Saturday, 2008-07-12

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jibotBovinity is brilliant and aware of Basement Cat, and iz not afraid.00:49
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jibotparkerhiggins is an undergraduate at NYU and the treasurer of its Free Culture chapter. and approximately 7.5 kDays old03:05
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jibotdavidstrauss is "P" and not "P"03:29
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jibotftobia is the other tech intern at Creative Commons and head of RPI Free Culture04:22
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* davidstrauss is bored04:22
paulproteusdavidstrauss, Add laconi.ca protocol support to Drupal?04:23
davidstrausspaulproteus: i'm not that bored04:23
paulproteusDuly noted./04:23
davidstrausspaulproteus: i hear you're in NYC04:23
paulproteusNot yet; Baltimore for now.04:23
paulproteusNYC in 1 week minus 1 day.04:23
davidstraussi'll be there the week after04:24
paulproteusOh, d'oh.04:24
paulproteusI'll be in Portland for OSCON then.04:24
davidstraussso i've been told04:25
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hdworakpaulproteus: still here?05:02
paulproteushdworak, Yup.05:03
hdworakfirst of all, thanks for taking the time to review05:03
hdworakto resolve the dependency issue, I think you should try: sudo easy_install pyxml05:04
paulproteusYou can fix your buildout dependencies to fix that so I don't need to. (-:05:05
paulproteusHow about you do that? (-:05:05
hdworakgreat05:05
davidstraussdependencies--05:12
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hdworakpaulproteus: is xml.dom available in the standard Python distribution?05:45
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hdworak...05:53
hdworakI can see /Python-2.5.2/Lib/xml/dom/05:55
hdworakhow can I find out which packages I have installed provide what classes?05:56
hdworakor how can I run the code in an enviroment w/o any packages installed? (sandbox)05:57
hdworakmaybe zope.dependencytool05:59
hdworakhttp://docs.python.org/lib/module-xml.dom.html06:12
hdworakok, I think I have managed to get my head around that07:09
hdworakit all comes down to the contents of /usr/lib/python-2.5/site-packages/ and easy-install.pth especially07:09
hdworakas far as I can tell, PyXML is 1) deprecated because it is no longer maintained (for a few years by now), 2) is not required for c14n, because c14n can work w/ the default xml support that comes bundled with Python07:10
hdworakso I can see the following dependencies for the lib: nose, BeautifulSoup, rdflib, pyRdfa; and at least Pylons and Genshi additionally for the validator Web application itself07:12
hdworakpaulproteus: if I'm writing buildout dependencies and I need to use pyRdfa and rdflib, but pyRdfa requires rdflib itself, do I have to write rdflib explicitly or can I just go with pyRdfa?07:30
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hdworakpaulproteus: should I state the nose or setuptools dependency?07:41
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hdworakpaulproteus: I do not know how to add the pyRdfa dependency into buildout, since it is not an egg ( http://dev.w3.org/2004/PythonLib-IH/dist/pyRdfa.tar.gz )08:38
hdworakpaulproteus: I would be grateful for suggestions08:39
hdworakI've just pushed the best I could come up with08:39
hdworakI'll be back in 7 hours08:40
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egghdworak: i am sure that it is not me08:48
egg:)08:48
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jibotjgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay16:59
jgayHelp One Laptop per Child. Digg this and also become a torrent seed  http://digg.com/arts_culture/World_s_largest_free_sounds_collection_CC_BY_v217:00
hdworakamazing17:01
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hdworakpaulproteus: I've found a blog entry that seems to be the answer to my problem17:58
hdworakhttp://rhodesmill.org/brandon/buildout/ "Q: How can I develop against another package’s source code, before it gets packaged up as an egg?"17:58
hdworakthe author says that I should keep a local copy of the software17:59
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jibotjgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay17:59
hdworakif you have a better idea, I'll be happy to implement it17:59
paulproteusFor which module do you want to use this?17:59
hdworakpyRdfa18:00
hdworakhttp://dev.w3.org/2004/PythonLib-IH/dist/pyRdfa.tar.gz18:00
hdworakhello18:00
hdworakgoogle "pyrdfa egg" returns 5 irrelevant results18:00
hdworakwhat do you think of the approach that I'm to take here?18:01
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hdworakthis seems to work18:04
hdworakI've extracted the contents of the aforementioned archive into the libvalidator directory and this has yielded the pyRdfa subdirectory18:05
hdworakthen I changed "develop = ." to "develop = . pyRdfa" in buildout.cfg18:05
hdworakwhen I launched buildout, it has created pyRdfa.egg-info, but I can't really find the .egg18:08
hdworak...18:10
hdworakI've removed those configuration chagnes and pyRdfa from site-packages, nosetests says this library is missing18:12
hdworakunfortunately, that did not help18:12
hdworak(when I added this develop = . pyRdfa and extracted the contents of the pyRdfa.tar.gz)18:13
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jibotBovinity is brilliant and aware of Basement Cat, and iz not afraid.18:15
hdworakwhat is the difference between setup.py and buildout18:16
hdworakit seems that they contain redundant information (dependencies)18:16
hdworakI've always edited the buildout.cfg18:17
hdworaknot setup.py18:17
hdworakI've no idea what to do18:26
hdworakok, somehow pyRdfa*.egg appeared in my eggs subdirectory18:28
hdworak:)18:28
hdworakI might had problems with the downloads in the morning18:29
* hdworak has pushed an update18:31
hdworakplease clone and check :)18:31
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ianwellerhi, is there a specific way one should license works in a tarball?19:47
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egghdworak keeps hilighting me :-)20:04
hdworakwhat a coincidence :)20:05
hdworakI'll try e\gg then20:05
eggno problem :)20:05
paulproteuslol, egg!20:06
hdworakpaulproteus: any chance for some feedback tonight?20:06
hdworak:)20:06
paulproteushdworak, Yes, but later (-:20:06
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jibotrejon is a killer MC from staten island and is the 10th member of the wutang clan and http://www.rejon.org/20:28
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hdworakhttp://tnx.nl/php.html - so true20:36
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is4paulproteus, ping RE: magic pixie dust22:01
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jibotAMathews is a GSoC student working on the joys of SVG filters and an italian pesto addicted guy22:58
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paulproteusis4, ACK23:29
is4So we're starting to work on build SMW structures for our wiki23:29
is4We're having a pretty poorly constructed meeting.23:30
is4Would you like to call in and perhaps direct our efforts?23:30
paulproteusSadly I could.23:30
paulproteusYou have Semantic Forms?23:30
is4Not sure23:31
paulproteusIf you can call me, I'm totally fine with it.23:31
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paulproteus(Who's running this show?)23:31
paulproteus410 516 406323:31
paulproteusMy cell phone somewhat sucks.23:32
paulproteusis4, SYN23:33
paulproteusIf you want me to call, let me know how.23:33
paulproteusis4, ...23:35
is4ACK23:35
is4soryr23:35
is4sorry23:35
is4trying to get a phonenumber23:36
paulproteusI can totally Take Charge and help you. It'd be easiest for me if you call me.23:36
paulproteusBut if not, then I can call in.23:36
is4calling you now23:37
paulproteushttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/Content_Directories23:44
paulproteus  Add/Edit Content Directories23:44
paulproteushttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:AddData/ContentDirectory/Safe_to_try23:45
paulproteusPress Widget23:45
paulproteushttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcTeamspace23:46
paulproteushttp://discoursedb.org/wiki/Special:BrowseData (can talk about this later)23:48
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jibotdavidstrauss is "P" and not "P"23:49
paulproteushttp://code.creativecommons.org/viewsvn/autocurate/\23:51
paulproteushttp://code.creativecommons.org/viewsvn/autocurate/+ http://code.creativecommons.org/svnroot/autocurate/23:51
is4paulproteus, wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Femslade/questions23:52
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