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| oninoshiko | can people add additional restrictions to a CC license, and still call it the CC that it derrives from? | 00:34 |
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| isforinsects | oninoshiko, not likely, unless it involved attribution. | 01:10 |
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| oninoshiko | I ask because there was a complaint that truned up in one of the blender channels taht this is happining all the time with models. | 01:22 |
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| isforinsects | oninoshiko, oh? | 01:46 |
| isforinsects | oninoshiko, what's the issue exactly. | 01:46 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Can cc.engine take some argument like "reload"? I'm going to start rotating the logs and am not sure if it needs a hard restart to start writing to a new inode or some softer method. | 14:09 |
| nkinkade | I guess I could also use the copytruncate option of logrotate. | 14:09 |
| nathany | it can take restart | 14:09 |
| nathany | not sure | 14:09 |
| nkinkade | Does it write a pid file anywhere by chance? | 14:11 |
| nathany | nkinkade: uh, i think so, but i haven't looked @ it lately to be able to say for certain | 14:12 |
| nathany | take a look @ buildout.cfg | 14:12 |
| nathany | it contains the paths for logging, init scripts, etc | 14:13 |
| nkinkade | No big deal I suppose. A restart will probably be just fine. It could possibly fail stopping a non-running process, but it shoudl still start the thing up. | 14:13 |
| hdworak | hi | 14:13 |
| ankitg | hdworak: hi | 14:15 |
| hdworak | :) | 14:16 |
| hdworak | how's it going? | 14:16 |
| ankitg | still looking for a simple and easy solution get a local copy of the S3 data ... | 14:18 |
| hdworak | Amazon ones? | 14:21 |
| ankitg | yep | 14:21 |
| ankitg | I am trying diff tools | 14:22 |
| hdworak | http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007641.html | 14:22 |
| hdworak | I dunno if backup has anything to do with that | 14:22 |
| ankitg | I found one with a GUI interface, but it showed nothing in the bucket | 14:22 |
| ankitg | hdworak: thanks ... that's the list I am trying tools from :) | 14:25 |
| hdworak | ok | 14:25 |
| ankitg | how's it going for you? | 14:27 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: "CherryPy was chosen because it provides a convenient level of abstraction over raw CGI or WSGI development, but is less ambitious than full-stack web frameworks such as Pylons or Django, which tend to come with a preferred templating language, and often show significant bias towards that language." [http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/GenshiTutorial#Introduction] | 14:28 |
| hdworak | fine, thanks; just got back from my girlfriend | 14:28 |
| hdworak | 's place | 14:29 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: you were complaining about Smarty's crash course, but Genshi tutorial in pylons cookbook ain't perfect, too :) | 14:30 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: xmlns:xi="http://www.w2.org/2001/XInclude" (w2 instead of w3) at "Site template (site.html)" [http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscookbook/Genshi+templates] | 14:30 |
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| hdworak | http://chrismoos.com/2008/01/27/genshi-vs-mako/ [especially http://www.tech9computers.com/benchmark.png] | 15:03 |
| hdworak | also note the comment | 15:04 |
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| jocke | Hmm, the HTML code for the license is not valid HTML. | 15:40 |
| jocke | How to fix? | 15:40 |
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| nathany | jocke: you can remove the extra attributes if you want | 15:52 |
| nathany | or if your site is valid XHTML you can make it validate | 15:52 |
| nathany | (let me find the URL) | 15:52 |
| jocke | nathany, I don't have it up but I can show you the code | 15:52 |
| nathany | the metadata in the CC license info is using RDFa | 15:52 |
| nathany | see http://rdfa.info/wiki/How-to-validate for information on how to make that validate | 15:53 |
| jocke | http://forum.creativecommons.org/topic/7 | 15:53 |
| jocke | okay | 15:53 |
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| nathany | if your site isn't valid XHTML already then you may want to remove the extra metadata | 15:53 |
| nathany | I'll respond to your forum post in a bit | 15:53 |
| jocke | nathany, but the thing is that I do not want to remove that. | 15:54 |
| nathany | right, we don't want you to either :) | 15:54 |
| jocke | aha hmm good site | 15:55 |
| jocke | i will see | 15:55 |
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| jocke | nathany, it worked! Thanks, man! | 15:57 |
| jocke | IRC is so great. | 15:58 |
| nathany | cool :) | 15:58 |
| jocke | You get so much help so fast. | 15:58 |
| hdworak | what variant of XHTML is that? | 15:59 |
| hdworak | XHTML+RDFa 1.0 ? | 15:59 |
| hdworak | 1.1 ? | 15:59 |
| nathany | 1.0 | 16:00 |
| nathany | http://rdfa.info/wiki/How-to-validate | 16:00 |
| nathany | hdworak: ^^ | 16:00 |
| hdworak | sorry, I just had a quick look | 16:00 |
| jocke | Nathan Yergler, CTO yeah | 16:01 |
| jocke | hehe | 16:01 |
| jocke | cool | 16:01 |
| nathany | :) | 16:01 |
| nathany | ls | 16:01 |
| nathany | (oops) | 16:01 |
| jocke | yeah GNU/Linux | 16:03 |
| jocke | hehe | 16:03 |
| jocke | maybe | 16:03 |
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| jocke | It is nice that CC seems to be pro-file sharing. | 16:21 |
| jocke | I mean, there is no license which says you can't share the work with others. | 16:21 |
| jocke | no anti-piracy BS | 16:21 |
| hdworak | hey, ain't that's what copyleft is all about? | 16:22 |
| hdworak | "When you lose control and you got no soul/It's tragedy" | 16:23 |
| jocke | :-) | 16:31 |
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| jocke | What does it mean that rdfa is just proposed? shouldn't I use it? | 16:53 |
| hdworak | when I asked whether it's a proposal, they vehemently denied | 16:54 |
| isforinsects | rfda? | 16:55 |
| isforinsects | link? | 16:55 |
| hdworak | rdfa | 16:57 |
| hdworak | try rdfa.info | 16:57 |
| isforinsects | aah | 16:58 |
| hdworak | it's a technique extending the base attributes set instead of using a namespace | 16:58 |
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| nkinkade | The W3C validator now also supports an XHTML+RDFa DTD. | 17:47 |
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| hdworak | right, but why not using a namespace? | 18:01 |
| hdworak | :) | 18:02 |
| hdworak | I've been just chatting with Genshi developer | 18:04 |
| hdworak | he said they Genshi doesn't support XHTML 1.1 | 18:05 |
| hdworak | they consider it a "dead end" | 18:05 |
| hdworak | plus the pylons+genshi tutorial doesn't really work | 18:05 |
| hdworak | one guy on #python-genshi strongly recommends 0.9.7 (for Genshi support) which is not stable as yet (0.9.6.1 is the latest) | 18:06 |
| hdworak | it seems there's not much cooperation between pylons and genshi as projects | 18:09 |
| hdworak | ok, I see that "property" and "about" attributes are about to be added in XHTML 2.0 so that makes sense | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | hdworak: What do you mean about RDFa not using a namespace? | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | There is no RDFa namespace, but instead RDFa makes use of any namespace you would like to use to markup certain information. | 18:58 |
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| hdworak | that property and about were not a qualified name with a prefix | 19:05 |
| hdworak | but were in default namespace | 19:05 |
| hdworak | which adds extra attributes to the standard XHTML namespace | 19:06 |
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