| nkinkade | Yet again I have to concur with Bovinity. | 00:00 |
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| nkinkade | jgay: I just added a few comments to your /Donor_Transaction_and_Contact_System page. | 01:01 |
| nkinkade | If you have any specific questions about CiviCRM and our experiences with it, please feel to contact me here or through email. | 01:02 |
| jgay | nkinkade: neat. You might want to poke mattl or johnsu01 in #fsf, too. I actually left the Free Software Foundation as an employee and will be putting a lot less time into such projects. So, Matt and John are going to be the more reliable people to talk with. | 01:03 |
| nkinkade | jgay: Sorry. I was responding that email that Mike passed my way. | 01:04 |
| nkinkade | I guess he was little late in getting back to you. :-) | 01:05 |
| jgay | nkinkade: no, I mean, it sitll applies, I'm still going to be working with everyone in the community on that project ... it's a wiki afterall. But, if you want to talk to the FSF, then matt and john would be the ones. Although, it is on the wiki for a reason ;-) | 01:06 |
| jgay | Meaning, that the purpose of the project is to help get more people from the community involved, because having lots of information flowing just into the FSF leaves an information overflow problem at the FSF ... since there are so few employees and so many projects and campaigns, etc. | 01:07 |
| nkinkade | jgay: Cool. Thanks. I suppose someone can contact me directly if there are questions. I just wanted to open the door to someone chatting with me about our experiences with CiviCRM. | 01:08 |
| jgay | nkinkade: I think it's great. You might want to suggest that people write questions on the discussion page adn then email you, or start a new page that discusses CiviCRM in depth, and then follow changes on that page. Or something along those lines. | 01:09 |
| jgay | Defaulting to online and then when it matters, moving the discussion offline. like IRC :-) | 01:09 |
| nkinkade | jgay: Will do. I'll add a note on the wiki page to that effect. | 01:10 |
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| paulproteus | Morning, all. | 17:44 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Hello. | 17:44 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Not relevant to this channel ... but I got that very early beta of Android running on my Freerunner. | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | Nice! | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | How do you like it? | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | GSM? | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | No suspend I hear. | 17:45 |
| nkinkade | I suspect it won't be long before an actually functional version is available. | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | What did I originally say, two weeks? (-: | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | Two days? | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | It seems to register fine, but after about a few minutes the screen goes blank and I have to remove the batter to recover. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | I hear that's just it blanking. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | Have you tried pressing AUX? | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, I have tried pressing every button and for varying durations and in varying combinations. No luck. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | All right then. (-: | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | Oh, maybe it goes to sleep. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | But doesn't wake up. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | I think that's likely actually. | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: That's what I suspect, too. | 17:47 |
| paulproteus | There's discussion on the wailing list about how to disable sleep. | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | But I poked around the menu system and it looks pretty nice. | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | I can't believe the fascists passed Prop. 8, though. | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | Have you had a chance to try Nathan's? | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | Are you serious? | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | I've played with a few other G1s, though. | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | Yes re: Prop 8. | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gaymarriage6-2008nov06,0,2331815.story notes that the margin is slimming over time. | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | That's incredible, even quite unbelievable. | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | After all, "Eight years ago, Californians voted 61% to define marriage as being only between a man and a woman." | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | And sad as well. | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | Yeah. | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | Jeffrey Malone (who was one of the active SF-LUG OpenMoko users) also has a G1. | 17:50 |
| paulproteus | As do a few other people I know. And it's been r00ted, too. | 17:50 |
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| paulproteus | But I digress. | 17:51 |
| nkinkade | You say Jeffrey was (past tense) a SF-LUG OpenMoko user. Did he stop being active? | 17:52 |
| paulproteus | I mean that in the sense that you interacted with him in the past. | 17:53 |
| paulproteus | He also has not done anything with his FR lately, but he may again, so the statement wasn't intended to refer to a permanent transition that may not be real. | 17:54 |
| nkinkade | My present view on Android is that it isn't subversive to a concerted effort that had been going on, though I'm one of the developers on either side. From my experiences with the Freerunner it is clear to me that the situation was wanting a lot of money and manpower that didn't exist, and so if if Android is free, then great. | 17:56 |
| nkinkade | And may it be ported to the Freerunner sooner than later. | 17:56 |
| paulproteus | Cthuugle. | 17:56 |
| paulproteus | Mozootle. | 17:56 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, I'm going to resist the urge to punch everything in sight, and instead get dressed. | 17:57 |
| nkinkade | (sorry, I'm NOT one of the developers) | 17:57 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay. | 17:57 |
| paulproteus | (I was kind of surprised to hear that you were!) | 17:57 |
| nkinkade | But why would you punch everything in sight. | 17:57 |
| nkinkade | ? | 17:57 |
| paulproteus | Prop. 8. | 17:57 |
| nkinkade | Oh. I thought you were just very angry about Android. | 17:57 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 17:57 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: disgusting prop 8 result | 18:04 |
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| mecredis | Bovinity: any thoughts on the usb? | 19:36 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: bright indeed. time is short, i'm fine with it, lets ju?t go with it | 19:37 |
| mecredis | yeah | 19:37 |
| mecredis | done. | 19:38 |
| * paulproteus wonders what that's about. | 19:40 | |
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| mecredis | USB drive promotion | 19:56 |
| mecredis | you'll see soon enough | 19:57 |
| paulproteus | Ah-hah. | 19:57 |
| Bovinity | in fresh shiny colour | 19:57 |
| paulproteus | Awesome! | 19:57 |
| Bovinity | some minor retina burning may occur | 19:58 |
| paulproteus | I wasn't using my visual cortex anyway. | 20:02 |
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| paulproteus | It's *amazing* how slow svn checkout is. | 20:19 |
| paulproteus | Or "svn update" on a full checkout of the CC svn repository. | 20:19 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Are you still doing that svn up? | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | I suspect that it's chewing up and about to spit out a7. | 20:50 |
| paulproteus | 20:50:36 up 16 days, 6:31, 3 users, load average: 158.92, 157.15, 130.08 | 20:50 |
| paulproteus | Oh, oops. | 20:50 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I ^Z'd both of the svn updates. | 20:51 |
| paulproteus | I hear svn 1.5 has some server-side optimizations. | 20:52 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Thanks. Let's see if that does it. svnserve was pegged at the top of top. | 20:52 |
| paulproteus | I'm sure it will. | 20:52 |
| paulproteus | Down to: | 20:52 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@a7:~$ uptime | 20:52 |
| paulproteus | 20:52:31 up 16 days, 6:33, 3 users, load average: 51.12, 123.43, 121.40 | 20:52 |
| Bovinity | oh, that would explain why git push/fetch was taking so long | 20:53 |
| paulproteus | Hilarious. | 20:53 |
| nkinkade | A regular riot. | 20:54 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Do you know of any 3rd party mail list archiving utilities along the lines of http://www.nabble.com? | 22:11 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, You mean for nicely displaying mailing list archives? | 22:12 |
| paulproteus | AKA pipermail but actually nice-looking? | 22:12 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Exactly. | 22:12 |
| paulproteus | But self-hostable? | 22:12 |
| nkinkade | Preferably not. | 22:12 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay. | 22:13 |
| nkinkade | The CC Jordan mail list archives are all fubar with all the text directionality issues. | 22:13 |
| paulproteus | Sad that you don't want to host it yourself. | 22:13 |
| paulproteus | There's always GMANE. | 22:13 |
| nkinkade | ibiblio says that there's not much they can do, and I believe it, so I'm looking for some other easy way to do this. I was going to try nabble.com | 22:13 |
| nkinkade | We could possibly host it ourselves. What do you know about? | 22:14 |
| paulproteus | http://lurker.sourceforge.net/ is nice. | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | I'd rather use a third party, really. | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | We could install our own software, but I hate to do it just to support 1 or 2 very low volume mail lists. | 22:16 |
| paulproteus | Oh, I forgot we don't actually host the mailing lists ourselves. | 22:17 |
| paulproteus | Have you checked out GMANE yet? | 22:17 |
| nkinkade | I was there a little while ago, but it was talking about news to archives. | 22:19 |
| nkinkade | And something tells me that the GMANE interface was horrible when I've seen it in the past. | 22:19 |
| nkinkade | But I guess it can't get too much worse than pipermail. | 22:19 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Yeah, you pipe mailing lists through GMANE, and now people can subscribe and chat via that web interface (or NNTP if they'd really rather). | 22:20 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I'll try that. Nabble would work too, but you I wasn't sure about the Terms of Use. | 22:21 |
| paulproteus | FWIW I really like Lurker. | 22:40 |
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