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| Bovinity | nathany: 0.5 cups of coffee remain, fyi. | 11:54 |
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| nathany | Bovinity: thanks; we may have to make more... it's another one of those days | 11:54 |
| * Bovinity nods | 11:54 | |
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| paulproteus | nathany, So weren't you, like, going to be out of office for SemTech? | 12:22 |
| nathany | paulproteus: work intervened :) | 12:22 |
| nathany | i'll be there tomorrow | 12:22 |
| paulproteus | Mmm! (-: | 12:22 |
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| ajbrooks | anyone see the new olpc? | 12:38 |
| ajbrooks | http://www.xconomy.com/2008/05/20/negroponte-unveils-2nd-generation-olpc-laptop-its-an-e-book/ | 12:38 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, I don't see how an eBook reader can promote interactive bottom-up constructionist learning yet. | 12:41 |
| paulproteus | So I'm waiting to hear more. | 12:41 |
| Bovinity | dual touch screens at $75? | 12:41 |
| Bovinity | i dont think i want what he's smoking. | 12:41 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Can we postpone stand-up until post-lunch? | 12:42 |
| nathany | paulproteus: yes | 12:42 |
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| ankitg | paulproteus ... ping | 12:49 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, pong | 12:49 |
| ankitg | wow low latency! :) | 12:50 |
| ankitg | hi | 12:50 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 12:50 |
| ankitg | I wanted to ask a couple of things ... not really GSoC related ... for the time-series analysis of the CC data ... | 12:50 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: do you have a min? | 12:50 |
| paulproteus | Maybe. (-: | 12:51 |
| paulproteus | Ask away, and I'll get some cereal. | 12:51 |
| ankitg | okie, cool | 12:51 |
| ankitg | so firstly do we have good data on Flickr ... I have a version from Jared but it's not enough data points to do a good time series ... ? | 12:52 |
| paulproteus | What sort of data makes good data? | 12:52 |
| paulproteus | I think we have dailies for the past two years or so. | 12:52 |
| ankitg | oh well that data would be good if we had data from Yahoo and Google for the same period ... | 12:53 |
| paulproteus | We do, actually. | 12:53 |
| ankitg | in the historical CSVs ... there are about 11 months missing ... | 12:53 |
| paulproteus | I think. | 12:53 |
| paulproteus | Oh, you're right. | 12:53 |
| paulproteus | Drat. | 12:53 |
| ankitg | coz I was just compiling the time-series thing with Clint today and well we had "Gaps" :) | 12:54 |
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| ankitg | paulproteus: do we have the data but just not compiled into the historical CSV ... or do we not have the data at all? | 12:56 |
| paulproteus | The historical CSVs are everything, I'm afraid. | 12:56 |
| ankitg | okie, so the next best thing would be if we could get the data for flickr for the other months for which we have Yahoo and Google and other data ... any pointers on that? | 12:57 |
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| nathany | Bovinity: did you make more coffee? | 13:00 |
| Bovinity | no | 13:00 |
| Bovinity | but it's cold and cofee sounds like a real good idea | 13:00 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, FWIW, the Flickr data I have goes from Oct 12 2007 to current, plus the other guy's data from 2006-03-17 to 2007-10-09. | 13:02 |
| paulproteus | http://a5.creativecommons.org/~paulproteus/stats/flickr/ | 13:03 |
| paulproteus | That's strictly all the Flickr data I have. | 13:03 |
| paulproteus | If you want more, then we'd have to talk to to Flickr.com people I suppose. | 13:03 |
| ankitg | ah you've got Flickr data too ... good ... [I only took the other guys - Jared's] | 13:03 |
| ankitg | danke | 13:03 |
| ankitg | will take a look :) | 13:03 |
| paulproteus | The Flickr.com people I don't expect will want to spend much of their time on this. | 13:03 |
| ankitg | there is no historical CSV for the flick data, I see ... | 13:04 |
| paulproteus | Download + cat | 13:04 |
| ankitg | sure, no probs :) | 13:04 |
| ankitg | cURL time :) | 13:05 |
| ankitg | thanks. | 13:05 |
| paulproteus | Sure thing, keep asking me questions, this is fun. (-: | 13:10 |
| ankitg | sure ... will have loads to ask once GSoC starts (-: | 13:12 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: nathany: seems that a7 is down. Anything either of you know about? | 13:33 |
| Bovinity | haven't touched it | 13:33 |
| nathany | nkinkade: nope | 13:33 |
| paulproteus | Me neither. | 13:39 |
| nkinkade | a7 eventually came back, but I restarted cc.engine because it was eating up excessive memory. | 13:51 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, nkinkade, Whenever you'd like to do the stand-up, I'm open. | 16:49 |
| nathany | paulproteus: ok... i'm in the middle of things now | 16:49 |
| * paulproteus nods. | 16:49 | |
| paulproteus | nathany, when you write <form action="FORM_ACTION" ...> in the Herder templates, that's not something I should be keeping, right? | 16:54 |
| nathany | is this in the login template ? | 16:54 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 16:54 |
| nathany | yes | 16:54 |
| nathany | although that's a special case | 16:54 |
| paulproteus | Er, why? | 16:54 |
| paulproteus | i.e., why not use ${h.form(...)} and ${h.end_form()} instead? | 16:55 |
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| paulproteus | Links to the sample code from which you based this would be nice I guess. | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | (Or documentation discussion or whatev.) | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pysbook/Authentication+and+Authorization | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | also http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pysbook/Advanced+AuthKit | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | ? | 16:57 |
| nathany | This might seem quite an awkward way of rendering the template but AuthKit needs to be able to prepare the template before Pylons has a chance to set up the render() function. The AuthKit specification states that templates should contian a single %s string which will be replaced by the form action using Python string interpolation. This means ordinarily the template can't contain any other % signs unless they are quoted as %%. To | 16:58 |
| nathany | avoid this problem the implementation above automatically replaces the the string FORM_ACTION with the %s and correctly quotes any other % signs in the template so that you don't have to worry about these issues yourself | 16:58 |
| paulproteus | Great, thanks. | 16:59 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, nkinkade, reping re: stand if we want | 17:39 |
| nathany | paulproteus: yeah, still buried, want to try and get this untangled | 17:40 |
| * paulproteus nods | 17:40 | |
| jordon | hi all, I have a question about a license | 17:57 |
| paulproteus | jordon, Hi, what's the question? | 17:57 |
| jordon | I took an image that was licensed as CC BY 2.0 and modified it. I want to use my modified version on my web site, all of which is licensed as CC BY-SA 3.0. Can I license the modified version of the image as CC BY-SA if I give credit to the original author and mention that the original version is CC BY? | 17:59 |
| paulproteus | I think the answer to that is yes, and I think this is addressed in the CC FAQ in a nice table. | 17:59 |
| jordon | Thanks. I looked at that, but then I read the legal code for BY 2.0 and I wasn't sure because it says "You may not sublicense the work." | 18:00 |
| Bovinity | jordon: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#I_used_part_of_a_Creative_Commons-licensed_work.2C_which_Creative_Commons_license_can_I_relicense_my_work_under.3F | 18:00 |
| jordon | that is a handy table, by the way | 18:00 |
| Bovinity | jordon: IANAL, but as long as you clearly acknowledge the original author, you're able to license your own derivative under a compatible license from the table. | 18:06 |
| jordon | thanks, Bovinity. I appreciate it | 18:06 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: paulproteus: Can either you think of a reason why it would be a bad idea to places the country_code and flag_code inside non-standard RSS elements inside a namespace like xmlns:ccplanet="urn:cc:planet" ... Magpie handles things correctly that way, and it also seems better to not co-opt <category> for something that's not really a <category> | 18:58 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: i'd say it's fine. It's an element for our own uses, and doesn't conflict with anything else. | 18:59 |
| Bovinity | country_code would be a valid category though. | 19:00 |
| Bovinity | flag_code isn't | 19:00 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Why is country_code a valid category? | 19:01 |
| nkinkade | The problem is that there is no way for the RSS reader to know what "es" is for example. | 19:01 |
| Bovinity | true.. if it showed up as the full country name, then it wouldn't look out of place in a feed reader | 19:01 |
| nkinkade | It's just some unclasses characters stuck inside a <category> element. | 19:01 |
| Bovinity | nevermind, i redact what i said about country_code. | 19:03 |
| nkinkade | Well it might not look out of place, but I still feel like it would be an inappropriate usage because our program on the other end is making the assumption that there will *always* be only 1 category and that that category will *always* be a country_code. | 19:03 |
| nkinkade | By using some totally bogus namespace we can at least identify cleanly and clearly where in the <item> the country_code is located, and also the <flag_code> and any other fields we may want to add at a later date. | 19:04 |
| Bovinity | yep | 19:04 |
| nkinkade | I'm just not very familiar with using URNs in xmlns. I can see the spec, and what I propose above *seems* to be okay and it validates at feedvalidator.org, but I don't want to use something that is horribly broken. | 19:04 |
| nkinkade | I think I'm going to go ahead and implement that in the feed for the planet and then use it in the code. | 19:05 |
| nkinkade | We can take it from there. | 19:05 |
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