| nkinkade | netstat -st gives interesting output. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| paulproteus | UdpLite: | 00:00 |
| paulproteus | error parsing /proc/net/snmp: Success | 00:00 |
| paulproteus | Hooray for errno = 0. | 00:00 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, tty in a bit. | 00:00 |
| nkinkade | But that's not nearly as fun as: | 00:02 |
| nkinkade | netstat -n | grep tcp | grep -v '127\.0' | awk '{print $5}' | cut -d: -f 1 | sort | uniq | wc -l | 00:02 |
| paulproteus | Hah! | 00:02 |
| nkinkade | However, the latter gives the number of *unique* client connections. | 00:02 |
| paulproteus | a8 says 3041; rose says 2308 | 00:02 |
| nkinkade | a5 says 3559 | 00:03 |
| paulproteus | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/JsWidget is doing bad things for me. | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | from within function "". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (localhost)". | 00:04 |
| nkinkade | Interestingly "netstat -st" says: 2327 connections established | 00:04 |
| nkinkade | function ""? | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | Yeah - load the page yourself and you'll see. | 00:04 |
| nkinkade | The old empty string function, eh? | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | Wait, never mind. | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | It's loading now. | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | But yeah, the old function of empty name. | 00:05 |
| nkinkade | Did you mean that wiki.CC.org was giving problems? | 00:05 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 00:05 |
| paulproteus | But it now works. | 00:05 |
| nkinkade | git-svn is busy doing something. | 00:06 |
| nkinkade | That could be part of it. | 00:06 |
| nkinkade | The machines are super sensitive to anything using resources, which somewhat gives me the feeling that they are on the edge at all times. | 00:06 |
| * paulproteus nods | 00:07 | |
| nkinkade | But it's only a5 and a7 that really give problems, for the most part, and not surprisingly they are generally the busiest. | 00:08 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Are you opposed to more RAM? Do you feel that it wouldn't help at all really? | 00:08 |
| nkinkade | On a separate topic, I've been playing around with Om2008.{8,9} and I feel that at the moment it is more viable than Debian on the Freerunner. | 00:09 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, More RAM may well help. | 00:25 |
| paulproteus | I don't remember opposing it. | 00:25 |
| paulproteus | I'm independently suggesting we may want to move some of these bulk jobs off the servers. | 00:26 |
| paulproteus | Also I'm using boring old Qtopia to great success on my FR. | 00:26 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: So no 2008.8 stuff, just plain-old Qtopia? | 00:28 |
| paulproteus | Ya. | 00:29 |
| nkinkade | I haven't even tried it. Maybe I'd like it. | 00:29 |
| nkinkade | I'm sort of at the point where I'd just like to use the thing. | 00:29 |
| paulproteus | That's where I ended up. | 00:30 |
| nkinkade | I like that Debian is on the microSD and that I can install anything I want on the regular storage. | 00:30 |
| nkinkade | Does Qtopia suspend? | 00:30 |
| paulproteus | Marvelously. | 00:30 |
| paulproteus | Let me fix mail sending on my laptop so you can enjoy the email I wrote about this | 00:30 |
| nkinkade | I'm going to install it right now, though I'll miss Navit. | 00:30 |
| nkinkade | Navit is working reasonably well on both Om2008.8 and Debian. | 00:31 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: It seems that Nagios thinks herder is down because if you add a slash to the end of the URL it fails. | 00:39 |
| paulproteus | Frickin' awesome. | 00:39 |
| nkinkade | Did you just take herder down? | 00:41 |
| paulproteus | Not intentionally. | 00:41 |
| paulproteus | I have done nothing to Herder intentionally in the past 1h or so. | 00:41 |
| paulproteus | Not even issued a GET to it. | 00:41 |
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| nkinkade | Then I guess it crashed, or something. | 00:42 |
| paulproteus | That's a shame. | 00:42 |
| paulproteus | If it were in a screen I could see something about it. | 00:42 |
| nkinkade | Well, I just started it again, and I won't worry about it again until tomorrow. | 00:45 |
| nkinkade | I'm presently flashing the rootfs of the Neo to Qtop 4.3.3 | 00:45 |
| nkinkade | I can play with Debian whenever I want, and in the meantime I can have a phone that actually works. | 00:45 |
| nkinkade | And I was also a bit disappointed that FSO milestone 3 doesn't seem to have fix the show-stopping bugs in zhone! | 00:46 |
| nkinkade | So it goes, to coin a phrase. | 00:46 |
| paulproteus | (rehi) | 00:51 |
| paulproteus | You may want to read your mail; I just flushed my queue. | 00:52 |
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| cje | Anyone here want to help me with an Xchat question? #xchat is dead silent. | 05:37 |
| paulproteus | cje, Sure. | 05:39 |
| paulproteus | Since I happen to use X-Chat. | 05:39 |
| paulproteus | But why did you come here for that? | 05:39 |
| cje | heh, I thought I could catch Asheesh, who is familiar with my stupidity and puts up with it. | 05:40 |
| mattl | this *isn't* the xchat support channel? | 05:40 |
| cje | heh | 05:40 |
| mattl | asheesh isn't here right now. | 05:40 |
| paulproteus | LOL! | 05:40 |
| paulproteus | I'm not sure I recognize you by nick, cje. | 05:40 |
| mattl | you should! it's my dad. | 05:40 |
| cje | paulproteus, I am Christian Einfeldt | 05:41 |
| paulproteus | Ah-hah, hey there. (-: | 05:41 |
| paulproteus | cje, Let's move to #xchat. | 05:41 |
| cje | paulproteus, k, thx, paulproteus but I actually just solved the problem! | 05:41 |
| paulproteus | Oh, awesome. | 05:41 |
| cje | cool. | 05:41 |
| mattl | cje: if you can, consider irssi. | 05:41 |
| paulproteus | "i r sissy" | 05:42 |
| cje | LOL | 05:42 |
| mattl | u r? | 05:42 |
| cje | While I'm here, I might as well tell you all about the Digital Tipping Point video project, if you want to hear about it. | 05:42 |
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| wwwiki | hey does anyone know if CC-BY-SA is compatible with GNU-FDL? | 11:45 |
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| m3cr3d1s | wwwiki: No, its not. The Free Software Foundation is supposedly working on a new version which will be. | 14:47 |
| wwwiki | m3cr3d1s: thanks, do you know if it is compatible both directions, i.e. CC-BY-SA use in GNU-FDL or vice versa? if you know a good place to find out about the current status, that would be great :) | 14:50 |
| wwwiki | *incompatible | 14:50 |
| m3cr3d1s | I believe it is bi-directional | 14:50 |
| m3cr3d1s | let me get the pertinent link | 14:50 |
| m3cr3d1s | err, bi-directionally incompatible | 14:51 |
| wwwiki | it looks like wikipedia accepts CC-BY-SA images though, and it uses the GFDL | 15:06 |
| m3cr3d1s | right | 15:13 |
| m3cr3d1s | a lot of people get around this by dual licensing | 15:13 |
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| wwwiki | if an image is licensed CC-BY-SA, can it be included in Wikipedia? | 15:29 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 15:29 |
| wwwiki | okay good :) | 15:33 |
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| wwwiki | thought i had heard that CC-BY-SA and GNU-FDL were not compatible | 15:43 |
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| paulproteus | They're not compatible. | 15:45 |
| paulproteus | But for images they don't need to be compatible. | 15:45 |
| paulproteus | I'm not being as precise as I could be. | 15:46 |
| paulproteus | I mean, you can submit CC by-sa images to Wikipedia. | 15:46 |
| paulproteus | For more you can read their info or ask me later. (-: | 15:46 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Is there anything special I might need to know about deleting a project page in Teamspace? I would do it, but I wondered if that might leave orphan pages or references. | 16:00 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sure, it might... just like any other page | 16:00 |
| nathany | actually it almost certainly will if it has tasks associated iwth it | 16:01 |
| nathany | why delete? | 16:01 |
| nkinkade | It's a test project for Science Commons called Testing_testing. | 16:01 |
| nkinkade | Kaitlin just wanted it gone. | 16:01 |
| nathany | sure, delete | 16:02 |
| nathany | it won't be any more fucked up than the SMW mucking she did | 16:02 |
| nkinkade | I'll make sure that any test task pages are gone too. | 16:02 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 16:02 |
| nathany | great | 16:02 |
| nkinkade | Cool. Thanks. | 16:02 |
| nathany | btw, do you know if you have use regexes from bash? | 16:02 |
| nathany | i think i fixed the rotation problem with the scraper logs but want to consolidate the existing hourly ones in /var/log/metadata_scraper | 16:03 |
| nathany | if you can use regexes, that is | 16:03 |
| nathany | hrm, doesn't look like it... | 16:04 |
| nathany | nm | 16:04 |
| nathany | nkinkade: btw, is there something wedged with herder? i keep getting nagios messages | 16:05 |
| nathany | not critical since we're not in production yet, just curious | 16:05 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm trying to get the herder startup handled in rc.local, and it doesn't seem to like that. | 16:06 |
| nkinkade | Before paulproteus would launch a screen session and then leave it in the foreground, but I don't see that as a tenable solution longterm. | 16:07 |
| nathany | right, obviously | 16:07 |
| nathany | ok, i'll ignore for now | 16:07 |
| paulproteus | I'm kind of unhappy about all these Nagios messages. | 16:08 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Good thing you aren't in the regular admins group of Nagios. | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | nathany, is http://blog.grossmeier.net/2008/09/21/memeing-along/ the kind of behavior we expect from our employees, in public?! | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Zing. | 16:08 |
| nkinkade | Because then you'd also be getting SMS messsages at all hours of the night. Granted, not a ton of them, but they do happen, and those definitely warrants lots of sadness. | 16:09 |
| paulproteus | Good thing I only said "kind of unhappy." | 16:09 |
| nathany | paulproteus: it's exactly the sort of behavior we expect from greg-g | 16:10 |
| nathany | (and all employees :) ) | 16:10 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Excellent. (-: | 16:10 |
| greg-g | I thought you all would like it! | 16:11 |
| wwwiki | nathany: what command are you trying to use regex with? can "grep" be used? | 16:11 |
| nathany | wwwiki: i wanted to do it with a bash for loop... i'm justing writing a quicky python script instead | 16:11 |
| nathany | just as fast (or faster) for me | 16:11 |
| wwwiki | sure, whatever works :) | 16:12 |
| wwwiki | i think you can do it in bash too | 16:12 |
| nathany | hrm... there must be some special sauce that tells it you're using a regex... otherwise it complains about grouping characters | 16:13 |
| wwwiki | for python regex? | 16:13 |
| nkinkade | nathany: You could always use Perl. | 16:13 |
| * nkinkade runs and hides | 16:13 | |
| nathany | wwwiki: when i tried it in bash | 16:13 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i could and if it were more efficient [for me] i might :) | 16:13 |
| nkinkade | Interesting: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/bashver3.html#REGEXMATCHREF | 16:14 |
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| nkinkade | I didn't know bash had a =~ similar to Perl. | 16:15 |
| nathany | ah, the ~ | 16:15 |
| wwwiki | nathany: what command are you using it with? the way i know how is with piping, such as "ps aux | grep firefox" where ps aux is the main command and firefox is the regex | 16:15 |
| paulproteus | wwwiki, FWIW there's pgrep for that. | 16:16 |
| nathany | wwwiki: it doens't matter, i'm moving on; not a pipe problem, trying to do a for loop in a bash script | 16:16 |
| nathany | almost done with it in python | 16:16 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: Shameful that Jameson shot was <tsk> <tsk> ... in the sense that I wasn't there to have one too. | 16:17 |
| wwwiki | paulproteus: sure, just giving an example of grep | 16:17 |
| wwwiki | nathany: the best language to use is the one you are most familiar with :D | 16:17 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: we'll remedy that some day | 16:18 |
| wwwiki | nkinkade: is that Teamspace for Science Commons publicly accessible? haven't seen it mentioned anywhere | 16:18 |
| nkinkade | Definitely. And the best thing is that we can always buy more Jameson's should that particular bottle run out. | 16:19 |
| nkinkade | wwwiki: No, it's a private wiki. | 16:19 |
| nkinkade | By the way, wwwiki, do I know you? | 16:19 |
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| nkinkade | Or it's an internal wiki, I should say, that isn't publicly accessible. | 16:20 |
| wwwiki | nkinkade: ahh, just found the page about it. just started messing about in SMW lately, and it sounded interesting. | 16:21 |
| wwwiki | nkinkade: hmm don't think so, but im here and some other channels from time to time. im interested in CC and open licenses, particularly related to open science and publishing =) | 16:22 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i'm merging those logs on a5 now | 16:23 |
| nathany | i'll clear the old ones from /var/log/metadata_scraper | 16:24 |
| nathany | and send you an email with the ones we want to store | 16:24 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Thanks. As soon as that happens I'll start having them pushed up to S3. | 16:26 |
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| * paulproteus waves gently | 17:10 | |
| nkinkade | Is it possible to wave gently? | 17:15 |
| Bovinity | the queen waves gently | 17:21 |
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| greg-g | Bovinity: you would say that. | 17:26 |
| nathany | paulproteus: i thought you updated herder to pylons 0.97 | 17:26 |
| nathany | setup.py still claims to be using 0.9.6; is it a non-merged branch? | 17:27 |
| nathany | paulproteus: (possibly nevermind... i was on a branch myself, double checking) | 17:27 |
| * paulproteus double checks also | 17:27 | |
| Bovinity | greg-g: yes, yes i would | 17:27 |
| nathany | paulproteus: nope, still looks like 0.96 on master | 17:28 |
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| paulproteus | Seems to say >=0.9.6 for me, nathany. | 17:31 |
| paulproteus | Maybe it *should* say >0.9.6, though. | 17:31 |
| nathany | paulproteus: that's what it says to me | 17:31 |
| nathany | that doesn't say you're using 0.9.7 | 17:31 |
| nathany | to = for | 17:31 |
| nathany | i just was wondering how you were specifying 0.9.7 since pypi doesn't seem to know about it | 17:32 |
| paulproteus | Er, PyPi seems to give me 0.9.7rc1 last I buildouted. | 17:32 |
| paulproteus | Or, well, something gives me 0.9.7rc1. | 17:32 |
| paulproteus | I don't know what, admittedly. | 17:32 |
| nathany | paulproteus: ok, thanks | 17:32 |
| paulproteus | Sorry to be relatively useless. | 17:33 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: herder is back running in a screen session as your user. | 18:19 |
| nkinkade | But it still has automated startup with something like 'screen -d -m <start herder>' | 18:19 |
| nkinkade | Hopefully herder will be happier this way, but I assume you've got plans to make it into a normal type of daemon process that won't be requiring screen. | 18:20 |
| * paulproteus nods | 18:21 | |
| paulproteus | Thanks a bundle. | 18:21 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Since when is killall not available in the default Debian install? | 19:15 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, iirc it wasn't in my trivia teensy vservers. | 19:15 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I didn't do a default install on the backup machine. | 19:16 |
| nkinkade | So, installing psmisc gave it to me, but not having killall is about as shocking as finding that less isn't installed. | 19:16 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Any idea why the map on learn.CC.org is so brutally slow in loading? | 19:55 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, No. It might be instructive to run Y! Slow! against it. | 19:55 |
| nkinkade | Y! Slow! says it took 33 second to load the main page. | 19:56 |
| nkinkade | I had temporarily removed the iframe and it took 2 seconds max. | 19:56 |
| paulproteus | Ouch. | 19:57 |
| paulproteus | Y! Slow! will say which parts are slow, too, which is what I'm most interested in. | 19:57 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: I just looked at the Net section of Firebug and there were 198 requests to load the main page. | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | That seems unacceptable to me. | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | 198 requests for 2MB of data. | 19:59 |
| nkinkade | There is hardly any traffic on a6, but learn keeps going down and it *seems* to be related to the map. | 19:59 |
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| Bovinity | what on earth is requring 198 hits? | 20:05 |
| paulproteus | The AJAX callbacks for the map (presumably to tilecache.cc) at the ccLearn site, it seems. | 20:05 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Apparently a tremendous amount of calls for JS files and PNGs. | 20:05 |
| Bovinity | oh damn | 20:05 |
| Bovinity | tons of probably useless openlayers files | 20:06 |
| nkinkade | In fact. YSlow seems to have stalled. | 20:06 |
| Bovinity | firebug says 185 / 2MB | 20:06 |
| nkinkade | It's been "Getting component information" for about 5 minutes now. | 20:06 |
| Bovinity | 50K from cache! yay! | 20:06 |
| Bovinity | yeah, almost all those openlayers js files are unnecessary for our purposes | 20:07 |
| nkinkade | I'm just wondering what may have changed. It's always been a little slow, but it seems to have got really bad in the past 24 hours. | 20:08 |
| Bovinity | every zoom of the map takes ~40 requests | 20:09 |
| paulproteus | FWIW I could try upgrading our version of OL. | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Bovinity: Do either one of you know how to stop it from making so many requests, assuming that the files aren't necessary? | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: But is there any explanations of why it has suddenly got so bad? | 20:10 |
| paulproteus | I don't think so; it's self-hosted! | 20:10 |
| paulproteus | We have only ourselves to blame. (-: | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | On second though, it may have been this bad all along and now it's showing up due to a very slight increase in traffic from the OE conference in Utah. | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | I mean there are only about 10-20 connections at any given moment, but that might translate into 4000 requests. | 20:11 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: If we can't figure out a way to lighten the load then I think we should recommend to Ahrash and Nathan that we remove the map. | 20:12 |
| paulproteus | Well, even if we keep it heavy on the load on the servers, if they can handle it we should keep it. (-; | 20:13 |
| nkinkade | It's a large, unnecessary load under the best of circumstances. | 20:13 |
| Bovinity | i think we could replicate the map in a much lighter fashion | 20:13 |
| paulproteus | Earlier we were caching a lot of it. | 20:13 |
| Bovinity | OpenLayers is really heavy for what the map needs to do | 20:13 |
| paulproteus | I thought. | 20:13 |
| nkinkade | And all that only to display 9 pushpins. | 20:13 |
| Bovinity | right | 20:13 |
| * paulproteus shrugs | 20:13 | |
| Bovinity | if we plotted the pins onto a straight forward PNG map.. problem pretty much solved | 20:14 |
| Bovinity | no scrolling or zooming | 20:14 |
| nkinkade | If it were something more mission critical, then I'd say we'll pay the price, but as it is it just seems like eye-candy. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | Buh, my request for / to learn-dot is pretty slow already. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | I guess you'll say these are related. (-; | 20:14 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I removed the iframe a minute ago and the page loaded in a second or two. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | "A second or two" is pretty slow, but okay. | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | So is 30s, after all! | 20:15 |
| nkinkade | Sure, but we're talking in relative terms here. :-) | 20:15 |
| nkinkade | I'd do something about this myself, but I have approx. no knowledge OpenLayers and how that map works. | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@sf:~ $ wget -O/dev/null learn.creativecommons.org | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | --2008-09-24 13:15:53-- http://learn.creativecommons.org/ | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | Resolving learn.creativecommons.org... 66.135.32.165 | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | Connecting to learn.creativecommons.org|66.135.32.165|:80... connected. | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... | 20:16 |
| Bovinity | (or we use google maps api...) | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | That was 10-15s ago. | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | Why is / not cached, anyway? | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | I think that if we fix the root cause, inadequately-aggressive caching, we'll do okay. | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | And even if we ditch OL, we still have better caching. | 20:16 |
| paulproteus | (Naturally I would like to keep using it, if feasible.) | 20:17 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: caching would be good, but it still doesn't lay a finger to the near 200 requests to fetch the front page. | 20:17 |
| paulproteus | Still waiting on that GET. | 20:17 |
| paulproteus | Er, connection refused. | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | After a 2.5 minute timeout. | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | Okay, now I got / in about 7 seconds. | 20:19 |
| nkinkade | I hope we aren't planning another such map for CC.org during the upcoming months. | 20:19 |
| Bovinity | no | 20:19 |
| paulproteus | At least not one that sucks *this* much. (-: | 20:19 |
| nkinkade | Phwew! <wipes brow> | 20:19 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 20:19 |
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| nathany | Bovinity: are we doing a map for the campaign this year? | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I just asked that. | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | Apparently not. | 20:24 |
| nathany | :) | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | Thing is, we did last year on support-dot. | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | And it turned out okay. | 20:24 |
| nathany | right... i mean, not our box so who knows how we hammered it | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity corrects that: "It didn't turn out okay, by any means." | 20:25 |
| nathany | i am a little... queasy... that this is just causing problems now | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | I'm wondering if this has been an issue on ccLearn for a while, but we are just now seeing it from a small increase in traffic from the Utah conference? | 20:25 |
| nathany | i suppose that's a possibility | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | I'm happy to look into optimizations or other setups for the map stuff. | 20:25 |
| nathany | ok, we're obviously doing something wrong | 20:26 |
| nkinkade | The map is pretty cool, but in reality it's a large load only for the sake of displaying 9 pushpins. | 20:26 |
| nathany | http://openlayers.org/ makes 3 requests | 20:26 |
| nkinkade | Surely we can optimize this then. | 20:26 |
| nathany | obviously a different map, but seems... suspect | 20:26 |
| nkinkade | I guess I can do some reading on it. I suppose I should learn about this sooner or later. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, crschmidt on #openlayers is nice - feel free to tell him I sent you. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | Just quizzing him about it might be a good start. The first thing he'll probably say is "Upgrade," though. | 20:27 |
| nathany | i just looked, we're already at 2.6 | 20:28 |
| paulproteus | Ne'er mind. | 20:28 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to get some lunch under the idea that this isn't an emergency, and then I will go back to Herder stuff. Someone correct me if that's wrong. (-: | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | nathany: How do you feel about pulling the map for now? | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | Mostly I say that so that if Ahrash is demoing the site it will work properly. | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | I want to make sure that the site is usable, especially during this conference when a number of people are likely to be checking it out. | 20:30 |
| paulproteus | But it loads fast for me now! | 20:30 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, okay, I have the whole thing cached. (-: | 20:31 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, 20-30s. | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: What do you consider fast? | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | It just loaded for me in 10s. | 20:31 |
| paulproteus | Ne'er mind; I disabled caching and it took somewhere between 10 and 30s. | 20:31 |
| paulproteus | I think with my cache it was 1-2. Whatever, I retract my remark about fast. | 20:31 |
| nathany | if we pull it, we need to still make it available and visible | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | I've been noticing Varnish eating up a lot of memory too. | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | Restarting Varnish seems to help. | 20:32 |
| paulproteus | Sad. | 20:32 |
| nathany | nkinkade: is that just because you're clearing everything it had cached? | 20:32 |
| nathany | so i don't know if we should make a static image to replace it, and link that to a page with the actual map on it? | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm not really sure, but I can't explain why Varnish would need 1.5G of memory only to handle 10 simultaneous connections. | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: How would we go about doing that? | 20:33 |
| nathany | (with screenshot software ;) ) | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | I mean, I could, for the moment, do something as silly as making a screenshot to generate a static image. | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | Right. | 20:33 |
| nathany | anyway, apparently lots of people like the idea of the map | 20:33 |
| paulproteus | On click of the image, it DHTML's itself out and replaces itself with the iframe? | 20:33 |
| nathany | paulproteus: christ, no | 20:34 |
| nathany | just link to /eventmap or something that's a wordpress page with the iframe in it | 20:34 |
| nathany | let's not kill ourselves hacking together an interim solution | 20:34 |
| nathany | (because something still seems fishy about this) | 20:34 |
| paulproteus | Agreed. | 20:34 |
| nathany | why don't you see if that guy is in openlayers and has any suggestions first | 20:34 |
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| nathany | nkinkade or paulproteus ^^ | 20:35 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm on the #openlayers channel now. | 20:35 |
| nathany | cool | 20:35 |
| Bovinity | if we can get it to just load the pertinant JS, it'll be tons better. | 20:35 |
| Bovinity | better, but not perfect i'm sure | 20:35 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I see you just entered as well, are you going to ask. | 20:35 |
| nathany | nope, please do | 20:35 |
| nathany | just went there to observe | 20:35 |
| nkinkade | okay. | 20:35 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 20:36 |
| nathany | nkinkade: looks like that did it | 20:46 |
| nathany | ? | 20:46 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Were you reading at #openlayers? | 20:47 |
| nathany | i just skimmed it -- got pulled away into a conversation here | 20:47 |
| nkinkade | It does seem his fix worked ... now I just need to download a new, non-development version and install serve it locally on a6, and that should do it. | 20:47 |
| nathany | sweet | 20:48 |
| nathany | thanks for bringing that to my attention | 20:48 |
| nathany | (to all of our attentions, I guess) | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany: You here? | 21:35 |
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| paulproteus | I can *almost* get the CC wifi from Zebulon. | 22:29 |
| Bovinity | haha | 22:29 |
| Bovinity | that would be awesome | 22:29 |
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| Bovinity | maybe if we put a repeater up by the window..... | 22:32 |
| Bovinity | or a bigger antenna | 22:32 |
| cQ | what this channel discussing for? | 22:32 |
| Bovinity | creative commons | 22:32 |
| cQ | what is it?need dictionary | 22:32 |
| cQ | can anywhone help me in enabling sound in fedora 9? | 22:33 |
| paulproteus | cQ, You should join #fedora for that. | 22:33 |
| cQ | i am but no one reply.how to make them reply me?i am new | 22:34 |
| cQ | "test | 22:34 |
| paulproteus | cQ, Please type: | 22:34 |
| paulproteus | /join #fedora | 22:34 |
| paulproteus | That will have you join the Fedora chat room. | 22:34 |
| cQ | i in that room too for now | 22:35 |
| paulproteus | Good - you should ask them about your sound problems. | 22:35 |
| cQ | u cant help me? | 22:35 |
| paulproteus | No, I don't use Fedora. | 22:35 |
| cQ | u use? | 22:35 |
| paulproteus | Ubuntu and Debian | 22:36 |
| cQ | hardy heron? | 22:36 |
| paulproteus | Yup. | 22:36 |
| paulproteus | How did you end up on this channel, by the way? | 22:36 |
| cQ | what??im poor in english | 22:37 |
| cQ | hi | 22:55 |
| paulproteus | Hi | 22:55 |
| cQ | what this channel discuss for? | 22:56 |
| paulproteus | Creative Commons - creativecommons.or | 22:56 |
| paulproteus | Creative Commons - creativecommons.org | 22:56 |
| cQ | what is that? | 22:56 |
| cQ | all idle | 22:59 |
| cQ | ? | 22:59 |
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| paulproteus | It's like open source or Free Software, but for media like photos, video, music, or text. | 22:59 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: i fixed that dumb ["f","o","o"," ","b","a","r"] issue with the campaign widget page | 23:35 |
| paulproteus | g o o d | 23:35 |
| paulproteus | FWIW, in my Campaign Widget 2.0, that issue doesn't exist. | 23:35 |
| Bovinity | it was an issue with the JSON stuff on the drupal page | 23:35 |
| paulproteus | Oh, huh, okay. | 23:35 |
| Bovinity | nothing to do with the widget itself | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | I see! | 23:36 |
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