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jibot | davidstrauss is "P" and not "P" | 00:00 |
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jibot | rejon is a killer MC from staten island and is the 10th member of the wutang clan and http://www.rejon.org/ | 00:48 |
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jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 01:35 |
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jibot | davidstrauss is "P" and not "P" | 01:36 |
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isforinsects | paulproteus: sleeping (SYN)? | 02:41 |
paulproteus | isforinsects, Hi | 02:58 |
paulproteus | isforinsects, Not asleep yet. | 02:58 |
paulproteus | Soon, though. What's up? | 02:58 |
isforinsects | Sooo... want to join a phone conference about a post-apocalpyse data storage of Public Commons materials and culture? | 02:58 |
isforinsects | A seed bank, if you will, for culture and technology. | 02:58 |
paulproteus | isforinsects, Right now? | 03:01 |
isforinsects | Maybe just IRC as a back channel to everything else we all seem to be doing? I'm talking to several other people and only two or so can call tonight. | 03:02 |
isforinsects | :P | 03:02 |
paulproteus | I'm really tired. | 03:03 |
paulproteus | Can we all talk tomorrow maybe? | 03:03 |
paulproteus | If not, then minutes are okay with me. | 03:03 |
isforinsects | Tomorrow seems better for everyone | 03:03 |
isforinsects | I will ping you if I can get somethign set up. | 03:03 |
paulproteus | Great, any time before 5 PM I can probably do. | 03:03 |
paulproteus | The more notice ,the better. (I'm in Eastern Time right now.) | 03:04 |
isforinsects | Back in NY? | 03:05 |
isforinsects | as am I btw | 03:05 |
paulproteus | I'll be in NYC for HOPE. | 03:07 |
paulproteus | DC for now. | 03:07 |
isforinsects | aaah | 03:09 |
isforinsects | Right | 03:09 |
isforinsects | I need to go to that | 03:09 |
paulproteus | Then I'd see you there. | 03:40 |
paulproteus | "IRL" as they say. | 03:40 |
paulproteus | For now, good night. | 03:40 |
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jibot | rejon is a killer MC from staten island and is the 10th member of the wutang clan and http://www.rejon.org/ | 05:50 |
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davidmccabe | hey paulproteus, how do I revert a file on one branch to the version in another branch? | 07:57 |
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Renich | hey, creative guys! | 09:44 |
Renich | anyone awake? | 09:44 |
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bringatowel | hmm im awake, dunno about creative... | 11:07 |
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XTKX_VB | hello | 13:44 |
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jibot | nathany is teh preacher of teh gozpl of teh Ceiling Cat and witness to teh menny divine miraclz of Ceiling Cat | 14:59 |
balor | I'm now the representative of a pan-European research organisation (for my sins against Ceiling Cat). If I was looking to get some advice (in some confidence) on how to licence all our publications under CC terms, who could I contact? | 15:01 |
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jibot | brianrowe is at Seattle University School of Law, class of 2009 and legal intern at CC | 15:02 |
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balor | I'm specifically looking for British/European advice. | 15:03 |
balor | or I should say European/British advice as an order of preference | 15:04 |
greg-g | balor: if you are looking for legal advice, it is best to talk with a lawyer. We don't legally advise people (IANAL). | 15:10 |
balor | greg-g: I'm not looking for legal advice. just someone to discuss our particular situation and to get some insight from the CC. | 15:11 |
balor | greg-g: As an open-source developer I know these things are best done in the open | 15:11 |
balor | greg-g: But I can't talk about this openly yet.. | 15:12 |
greg-g | balor: ahh, I see | 15:12 |
greg-g | well, there are resources online in our wiki, wiki.creativecommons.org | 15:13 |
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nathany | balor: if you're looking for someone with EU perspective, maybe check out http://creativecommons.org/international | 15:13 |
nathany | you might be able to contact one of the EU country leads | 15:13 |
balor | nathany: That may be the best route. | 15:14 |
greg-g | balor: good luck with the endeavor | 15:14 |
balor | greg-g: Thanks. | 15:14 |
paulproteus | *endeavour | 15:15 |
greg-g | thanks paulproteus :) | 15:15 |
nathany | i mean, CC can provide private consultation about the licenses and how you might mark the works, etc, but we don't have much EU perspective | 15:15 |
balor | nathany: I *think* what I need is to learn of experiences of dealing with publishers and to know whether the licence *I've* chosen to foist on our authors is the most reasonable choice, for whatever value of reasonable you want to assume. | 15:18 |
nathany | hrm | 15:19 |
nathany | i don't know that we have that sort of experience | 15:19 |
nathany | one other option would be to ask on the cc-community mailing list | 15:19 |
nathany | most of the responses will be way off base, but you might find some someone with that experience | 15:20 |
balor | I really can't say much on public lists until we've gone down the road a bit further. | 15:20 |
nathany | right | 15:20 |
* balor hates office politics | 15:20 | |
nathany | i was saying you could solicit people with experience using CC w/Publishers | 15:20 |
balor | nathany: That makes sense | 15:20 |
nathany | like i said, you'll get lots of people bike shedding, but you might find someone :) | 15:21 |
balor | Great | 15:21 |
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balor | In general, I've been pimping the CC-BY licence to academics. Is this a reasonable choice? Or am I missing something significant. We'd want a licence that can handle format shifting and allow many libraries to archive the work (without arduous legal processes). | 15:23 |
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balor | Which seems to rule out CC-BY-ND or CC-BY-NC | 15:23 |
paulproteus | balor++ | 15:24 |
paulproteus | You're thinking along the right lines. | 15:24 |
paulproteus | Science Commons' website may have some resources for advocating open access to publications. | 15:24 |
paulproteus | They agree with the recommendation of just CC-BY. | 15:24 |
nathany | balor: note that CC licenses (even ND) explicitly allow format shifting | 15:24 |
nathany | but i think you're on the right track | 15:24 |
balor | paulproteus: I've had a look. But I need to pitch this at some traditional publishers. I was hoping someone had experience with it. | 15:25 |
balor | nathany: I didn't realise that. | 15:25 |
paulproteus | The SC folks may have some experience. | 15:25 |
balor | nathany: I think academics would be happier with an ND licence. We tend to view a piece of work as authorative. | 15:25 |
balor | nathany: does format-shifting extend to, say, taking a PDF and restructuring the layout to fit a HTML publication? | 15:26 |
nathany | it seems to me ND is the opposite of what most academics do (building on work of others, etc) | 15:26 |
balor | nathany: or is that a derrivative | 15:26 |
nathany | i'm not sure... i think it'd be ok, but IANAL | 15:26 |
balor | nathany: We build on others works, but their work is "set in stone" so to say. | 15:27 |
nathany | right, but just because you create a derivative doesn't make their work any less set in stone | 15:27 |
balor | nathany: There's an authorative piece of work that we criticise or improve. | 15:27 |
nathany | right | 15:27 |
balor | nathany: They'd really not like, say, me removing a paragraph from their work. | 15:27 |
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jibot | Bovinity is brilliant and aware of Basement Cat, and iz not afraid. | 15:27 |
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balor | nathany: but I'd like to be able to re-layout the work for print and screen. | 15:28 |
nathany | sure, but you couldn't still call it their work, you'd have to cite them and no one taking a real look at the work would believe you were doing anything substantiative | 15:28 |
nathany | so it doesn't seem like it hurts them | 15:28 |
nathany | (where cite == "attribution" above, possibly stronger than typical citation) | 15:28 |
paulproteus | ND makes translations illegal, even if you attribute the original and mention that you are not the original. | 15:29 |
nathany | of course, you know your community better than i... i just think that doing an ND license would put you out of step with science commons and open access generally | 15:29 |
balor | nathany: Does CC-BY-ND cover the case where I have to rework an article to fit onto a screen? | 15:29 |
paulproteus | balor, You should read the format-shifting section of the license; for me, at least, it's been a while since I read that section. | 15:29 |
balor | nathany: A worry might be along the lines of: J.R. Hacker publishes "Life" in which he states "black is white". Under a CC-BY licence someone could flood the net with a PDF purporting to be by J.R. Hacker which states "black is blue". | 15:31 |
paulproteus | Is there maybe a talking points section of the SC website for this? | 15:31 |
balor | Or am I waaay off base. | 15:31 |
nathany | balor: to the extent that's a legitimate worry, i don't think it's at all related to the CC license you choose. | 15:31 |
paulproteus | balor, I would email http://sciencecommons.org/contact/ (feel free to CC: me, asheesh at creativecommons.org) and see if they have some perspectives to share or talking points. | 15:32 |
nathany | if you use BY-ND, it's infringement, if you use BY, it's still infringement (since you're purporting that J.R. Hacker endorses your re-use of their work, which the license prohibitis) | 15:32 |
balor | nathany: ok..I'd like to hear that argument. Does it say that if someone is ethically bad enough to misrepresent your work they would also violate a CC-BY-ND licence? | 15:32 |
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paulproteus | I'm going to run off for a while, but nathany may continue to be interesting. | 15:32 |
balor | nathany: ah! | 15:32 |
paulproteus | (-: last tip: do read the licenses' legal code through!) | 15:33 |
balor | paulproteus: Will re-read | 15:33 |
nathany | balor: plus you could probably make the argument that impersonating J.R. Hacker isn't the same as attributing him | 15:33 |
nathany | so i think this is just a "putting work on the web" fear, disguised as a CC license fear | 15:34 |
balor | nathany: Surprisingly most of the authors are happy with it. I just want to be sure I've chosen the most appropriate licence where appropriate may mean conservative. It's the publishers who think that this is poison. | 15:35 |
nathany | right | 15:35 |
nathany | sounds like you're doing a lot of investigation to get this right, which is a good thing :) | 15:36 |
balor | Well I've already done some re-licencing of work under a CC-BY licence. We're just looking to extend what I thought was a one-off project to cover work over the next 4 years. | 15:36 |
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nathany | ah, cool | 15:37 |
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jibot | ftobia is the other tech intern at Creative Commons and head of RPI Free Culture | 15:37 |
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balor | It's ok to screw it up once (which we didn't), but I'd rather not screw it up over the next 4 years. | 15:37 |
balor | nathany: Many thanks for this useful conversation. It's hometime in Europe. I hope you'll be hearing from me in the near(ish) future :) | 15:38 |
nathany | balor: great :) | 15:38 |
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hdworak | hi | 15:54 |
paulproteus | Howdy hdworak. | 15:57 |
hdworak | why on why noone at labs.cc has mentioned that videos from the CC Tech Summit are available at YouTube | 15:58 |
hdworak | I'm adding an entry now | 15:58 |
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paulproteus | hdworak, Cool (-: | 15:59 |
hdworak | no, wait | 15:59 |
hdworak | the links are hidden at ccwiki | 15:59 |
paulproteus | It's blogged on the real blog too iirc. | 15:59 |
hdworak | you click on "CC Tech Summit pre-blogging" | 16:00 |
hdworak | there's a link "tech summit" | 16:00 |
hdworak | and at the bottom table you have a right column with "video" links | 16:00 |
hdworak | :) | 16:00 |
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jibot | Steren is sitting next to greg-g and from Nancy | 16:01 |
hdworak | so I dunno, whether it's okay to embed videos in a new lab entry | 16:01 |
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greg-g | hdworak: I blogged it on the main CC blog | 16:02 |
hdworak | main CC blog? | 16:02 |
greg-g | creativecommons.org | 16:02 |
greg-g | check it out, its a blog | 16:02 |
hdworak | http://creativecommons.org/weblog | 16:02 |
hdworak | ah, ok | 16:02 |
hdworak | didn't know about that | 16:03 |
hdworak | sorry for false alarm then | 16:03 |
greg-g | :) | 16:03 |
hdworak | :) | 16:03 |
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hdworak | paulproteus: seems that liblicense would be useful for the libvalidator | 16:29 |
paulproteus | hdworak, I agree. | 16:29 |
hdworak | (based on your talk) | 16:29 |
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paulproteus | I was thinking you could upload files to the validator and it could ask liblicense for the license and show off the license info. | 16:29 |
hdworak | does it support HTML, XHTML or RSS/ATOM? | 16:29 |
paulproteus | (and other embedded metadata) | 16:29 |
hdworak | exactly | 16:29 |
paulproteus | No, liblicense handles none of those formats, just media. | 16:29 |
hdworak | the Web application will support file upload and downloading an URI | 16:30 |
paulproteus | If you can build this feature by next Thursday we will totally demo it and credit you. (-: | 16:30 |
hdworak | (direct input would make little sense for multimedia I guess) | 16:30 |
hdworak | at Portland? | 16:30 |
hdworak | :) | 16:30 |
hdworak | gonna see what I can do | 16:31 |
paulproteus | hdworak, Yup, at OSCON. | 16:33 |
hdworak | do you have auto-detection of file format implemented? | 16:33 |
paulproteus | hdworak, yup. | 16:33 |
hdworak | or would MIME type would be of any use? | 16:34 |
hdworak | or file extension | 16:34 |
hdworak | or user override? | 16:34 |
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jibot | Bovinity is brilliant and aware of Basement Cat, and iz not afraid. | 16:34 |
paulproteus | hdworak, Allowing the user to select the file format rather than have it auto-detect would be possibly useful. | 16:38 |
paulproteus | I think that the auto-detect always works, though. | 16:38 |
ftobia | nathany: just because a license is superseded, that doesn't necessarily mean it's deprecated, yes? | 16:39 |
nathany | ftobia: correct | 16:39 |
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hdworak | paulproteus: do you use magic numbers for that? | 16:40 |
paulproteus | hdworak, I... don't remember. | 16:40 |
hdworak | ok :) | 16:40 |
ftobia | and if a license is replaced by license2, and license2 is replaced by license3, calling license.current_version() should return license3? | 16:40 |
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jibot | mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons | 16:48 |
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jibot | currybot is currytastic and <3 fair use | 17:59 |
currybot | jibot: mmm... curry... | 17:59 |
ftobia | currybot: list | 17:59 |
currybot | (1) KASHMIRI RAJMAH (Kidney beans cooked in onion,ginger,garlic,tomato and masala curry ) | 17:59 |
currybot | (2) TARKARI HARYALA (Fresh vegetables sautéed with red onions, garlic, ginger, and fresh mustard green leaves) | 17:59 |
currybot | (3) CHICKEN KHUMANI (Chicken cubes cooked in yogurt base gravy with dry apricots) | 17:59 |
currybot | (4) MEATBALL-DO-PIYAZA (Meatball cooked in curry flavored raw mangoes, onions, tomatoes and vinegar) | 17:59 |
ftobia | currybot: 1 | 17:59 |
currybot | KASHMIRI RAJMAH (Kidney beans cooked in onion,ginger,garlic,tomato and masala curry ) Kashmir the Paradise of India is one of the largest producers of kidney beans, and Kidney beans are enjoyed all over world and are cooked in different ways. Here these are first soaked overnight in water and a little salt, then these are cooked in the base curry using many Kashmiri spices. | 17:59 |
currybot | $5.00 | 17:59 |
Bovinity | khumani ftw | 18:00 |
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nathany | ajbrooks: btw, i think your edits to the events stuff may have broken things | 18:09 |
nathany | (see http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcLearn_Events) | 18:09 |
Bovinity | actually it's a url change. (CcLearn_Events should have a redirect to the new page, though) | 18:12 |
nathany | ah | 18:12 |
nathany | well the map isn't showing any events... not sure if other things got moved as well | 18:12 |
* paulproteus blinks in y'all's general direction | 18:14 | |
Bovinity | the map rendering, i have no idea about. possibly ping asheesh | 18:14 |
Bovinity | oh hi | 18:14 |
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nathany | wait, i just realized ajbrooks didn't reply | 18:15 |
nathany | did he move the page? | 18:15 |
nathany | Bovinity: that page still has a query in it, it's just broken now | 18:18 |
nathany | give the mass of edits by ajbrooks in the Event templates, it seems not unreasonable to assume the two are related | 18:19 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Did you see the above about the learn map not rendering? | 18:21 |
nkinkade | (fully) | 18:22 |
nathany | paulproteus: nevermind | 18:22 |
nathany | it's fine | 18:22 |
Bovinity | epic fail averted. | 18:22 |
nkinkade | My browser isn't showing the ping either. | 18:22 |
nkinkade | Was it a cache issue nathany? | 18:22 |
nathany | so it sounds like a caching problem | 18:22 |
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nathany | when i retrieved the text file manually it suddenly worked | 18:22 |
nathany | is varnish doing... something? with that that's confusing browsers? | 18:23 |
ajbrooks | nathany: redirect is there now | 18:25 |
nathany | thanks :) | 18:25 |
nathany | yeah, leaving blank pages lying around is not great | 18:25 |
nathany | if you move the content, add a REDIRECT; if you want the page deleted, email webmaster | 18:25 |
ajbrooks | totally, I actually would just like to delete it | 18:25 |
nkinkade | nathany: Varnish shouldn't be caching anything. | 18:25 |
ajbrooks | will do | 18:25 |
nkinkade | paulproteus put a special rule in the Varnish config to explicitly telling Varnish to not cache: /events-map/textfile.txt | 18:26 |
nkinkade | Is there another file involved? | 18:26 |
nathany | note that breaking links is bad, so we typically only delete if the content was inappropriate (spam) or transitional | 18:26 |
nathany | nkinkade: nope, that's the one i retrieved | 18:26 |
nathany | weird | 18:26 |
nkinkade | My browser still isn't showing the push-pins, even after empty the cache and force reloading. | 18:27 |
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jibot | davidstrauss is "P" and not "P" | 18:27 |
nkinkade | The requested URL /~paulproteus/pin_green_h=20.png was not found on this server. | 18:27 |
nkinkade | That seems to be the push-pin URL. | 18:27 |
nkinkade | Or that's what my browser thinks it is. | 18:28 |
nathany | it's really http://labs.creativecommons.org/~paulproteus/pins/pin_green_h=20.png | 18:28 |
nathany | it's fine for me... and since it became fine after retrieving the text file manually that makes me think it's something to do with that getting cached, misinterpreted, something | 18:29 |
nathany | sigh | 18:29 |
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tim_hwang | currybot list | 19:04 |
currybot | (1) KASHMIRI RAJMAH (Kidney beans cooked in onion,ginger,garlic,tomato and masala curry ) | 19:04 |
currybot | (2) TARKARI HARYALA (Fresh vegetables sautéed with red onions, garlic, ginger, and fresh mustard green leaves) | 19:04 |
currybot | (3) CHICKEN KHUMANI (Chicken cubes cooked in yogurt base gravy with dry apricots) | 19:04 |
currybot | (4) MEATBALL-DO-PIYAZA (Meatball cooked in curry flavored raw mangoes, onions, tomatoes and vinegar) | 19:04 |
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cameronparkins | currybot list | 19:07 |
currybot | (1) KASHMIRI RAJMAH (Kidney beans cooked in onion,ginger,garlic,tomato and masala curry ) | 19:07 |
currybot | (2) TARKARI HARYALA (Fresh vegetables sautéed with red onions, garlic, ginger, and fresh mustard green leaves) | 19:07 |
currybot | (3) CHICKEN KHUMANI (Chicken cubes cooked in yogurt base gravy with dry apricots) | 19:07 |
currybot | (4) MEATBALL-DO-PIYAZA (Meatball cooked in curry flavored raw mangoes, onions, tomatoes and vinegar) | 19:07 |
cameronparkins | YES! it is trueeeeeeeeeee | 19:07 |
tvol | haha, the currybot blowing cameronparkins mind | 19:07 |
cameronparkins | I'll have a 1/2 combo please | 19:07 |
cameronparkins | can someone fedex that too me? | 19:07 |
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ftobia | nathany: should a Jurisdiction object take a "short code" or a URI to initialize itself? they're pretty directly translatable from what i can tell. | 19:54 |
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nathany | ugh | 19:55 |
nathany | so i think that URI is the "correct" thing to do, but using a short code would be useful in many situations | 19:55 |
ftobia | i can make it both. or either. or come up with some other way of choosing them. | 19:55 |
nathany | so i'd probably make the constructor take the URI and add a factory method for using the code | 19:56 |
ftobia | sounds good. | 19:56 |
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jibot | rejon is a killer MC from staten island and is the 10th member of the wutang clan and http://www.rejon.org/ | 21:25 |
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rejon | post-larry karaoke | 21:34 |
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nkinkade | Bovinity do you know anything about the site cswgspace? | 21:48 |
nkinkade | mlinksva: ^^^ Is that site still active? | 21:48 |
Bovinity | it rings a bell | 21:48 |
mlinksva | nkinkade: it was a site for an internal working group | 21:58 |
mlinksva | i think it was the subject of dataloss | 21:58 |
mlinksva | only site lost in a disaster last summer | 21:59 |
mlinksva | an intern did sudo rm -rf /lib or similar | 21:59 |
mlinksva | do you remember? | 21:59 |
nkinkade | mlinksva: Was I involved in that disaster? I feel like I was. In any case, can really do it some damage now and DROP DATABASE cswgspace? | 21:59 |
Bovinity | oh that disaster | 21:59 |
Bovinity | you were here when it happened | 22:00 |
mlinksva | is there anything in it? | 22:00 |
mlinksva | i thought it was completely lost | 22:00 |
nkinkade | It might have been totally lost. I'll check now. | 22:00 |
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jibot | nathany is teh preacher of teh gozpl of teh Ceiling Cat and witness to teh menny divine miraclz of Ceiling Cat | 22:00 |
nkinkade | mlinksva: http://cswgspace.creativecommons.org ... it appears to be empty. | 22:02 |
nkinkade | Does that mean that there is no reason to even have it around anymore? I'd prefer to get rid of it if it's not in use. | 22:03 |
nkinkade | How about I don't migrate it from a6 to a7, and we'll call it day. If someone by change complains later, then I'll just install a new wiki for that purpose. | 22:04 |
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nkinkade | ("call IT a day" & "by CHANCE" - I meant to say) | 22:04 |
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nathany | nkinkade: is it really empty? i seem to remember that we actually lost that wiki in the great /var/lib removal of 2007 | 22:10 |
nathany | and weren't backing it up | 22:10 |
nathany | i'd double check with mlinksva verbally if you haven't already as to whether people will miss it | 22:10 |
mlinksva | i guess it really is gone | 22:11 |
mlinksva | http://cswgspace.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php/Special:Allpages | 22:11 |
mlinksva | Main Page is the only page | 22:11 |
mlinksva | go ahead and remove it, nkinkade | 22:11 |
Steren | Fear the French interns :) | 22:12 |
nathany | Steren: exactly | 22:12 |
nathany | :) | 22:12 |
nkinkade | nathany: (late reply), yeah, we did lost that DB in the Great "rm -rf /var/lib" Catastrophe of 2007, it's been empty ever since. | 22:15 |
nathany | got it | 22:15 |
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jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 22:41 |
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greg-g | semantic web discussion galore | 22:47 |
Steren | nathany: I need some help concerning RDFa : <h3 rel="cc:p: permits" href="http://creativecommons.org/ns#Reproduction">BLABLABLA</h3> <- This is not allowed and don't know how to do the relation without the use of a real hyperlink | 22:53 |
nathany | what's not allowed about it? | 22:53 |
nathany | href on h23? | 22:54 |
nathany | h3, that is? | 22:54 |
Steren | yes | 22:54 |
Steren | I didn't read it but all examples use <a> | 22:54 |
nathany | right... but i think the XHTML+RDFa profile extends href to be valid on all elements | 22:54 |
Steren | and the validator refuses href on h3 | 22:54 |
nathany | hrm | 22:54 |
nathany | that sucks | 22:55 |
Steren | yeah | 22:55 |
mecredis | that does suck | 22:55 |
nathany | and the doctype and profile are set correctly? | 22:55 |
Steren | Doctype: XHTML + RDFa | 22:56 |
Steren | what is the profile exactly ? | 22:56 |
nathany | one second, let me find the email where ben described it | 22:56 |
nathany | Steren: i just forwarded you an email | 22:58 |
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nathany | i don't know if adding the profile to head will work | 22:58 |
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nathany | if it doesn't, i'll ping ben... i'm sure that there's a way to do a resource triple on something other than <a> | 22:59 |
Steren | ok I didn't added the profile, I'll test | 22:59 |
Steren | nathany: well adding the profile in the head doesn't change anything | 23:02 |
nathany | ok, let me ping ben | 23:03 |
nathany | skip for now, i'd say -- i'm 99.999% sure there's a way to make it work | 23:03 |
Steren | I didn't find it easily on the web, is there a real specification apart from http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/ | 23:04 |
nathany | Steren: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-rdfa-syntax-20080620/ | 23:05 |
nathany | i think you need to change href to resource for non-clickable links | 23:05 |
nathany | (ie, anything but <a> tags) | 23:06 |
Steren | yes I think so | 23:06 |
Steren | yes let's use "resource " | 23:09 |
nathany | ok, great | 23:09 |
nathany | thanks for pointing that out | 23:09 |
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jibot | ftobia is the other tech intern at Creative Commons and head of RPI Free Culture | 23:33 |
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