Thursday, 2008-09-25

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nathanygreg-g: SYN16:27
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paulproteusMmm, ice cream for breakfast.18:21
nkinkadeYou're a glutton.18:25
nkinkadeA decadent one at that.18:25
nkinkade:)18:25
paulproteusHey, I'm not the one destroying the Internet by spreading my personal name out across the hierarchy of DNS!18:30
paulproteus(I'm lying; whois ashee.sh and paulprote.us....)18:32
paulproteusBut at least I currently do nothing with those domains! (-;18:32
nkinkadeMaybe you could save the Internet by buying up every possible domain name and then just sitting on them.18:34
nkinkadeBut that would take hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars to accomplish. :-)18:35
Bovinitybut then you could sell a few to some people, perhaps at an increased rate, to make purchasing them more cost effective.18:35
Bovinityjust a thought18:35
nkinkadeBovinity: Did you see that mail to webmaster about the broken links at /presskit?18:36
Bovinityno18:36
Bovinityi'll look again18:36
Bovinityhm, that's inconsiderate18:37
nkinkadeI think I can probably fix.  Should I just download the svg and then scale it and save as PNG?18:37
paulproteusBovinity, You're right - I should sell them at a discount!18:37
nkinkadeBut what happened to the noble idea of saving the Internet.  Capitalism rears it's ugly head once again!18:38
nkinkadeBovinity: ^^^18:38
paulproteusThe only way to save the Internet is by taking it over.18:38
Bovinitynkinkade: just export the svgs at 403x141 px18:39
Bovinity(300dpi)18:39
nkinkadeLet me see what Gimp can do with that.18:39
Bovinityinkscape can do it all on the command line18:39
nkinkadeBovinity: Let me try inkscape then ... I've never used it.18:40
nkinkadeThis can be my brief primer.18:40
Bovinityinkscape samplingplus.svg -o samplingplus.png.... there are some args for width/height, i forget what18:40
nkinkadeWhat's the fun in that?  Now I don't even have to read the man page.18:42
Bovinityjust read inkscape --help18:42
Bovinity;)18:42
nkinkade-w -h18:42
nkinkade-d for dpi18:42
Bovinityfigures.18:42
nkinkadeWhat lunatic made those parameters -d=dpi -h=height -w=width ... there's no sense that.18:43
nkinkadeNext thing you know -h will be help and -v will be verbose.  What is the world coming to.18:43
* paulproteus shakes his head in dismay.18:45
nkinkadeBut Bovinity, what's the 403x141 thing?  Aren't those supposed to be 88x31?18:45
Bovinitynkinkade: the "png" link on the presskit goes to the high res pngs of each button18:46
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nkinkadeAh.18:46
Bovinitythe 88x31 just denotes it's the large version, as opposed to the 80x15 ones18:46
nkinkadeThe inkscape command line tool worked like a charm.18:46
nkinkade88x31=larger and 88x15=smaller?  What is the world coming to?18:47
nkinkadeAnd what does 403x141 mean?18:47
Bovinityfuzzy 300dpi18:47
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Bovinityreally fuzzy, inkscape's understanding of inches is a bit lame.18:49
nkinkadeBovinity: Does this look right to you: http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/presskit/buttons/88x31/png/sampling-plus.png18:49
Bovinityyep18:49
Bovinitybrava18:49
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nkinkadeAnd this: http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/presskit/buttons/88x31/png/nc-sampling-plus.png18:49
Bovinityditto18:50
nkinkadeCool.  Thanks.  Now I know some tiny thing about inkscape, which will surely come in handy.18:50
nkinkadeCould ImageMagick have done that as well?18:50
Bovinityonly if it were compiled against librsvg18:50
Bovinityand even then, it's not that great.18:50
Bovinityyou can use the same technique to automate making the flags for /internationa18:51
nkinkadeNice.  In the past I had just grabbed the SVG flag from Wikipedia and the used Gimp to scale and export it.18:52
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paulproteusHowdy nathany.  I love me some Unicode.19:24
nathanypaulproteus: oh really?19:25
paulproteusI'm fixing up the emailing to comply with MIME etc. since now we send out translated strings.19:25
nathanyawesome19:25
paulproteusWhich could be all sorts of crazy non-ASCII nonsense.19:25
nathanyright19:25
nathanyproblems? or just loving it?19:25
paulproteusNo problems, just slowly groping my way around the APIs.19:26
paulproteusBTW, doctest.ELLIPSIS makes the mock thing much more sensible.19:26
paulproteusLet me know if I should unpack the above.19:26
nathany"the above" ?= "doctest.ELLIPSIS"?19:27
nathanyi love doctest.ELLIPSIS :)19:27
paulproteusWell, "the mock thing"19:29
paulproteusNow I can "...' in matching emails that get sent out, which makes way more sense than retyping in a formatted email in a unit test.19:29
paulproteus(The mock thing that just prints functions and their arguments, as a way to avoid explicitly stating assertions about how the mocked functions got called.)19:30
nathanyrright19:30
nathanycool19:30
nkinkade1nathany: I'd like to buy that SSL certificate now.  Should I just buy it with my credit card and get reimbursed, or should I get your card number, or should I just let you buy it????19:36
paulproteusnathany, Do you use pychecker with your buildout stuff, btw?19:37
paulproteusI guess the thing to do is try to find an entry point definition for it.19:38
nathanypaulproteus: i haven't, no19:38
paulproteusFrom the errors my tests are catching, clearly I need to. (-:19:38
nathanypaulproteus: how does pychecker run? cmdline tool?19:39
paulproteusYa.19:40
paulproteusI'll show you how it runs in Herder in a sec, if you like. (-;19:40
nathanycool19:40
paulproteusHmm, it doesn't look too happy to be trapped in this buildout jail.19:49
paulproteusOh, well.19:50
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* paulproteus uses the system install of pylint instead20:02
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greg-ganyone know what nathany wanted me for?23:13
paulproteusNo-eyed dear.23:14
greg-goh well23:14
greg-gno email, must not be urgent.23:15
paulproteusOr the monsters got to him before he could email you.23:15
greg-gohz noez!23:18
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