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| jibot | Bovinity is brilliant and aware of Basement Cat, and iz not afraid. | 05:11 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 05:39 |
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| jaiZ | recently i made a theme for wordpress. I want to release it under creative commons attribution share alike license. | 07:54 |
| jaiZ | is it possible with this license that the work and it's derivations will remain always free as in GPL ? | 07:55 |
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| bringatowel | jaiZ, i think so, that is what the "share alike" clause is, then you can choose if it allows commercial or non-commercial also | 08:05 |
| jaiZ | so that means if i am giving away for free, then the other derivations will also have to be given for free...right? | 08:06 |
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| jaiZ | bringatowel, also if you could tell me a model example in case of web design for implementing this license, it would be of great help! | 08:10 |
| bringatowel | hmm what do you mean by webdesign? like including a logo & link to license? | 08:11 |
| bringatowel | yep that is the effect of share alike afaik, check out http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses | 08:12 |
| jaiZ | bringatowl, yes, and also the attribution terms. | 08:12 |
| bringatowel | its sort of up to you but there are some examples at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/HTML | 08:13 |
| jaiZ | bringatowel, thanks for your help. I just checked the example pages. In case of http://bgbg.blogspot.com/ , the site mentions the license in its footer but doesn't describe the attribution terms. | 08:20 |
| jaiZ | in this case how are we suppose to attribute the work to the creator of it | 08:20 |
| bringatowel | well any website could decide to include either a link to the license, a summary of the license, or the full license | 08:21 |
| bringatowel | agreed, it can be more helpful to include more details, but also you don't want to overwhelm people with information | 08:21 |
| jaiZ | bringatowel, cool....so the best case would be to give a link to the license page. Inform people about the attribution on a separate on my own website and mention a link to it! | 08:23 |
| bringatowel | that sounds good to me :) | 08:25 |
| bringatowel | if you can get feedback from your visitors that can also give you an idea | 08:26 |
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| jaiZ | bringatowel, thank you very much. Things are quite clear in my mind now....! Back to work...! | 08:34 |
| bringatowel | good luck =) | 08:34 |
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| jibot | Bovinity is brilliant and aware of Basement Cat, and iz not afraid. | 15:27 |
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| jibot | nathany is teh preacher of teh gozpl of teh Ceiling Cat and witness to teh menny divine miraclz of Ceiling Cat | 15:31 |
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| paulproteus | As I write the enriched RDF with the icon links, do you have a sense of where I should put those RDF files? | 15:46 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, SYN | 15:59 |
| nathany | paulproteus: ACK | 15:59 |
| paulproteus | (a) What did we decide for the RDF + icon enrichment? | 15:59 |
| paulproteus | Oh, you emailed cc-devel iirc. | 15:59 |
| paulproteus | (b) Where should I put these new assertions? | 15:59 |
| nathany | (a) I emailed cc-devel, spoke to ML briefly and there's one change i want to look at (possibly using XMP vocabulary) | 16:00 |
| paulproteus | http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-devel/2008-July/001039.html answers (a) - what of (b)? | 16:00 |
| paulproteus | Oh, huh. | 16:00 |
| paulproteus | Well for now I'll do it the way you said. | 16:00 |
| paulproteus | Since I want to be able to pull these icons out for the EOG demo. | 16:00 |
| nathany | wrt (a) i'll look at that as soon as i finish churning through email | 16:00 |
| nathany | wrt (b) it'd probably be easiest a.t.m. to put them in their own file (icons.rdf or something) with the intent to merge that information into the license files as soon as we figure out the ongoing maintenance strategy | 16:01 |
| nathany | make sense to you? | 16:02 |
| paulproteus | Yes, the question is where to commit that file. | 16:03 |
| paulproteus | (and the code to make it) | 16:03 |
| nathany | license.rdf in git? | 16:03 |
| paulproteus | Sounds good to me. | 16:03 |
| nathany | how are things coming, btw? | 16:03 |
| paulproteus | All right, the EOG tool is a little more robust now (doesn't crash when you don't run it in a magic directory). | 16:04 |
| paulproteus | I could fork onto Rhythmbox stuff, or I could go down the license icon path. | 16:04 |
| paulproteus | How did we answer the question of how to specify where we cache the PNG files at http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-devel/2008-July/001039.html ? | 16:05 |
| nathany | so what does the EOG tool do now? | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | It shows all metadata attributes in a pop-up if you click on what should be the license button at the bottom. | 16:05 |
| nathany | cache? you mean local copy? | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | Of the PNGs, right. | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | Bug: For some reason, the PNG I licensed thinks its web statement == its license. | 16:06 |
| nathany | that's out of scope for that message; i think we talked about just replicated the i.cc directory structure | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to investigate that today. | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | And hard-code the knowledge to look there? Sounds fine to me. | 16:06 |
| nathany | replicating, that is | 16:06 |
| nathany | yes | 16:06 |
| nathany | so i think my priorities would be: | 16:06 |
| nathany | a) web statement bug | 16:06 |
| nathany | b) fork into rhythmbox land | 16:07 |
| nathany | c) circle back for icons | 16:07 |
| nathany | it'd be great to have both demos going by the weekend so we could hack on them next week if we want to polish | 16:07 |
| * paulproteus nods | 16:07 | |
| paulproteus | Is there a generic XMP dumper and reader? | 16:07 |
| paulproteus | embeddedxmp2rdf or something | 16:07 |
| nathany | i think there is in the SDK | 16:08 |
| * paulproteus works on (a) | 16:08 | |
| nathany | btw, paulproteus, is the EOG code in eog_plugin or eog-plugin?" | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | Er, both exist? | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | Oops, should be hyphen only. | 16:08 |
| * paulproteus removes our underscored friend | 16:09 | |
| nathany | right, just noticed that the browser doesn't really do anything when i try the underscored link | 16:09 |
| nathany | wow, the EOG code is... compact :) | 16:10 |
| paulproteus | Still somewhat demo-quality. (-: | 16:11 |
| nathany | :) | 16:12 |
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| hdworak | hi | 16:35 |
| hdworak | http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/packages/ - this page gives instructions on how to add sources in Ubuntu | 16:36 |
| hdworak | $ deb http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/packages hardy main | 16:36 |
| hdworak | bash: deb: command not found | 16:36 |
| hdworak | paulproteus, nathany: ^^^ | 16:36 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, Er, you have to add them to sources.list. | 16:37 |
| hdworak | I've executed the first three commands (gpg, gpg, sudo apt-get update) | 16:37 |
| hdworak | then I went to the "Ubuntu" section | 16:38 |
| hdworak | I get "command not found" | 16:38 |
| hdworak | $ deb | 16:38 |
| hdworak | bash: deb: command not found | 16:38 |
| hdworak | it's Hardy Heron, not Debian | 16:38 |
| hdworak | am I missing something? | 16:38 |
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| paulproteus | <paulproteus> hdworak, Er, you have to add them to sources.list. | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list. | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | Put the deb* lines there. | 16:40 |
| hdworak | ok, append | 16:40 |
| hdworak | I get it now, thanks | 16:40 |
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| jibot | Bovinity is brilliant and aware of Basement Cat, and iz not afraid. | 16:40 |
| hdworak | the path to the file should be there imho | 16:41 |
| hdworak | shouldn't sudo apt-get update be issued afterwards? | 16:42 |
| * hdworak is installing :) | 16:43 | |
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| paulproteus | rejon1, SYN | 17:16 |
| paulproteus | I'm missing an IRC meeting I think. | 17:16 |
| paulproteus | sugar-meeting? | 17:16 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, /me goes and chats with OLPC people about liblicense-sugar | 17:24 |
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| jibot | mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons | 17:43 |
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| jibot | brianrowe is at Seattle University School of Law, class of 2009 and legal intern at CC | 17:50 |
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| mecredis | Bovinity: when you have a minute, can you give me access to create pages? | 17:51 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: create pages where? | 17:51 |
| mecredis | ah, wordpress | 17:51 |
| mecredis | going to be making something along the lines of http://creativecommons.org/legalmusicforvideos | 17:51 |
| Bovinity | ahh | 17:51 |
| Bovinity | will do | 17:52 |
| mecredis | thank you | 17:53 |
| mecredis | let me know when you're good | 17:54 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: you should be able to now, let me know if not | 17:58 |
| rohitj | http://creativecommons.org/legalmusicforvideos ... link to ccMixer is wrong I think | 17:58 |
| mecredis | yeah, great | 17:58 |
| mecredis | thanks | 17:58 |
| Bovinity | rohitj: indeed | 17:58 |
| mecredis | ... fixing | 17:58 |
| mecredis | fixed | 17:59 |
| rohitj | mecredis: did you fix it? | 18:02 |
| rohitj | I don't see the change | 18:02 |
| mecredis | hit refresh | 18:02 |
| mecredis | w/ shift? | 18:02 |
| Bovinity | it's fixed | 18:02 |
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| jibot | currybot is currytastic and <3 fair use | 18:02 |
| currybot | jibot: mmm... curry... | 18:02 |
| rohitj | mecredis: with shift worked | 18:03 |
| mecredis | yeah, cache refresh | 18:03 |
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| jibot | ftobia is the other tech intern at Creative Commons and head of RPI Free Culture | 18:03 |
| rohitj | cool | 18:03 |
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| tim_hwang | currybot list | 18:04 |
| currybot | (1) MATTAR PANEER MASALA (Delicacy of fresh English peas and home made cottage cheese cubes curry) | 18:04 |
| currybot | (2) TARKARI METHI CHAMAN (Fresh vegetables sautéed with red onions, garlic, ginger and fenugreek herb) | 18:04 |
| currybot | (3) KAJU KI MURGI (Boneless free-range chicken cooked in cashew paste, coconut, saffron, and tomato curry) | 18:04 |
| currybot | (4) TOMATO CINNAMON MEATBALL MASALA (CHEF’S SPECIAL) | 18:04 |
| Bovinity | aw man, #3 is a repeat | 18:04 |
| ftobia | currybot: 1 | 18:05 |
| currybot | MATTAR PANEER MASALA (Delicacy of fresh English peas and home made cottage cheese cubes curry) Mattar Paneer Masala is probably the most popular curry found in all over India First we prepare the cottage cheese in traditional method. The base is prepared with cumin seeds, garam masala, vine ripened tomatoes and the green peas and Paneer cheese cubes are added for stir frying on high heat. | 18:05 |
| currybot | $5.00 | 18:05 |
| tim_hwang | oh man | 18:05 |
| tim_hwang | oh man | 18:05 |
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| jibot | Steren is sitting next to greg-g and from Nancy | 18:05 |
| Bovinity | excited for the #1, tim? | 18:05 |
| ftobia | cinnamon meatball sounds interesting. | 18:05 |
| tim_hwang | yeah, so good | 18:05 |
| tim_hwang | bovinity -- will def have to avoid the repeat though | 18:05 |
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| * greg-g is heading in | 18:09 | |
| Steren | hey what was the name of the bar we went yesterday ? | 18:09 |
| nathany | Steren: Pilsner Inn was the first one... don't know if you guys went out after that or not | 18:12 |
| paulproteus | Tech Team Pub Crawl? | 18:15 |
| Bovinity | and karaoke, apparently | 18:16 |
| Steren | yeah it was Mint Karaoke Loung | 18:18 |
| paulproteus | Right by home. | 18:18 |
| mecredis | does cc.org run lycaeum? | 18:26 |
| Bovinity | we have an instance of WP-MU | 18:27 |
| mecredis | ah I see | 18:27 |
| Bovinity | www.cc.org runs plain WP | 18:27 |
| mecredis | OK | 18:28 |
| mecredis | anyone have any experience with lyceum? | 18:28 |
| nathany | paulproteus has some, iirc | 18:28 |
| mecredis | OK | 18:28 |
| * paulproteus blinks | 18:30 | |
| paulproteus | mecredis, Yes, lots. | 18:30 |
| paulproteus | What's up? | 18:30 |
| mecredis | I'm realizing its going to be good for a project I'm working on | 18:30 |
| paulproteus | Oh, cool. | 18:30 |
| mecredis | I'll talk to you more about it soon | 18:30 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 18:30 |
| mlinksva | mecredis: fwiw we're using WPMU for labs and a few other sites. Considered Lyceum, don't recall exactly what the tradeoff was | 18:36 |
| mlinksva | oh, I guess Bovinity already said that... | 18:37 |
| mecredis | lyceum seems to be good for low #s | 18:37 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 18:37 |
| mecredis | is my feeling | 18:37 |
| mecredis | at least thats how they distinguish it on wp.org | 18:37 |
| Bovinity | low # of blogs? the lyceum demo site has hundreds of the things | 18:38 |
| mecredis | hrm | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | It's sort of the opposite | 18:38 |
| jgay | hey, paulproteus I started a blog. | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | Lyceum's DB structure is in some ways more scalable. | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | OTOH, so is WP MU's in some other ways. | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | It's all hilarious and twisted. | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | And I'm just going to end up equivocating anyway. | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | Lyceum's is more normalized, and that's good for many applications. | 18:39 |
| paulproteus | WP MU uses a bunch of tables per blog. | 18:39 |
| mecredis | wow, had no idea | 18:39 |
| mecredis | I should have just come here | 18:39 |
| paulproteus | Rather than one big "posts" table with a blog_id column like Lyceum. | 18:39 |
| paulproteus | In practice, it can make little difference. | 18:39 |
| paulproteus | One downside is WP MU has more momentum. | 18:40 |
| mlinksva | funny thing, i somehow recall that i created the first stub of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyceum_(software) but it turns out i haven't even edited it. i must be going crazy | 18:40 |
| paulproteus | Disclosure: The Lyceum dev is helping me port it to WP 2.5 (er, now 2.6). | 18:40 |
| paulproteus | Related to that downside to Lyceum is that it's still based on WP 2.0.x. | 18:40 |
| paulproteus | Though that's changing right now. | 18:40 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: are they still using that default theme i made for them? | 18:40 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Probably! | 18:41 |
| Bovinity | neato | 18:41 |
| paulproteus | I didn't check, but I can later. (-: | 18:41 |
| mecredis | I haven't seen this much traffic on this channel since currybot was launched | 18:41 |
| paulproteus | There are (quite) a few topics that cause me to write a lot. | 18:41 |
| mlinksva | currybot is what drew me back in :) | 18:41 |
| currybot | mlinksva: mmm... curry... | 18:41 |
| paulproteus | Now *I*'m hungry. | 18:41 |
| * paulproteus frantically checks for his HOPE ticket | 18:42 | |
| paulproteus | Was about to say "see you tomorrow". | 18:42 |
| mecredis | haha | 18:43 |
| mecredis | I thnk it is | 18:43 |
| mecredis | tomorrow | 18:43 |
| mlinksva | why don't the lyceum folk just take the opportunity to create a decent alternative to WP altogehter, in a decent programming language? | 18:43 |
| nathany | when i evaluated a big difference was that every user had to have a blog on Lyceum (not our goal on MU) | 18:44 |
| mlinksva | nathany: ah right! | 18:44 |
| nathany | that may have changed by now | 18:44 |
| paulproteus | That wasn't even true back then. | 18:44 |
| paulproteus | As I mentioned back then. | 18:44 |
| paulproteus | So, like, everyone stop saying it. | 18:44 |
| paulproteus | "Everyone out of the gene pool." | 18:45 |
| nathany | sorry, my mistake | 18:45 |
| nathany | the commonality is that i just can't be bothered to care | 18:46 |
| * paulproteus shrugs | 18:46 | |
| paulproteus | "I'm not *not* licking toads." | 18:46 |
| paulproteus | <http://snpp.com/episodes/BABF11.html> | 18:46 |
| mecredis | oh snpp | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | oh snap | 18:47 |
| mecredis | how I miss you | 18:47 |
| nathany | paulproteus: wrt the image metadata, i think we'll go with what i proposed on cc-devel, noting that i got the namespace URI for exif wrong | 18:48 |
| nathany | should be http://www.w3.org/2003/12/exif/ns | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Cool. | 18:48 |
| tim_hwang | what time is it? | 19:00 |
| tim_hwang | that's right | 19:01 |
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| paulproteus | Francesca, Hi again. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | I'm about to run away for a day or a few. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | So if you want to talk let's talk now! | 19:12 |
| Francesca | sorry I ran off | 19:12 |
| Francesca | I was meeting someone for lunc | 19:13 |
| Francesca | h | 19:13 |
| paulproteus | No problem. | 19:13 |
| Francesca | let me pull up the link | 19:15 |
| Francesca | actually I just figured it out | 19:19 |
| paulproteus | Cool! | 19:19 |
| Francesca | mel was editing at the same time I was | 19:19 |
| Francesca | so her changes were put in first | 19:19 |
| Francesca | I'll get in touch with mel | 19:19 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus, | 19:45 |
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| isforinsects | Help us Paul Proteus, your our Last HOPE | 19:46 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: ? | 19:46 |
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| tim_hwang | re: lunch | 20:13 |
| tim_hwang | http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/9511801/detail.html | 20:13 |
| Bovinity | they kinda resemble trolls | 20:16 |
| greg-g | wow, yeah | 20:22 |
| isforinsects | nkinkade, he's going to the Last HOPE is all? | 20:23 |
| tim_hwang | yeah, i guess it was kind of the role they were born to play | 20:26 |
| nathany | sigh... summary judgment, shoot 'em in the head | 20:30 |
| mecredis | the guy on the left's eyes just scream | 20:39 |
| mecredis | I'M FREAKING OUT MAN | 20:39 |
| mecredis | Boville, who was with Hibbs, reportedly told police that they had consumed LSD and that Hibbs was having a bad trip. | 20:39 |
| ftobia | nathany: let me know when you're around for a minute, i have a how-should-i-include-questions.xml-in-cc.license question. | 20:43 |
| nathany | ftobia: ok | 20:43 |
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| jibot | rejon is a killer MC from staten island and is the 10th member of the wutang clan and http://www.rejon.org/ | 21:31 |
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| brianrowe | Do we have any contacts at Internet Archive. The CC Summer Interns are interested in heading over there near lunch and visiting with people. | 21:40 |
| brianrowe | I know there is a public number to call for visting on fridays for the web page, just curious if there is a better way to contact them. | 21:41 |
| mlinksva | brianrowe: yes, rejon has had most recent regular contact with them | 21:41 |
| brianrowe | mlinksva: thx | 21:42 |
| rejon | brianrowe: just do that url way for IA lunch | 21:44 |
| rejon | its at noon | 21:44 |
| rejon | get there about 15 min early though to get a seat | 21:44 |
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| ftobia | paulproteus, nathany, any idea why i'm getting: frank@puma:~/sandboxes/license.rdf$ git push | 21:48 |
| ftobia | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly | 21:48 |
| nathany | no | 21:48 |
| ftobia | i can push from cc.license but not license.rdf. | 21:48 |
| ftobia | seems odd. | 21:49 |
| nathany | license.rdf is probably readonly since it's a submodule | 21:49 |
| nathany | or is this not the submodule checkout? | 21:49 |
| ftobia | this is in its own checkout. | 21:49 |
| nathany | oh | 21:49 |
| nathany | hrm | 21:49 |
| nathany | checked out the readonly way, right? | 21:50 |
| nathany | read-write, that is | 21:50 |
| nathany | sorry, i'm brain dead | 21:50 |
| ftobia | hmm. | 21:50 |
| ftobia | let me check | 21:50 |
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| ftobia | nathany: i think that was it, because it works now. thanks. | 21:56 |
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| mlinksva | rejon: what time is that mixer over tuesday? | 22:09 |
| rejon | can leave anytime | 22:10 |
| mlinksva | how about 7 @ ti couz? | 22:10 |
| mlinksva | 16th & valencia | 22:11 |
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| rejon | that is that crepe place right? | 22:18 |
| mlinksva | rejon: yeah | 22:18 |
| nathany | paulproteus: SYN | 22:29 |
| nathany | mlinksva: I'm feeling the need for a public bug tracker for things like the search prototype, liblicense, etc | 22:34 |
| nathany | i'd like to continue avoiding SF.net's like the plague | 22:34 |
| nathany | teamspace is not public, so not a good mapping to tasks there | 22:34 |
| nathany | does this seem like solid/sound/sane basis for running roundup or trac or the like? | 22:34 |
| mlinksva | yes, that is if the public wiki can't be made to work for that purpose | 22:42 |
| mlinksva | nathany: | 22:42 |
| mlinksva | 'course if teamspace would work if it were public, then the public wiki obviously would work :) | 22:43 |
| nathany | right | 22:43 |
| nathany | public/private is the most obvious reason teamspace won't... there's also this feeling that the tasks system, as is, isn't great for recording history (message log) like i expect in a bug tracker | 22:44 |
| nathany | of course, maybe i just need to figure out the "discussion on the article page" thing for AcaWiki and apply that to the tasks system as well | 22:44 |
| mlinksva | yeah, it would be really cool if there were a fully usable SMW based tracker | 22:45 |
| mlinksva | another subject, so what is the xmlns replacement proposal? | 22:45 |
| mlinksva | i couldn't tell from the quoted material | 22:45 |
| mlinksva | surely it is not curieprefix attribute? | 22:45 |
| nathany | yes, that's exactly what it is | 22:46 |
| mlinksva | somehow it feels like that's going off into laalalalalalalla land | 22:46 |
| mlinksva | how many people realize wtf a curie is? | 22:47 |
| mlinksva | i guess in absence of that it is not bad | 22:47 |
| ftobia | unit of radiation. | 22:47 |
| mlinksva | see! :) | 22:47 |
| nathany | well i'm sure the attribute name will go through several rounds of design by committee before it goes out | 22:47 |
| mlinksva | right | 22:47 |
| nathany | i'm just glad it's not as bad as it sounded -- a path for HTML and one for XHTML | 22:47 |
| mlinksva | they did end up with something reasonable w @typeof | 22:47 |
| mlinksva | i forgot what stupid thing it was originally | 22:48 |
| nathany | right | 22:48 |
| nathany | @instance | 22:48 |
| cchelpbot` | nathany: Error: "instance" is not a valid command. | 22:48 |
| nathany | @instance | 22:48 |
| nathany | mlinksva: the other thing i worry about with the SMW tracker (perhaps - no probably - needlessly) is page proliferation... | 22:49 |
| mlinksva | what problem is being solved anyway? it seems to be coming up wrt HTML4, and neither xmlns nor fooprefixbar is ok | 22:49 |
| nathany | just saying it makes it sound like probably not a real issue | 22:49 |
| nathany | mlinksva: the problem is people who have small small minds wrt attributes names | 22:50 |
| mlinksva | well, that's just how SMW works, sometimes gives me bad dreams | 22:50 |
| nathany | they see "xmlns" and think "OMG! NO! you'll pry my SGML from my cold dead hands" | 22:50 |
| nathany | so basically we're just placating morons, best i can tell | 22:50 |
| nathany | to quote the victor "it's just code, man! just code!" | 22:50 |
| mlinksva | has there been any use of namespaces (hahahhahaa, everything is a name[spacing] problem) for SMW apps, e.g. Tracker: | 22:51 |
| mlinksva | soas to not turn up the zillions of app pages in a normal search | 22:51 |
| mlinksva | ? | 22:51 |
| nathany | mlinksva: there hasn't been yet but i've been thinking about confining everything into one or more namespace ghetto[s] | 22:51 |
| nathany | ie, Project:UESearch for the project dashboard, "Task:Make it pretty" or something for a task page name | 22:52 |
| mlinksva | that makes sense to me, first glance anyway | 22:52 |
| nathany | my thought was that that sort of change would happen as we attempted to package the application | 22:53 |
| mlinksva | 7pm tuesday it is, rejon, brianrowe, whoever else | 22:53 |
| nathany | did you see the whiteboarding paulproteus and i did for Semantic Actions and Semantic Packaging | 22:53 |
| nathany | ? | 22:53 |
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| mlinksva | no | 22:53 |
| nathany | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nathan_y/2611966782/ | 22:54 |
| nathany | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nathan_y/2611968330/ | 22:54 |
| mlinksva | that requires some concentration to parse | 22:57 |
| mlinksva | but via that i found http://www.flickr.com/photos/rtkim/2647588741/ | 22:57 |
| mlinksva | hilarious | 22:57 |
| nathany | lol | 22:58 |
| nathany | yeah | 22:58 |
| nathany | any time i use a LOL in my twitter message, Richard turns it into a LOLnathan | 22:58 |
| nathany | mlinksva: see also, http://www.flickr.com/photos/rtkim/2605103669/ | 22:59 |
| mlinksva | i think you need to be taken out of both and have lessig and miket in one, and just two of you in another | 23:00 |
| Bovinity | nathany: his maddie pics are great | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | nathany: How is the default system version of python determined on Debian? | 23:02 |
| mlinksva | go ben | 23:02 |
| nkinkade | From where /usr/bin/python points? | 23:02 |
| mlinksva | nathany: btw did you see toby's frankenstein extending-hcard-w/rdfa | 23:02 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yes | 23:02 |
| nathany | i saw | 23:02 |
| mlinksva | for some reason i found that hilarius | 23:02 |
| nathany | couldn't bring myself to read it carefully... brain isn't quite working today | 23:02 |
| mlinksva | nor is mine | 23:03 |
| mlinksva | all for work on SemTasks tho | 23:03 |
| nathany | i think most of staff is semi-brain-dead today | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | Debian must have it's own idea about that independent of /usr/bin/python | 23:03 |
| nathany | nkinkade: why do you say that? | 23:03 |
| mlinksva | i'm still on a rainbow connection high | 23:03 |
| nathany | lol | 23:04 |
| mlinksva | ok, back to brain stunting rfps and stuff... | 23:04 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Because apt-src is failing to build because of an unmet dep. of python >=2.5, yet 2.5 is installed | 23:05 |
| nkinkade | And I get that even after changing the /usr/bin/python symlink | 23:05 |
| nathany | well that doesn't sound like a *default* python issue | 23:05 |
| nathany | sounds like apt just not know wtf is going on | 23:05 |
| nkinkade | No, I don't think it is, which is why I said that Debian must have it's own idea about that. | 23:06 |
| nathany | right... i think you can do dpkg -L to get a list of packages installed, grep for Python as a first step | 23:06 |
| nkinkade | They are both there, but I need to get apt-src to think that 2.5 is there. | 23:07 |
| rejon | brain dead! I'm still euphoric from our collective moment of musical pause :) | 23:23 |
| mlinksva | rejon i think it slightly went over most people's heads. they don't realize what they witnessed, at least not fully | 23:25 |
| rejon | yes, agree...well, then a few of us had a moment ;) | 23:30 |
| rejon | if only an electric sax player and bongo player could have entered | 23:31 |
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