Saturday, 2008-05-31

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broonsparrowhi I have a questions regarding CC license for recorded music.06:08
broonsparrowWhen you relaese a track under a CC license is it the song or the recording or both that you're licensing?06:09
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hdworakhi07:48
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eugmanI tried to ask in olpc help but no luck. I'm interested in using samples from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sound_samples but I'm not sure who I have to attribute to fufill the cc-by requirements.09:22
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hdworakhi. are the SSH keys valid for a particular username or just a machine?14:28
hdworakI've seen there is my login within the key14:55
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paulproteushdworak, A username.15:41
paulproteusWell...15:41
paulproteusBasically, can you re-ask your question?15:41
hdworakno need, I understand15:43
hdworakok, I've been chatting with the guys from #python-genshi15:43
hdworakthe software does not support XHTML 1.115:43
hdworakthe best we can do with it is XHTML 1.0 Strict with graceful degradation to HTML 4.01 Strict15:44
paulproteusXHTML 1.0 strict is fine.15:48
hdworakk15:48
paulproteushdworak, I'll join you there so I can learn what you're learning. (-:15:49
hdworakyes, I know15:50
hdworakI don't know if you read what I wrote yesterday15:50
hdworakpylons+genshi are no lovers15:50
paulproteusAbout the performance discussion?15:50
hdworaknah, that was stupid15:51
paulproteusOkay (-:15:51
paulproteusIf you want to use 0.9.7 that's okay with me.15:51
hdworakjust some random blogger benchmarking15:51
hdworakyeah, but so far I'm using the one from a package15:51
hdworakwhich is stable15:51
paulproteusSure, whatever works.  I'm not particularly interested in your choice of 0.9.6.1 vs. 0.9.7.15:51
paulproteusBTW I fixed the w2 -> w3 in http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/GenshiRecipes/PylonsWithGenshi15:52
paulproteusOr wherever that typo was.15:52
paulproteusOr you can use XHTML 1.1 (-;15:52
paulproteusBut they're right, it is a dead end; stick to XHTML 1.0 I'd say.15:52
hdworakyou fixed?15:53
paulproteusWell, XHTML 1.1 seems to be 1.0 just without some of the lame tags.15:53
hdworakare you their dev?15:53
* paulproteus shrugs15:53
paulproteusI just fixed the typo in their wiki.'15:53
paulproteusThe Pylons dev wiki, not the Genshi one.15:53
hdworakwell, with a regular account?15:53
paulproteusYa.15:53
hdworakI didn't bother to register; just wrote them on their chan15:54
hdworakthanks15:54
hdworaknah, XHTML 1.1 is about modularity15:54
hdworakso you can pick just a subset, like no tables+no forms15:54
hdworakplus you get Ruby support (not the programming language)15:54
* paulproteus nods15:54
paulproteusThe HTML ruby feature is pretty strange.15:55
hdworakplus you're using the latest official w3c recommendation15:55
paulproteusSure, but there's WHATWG to contend with these days.15:55
hdworakwell, it requires the firefox extension15:55
paulproteusHave you read http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/08/23/overton-window ?15:55
hdworakif you want to see XHTML 1.1 Ruby module working15:55
hdworakhad a quick look now15:57
hdworakfor me W3C was always the ultimate authority when it comes to the Web15:57
hdworakand I like them focusing on Web 3.0 instead of blogging about Web 2.015:57
hdworakthey're light years ahead15:57
paulproteus(-:15:58
paulproteusI have to get going for now.15:58
hdworakif ppl think that the next Web is adding <section> instead of <h1> to HTML 5 then gg (good game)15:58
hdworakok, c'ya15:58
paulproteusI have no strong opinion on your use of XHTML 1.0 vs XHTML 1.1.15:58
paulproteusIt's worth noting that for all the bad support XHTML 1.0 has in deployed browsers, XHTML 1.1 has practically none.15:58
hdworakwell, that guy on their chan15:58
hdworakjust notified me that he commited a resolution15:59
paulproteusBut as a standard to hold yourself to, I can see the value of picking XHTML 1.1.15:59
paulproteusI saw that commit in the channel, too.15:59
hdworakbut I'll stick to XHTML 1.0 Strict15:59
hdworakwow15:59
hdworakyou're everywhere15:59
paulproteus<paulproteus> hdworak, I'll join you there so I can learn what you're learning. (-:15:59
hdworakwell15:59
paulproteusIt would be nice to be aware of everything. (-:15:59
hdworakafter a few hours I managed to produce an XHTML 1.1 code15:59
hdworakvia Pylons+Genshi15:59
hdworakbut then I have no graceful degradation16:00
hdworakto HTML 4.01 Strict, like XHTML 1.0 Strict does16:00
hdworakso it's almost like I was doing plain text16:00
* paulproteus nods and vanishes.16:00
hdworaknot worth a shot16:00
hdworak...16:00
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hdworakpaulproteus: ok, I've managed to create the dummy input->output application in Pylons+Genshi18:59
hdworakbut I'm working on a different username (on the same machine - I've created a new account), so I can't commit tonight19:00
hdworakhttp://www.imagesduo.com/uploads/606558WTAwcQ43R8tsXM9cWZgDw67J0Bj3GwW.png19:00
hdworakat least we have some progress19:01
hdworak:)19:01
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