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| Bovinity | nkinkade: zupport delayed to tomorrow? | 00:51 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: Yeah. | 00:52 |
| nkinkade | I'm going to have to do some rewriting of the ccidonor Drupal module. | 00:52 |
| nkinkade | It's not compatible with civicrm 2.0 | 00:53 |
| Bovinity | ah | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | That, and it only works if you have a dot matrix printer attached to the computer. | 00:53 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Is httplib.BadStatusLine an error that you've received before? | 00:53 |
| Bovinity | and a controller in slot 2? | 00:53 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I'm afraid so. | 00:53 |
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| hdworak | paulproteus: http://labs.creativecommons.org/2008/07/08/license-oriented-metadata-validator-and-viewer-libvalidator/ | 12:23 |
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| jibot | nathany is teh preacher of teh gozpl of teh Ceiling Cat and witness to teh menny divine miraclz of Ceiling Cat | 14:30 |
| nathany | paulproteus: SYN | 14:30 |
| paulproteus | nathany, ACK | 14:30 |
| paulproteus | SUP? | 14:30 |
| nathany | can you think of any reason it would be ill advised to up the maximum number of file handles on A8? | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | For some particular process? | 14:31 |
| nathany | it's currently at 203559 and i run out of descriptors when merging lucene indices | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | I mean, why? | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | Got it. | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | Is that a global max, or a per-process max? | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, no. | 14:31 |
| nathany | i was planning to do global since i my kernel-foo is weak | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | Bump it to 5x that and things should be okay. | 14:32 |
| nathany | (er, no "i") | 14:32 |
| nathany | sysctl, right? | 14:32 |
| paulproteus | Still, though, 203K is a bunch of open files. | 14:33 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, sysctl should do it. | 14:33 |
| nathany | right... it does seem like a lot | 14:33 |
| nathany | i figure it's the indexing + everything else running | 14:33 |
| paulproteus | http://support.zeus.com/zws/faqs/2005/09/19/filedescriptors seems useful. | 14:33 |
| paulproteus | Are you sure it's not hitting a per-process limit instead? | 14:33 |
| paulproteus | That seems more likely. | 14:33 |
| nathany | i'm not sure, no | 14:34 |
| paulproteus | What are your symptoms? | 14:34 |
| paulproteus | And where do you read this 203K number? | 14:34 |
| nathany | it barfs with an error that says "java.io.FileNotFoundException: /tmp/hadoop-nathan/mapred/local/index/_1884859414/_1d.frq (Too many open files) | 14:34 |
| nathany | " | 14:34 |
| hdworak | hi! lol video at labs | 14:35 |
| paulproteus | Sounds like per-process to me. | 14:35 |
| nathany | from /proc/sys/fs/... | 14:35 |
| nathany | (not file-nr, the other one) | 14:35 |
| nathany | do you know off the top of your head how to manage that? | 14:35 |
| paulproteus | ulimit | 14:35 |
| paulproteus | As described at the link I gave. | 14:35 |
| nathany | and does that get inherited? | 14:35 |
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| nathany | (ie, if i ulimit the bash script, will the invoked commands get that value?) | 14:35 |
| paulproteus | Yes, I'm pretty sure. | 14:35 |
| nathany | ok, i'll poke around with it | 14:36 |
| nathany | how bad can it be? ;) | 14:36 |
| paulproteus | Try that first. | 14:36 |
| nathany | hdworak: the juggling? thanks :) | 14:36 |
| hdworak | yeah | 14:36 |
| hdworak | like a tv ad | 14:36 |
| paulproteus | nathany, OTOH: | 14:36 |
| paulproteus | Never mind the OTOH | 14:37 |
| paulproteus | On the same hand: | 14:37 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@a8:~$ ulimit -n | 14:37 |
| paulproteus | 1024 | 14:37 |
| paulproteus | So I think 1024 is the per-process default. | 14:37 |
| nathany | yeah | 14:37 |
| nathany | so that makes sense that i might hit that | 14:37 |
| hdworak | mine is 1024, too | 14:37 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, let's leave this 203K nonsense alone for now. | 14:37 |
| nathany | i aggregated/crawled about 37k resources for this, which is an order of magnitude larger than i've done before | 14:37 |
| nathany | btw, why does "man ulimit" say there's no man page? | 14:38 |
| nathany | not even a lame "info" page | 14:38 |
| nathany | oh, it's a bash command? sigh | 14:39 |
| hdworak | nathany: I have info ulimit on Hardy Heron | 14:39 |
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| jibot | mlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons | 14:39 |
| hdworak | nah, it's the default page | 14:40 |
| hdworak | :/ | 14:40 |
| nathany | ah, info, ever so useful ;) | 14:40 |
| hdworak | http://man-wiki.net/index.php/3:ulimit | 14:40 |
| nathany | any ideas on how to actually set that for my user session? | 14:41 |
| nathany | nathan@a8:~$ sudo ulimit -n 2048 | 14:41 |
| nathany | sudo: ulimit: command not found | 14:41 |
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| hdworak | nathany: there is no man page about ulimit, because it is a builtin command, pretty much like there is no manual entry for the "for" command | 14:42 |
| nathany | right | 14:42 |
| hdworak | $ man bash | grep ulimit | 14:42 |
| hdworak | ulimit [-SHacdefilmnpqrstuvx [limit]] | 14:42 |
| nathany | but i'm wondering how i can go about setting that for my user (since running things as root makes me slightly queasy) | 14:43 |
| paulproteus | nathany, /etc/security/limits.conf | 14:43 |
| paulproteus | That will get looked at by PAM at the time your login shell is fork()d. | 14:43 |
| paulproteus | You could reasonably: | 14:44 |
| paulproteus | sudo su - | 14:44 |
| paulproteus | ulimit -n unlimited | 14:44 |
| hdworak | -n The maximum number of open file descriptors (most systems | 14:44 |
| hdworak | do not allow this value to be set) | 14:44 |
| paulproteus | su - nathan | 14:44 |
| nathany | ah | 14:44 |
| nathany | that's weird but workable | 14:44 |
| nathany | thanks guys | 14:44 |
| paulproteus | "weird but workable" is my middle name. | 14:44 |
| nathany | paulproteus: and that's why we love you :) | 14:46 |
| nathany | (trying it now) | 14:46 |
| hdworak | this Pydev for Eclipse SDK ain't bad | 14:47 |
| hdworak | notifies about syntax errors on the fly | 14:48 |
| hdworak | pretty much like NetBeans does with Java | 14:48 |
| nathany | hdworak: yeah, it's come a long way in the past couple years | 14:49 |
| nathany | and i think it integrates with Mylyn these days | 14:49 |
| paulproteus | That's interesting, maybe I'll try it. | 14:52 |
| paulproteus | I just always feared how non-fast Eclipse feels. | 14:52 |
| nathany | the latest release seems better to me; have you tried it hdworak? | 14:52 |
| hdworak | I'm running 3.2.2 here; http://www.imagesduo.com/uploads/9493684WTeDRKM2ubdftfw3cvGdsrgpc99N3f.png | 14:53 |
| hdworak | the one from the Ubuntu package | 14:54 |
| hdworak | so far no problems except for the fact that I could not get (X)HTML syntax highlighting | 14:55 |
| nathany | paulproteus, hdworak: thanks for your help; made it through the indexing with higher ulimit | 14:59 |
| paulproteus | Yay. | 14:59 |
| hdworak | you're welcome | 15:00 |
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| hdworak | paulproteus: I've pushed the code for base URI detection (ported from the previous code); no CURIE support yet | 15:13 |
| hdworak | I know that pyRdfa supports CURIE, on the other hand the base URI detection will be used for the deprecated methods (RDF/XML as an element/comment), so CURIE support should not be a problem | 15:14 |
| hdworak | BTW was embedded RDF/XML ever base URI dependent? or did it always describe absolute URIs? | 15:15 |
| paulproteus | I'm... not sure. | 15:16 |
| hdworak | well, the example from the Wiki ("Extend Metadata") does not | 15:26 |
| hdworak | I've to admit that would look pretty bizarre | 15:26 |
| hdworak | I'm gonna google for an example | 15:27 |
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| jibot | Bovinity is brilliant | 15:29 |
| hdworak | no, actually it was in use | 15:30 |
| hdworak | for instance, http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/download/propaganda/web-buttons/ (check the source code) | 15:30 |
| hdworak | they have about="" | 15:30 |
| hdworak | so the base URI detection I've submitted will in fact be useful | 15:31 |
| hdworak | same here: http://jedi.org/weblog/archives/004608.html (about="") | 15:33 |
| hdworak | contrary to what I thought before, the "RDF" element (rdf:RDF) is optional | 15:36 |
| hdworak | http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar/#section-Syntax-complete-document | 15:36 |
| hdworak | so the old regex won't work: | 15:37 |
| hdworak | <([^:>'"]+:RDF)\s[^>]xmlns(:[^=]+)?\s*=\s*(("http://web\.resource\.org/cc/")|('http://web\.resource\.org/cc/')).*</\1\s*> | 15:37 |
| hdworak | once we translate CDATA to PCDATA it should go like this: | 15:38 |
| hdworak | <([^\s]+)\s+([^>]+\s+)?xmlns(:[^=]+)?\s*=\s*(("http://www\.w3\.org/1999/02/22\-rdf\-syntax\-ns#"|('http://www\.w3\.org/1999/02/22\-rdf\-syntax\-ns#')).*</\1\s*> | 15:42 |
| hdworak | :) | 15:42 |
| hdworak | aside from the first pair of parentheses, the other should be non-capturing ?: | 15:42 |
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| hdworak | then translate all the relative URIs to the absolute URIs | 15:43 |
| hdworak | then parse just like an external RDF/XML linked via <link rel="meta" | 15:44 |
| hdworak | now consider an external file metadata.rdf that has been linked to via <link rel="meta" | 15:45 |
| hdworak | if this RDF/XML file contains statements about="" - does it make any sense? | 15:45 |
| hdworak | in that context, does about="" refer to metadata.rdf or the HTML page that has <link rel="meta" | 15:46 |
| hdworak | nathany, paulproteus | 15:46 |
| nathany | yes? | 15:46 |
| hdworak | last three lines, pls | 15:46 |
| nathany | eww | 15:47 |
| nathany | i don't know | 15:47 |
| nathany | rdf file | 15:47 |
| nathany | (metadata.rdf) | 15:47 |
| nathany | hdworak: ^^ | 15:48 |
| hdworak | ok, I'm asking on #swig then | 15:49 |
| hdworak | thanks | 15:49 |
| nathany | hdworak: no, i do know now :) | 15:50 |
| nathany | it refers to the metadata.rdf file | 15:50 |
| nathany | (i double checked with mlinksva) | 15:50 |
| hdworak | ah ok :) | 15:50 |
| hdworak | via some super secret red alert line | 15:51 |
| hdworak | I've got the same answer as yours from masaka at #swig | 15:52 |
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| nathany | :) | 15:52 |
| hdworak | but we need base URI calculations regardless for external RDF/XML | 15:52 |
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| hdworak | because someone can start describing resources, say, in the same directory | 15:53 |
| hdworak | <Work rdf:about="gnomophone.mp3"> | 15:53 |
| nathany | right | 15:54 |
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| mlinksva | nathany et al, ep is running late | 16:09 |
| nathany | mlinksva: thanks; np | 16:09 |
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| jibot | Steren is sitting next to greg-g and from Nancy | 16:20 |
| greg-g | hey, steren's info is correct today! :) | 16:27 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: know anything about recaptchalib.php? i'm trying to get the SMW deployment up and going from git | 16:34 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Are you getting an error? | 16:35 |
| nkinkade | Or is that file missing? | 16:36 |
| paulproteus | Maybe we didn't push that file back in, nkinkade? | 16:40 |
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| jibot | Bovinity is brilliant | 16:41 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I was just looking at my git clone and I don't see that file anywhere. | 16:41 |
| nkinkade | I'm thinking that we must have made the fix up on a6. | 16:41 |
| nkinkade | (and then I forgot to push it back to the repository) | 16:41 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Certainly possible. | 16:43 |
| paulproteus | My guess all we need is a "git push" in wiki-staging. | 16:43 |
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| tim_hwang | googdocs being wonky for anyone else? | 16:44 |
| paulproteus | Ever since I blocked cookies from Google, it hasn't really worked right. | 16:44 |
| Bovinity | it's down | 16:49 |
| Bovinity | not just for us | 16:49 |
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| paulproteus | The system | 16:55 |
| paulproteus | is down | 16:55 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: I can see the commit where we added recaptchalib.php, and it seems to be pushed, but I don't get the file when I pull from my local clone. | 16:56 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, will look in one sec | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | will return to desk, eat ham and cheese croissant, and live a life beyond writing email | 16:58 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I think it was because I hadn't done a git submodule update | 16:58 |
| paulproteus | Er | 16:58 |
| greg-g | "git is the shit" or "git is shit" ? | 17:06 |
| Bovinity | -the | 17:07 |
| greg-g | Bovinity: thanks | 17:07 |
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| paulproteus | mlinksva, So is that all from EP? (-: | 17:14 |
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| hdworak | greg-g: actually, "the" | 17:17 |
| hdworak | greg-g: you do some work, then 1) git commit -a 2) git push 3) there is no "3" | 17:18 |
| Bovinity | greg-g: i <3 git. | 17:18 |
| greg-g | hdworak: sounds like most dvcs ;) | 17:20 |
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| hdworak | greg-g: before git, I've only used TortoiseCVS, so I do not have any comparison | 17:27 |
| hdworak | greg-g: but I like it as long as I do not have to do something new w/ it | 17:27 |
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| greg-g | hdworak: /me nods | 17:30 |
| hdworak | :) | 17:30 |
| Bovinity | hdworak: hmm, are you on irc over ipv6? | 17:31 |
| greg-g | oh hey, good catch Bovinity | 17:32 |
| hdworak | Bovinity: yes, so is paulproteus | 17:32 |
| Bovinity | nifty | 17:32 |
| hdworak | very easy to set up on Ubuntu | 17:32 |
| Bovinity | yeah, he set up ip6 routing out of the office, i dunno how one encourages xchat to use it | 17:33 |
| hdworak | I do not know about xchat, 'cause I use Pidgin IRC plug-in | 17:33 |
| hdworak | but if try to connect to calkins.freenode.net as the IRC server | 17:33 |
| hdworak | -if | 17:33 |
| Bovinity | hm | 17:33 |
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| Bovinity | fail | 17:34 |
| hdworak | if your system supports IPv6 (try http://ipv6.google.com/ in your browser), you should be able to connect | 17:34 |
| Bovinity | yep, bouncy logo and all | 17:35 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Does CC has some type of Myspace page that I don't know about? | 17:36 |
| hdworak | Bovinity: does the following work too in your firefox: http://[2001:4860:0:1001::68]/ | 17:36 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yes | 17:36 |
| Bovinity | myspace.com/creativecommons i think | 17:36 |
| Bovinity | hdworak: yep. square brackets huh... interesting. | 17:36 |
| nkinkade | That's so illogical. :-) | 17:36 |
| Bovinity | more illogical is that we're a musical artist | 17:37 |
| hdworak | Bovinity: this is the official way to encode IPv6 in a URL | 17:37 |
| hdworak | don't be surprised if it appears in an e-mail address one day | 17:38 |
| hdworak | :D | 17:38 |
| * greg-g learned something new today | 17:39 | |
| hdworak | Bovinity: has your XChat been compiled with --enable-ipv6 ? | 17:39 |
| Bovinity | oh | 17:39 |
| Bovinity | maybe not | 17:39 |
| hdworak | http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?p=13275 | 17:39 |
| Bovinity | i'm using the mac version | 17:40 |
| Bovinity | i wonder if colloquy supports v6 | 17:40 |
| hdworak | I guess this is just the IRC client issue | 17:40 |
| hdworak | because your machine handles IPv6 | 17:40 |
| hdworak | btw creativecommons.org is not IPv6 friendly!!! | 17:41 |
| hdworak | Web 3.0 and no IPv6? a big "no, no" | 17:41 |
| hdworak | nathany: ^^^ | 17:42 |
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| isforinsects | ping paulproteus | 17:54 |
| Bovinity | he's afk | 17:55 |
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| jibot | currybot is currytastic and <3 fair use | 17:56 |
| currybot | jibot: mmm... curry... | 17:56 |
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| Bovinity | mecredis: ping | 18:01 |
| ftobia | currybot: list | 18:05 |
| currybot | (1) ALOO GAJJAR (Fresh carrots and russets cooked in a roasted cumin and tomato curry) | 18:05 |
| currybot | (2) RAJ TARKARI (Several fresh Vegetables cooked with aromatic star anise and nutmeg flavor) | 18:05 |
| currybot | (3) MURGA DAHIWALA (Boneless chicken cubes cooked red onions, tomatoes, and yogurt) | 18:05 |
| currybot | (4) SRI LANKAN COCONUT PORK CURRY- (HOUSE SPECIAL) | 18:05 |
| ftobia | currybot: 1 | 18:05 |
| currybot | ALOO GAJJAR (Fresh carrots and russets cooked in a roasted cumin and tomato curry) This is an all time delicacy dish. This dish is prepared with fresh carrot and russets with vine ripped tomatoes, garlic, ginger, red onions and royal cumin. | 18:05 |
| currybot | $5.00 | 18:05 |
| Bovinity | i wish google analytics would tell me which versions of browsers people are using | 18:06 |
| Bovinity | and the dimensions of hte windows | 18:06 |
| greg-g | IE4, 640x400 | 18:06 |
| Bovinity | nice | 18:06 |
| Steren | subway: list | 18:06 |
| Bovinity | on your mom's windows 95 desktop? | 18:07 |
| greg-g | Bovinity: my mom's? you mean MINE? | 18:07 |
| ftobia | currybot: 2 | 18:07 |
| currybot | RAJ TARKARI (Several fresh Vegetables cooked with aromatic star anise and nutmeg flavor) Cardamom is used mainly in the preparation of Aryuvedic medicines relating to bad breath and mouth odour. The master chefs of royal era consider cardamom an exotic spice. The vegetables like red creamer, eggplants, mushrooms, cauliflower, carrots, and bell peppers are prepared with seasoning of nutmeg powder and low sodium rock salt, cooked in | 18:07 |
| currybot | $5.00 | 18:07 |
| greg-g | cooked in what? | 18:09 |
| Bovinity | oh, found the browser version breakdowns | 18:09 |
| Bovinity | some clown is using IE 999.1 | 18:09 |
| greg-g | currybot: what is numnber 2 cooked in? | 18:09 |
| currybot | greg-g: mmm... curry... | 18:09 |
| greg-g | oh, curry, good | 18:10 |
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| jibot | brianrowe is at Seattle University School of Law, class of 2009 and legal intern at CC | 18:12 |
| Steren | nathany: I have real problems with my actual work : I successfuly add the edit time data as a semantice data, the problem is if I decide to store it in special properties, these can't be querried because of the actual SMW property system. | 18:27 |
| Steren | It works if I store it in normal properties. | 18:27 |
| Steren | The dev team intend to rewrite the property system soon, but this represents major changes for SMW, I'm not sure I can work on this | 18:27 |
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| ftobia | Steren: SMW-- | 18:40 |
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| jibot | mattl is Matt Lee, British comedy boy, GNU Project Chief Webmaster, founder of CNUK.ORG and occasional mischief maker. He hates bots. | 18:46 |
| mattl | hellooo. | 18:46 |
| mattl | looking for a CC-BY image that shows how MS and Apple don't want you to modify their software. | 18:47 |
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| nathany | currybot: list | 18:55 |
| currybot | (1) ALOO GAJJAR (Fresh carrots and russets cooked in a roasted cumin and tomato curry) | 18:55 |
| currybot | (2) RAJ TARKARI (Several fresh Vegetables cooked with aromatic star anise and nutmeg flavor) | 18:55 |
| currybot | (3) MURGA DAHIWALA (Boneless chicken cubes cooked red onions, tomatoes, and yogurt) | 18:55 |
| currybot | (4) SRI LANKAN COCONUT PORK CURRY- (HOUSE SPECIAL) | 18:55 |
| nathany | currybot: 1 | 18:55 |
| currybot | ALOO GAJJAR (Fresh carrots and russets cooked in a roasted cumin and tomato curry) This is an all time delicacy dish. This dish is prepared with fresh carrot and russets with vine ripped tomatoes, garlic, ginger, red onions and royal cumin. | 18:55 |
| currybot | $5.00 | 18:55 |
| nathany | currybot: 3 | 18:55 |
| currybot | MURGA DAHIWALA (Boneless chicken cubes cooked red onions, tomatoes, and yogurt) This dish comes from Northern Part of India. The boneless chicken pieces are marinated overnight in plain yogurt with a little rock salt. The base is prepared in red onions, tomatoes, ginger, garlic, cumin, and cardamom turmeric. The marinated chicken is added to it along with the marinade and cooked. . | 18:55 |
| currybot | $ 5.00 | 18:55 |
| Bovinity | lots of marinating | 18:55 |
| greg-g | currybot: 2 | 18:56 |
| currybot | RAJ TARKARI (Several fresh Vegetables cooked with aromatic star anise and nutmeg flavor) Cardamom is used mainly in the preparation of Aryuvedic medicines relating to bad breath and mouth odour. The master chefs of royal era consider cardamom an exotic spice. The vegetables like red creamer, eggplants, mushrooms, cauliflower, carrots, and bell peppers are prepared with seasoning of nutmeg powder and low sodium rock salt, cooked in | 18:56 |
| currybot | $5.00 | 18:56 |
| greg-g | ftobia: currybot doesn't know what number 2 is cooked in. | 18:56 |
| ftobia | yeah i know. | 18:56 |
| ftobia | definitely file a bug report. | 18:56 |
| greg-g | /msg ftobia Bug Report #248: currybot does not know what number 2 (on June 8, 2008) is cooked in | 18:57 |
| paulproteus | currybot, reportbug | 18:57 |
| currybot | paulproteus: mmm... curry... | 18:57 |
| ftobia | that's not a bad idea. currybot as a currybot bug reporting system. | 19:02 |
| ftobia | unless it is. | 19:02 |
| ftobia | also: is it currytime yet? | 19:02 |
| greg-g | currytime? | 19:04 |
| mattl | you guys really need a channel for like... office communications ;) | 19:04 |
| mecredis | you mean curry channel? like #cc? | 19:05 |
| mlinksva | currybot: 1 | 19:05 |
| currybot | ALOO GAJJAR (Fresh carrots and russets cooked in a roasted cumin and tomato curry) This is an all time delicacy dish. This dish is prepared with fresh carrot and russets with vine ripped tomatoes, garlic, ginger, red onions and royal cumin. | 19:05 |
| currybot | $5.00 | 19:05 |
| mlinksva | currybot: 2 | 19:05 |
| currybot | RAJ TARKARI (Several fresh Vegetables cooked with aromatic star anise and nutmeg flavor) Cardamom is used mainly in the preparation of Aryuvedic medicines relating to bad breath and mouth odour. The master chefs of royal era consider cardamom an exotic spice. The vegetables like red creamer, eggplants, mushrooms, cauliflower, carrots, and bell peppers are prepared with seasoning of nutmeg powder and low sodium rock salt, cooked in | 19:05 |
| currybot | $5.00 | 19:05 |
| greg-g | mecredis++ | 19:05 |
| mattl | mecredis: no, like ##cc ;) | 19:06 |
| mecredis | alright, I'll see you in there | 19:06 |
| mattl | i don't work for cc. | 19:06 |
| mecredis | OH right | 19:06 |
| mattl | we use #fsf-campaigns for our campaigns staff, for example. | 19:07 |
| mecredis | naturally | 19:07 |
| mattl | and it's locked out to the public. | 19:07 |
| mecredis | naturally | 19:07 |
| mattl | but #fsf is for the public discussion around FSF work. | 19:07 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: we have a request for another cheap food place, other than curry | 19:08 |
| mecredis | that sounds like blasphemy to me | 19:08 |
| ftobia | very nearly. | 19:09 |
| DanL- | why is there a currybot? | 19:09 |
| DanL- | Beyond the metaphysical aspectsofthat question | 19:09 |
| Bovinity | dissent in the ranks! | 19:09 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, You could do quicheland. | 19:09 |
| Bovinity | mm, quiche. | 19:10 |
| paulproteus | It's like what, six bucks for quiche and salad? | 19:10 |
| greg-g | hrmmmmm | 19:10 |
| Bovinity | yeah | 19:10 |
| greg-g | Steren: ^ | 19:10 |
| paulproteus | http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-snack-depot-san-francisco | 19:10 |
| paulproteus | http://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-dolci-san-francisco for Vietnamese Sandwiches | 19:11 |
| Bovinity | well i'm getting quiche. | 19:11 |
| Steren | Bovinity: let's try quiche | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | I suggest Cafe Dolci. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | But I'll be eating away from y'all. | 19:12 |
| greg-g | everyone on the quiche train, lets go! | 19:12 |
| DanL- | real men do not eat quiche | 19:12 |
| mecredis | watch your language | 19:21 |
| DanL- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Men_Don%27t_Eat_Quiche | 19:22 |
| DanL- | wikipedia agrees | 19:22 |
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| jibot | davidstrauss is "P" and not "P" | 19:37 |
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| Bovinity | my quiche was full of bacon. | 19:51 |
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| nathany | Bovinity: My God! It's Full of Bacon! | 19:55 |
| Bovinity | my friend showed me bacon cookies last night. chocolate and bacon. | 19:56 |
| nathany | omg | 19:56 |
| Bovinity | i didn't know what to think. | 19:56 |
| Bovinity | i wonder if i still have the url... | 19:56 |
| Bovinity | http://neverbashfulwithbutter.com/food/2008/03/01/experiments-in-deliciousness-bacon-chocolate-chip-cookies-with-maple-cinnamon-glaze/ | 19:56 |
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| hdworak | not a vegetarian dish, that's for sure | 19:59 |
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| DanL- | FRED | 20:06 |
| DanL- | we are "Wikia Search" | 20:06 |
| DanL- | not "Search Wikia" | 20:06 |
| DanL- | kthnxbai | 20:06 |
| DanL- | :) | 20:06 |
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| nathany | Search Wikia! Search Wikia! | 20:09 |
| DanL- | Nooooooooooooooooooooo | 20:10 |
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| ftobia | nathany: can i use xpath (lxml.etree) as an alternative way to get information out of the rdf files, or is there some good reason for not doing it this way? | 20:14 |
| nathany | ftobia: no, you can't | 20:14 |
| ftobia | boo | 20:14 |
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| nathany | it's a classic mistake but it makes assumptions that may not really be true | 20:14 |
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| ftobia | interesting. | 20:15 |
| nathany | (namespaces being the most common assumption that gets overlooked... but also xpath assumes your XML has a certain structure | 20:15 |
| nathany | you can have many many different layouts and get the exact same assertions out of them with RDF | 20:16 |
| nathany | (it's a graph, not a tree) | 20:16 |
| hdworak | ftobia: you really need to analyse triples, not RDF/XML; triples can be stored in Notation 3, for example | 20:18 |
| hdworak | and XPath won't apply here | 20:19 |
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| mecredis | DanL-: Oops! | 20:42 |
| mecredis | Will fix it in the places where I can | 20:42 |
| mecredis | cool, fixed blog, upcoming and facebook | 20:44 |
| mecredis | apologies | 20:45 |
| greg-g | and my blog post, too :) | 20:53 |
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| hdworak | ftobia: http://rx4rdf.liminalzone.org/ | 21:20 |
| hdworak | RxPath is a specification and reference implementation for querying, transforming and updating RDF by specifying a deterministic mapping of the RDF model to the XML data model defined by XPath. Rx4RDF shields developers from the complexity of RDF by enabling you to use familar XML technologies like XPath, XSLT, XUpdate, and Schematron. We call their RDF equivalents RxPath, RxSLT, and RxUpdate respectively. | 21:20 |
| DanL- | ty fred :) | 21:23 |
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| jibot | mattl is Matt Lee, British comedy boy, GNU Project Chief Webmaster, founder of CNUK.ORG and occasional mischief maker. He hates bots. | 21:42 |
| mattl | what's the license on the CC deed icons? | 21:42 |
| mattl | oh, i found it. | 21:43 |
| mattl | paulproteus: pin | 21:48 |
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| jibot | davidstrauss is "P" and not "P" | 21:50 |
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| hdworak | ok, I can see that Redland (librdf) handles base URIs when parsing RDF/XML | 22:08 |
| hdworak | combined with the base URI detection we already have in the repo, it seems that it forms a complete picture | 22:09 |
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| Steren | nathany: by the way, from the beginning, I keep updated a "Work Log" on my user page http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/User:Steren_Giannini | 22:39 |
| nathany | Steren: great, thanks | 22:39 |
| paulproteus | mattl, pon? | 22:40 |
| Steren | nathany: and I made a bugfix for semantic tasks, it now works with last SVN | 22:42 |
| nathany | awesome! | 22:42 |
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| greg-g | I'm out, catch ya'll later | 23:12 |
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| Steren | nkinkade: you said it's necessary to compile po files to update the translations ? | 23:44 |
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| nkinkade | Steren: It's a little more involved than that, unfortunately. | 23:47 |
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| nkinkade | And this is why we'll all be really really happy when Asheesh finishes Herder and especially if ftobia is able to make big progress on cc.license. | 23:47 |
| nkinkade | At the moment, the process involves committing changes to the PO file to SVN, then svn up-ing your checkout of cc.engine, then running "./bin/buildout install i18n", then committing those changes, then svn up-ing cc.engine on staging, etc. | 23:49 |
| nkinkade | I might be missing a step in there. | 23:49 |
| nkinkade | Steren: It'll be best if you just try to translate virtually everything, and then we'll do the update a single time. | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | Or as little as possible. | 23:50 |
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| Steren | right, because some strings are already translated and they don't appera so on the website | 23:50 |
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| Steren | I'll tell you when the entire page will be translated | 23:51 |
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