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| nkinkade | nathany: Do we have any policy on the use of national currency symbols for the NC term on the Deeds? | 17:50 |
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| nkinkade | The code is there to do the switching, and does so in a few cases. | 17:50 |
| nathany | nkinkade: not a policy, exactly; we've done euro and yen | 17:50 |
| nkinkade | CC GT would like to have the Quetzal symbol there instead of the $. | 17:50 |
| nathany | mlinksva: you around? | 17:51 |
| nkinkade | Renata says they have the image made up already. If they provide an adequate image, is this something you would have a problem with me implementing for them? | 17:51 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Where are you? | 17:51 |
| nathany | boston | 17:51 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i'd rather punt on this until we decide on a more blanket policy | 17:53 |
| nathany | since there is some added complexity (minimal, but existing) | 17:53 |
| nathany | i'll email you and ML now -- i'd just like to get his input since the euro/yen thing happened before I was cto | 17:53 |
| nkinkade | The code seems pretty straight-forward in cc.engine/cc/engine/licenses/standard.py, but I definitely wanted to get your input before I promised anything. | 17:54 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: link to the Quetzal? | 17:55 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: She just sent it to me, let me look. | 17:55 |
| nkinkade | It's going to need some work to make it like the others. | 17:56 |
| nathany | nkinkade: just sent the email; if mlinksva is +1 I'm fine with it | 17:58 |
| nathany | btw, Bovinity / nkinkade, i think we could simplify it further by making different CSS classes for jurisdictions | 17:58 |
| nathany | if they have a special symbol we just add it to the CSS and override the symbol | 17:58 |
| nathany | (ie, every non-commercial block gets a "xx-nc" class where xx is the jurisdiction) | 17:59 |
| Bovinity | nathany: that's already doable, as far as CSS goes | 18:00 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: She had send me a PNG, which I'll forward to you, but I just asked her for any original Photoshop or GIMP data. | 18:00 |
| Bovinity | the .nc class specifies the NC icon as a background image. so localisation in the css wouldn't be hard | 18:00 |
| nathany | wouldn't we just need to add another class that overrode the .nc background? | 18:01 |
| Bovinity | yep | 18:01 |
| nathany | right, that's what i meant | 18:01 |
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| Bovinity | well | 18:06 |
| Bovinity | that sure is a pretty icon | 18:06 |
| * Bovinity has been foiled by the coffee machine, again. | 18:07 | |
| nkinkade | Yes, it's quite fancy, that icon. | 18:08 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: any news on the segfaulting issue with liblicense? | 18:24 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, Not yet, I'm afraid. | 18:35 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: ok, just email when you do then. | 18:40 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, Okay, but feel free to keep annoying me until I do. | 18:58 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: hey, any news on the segfaulting issue with liblicense? | 19:01 |
| greg-g | ;) | 19:01 |
| paulproteus | Not yet, I'm afraid. (-: | 19:02 |
| nathany | greg-g: oh, damn, were we supposed to have a call that i spaced? | 19:05 |
| nathany | or had i pre-emptively cancelled today's? | 19:05 |
| paulproteus | nathany, that's "on which I spaced" | 19:06 |
| greg-g | nathany: you preemptively cancelled it | 19:06 |
| greg-g | nathany: my dent was about marcus from CC.ca | 19:07 |
| nathany | ok, cool | 19:08 |
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| Steren | hi | 20:02 |
| paulproteus | Howdy Steren. | 20:08 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Can you do anything with an image made in some program called Freehand? | 20:09 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yes | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | I'll send the CC Guatemala stuff to you then. | 20:09 |
| Bovinity | ok | 20:09 |
| Steren | Hey paulproteus, my last git move wasn't so smart too. I just wanted to add a new file, but committed more than that. And now if I try to revert, there is some submodule issue :( It's my last commit on the acawiki branch | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | Steren, Aww, sad. | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | Let's see. | 20:11 |
| Bovinity | git commit -a = often bad! :/ | 20:15 |
| Steren | Bovinity: yes, but in fact I've been doing this since the begening | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | Steren, Hah! | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | You removed the submodule and replaced it with the actual files. | 20:19 |
| Steren | paulproteus: yes, I feared that, but as Bovinity said, I only did a commit -a as usual | 20:20 |
| paulproteus | Maybe you didn't git submodule init or something in this checkout? | 20:20 |
| Steren | yes I think so | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | The easiest thing to do, IMHO, is to (1) reset the remote branch to throw away the last commit, then (2) do a fresh clone, and (3) more carefully add your changes. | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | We could also fix your existing clone, which wouldn't be *too* hard either. | 20:22 |
| Steren | ok I'll restart again, I don't mind. | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | Okay, cool. | 20:23 |
| Steren | paulproteus: So to clone and start my acawiki branch from cc_skeleton, do I need to deal with the submodules ? | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | Steren, Er, I don't suggest you totally restart your acawiki branch. | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | I suggest we just update code.creativecommons.org to throw away your *most recent* commit. | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | But yes, I suggest you use submodules everywhere, since cc_skeleton uses them. | 20:25 |
| Steren | ok | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | You're welcome to "unwind" that remote branch by one commit yourself if you're comfortable doing that. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | I have a clone of the repo, so you can't mess anything up too bad; I can just fix it if you do. | 20:27 |
| Steren | Can you fix it and copy/paste here the commend you use ? | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | Okay, sure. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, ping | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Hi. | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, We have this "spare" 500G external Seagate disk that was intended for Virginia to use for backups. | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | We also have 110G free on the / disk in the backups machine. | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to move Ani's Time Machine backup off the 1TB disk. Her full backup seems to take up about 22GiB. | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | There are 280GiB free on /media/backups. | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: That seems like a reasonable amount of space to me. | 20:37 |
| paulproteus | I'd rather not use the external drive unless we have to, so my question is - where should I move everyone's Time Machining onto, in preparation for announcing Time Machine instructions. | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | I think /media/backups just have a4, and some archival stuff for apps, a2, and a3. | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: /media/backups is probably fine, as I've been intending to jam most of the backups on the 1T disk. | 20:38 |
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| paulproteus | Cool, that's what I'll do then. | 20:40 |
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| paulproteus | Steren, http://pastebin.com/f118fc7bc | 20:41 |
| Steren | paulproteus: great! | 20:41 |
| Steren | nkinkade: I just wanted to ask, is the acawiki database backed up somewhere every night ? | 20:42 |
| Bovinity | Steren: is the acawiki checkout on a8 correct and up to date? | 20:50 |
| Steren | Bovinity: it isn't, in fact I'm currently working with it, and since I merged the new mediawiki verison, there are problems on the website | 20:52 |
| Bovinity | Steren: ok | 20:53 |
| Bovinity | time for lunch then. | 20:53 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Yes, all the databases are backed up. | 20:54 |
| nkinkade | Why? Do you need last nights snapshot? :-) | 20:54 |
| Steren | nkinkade: no no, just to know if I have to worry about making database backups | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | Steren: The database is backed up each night and at any given time we can retrieve one that is up to a week old ... after than they drop off the face of the earth. | 20:56 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: quick question | 21:13 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Shoot. | 21:13 |
| nathany | the code for support.cc.org that generates the number for the thermometer | 21:13 |
| nathany | is it just grabbing all completed contributions from a starting point? | 21:13 |
| nathany | wer\ | 21:14 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I believe that may be the case. | 21:14 |
| nathany | we're going to do registration for the techsummit with civicrm and will need to exclude those from the thermometer | 21:14 |
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| nathany | i think we can just do that by contribution type | 21:14 |
| nkinkade | We're digging our CiviCRM hole deeper, I see. | 21:14 |
| nkinkade | ;-) | 21:14 |
| Bovinity | uh oh | 21:14 |
| nathany | (I created a new one for registrations, id = 6 | 21:15 |
| nathany | heh | 21:15 |
| nathany | yes | 21:15 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I don't see why that should be a problem. | 21:15 |
| nkinkade | Let me double check the script. | 21:15 |
| nathany | thanks | 21:15 |
| nathany | i'll brb | 21:15 |
| nkinkade | I think I only fixed something about it a while ago, but someone else wrote it. | 21:15 |
| * paulproteus thinks he may have. | 21:16 | |
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| nathany | nkinkade: that's correct | 21:18 |
| nathany | paulproteus: nope, civic action wrote it | 21:18 |
| paulproteus | OH, that end of the code. Right. | 21:18 |
| nathany | nkinkade: if you can point me to the file on a9 that handles that URL, i can investigate, too | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I was just going to look for it myself. :-) | 21:19 |
| nathany | :) | 21:19 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: a5:/var/www/creativecommons.org/therm_total/total.py | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | It's part of the ccidonor module. | 21:34 |
| nathany | uh, not that one | 21:34 |
| nathany | that just polls the URL | 21:34 |
| nathany | i mean the thing that actually generates the content @ the URL | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | The ccidonor module. | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | It's in the modules directory, along with civicrm. | 21:36 |
| nathany | ok | 21:36 |
| nathany | but i thought you had hacked on it recently to make it return the total, not just a list of donatoins | 21:37 |
| nathany | that's what i was asking about... filtering those out by contribution type | 21:37 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Like I was saying earlier, I don't see why that shouldn't be possible, if not ridiculously easy. | 21:41 |
| nathany | good, can you do it, please? :) | 21:41 |
| nkinkade | nathany: So just exclude contribution page id 6 and that's all for now? | 21:42 |
| nathany | not contribution page | 21:42 |
| nathany | contribution type | 21:42 |
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| nkinkade | Okay. | 21:42 |
| nathany | as a sanity check we should be able to add that filter and have the reported total remain the same (since we haven't had any contributions from that yet) | 21:42 |
| nathany | thank you | 21:43 |
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| nkinkade | I might get dumped offline here in a while. The electricity is supposed to be out in the building from 4pm to 8pm tonight for some major maintenance. It hasn't gone off yet, but it could at any moment I suppose.. | 21:46 |
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| Steren | That's weird, since the new acawiki set up, everything seams protected from editing, even if the page is not protected. I tried disabling all extension, its the same. Does someone have an idea ? | 21:59 |
| * paulproteus shakes his head | 22:01 | |
| nkinkade | nathany: Done. | 22:02 |
| nathany | nkinkade: excellent, thanks | 22:02 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Bovinity: How frequently is the therm updates? | 22:03 |
| nathany | every 5 min | 22:03 |
| nkinkade | (updated). | 22:03 |
| Bovinity | oh, i thought it was slower than that | 22:03 |
| Bovinity | good to know | 22:04 |
| Bovinity | Steren: safe for me to work on the acawiki skin now? | 22:05 |
| Steren | Bovinity: yes I think so, but the wiki is still "frozen" I can't figure out why | 22:09 |
| Steren | Bovinity: you can use the brand new mediawiki.git branch | 22:09 |
| nathany | Steren: any chance it's a permissions issue? (just a thought, but a lame one) | 22:10 |
| nathany | (file system permissions, that is) | 22:10 |
| Steren | nathany: I've think about it, but since pages are stored in the database, I don't see what permission to grant to what | 22:10 |
| nathany | right | 22:10 |
| Bovinity | fyi, in account creation "This reCAPTCHA key isn't authorized for the given domain. More info " | 22:14 |
| Bovinity | Steren: ^^ | 22:14 |
| paulproteus | Steren, re: recaptcha: Create a key for the "domain" called "org," and use "localhost.creativecommons.org" if you're working on localhost. | 22:15 |
| paulproteus | (Yes, "org" works as a domain, and then reCAPTCHA allows its use anywhere that's dot-org. That's how the freeculture.org recaptcha keys work.) | 22:15 |
| Bovinity | and just as i thought, i can't create a character without it | 22:15 |
| Steren | Bovinity: I could create a account whitout any problem on the server, are you trying on localhost ? | 22:16 |
| Bovinity | Steren: o | 22:16 |
| Bovinity | Steren: i'm trying on acawiki.org | 22:16 |
| Steren | ok I'll follow what paulproteus told | 22:16 |
| Bovinity | i guess i'm living in the future | 22:17 |
| Bovinity | acawiki.cc.org is the place to be. | 22:17 |
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| Steren | Bovinity: and you should know that I lost some images from the pages. I forgot to save them before doing some stupid moves | 22:18 |
| Bovinity | Steren: i noticed | 22:18 |
| Bovinity | i think i recall what hte missing things are though | 22:19 |
| Bovinity | wtf, all my technology except google calendar has updated its clock automatically | 22:21 |
| Steren | paulproteus: where should I add this domain key to recaptcha ? | 22:22 |
| nkinkade | Steren: In the LocalSettings.php file. | 22:24 |
| * paulproteus nods in nkinkade's generatl direction | 22:25 | |
| nkinkade | $recaptcha_public_key and $recaptcha_private_key | 22:25 |
| paulproteus | lol! re: Cthuugle Calendar | 22:25 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Those are the two variables you need to set, and you should have those 2 keys in hand already. | 22:26 |
| Steren | nkinkade: well, in fact I don't have them in hands, what account should I use to connect to their website ? | 22:30 |
| Steren | my account ? | 22:30 |
| paulproteus | Once you generate a .org key with whatever account, you just plain win. | 22:31 |
| paulproteus | So I say sure, use your own account. | 22:31 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Like paulproteus says, anyone can create an account at recaptcha.net. | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | Just make one for yourself and then you can go about generating keys for whatever you like. I think make keys for 15 or so domains, maybe 14. I forget. | 22:34 |
| Steren | Well, I'm going to bed. So for the moment acawiki is fully up to date, every feature request from the beta is done. Except that the wiki is still frozen. I'll investigate this tomorrow. | 22:44 |
| Bovinity | i'm going to try and get the skin changes done by the end of day | 22:44 |
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| Steren | Bovinity: ok, concerning the man_woman image from the sidebar, the image was set in the MediaWiki:Sidebar page | 22:45 |
| Steren | and not in CSS | 22:46 |
| Bovinity | hmm, ok | 22:46 |
| Bovinity | Steren: can you set me as beaurocrat/sysop before you go | 22:46 |
| Bovinity | ? | 22:46 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, If not feel free to ask me to hack the DB for you. | 22:46 |
| Steren | Bovinity: sure | 22:47 |
| Steren | Bovinity: hum, how do I do this ? | 22:47 |
| Bovinity | yeah, nothing i like more than hacking a mediawiki DB for missing permissions :/ | 22:47 |
| Bovinity | Special:Userrights | 22:48 |
| Steren | yep I'm on it | 22:48 |
| Steren | Bovinity: ok it's done | 22:49 |
| Bovinity | Steren: thanks | 22:49 |
| Steren | bye | 22:50 |
| paulproteus | Ciao Steren! | 22:50 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: What did you make, if anything, if that Freehand icon from CC GT? | 23:27 |
| nkinkade | (And you get points if you say either "broach" or "paper airplane," by the way. | 23:27 |
| nkinkade | ) | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 23:29 |
| paulproteus | I thought it was spelled brooch, though. | 23:29 |
| nkinkade | It could be either way, I believe. | 23:30 |
| nkinkade | But maybe you are right. Maybe "broach" is a verb only. | 23:30 |
| paulproteus | "A brooch (also known in ancient times as a fibula, and not to be confused with broach)" write Wikipedians at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooch . | 23:30 |
| paulproteus | But http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/broach has it your way. | 23:30 |
| paulproteus | Battle of the secondary sources! | 23:30 |
| nkinkade | And I think that Princeton's Wordnet has the pin-meaning at "broach" too. | 23:32 |
| greg-g | damn, Obama is funny, goatse'ing everyone: http://www.barackobama.com/splash/volunteer.html | 23:32 |
| nkinkade | And paulproteus, on that same word note, I question your spelling of Macademia. | 23:34 |
| nkinkade | I feel that it is Macadamia. | 23:34 |
| paulproteus | I believe you alone are correct on this issue. | 23:34 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: Help. What is up with this visual bell in Intrepid Ibex. | 23:35 |
| nkinkade | Since you've been using for a while I figured you might have a fast answer. | 23:35 |
| paulproteus | greg-g's been a user for a long time. | 23:35 |
| nkinkade | using _it_, that is. | 23:35 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, That's pretty awesome re: goatse. | 23:36 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: ummm, what visual bell? | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | It's horrifying. And xset doesn't seem to make it go away. | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, System->Preferences->Sounds has the config maybe? | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: For example, in this pidgin window if I hit the backspace key and there is nothing to erase, it flashes the screen AND beeps. paulproteus, thanks. Let me check. | 23:37 |
| greg-g | eek, that is nasty | 23:37 |
| greg-g | I don't have that | 23:37 |
| greg-g | I did an upgrade from Hardy though, sometimes fun new "features" like that don't appear unless it is a fresh install | 23:38 |
| nkinkade | Mine was an upgrade too. | 23:38 |
| greg-g | what other programs does it do that in? | 23:38 |
| nkinkade | And it wasn't doing this before, so I assume it's something related to the upgrade. | 23:38 |
| nkinkade | It seems to do it in every application, but it's most annoying in vim. | 23:38 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: I can't take credit for finding it, @hugh on identica posted it | 23:39 |
| nkinkade | Because I hit lots of keys in vim that I don't need to and so the screen flashes to the point of not being able to edit a document. | 23:39 |
| greg-g | I have no idea, nkinkade | 23:39 |
| * paulproteus thinks he has the answer and awaits nkinkade's feedback. | 23:39 | |
| nkinkade | I don't see that anything in there would fix this paulproteus. | 23:41 |
| paulproteus | There's a System bell tab, no? | 23:41 |
| paulproteus | And you can choose visual or loud or none? | 23:41 |
| nkinkade | I don't have such a tab. | 23:42 |
| nkinkade | I just have "Devices" and "Sounds" | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | I'm on Debian. | 23:42 |
| nkinkade | And in the "Sounds" tab everything is unchecked. | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | I admit. | 23:42 |
| nkinkade | (and it was before) | 23:42 |
| nkinkade | I'll figure it out eventually. | 23:42 |
| nkinkade | xset normally handles this, I thought. | 23:43 |
| nkinkade | Like "xset b off" or something to that effect. | 23:43 |
| paulproteus | Ya. | 23:43 |
| nkinkade | Hey, I just took my own advice and it half worked. | 23:43 |
| nkinkade | The beep is gone, but the visual bell is still there. Maybe xset will fix the other half, too. | 23:44 |
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