Tuesday, 2008-06-17

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rrjanbiah_ccIs there anyway to implement the CC API offline..  I mean without having to contact the cc website/webservice.... or is there any possibility to implement it with any data dump from cc or so?05:32
rrjanbiah_ccanyone?05:42
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rrjanbiah_ccIs there anyway to implement the CC API offline..  I mean without having to contact the cc website/webservice.... or is there any possibility to implement it with any data dump from cc or so?05:44
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paulproteusrrjanbiah_cc, Sure06:31
paulproteusrrjanbiah_cc, What is your app like?  Language, platform, etc?06:31
paulproteusrrjanbiah_cc, If I don't answer, email asheesh at creativecommons.org (that's me)06:33
paulproteusAnd check out the wiki page for liblicense - wiki.creativecommons.org/liblicense06:34
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rrjanbiah_ccsure.. thanks...06:34
rrjanbiah_ccit's in PHP.. but we don't want to send frequent requests to CC server... and wanted to have the license details in our local app06:35
rrjanbiah_ccIf I'm not mistaken, liblicense is requesting from cc webservice(??)06:36
paulproteusNo, liblicense uses a local set of RDF files.06:38
paulproteusThere are no PHP bindings for it yet.06:38
paulproteusDo you know about the Js Widget?06:38
rrjanbiah_ccoh thanks....06:38
paulproteushttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/Jswidget06:39
rrjanbiah_ccYes, I used in some project... but it was also connecting to cc06:39
paulproteusIt *also* is intended to be used in a way that makes frequent requests to the CC servers, but on the client side only.06:39
paulproteusNot from your servers, only from the client's web browser.06:39
rrjanbiah_ccyes... but, if cc site is down or taking time, we loose our customers:)06:39
paulproteusWe like things this way because as new jurisdictions launch and as we get more translations , we want to make sure people who integrate CC licensing are up to date.06:40
rrjanbiah_ccanyway, thanks for your comments and help.. I'll check the things you provided and will ping you on any necessity:)06:40
paulproteusSure - the code is open source - so you can actually run the API (sort of a pain) or the JsWidget (not *too* hard) yourself.06:40
paulproteusJust run a cron job to "svn update" from time to time. (-:06:40
rrjanbiah_ccyes ok..06:40
rrjanbiah_ccif you have more power...06:41
paulproteus?06:41
rrjanbiah_ccplease try to consider the option for providing dumps06:41
rrjanbiah_ccI mean, sql dump for liceenses06:41
paulproteusOh, we don't actually use SQL for it.06:41
paulproteusBut a static set of files that are the JsWidget would probably be a good way to do it.06:41
rrjanbiah_ccoh, then fine.. will explore RDF06:41
rrjanbiah_ccthanks06:42
paulproteusrrjanbiah_cc, Can you email webmaster at creativecommons.org saying I sent you and asking for this?06:42
rrjanbiah_ccSure, will do that06:43
paulproteusBut I think the best thing for you will be a local JsWidget install.06:43
rrjanbiah_ccsure.. thanks06:43
paulproteusrrjanbiah_cc, Oh, one more thing you could do actually.06:48
paulproteusStart by using the API, and then cache all the answers to the queries you expect to send.06:48
rrjanbiah_ccyes, that gonna be cumbersome:)  BTW, are you in India?06:54
paulproteusNo, I'm in San Francisco, CA, USA, usually.06:56
paulproteusThough I was born in New Delhi. (-:06:56
rrjanbiah_ccoh nice to know that:) Incidentally, I'm in Chennai and that's why asked06:56
paulproteusCool (-:06:57
rrjanbiah_cc:)06:57
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red_tyohello anybody09:25
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bovinityCoffee is brewing!11:41
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* mecredis_x60s watches the mozilla server go down in flames12:02
CharelBo012:02
CharelBit isn't so hot12:02
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CharelBis jamendo a project of cc or the project released under the cc license?12:08
ajbrooksreleased under cc12:10
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CharelBkk12:26
CharelBthanks for information12:26
Sterennkinkade: strange, the Form:Task on TeamSpace is broken (try to edit a Task with a form).12:31
nkinkadeSteren: Let me see, but I have a feeling that nathany will have a faster solution than I could find.12:31
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nathanynkinkade: i can look in a second12:32
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greg-gSteren/ nathany : I can confirm12:39
SterenI didn't touch anything, promise :)12:40
nathanySteren: it was probably an upgrade we just did... (i'm guessing)12:40
nathanylooking now12:40
nathanySteren: nkinkade: greg-g: should be fixed now12:41
* greg-g nods12:43
Sterenyep12:45
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nkinkadebovinity: Do we have SVG versions of the CC-GPL icons?13:09
bovinitynkinkade: no13:09
nathanygreg-g: also, you guys should probably make a post first thing in the morning pointing to the tech blog for live blogging13:17
greg-gnathany: right right13:19
nathany:)13:19
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nkinkadenathany: http://www.library.yale.edu/wsg/docs/permissions/14:47
nkinkade"Keep in mind that if you give someone write permission to a directory, they can delete any file in the directory, even if they don't have permission to write or read that specific file."14:48
nkinkadeFor some reason that surprised me, even though now that see it I guess I had read that.14:48
jgayHey, help stop the Canadian DMCA, and maybe digg this story: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Stop_Canada_from_passing_US_style_restrictions_on_technology14:49
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jgayI forgot to mention if you hate canada, you can bury the story, too!14:55
jgayIt's fun for the whole family14:55
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nathanynkinkade: does that explain the difference between running as a cron job or not?15:01
nkinkadenathany: Not precisely.  Running the job as the regular user in a normal shell brings up a prompt about whether you want to *really* delete such and such write protected file, but apparently that warning is bypassed in cron's context.15:03
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nathanyah, got it15:04
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ftobiapaulproteus: does it make more sense for me to branch off of trunk or the sanity branch, for work on the test suite? i chose sanity, and i'm not sure if this was the right decision.17:56
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bovinitynkinkade: any reason i should only get ssh timeouts when using svnmerge, but not for regular ssh operations?17:59
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nkinkadebovinity: Not that I know of.  I do know that our Internet connection is here is really slow since the interns arrive.18:01
nkinkade-d.18:01
nkinkadeI think we are pushing the limits of our DSL.18:01
bovinityit's been happening pre-interns18:01
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nkinkadeHmm.  I used svnmerge just a couple hours ago and had no problems.  Is it consistent or intermittent?18:02
bovinityfairly consistent.18:02
bovinitybut it occurs to me to check my version against one on a6, i may have a wonky copy18:02
nkinkadeWhat sort of ping response times do you get to code.(cc).org, out of curiosity?18:03
bovinity87ms ave18:03
bovinityssh in is fine, other svn operations are fine18:03
nkinkadeThat's reasonable.  Check what, you public key?18:03
bovinityits only svnmerge that gives me grief18:03
nkinkadeStrange.18:03
bovinityi can even merge by hand just fine18:03
nkinkadeI guess you could launch wireshark as a last resort.18:03
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bovinityi love how the current stable version of svnmerge deletes the properties before running its actions... thus when ssh fails, the checkout is hosed18:41
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nkinkadebovinity: I ran into that earlier today.19:00
bovinitylearn map is live!19:00
Sterennkinkade: How do you "push" with git ?19:01
nkinkadeRan an svn ci without first doing an svn up, so the svnmerge-integrated property for "." got screwed.19:01
nkinkadeSteren: git push19:01
nkinkade:-)19:01
bovinitytrick question?19:01
nkinkadeBut you may first have to commit to your local copy.19:01
SterenI commited to my local, but after a push :19:01
Sterenfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly19:01
nkinkadeSteren: What does $ cat .git/config  show you?19:03
nkinkadeIs it possible that you've got a read-only copy of that git repository?19:04
nkinkadeFor [remote "origin"] you want a url like : git@code.creativecommons.org:<something>.git19:04
nkinkadeIf it has git:// then you may not have the right clone.19:05
Sterenoh ok, I just pulled from git://...19:06
nkinkadeOkay, that was probably the problem.  Take a look at this page http://code.creativecommons.org19:07
nkinkadeThere is a diff. URL for read-write access.19:07
nkinkadeIf your public key is working then you should be able to clone the same repository, but with the r/w URL19:07
bovinityyou should be able to just alter the remote url in .git/config19:07
nkinkadeThat could be, too.  I'm not sure about that.  Give it a try.19:08
bovinitymay need a pull or rebase19:08
Sterenyes, taht was what I figured out the first day, but I had forgotten19:08
Sterenalright, my push seams to have worked19:10
Sterenyes, it did. Good, Thanks!19:11
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