:54 |
| Bovinity | that's a shame | 23:55 |
| nkinkade | It was my experience back in '94 when I lived in Daytona Beach, but I was too busy drinking Busch Light 12 packs for $4.99. | 23:56 |
| paulproteus | I finally heard the ad about Bud Light being oh-so-drinkable. | 23:56 |
| nkinkade | In the bottle, no doubt. | 23:56 |
| nkinkade | Which ad is that, paulproteus. | 23:57 |
| nkinkade | ? | 23:57 |
| Bovinity | pbr is more drinkable than any form of bud | 23:57 |
| paulproteus | e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LWSujLz7kw + http://commercial-archive.com/node/145898 + http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/creative/news/e3i149edf3e04ae016898915a336f27426b | 23:57 |
| nkinkade | I'd have to agree with Bovinity on that account. Though sometimes, _sometimes_, an ice-cold Budweiser on a hot day can be nice. | 23:58 |
| paulproteus | I don't think I've ever drank Bud. | 23:59 |
| Bovinity | corona extra is way more refreshing on a hot day | 23:59 |
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