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| paulproteus | Aww, sorry I missed David. | 00:24 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, I'm going to try innerHTML instead of document.write(). But honestly, that doesn't strike me as much more than a 10% improvement in quality. | 00:54 |
| paulproteus | We'll see if it works, anyway. | 00:54 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: it's better in that it's a more directed injection, than just vomiting html wherever the script is called from | 00:54 |
| paulproteus | Agreed. | 00:55 |
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| ftobia | currybot: list | 15:32 |
| currybot | (1) PUNJABI CHANNA PANEER (Garbanzo beans and cottage cheese cubes cooked together) | 15:32 |
| currybot | (2) AJWAINI BHAJI (Several vegetables sautéed in a sauce with flavored with oregano seeds.) | 15:32 |
| currybot | (3) SAUNFIA CHICKEN (Boneless chicken cubes cooked in curry flavored with fennel seeds) | 15:32 |
| currybot | (4) MEATBALLS MADIRA (Beef meatballs cooked in curry flavored with rum) | 15:32 |
| ftobia | nice. | 15:32 |
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| nathany | damn, jenn will be happy -- paneer | 15:52 |
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| paulproteus | Morning ankitg. | 16:45 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: Morning ... | 16:45 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: Just tested out running an AMI today ... works just fine ... now looking for the brifge between EC2 and S3 ... | 16:46 |
| paulproteus | Great! | 16:46 |
| ankitg | *s/ some weird wrong spelling / bridge | 16:46 |
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| paulproteus | ankitg, I think all the "bridge" is that you install an S3 client on your EC2 box, and it works normally but we're not charged for the data transfer. | 16:56 |
| paulproteus | I'm no Amazonian, though. | 16:57 |
| ankitg | sounds plausible ... though I'd like to be sure before hauling all that data over to a VM only to find it's going to cost and will all be gone at the end of the day ... | 16:58 |
| ankitg | I'll snoop around the internetz for an answer to that one ... | 16:59 |
| * ankitg assumes there must be something on this scenario ... digs into amazon's EC2 forums ... | 17:02 | |
| ankitg | paulproteus: okie, I found it ... you're right ... | 17:05 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 17:06 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Can I X forward your Windows, or maybe rdesktop in? | 17:11 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Sure. | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | I can setup VNC. | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | One second. | 17:12 |
| paulproteus | I'd prefer a non-Admin account and just using XP Pro's built-in remote desktop feature. | 17:12 |
| paulproteus | Don't tell anyone, but MS rdesktop is way more efficient than VNC. | 17:12 |
| paulproteus | So it's smoother. | 17:13 |
| Sirtas | paulproteus: maybe more efficient but less secure ... | 17:13 |
| paulproteus | VNC by itself is super-insecure. | 17:14 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Is there some package that offers rdesktop-server-like support? | 17:14 |
| nkinkade | I know I've got an rdesktop client. | 17:14 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, For Windows it's built-in, if you have XP Pro. | 17:15 |
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| paulproteus | If you don't have XP pro, basically forget any hope of using it, and use VNC. | 17:15 |
| tim_hwang | currybot list | 17:15 |
| currybot | (1) PUNJABI CHANNA PANEER (Garbanzo beans and cottage cheese cubes cooked together) | 17:15 |
| currybot | (2) AJWAINI BHAJI (Several vegetables sautéed in a sauce with flavored with oregano seeds.) | 17:15 |
| currybot | (3) SAUNFIA CHICKEN (Boneless chicken cubes cooked in curry flavored with fennel seeds) | 17:15 |
| currybot | (4) MEATBALLS MADIRA (Beef meatballs cooked in curry flavored with rum) | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | I wonder of the Saunfia chicken will taste like saunf. | 17:16 |
| paulproteus | (which is fennel seeds) | 17:16 |
| tim_hwang | paulproteus -- survey says likely | 17:16 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I think I've just got XP Home edition, but I can look right now. | 17:16 |
| * paulproteus nods | 17:16 | |
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| nkinkade | But wouldn't it also require some routing/NAT foo to make work? | 17:17 |
| nkinkade | It runs on a totally different network, and various modules handle the NAT. | 17:18 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Well, I could SSH tunnel through your laptop anyway. | 17:19 |
| nkinkade | My other concern is that VMWare Player will drag down the performance of my latop. | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | Why don't you just use the machine in accounting? | 17:20 |
| paulproteus | 'Cause the accounting dude is using it. | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: It's XP Pro. | 17:20 |
| paulproteus | Sweet. | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | I guess I can turn on Termianl Services | 17:21 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: It's already started by default apparently. | 17:21 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, How do I turn on Remote Desktop? | 17:28 |
| paulproteus | A. | 17:28 |
| paulproteus | Right-click My Computer, click Properties, and then click the Remote tab. Turn on Remote Desktop by selecting the check box Allow users to remotely connect to this computer. Designate users by clicking the Select Remote Users... button. | 17:28 |
| paulproteus | -- http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/rdfaq.mspx | 17:28 |
| nathany | nkinkade: cc.org is dead | 17:36 |
| nkinkade | What? | 17:36 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@sf:~ $ telnet creativecommons.org 80 | 17:38 |
| paulproteus | Trying 72.51.46.230... | 17:38 |
| paulproteus | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused | 17:38 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, MySQL tables may need repair. I have http://svn.asheesh.org/svn/public/code/mysql_tools/repair_all_tables.py?r1973 if you like. | 17:59 |
| paulproteus | (just skimming through syslog on a5) | 17:59 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Yeah, I saw that. I'm looking through all the logs, too. | 17:59 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: The problem with your script is that it doesn't lock the table first or otherwise make sure that writes aren't going to happen. | 18:00 |
| paulproteus | Is that necessary? | 18:01 |
| nkinkade | I had to repair tables the other day on one of the machines. | 18:01 |
| paulproteus | I would figure MySQL would handle that as part of transaction safety. | 18:01 |
| paulproteus | Writing that sentence out makes me understand the problem with that sentence. | 18:01 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Thinking about it, it may only be necessary to lock the table or shutdown mysqld when using myisamchk. I'm not 100% sure it's necessary when doing it via mysql client???? | 18:05 |
| nkinkade | I don't think MyISAM tables allow for row-level locking, so it just locks the whole table, right? | 18:06 |
| paulproteus | I would hope that MySQL would do the right thing. | 18:06 |
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| paulproteus | I think that's right. | 18:06 |
| paulproteus | You could check on #mysql maybe.; | 18:06 |
| nkinkade | Well, I know that with myisamchk the recommendations is to shutdown mysqld | 18:06 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, My guess is it just queues requests to the table. | 18:06 |
| nkinkade | I suspect that it's safe to run on a live system via a mysql client. | 18:07 |
| * paulproteus nods | 18:07 | |
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| Ekushey | question: when are the localized/country-specific cc site setup? after the licenses are ported? | 18:15 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Good times...? | 18:39 |
| nathany | paulproteus: yup, laughing at people :) | 18:39 |
| bse | paulproteus: editing a wiki is complicated | 18:39 |
| nathany | Ekushey: it's up to the specific affiliate | 18:40 |
| paulproteus | Even more complicated than reading a wiki! | 18:40 |
| nathany | Ekushey: some host their own sites, some have us host a WP-MU instance for them | 18:40 |
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| paulproteus | BTW, FireBug Lite in IE is a godsend. | 18:42 |
| paulproteus | I have a bookmarklet that gives me most of FireBug. | 18:43 |
| paulproteus | Howdy is4. | 18:43 |
| Ekushey | nathany, so can an affiliate have an localized site for themselves before the porting process is complete? | 18:44 |
| nathany | i'm not sure what you're asking | 18:44 |
| nathany | do you mean localized version of http://creativecommons.org/license? | 18:44 |
| nathany | of course anyone can publish a website :) | 18:45 |
| nathany | the use of the CC trademark is governed by the agreements we have with affiliates, so that may be a limiting factor | 18:45 |
| is4 | hey paulproteus | 18:46 |
| is4 | paulproteus, how are you guys setup for bandwidth? | 18:46 |
| paulproteus | In the office, we have some lousy DSL connection. | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | Our servers have some, like, server-class bandwidth thing that I don't know much about. | 18:47 |
| nathany | Ekushey: (see above) | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | I think it's metered. | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | My personal server has unmetered bandwidth, but that's not related to CC. | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | What are you thinking about? | 18:47 |
| nathany | it's metered but not in a way we care about (ie, we don't hit our cap) | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | Golly, we should fix that. | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Did you try port 993 yet on that GPRS connection? | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | I mean, retry, maybe. | 18:48 |
| is4 | We're in need of a content development server. | 18:48 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I haven't had a free minute to try yet. | 18:48 |
| is4 | I have some work that needs done in scraping some public databases. | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | is4, Well, it's probably out of scope for CC, but you're welcome to a shell on my server. | 18:49 |
| is4 | Buuut the material is currently in .tif, and wiki-commons needs it to be .png | 18:49 |
| * paulproteus nods | 18:49 | |
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| is4 | Yeah, I figured it might be out of scope for you guys. The problem is that it isn't in *anyone's* scope afaik | 18:49 |
| is4 | We're hesitant to spend resources on it ATM | 18:49 |
| paulproteus | is4, Join me in #freeculture? | 18:49 |
| is4 | Sure | 18:49 |
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| Ekushey | nathany, i got disconnected... did you get last message? (which was: so can an affiliate have an localized site for themselves before the porting process is complete?) | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | <nathany> i'm not sure what you're asking | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | <nathany> do you mean localized version of http://creativecommons.org/license? | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | <nathany> of course anyone can publish a website :) | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | <nathany> the use of the CC trademark is governed by the agreements we have with affiliates, so that may be a | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | limiting factor | 18:53 |
| nathany | Ekushey: what paulproteus said :) | 18:53 |
| Ekushey | nathany, i meant like http://de.creativecommons.org or http://cn.creativecommons.org | 18:55 |
| Ekushey | i'm with the CC Bangladesh team | 18:55 |
| nathany | Ekushey: i'm not familiar with how far along you are; have you published drafts yet? | 18:55 |
| Ekushey | nathany, no, not yet | 18:55 |
| nathany | so typically we don't turn on that sort of site until you're far enough along to publish license drafts | 18:56 |
| nathany | will you be hosting it yourself or need us to host? | 18:56 |
| Ekushey | ah, that answers my question :) | 18:57 |
| nathany | currybot: list | 18:58 |
| currybot | (1) PUNJABI CHANNA PANEER (Garbanzo beans and cottage cheese cubes cooked together) | 18:58 |
| currybot | (2) AJWAINI BHAJI (Several vegetables sautéed in a sauce with flavored with oregano seeds.) | 18:58 |
| currybot | (3) SAUNFIA CHICKEN (Boneless chicken cubes cooked in curry flavored with fennel seeds) | 18:58 |
| currybot | (4) MEATBALLS MADIRA (Beef meatballs cooked in curry flavored with rum) | 18:58 |
| Ekushey | initially we could go for the creativecommons.org subdomain and later move on to cc.org.bd | 18:59 |
| Ekushey | thanks nathany for the clarification | 18:59 |
| nathany | assuming you hosted yourself from the beginning (and we just handled DNS), sure | 18:59 |
| nathany | actually strike my last comment | 19:00 |
| nathany | it's not really accurate | 19:00 |
| paulproteus | Put another way: It's possible other ways than nathany said also. | 19:00 |
| nathany | :) | 19:01 |
| Ekushey | oh ok, so does that mean it's possible to have a placeholder page for now on bd.creativecommons.org provided we host it? | 19:02 |
| nathany | Ekushey: I'm reluctant to turn on DNS for that until you're at the point of having license drafts, but I'll defer to Catharina/CCi | 19:03 |
| Ekushey | oh ok, i understand | 19:04 |
| Ekushey | we can wait, not a problem | 19:04 |
| nathany | thanks :) | 19:05 |
| Ekushey | you're most welcome :) | 19:07 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: GPRS is back up. | 21:55 |
| paulproteus | Yay. | 21:55 |
| * paulproteus nmaps rose | 21:55 | |
| nkinkade | Thanks! | 21:56 |
| nkinkade | Oh, you are nmapping? It does make a distinction, too, between a drop and reset. | 21:56 |
| * paulproteus nods | 21:56 | |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, I think GPRS went down. | 21:58 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Looks like it did. I wonder if they recognize some funny activity and then disconnect you. | 22:00 |
| paulproteus | Or maybe just too much activity, too long a queue, then snap. | 22:00 |
| nkinkade | We could set nmap to work in stealth mode. | 22:01 |
| paulproteus | It picked that by default. | 22:01 |
| paulproteus | Based on "-v". | 22:02 |
| paulproteus | SYN Stealth Scan Timing: About 0.58% done | 22:02 |
| paulproteus | Increasing send delay for 202.221.145.29 from 0 to 5 due to 11 out of 20 dropped probes since last increase. | 22:02 |
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