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| Bernstein229 | hi | 02:25 |
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| Bernstein229 | is anyone on? | 02:25 |
| isforinsects | Sort of | 02:26 |
| Bernstein229 | lol | 02:26 |
| Bernstein229 | I have a question about how the licences work | 02:26 |
| parkerhiggins | i'm here too. maybe i can help? | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | ok | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | well | 02:27 |
| isforinsects | I = volunteer. And nothing I say should be constituted as legal advice, blah blah blah. | 02:27 |
| isforinsects | Ask away | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | if you want to use the licence | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | on a website | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | for music | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | or anything | 02:27 |
| parkerhiggins | oh yeah, ianal tinla | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | do you just put the licence | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | ont he website | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | and it applies | 02:27 |
| Bernstein229 | to everything? | 02:27 |
| isforinsects | No, you can specify what exactly a license applies to. | 02:28 |
| Bernstein229 | ok | 02:28 |
| Bernstein229 | but you just link to the licence on the website | 02:28 |
| isforinsects | Put a link to the license and explain what it applies to, yeah, that's about all that you need. | 02:28 |
| Bernstein229 | ok | 02:29 |
| Bernstein229 | because | 02:29 |
| Bernstein229 | I compose some music | 02:29 |
| Bernstein229 | on my computer | 02:29 |
| Bernstein229 | and I was thinking | 02:29 |
| Bernstein229 | of makeing a website of them | 02:29 |
| Bernstein229 | and using creative commons | 02:29 |
| isforinsects | Sure. I've seen blog-format websites like that. | 02:29 |
| Bernstein229 | thanks for the information | 02:30 |
| Bernstein229 | I might register on the forums | 02:30 |
| Bernstein229 | I mean | 02:30 |
| Bernstein229 | wiki | 02:30 |
| parkerhiggins | Bernstein229: if you're worried about licensing more than you intend, you can include language along the lines of "music licensed under [cc]" | 02:32 |
| parkerhiggins | i've seen that done | 02:32 |
| Bernstein229 | ok | 02:32 |
| Bernstein229 | thx for the help | 02:33 |
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| paulproteus | Hey now everybody now. | 12:00 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, SYN | 12:03 |
| nkinkade | Hi, paulproteus | 12:04 |
| paulproteus | Actually, let me delay that for a sec. | 12:04 |
| paulproteus | But good morning. (-: | 12:04 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, What was the ssh-vulnkey command you used to generate that email? | 12:04 |
| nkinkade | I cut and pasted the relevant items, but it was $ sudo ssh-vulnkey -a | 12:04 |
| paulproteus | sudo ssh-vulnkey -a # seems to do it | 12:04 |
| * paulproteus nods | 12:04 | |
| paulproteus | When I said before that I had removed the keys from my $HOME, I thought that was because that was all the places I had left keys. Sorry about that. | 12:06 |
| paulproteus | FWIW, the gitosis keydir won't be searched by ssh-vulnkey. | 12:06 |
| paulproteus | But ~svn/.ssh/ would be. | 12:06 |
| paulproteus | I'm looking at those two right now. | 12:06 |
| paulproteus | (man ssh-vulnkey - it only checks $HOME/~.ssh/id* ) | 12:08 |
| paulproteus | I | 12:09 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to move ~svn/.ssh/id_dsa* to ~svn/.ssh/evil/ since it's also compromised. | 12:09 |
| paulproteus | (And generated a new RSA key for svn@a6.) | 12:09 |
| nkinkade | ssh-vulnkey doesn't search the gitosis keydir, but it does search the $GITOSIS_HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys. | 12:10 |
| paulproteus | Ah-hah! | 12:11 |
| paulproteus | Good point. | 12:11 |
| paulproteus | There, git and svn handled. | 12:14 |
| paulproteus | Sorry about me being a moron in the above and weekend discussion of ssh-vulnkey. | 12:14 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: You weren't being a moron. It took me a while to figure out where ssh-vulnkey was getting all the keys, though I could have figured it out by looking in /etc/passwd. I think it's a slight flaw in ssh-vulnkey that it often doesn't produce the full path to the file where it found the vulnerable key. | 12:19 |
| paulproteus | It never does, as far as I can tell. | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | It only produces the comment section of the key. | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | Which is sometimes a pathname. | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | I think you should /usr/bin/reportbug and file a Debian bug against ssh-vulnkey and see if they'll add that. (-: | 12:20 |
| nkinkade | It seems to in the case of actual key files such as id_dsa and id_dsa.pub, for example. | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | Oh, interesting. | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | Also fwiw, it's Perl, so you might do well to hack it and submit a patch with that bug. (-; | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | (iirc) | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | Wait, never mind, the current one isn't Perl. | 12:21 |
| paulproteus | The demo app last Tuesday was in Perl. | 12:21 |
| nkinkade | It sure would be handy, and I imagine that it would be trivial to implement. Yeah, it's an ELF binary, but I bet it would be easy enough to implement that even I, who doesn't know the first thing about C, could probably implement it. | 12:22 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: SYN | 12:25 |
| paulproteus | nathany, GOODMORNING | 12:26 |
| nathany | :) | 12:26 |
| nathany | git question (of course) | 12:26 |
| nathany | doing "git pull" on a repository gives me the following message | 12:26 |
| nathany | You asked me to pull without telling me which branch you | 12:26 |
| nathany | want to merge with, and 'branch.master.merge' in | 12:26 |
| nathany | your configuration file does not tell me either. Please | 12:26 |
| nathany | name which branch you want to merge on the command line and | 12:26 |
| nathany | try again (e.g. 'git pull <repository> <refspec>'). | 12:26 |
| nathany | See git-pull(1) for details on the refspec. | 12:26 |
| paulproteus | Probably a git-svn repository, right? | 12:26 |
| nathany | nope | 12:26 |
| paulproteus | Ah, excellent. | 12:26 |
| paulproteus | Here's my suspicion. | 12:27 |
| nathany | did i forget to add the origin pointing @ gitosis? | 12:27 |
| paulproteus | When you created your current branch, you didn't tell git that which origin/* branch you wanted to track. | 12:27 |
| paulproteus | If you look in .git/config, things will hopefully be clearer. | 12:27 |
| nathany | ok | 12:27 |
| nathany | .git/config contains: | 12:27 |
| nathany | [remote "origin"] | 12:27 |
| nathany | url = git@code.creativecommons.org:semtech2008 | 12:27 |
| nathany | fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* | 12:27 |
| paulproteus | But what about what I said about your current branch? | 12:28 |
| nathany | i don't understand that statement | 12:28 |
| paulproteus | BTW, if you ask git to "git fetch ; git merge origin/master" it will merge origin/master into your current branch? | 12:28 |
| paulproteus | Er, the above wasn't a question but at statement. | 12:28 |
| paulproteus | (a) | 12:28 |
| paulproteus | $ git branch | 12:28 |
| paulproteus | (b) What's it .git/config for that branch? | 12:28 |
| nathany | * master | 12:28 |
| nathany | i see no reference to that in .git/config | 12:29 |
| paulproteus | Interesting. | 12:29 |
| nathany | this was a new repository, which is why the statement about "branch" didn't make any sense to me | 12:29 |
| paulproteus | For me, I have in my .git/config for a git clone: | 12:29 |
| paulproteus | [branch "master"] | 12:29 |
| paulproteus | remote = origin | 12:29 |
| paulproteus | merge = refs/heads/master | 12:29 |
| nathany | hrm | 12:29 |
| paulproteus | If origin/master is the one you want to merge in, you can "git merge origin/master", which will merge origin/master with your local changes (if any; otherwise it'll do a fast forward). | 12:30 |
| paulproteus | How did you create this local git repo, by doing "git clone <something>"? | 12:30 |
| nathany | no | 12:30 |
| nathany | git init | 12:30 |
| paulproteus | Then git remote add? | 12:30 |
| paulproteus | Then git push --all or something to origin? | 12:30 |
| nathany | then (probably) git remote add origin git@YOUR_SERVER_HOSTNAME:free_monkey.git | 12:30 |
| nathany | (from the gitosis docs) | 12:30 |
| paulproteus | (/me nods) | 12:31 |
| nathany | i thought i might have forgotten that line, but assume the info in .git/config implies i didn't | 12:31 |
| nathany | (that and the fact i've been able to push) | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | The problem is that this branch "master" isn't aware of the default thing to pull from. | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | It's not specified in your .git/config. | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | That makes sense since when the local branch "master" was created, there was nothing to pull from! | 12:31 |
| nathany | right | 12:31 |
| nathany | i guess i thought add the "origin" was enough | 12:31 |
| nathany | add == adding | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | So if you want to merge from origin/master, you can either do the manual "git merge origin/master" every time, or you can instead specify it in the .git/config as I pasted. | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | Every branch has its own awareness of which branch to pull what things from. | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | Er, correction: | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | Every branch has its own awareness of which branch is used as the default merge operation when "git pull" is called. | 12:32 |
| nathany | every branch or every cloned repository? | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | Every (local) branch. | 12:33 |
| paulproteus | Now, cloned repositories automatically create a local branch called "master" that is set to merge from origin/master. | 12:33 |
| paulproteus | That's a "git clone" convenience. | 12:33 |
| nathany | so i have to remember to edit git config in addition to running git remote origin blah, blah blah when i want to create a new repository w/storage @ code.cc.org? | 12:33 |
| nathany | (or push, delete, pull, i suppose) | 12:34 |
| paulproteus | Unless you want to "git merge origin/master" instead of "git pull", yes. | 12:34 |
| nathany | wow, that's sort of a pain in the ass | 12:34 |
| paulproteus | I can see what you mean, but somehow I'm unfazed. | 12:35 |
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| paulproteus | The fact that you have a remote doesn't mean you always want to merge your current branch with it. | 12:35 |
| nathany | it makes sense, it just seems that if you assert something is your origin you're making a stronger statement than git is | 12:35 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay. | 12:35 |
| nathany | right, but i'm calling it "origin" for a reason | 12:35 |
| paulproteus | Convention vs. Configuration: Round 1.023e21, FIGHT! | 12:35 |
| nathany | i can totally understand the behavior, it just seems that the perfect is the enemy of the good in this case | 12:36 |
| nathany | heh | 12:36 |
| * nathany goes back to writing slides in Slidy and crying on the inside | 12:36 | |
| Bovinity | "Slidy"? That inspires hope. | 12:37 |
| paulproteus | It appears to be W3C-brand S3. | 12:37 |
| Bovinity | hope++ :< | 12:37 |
| paulproteus | Is that a moustache? | 12:37 |
| nathany | it's like S5 but (iirc) has slightly cleaner markup for the slide divs | 12:38 |
| paulproteus | Er, yeah, S5 != S3. | 12:38 |
| nathany | and doing the slide backgrounds, etc is slightly saner as well | 12:39 |
| nathany | (although to be honest i haven't looked at S5 in the past 6 months... i just have Slidy templates+CC now that work so I start with those) | 12:39 |
| nathany | CC -> CSS, that is | 12:39 |
| paulproteus | class="incremental" | 12:40 |
| nathany | what of it? | 12:40 |
| paulproteus | Nothing, it just sounds reasonably nice. | 12:41 |
| paulproteus | No need to get defensive! | 12:41 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Can you think of a good reason why country_code for Catalonia shouldn't be es-ca, or something like that? I feel like I had a good reason a couple months ago, but now I can't remember it. It was why I had implemented the flag_code in the Planet configs, so that we could keep the country code as "es", but it's causing the Spanish flag to show up for Catalonia posts under Jurisdiction News. | 12:49 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, FWIW, Catalonia is definitely not a flavor of Spain. | 13:33 |
| paulproteus | Isn't it a separate Nation without a State? | 13:33 |
| paulproteus | I think that's sort of like calling Palestine part of Israel. | 13:33 |
| paulproteus | (As I understand things.) | 13:33 |
| nkinkade | It's what is known as an "autonomous community" | 13:35 |
| nkinkade | Interestingly, I was just speaking about this with a friend of mine from Spain yesterday. | 13:35 |
| nkinkade | My understanding is that it's something more akin to the what goes on in the UK ... or at least more like that than the concept of states. | 13:37 |
| Bovinity | i think it's similar to when Scotland was goverened by england, but was a seperate kingdom with their own parliament | 13:38 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Are there libraries to *generate* RDFa (pref. from C)? | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | I'm thinking of handling http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Polish_CLI_for_liblicense today. | 13:40 |
| nathany | paulproteus: none that i'm aware of | 13:40 |
| nathany | wouldn't that just be an HTML generating library? :) | 13:41 |
| paulproteus | nathany, woo-hoo! | 13:41 |
| paulproteus | Well, an XHTML generating library, preferably one that's aware of RDF semantics. | 13:41 |
| paulproteus | (Since RDFa isn't valid HTML except in XHTML with extra XML namespaces, as I recall.) | 13:41 |
| nathany | RDFa *can* be valid HTML but isn't necessarily | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Sure, okay. | 13:42 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Can you help me figure out AuthKit? | 14:13 |
| paulproteus | As far as I can see, no profile data on is stored in Herder anywhere. Do you know the normal way to do that? | 14:13 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: he just stepped out for lunch | 14:13 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Sweet. (-: | 14:13 |
| nathany | paulproteus: I assume by profile data you mean... default language, etc? | 14:15 |
| nathany | or real name? | 14:15 |
| paulproteus | I was just thinking 'real name' for a start. | 14:15 |
| paulproteus | I'm trying to write a /register page, you see. | 14:15 |
| nathany | IIRC that's not an AuthKit thing -- you'd create a Profile (or something) model that had a foreign key to the user | 14:15 |
| nathany | right | 14:16 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: Is there some major diff. between magpieRSS on a6 and a7? | 16:22 |
| nkinkade | The are acting totally differently. | 16:22 |
| Bovinity | there shouldn't be | 16:23 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Why is it that this line: require_once ("magpie/rss_fetch.inc"); is located in the a7 config, but commented out a6? | 16:26 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: it's commented ou on a6? it shouldn't be | 16:28 |
| nkinkade | When I uncomment it I get errors about not being able to redefine some function. | 16:29 |
| Bovinity | ah, yeah. | 16:29 |
| Bovinity | on a6 there's a conflict with wp-includes/rss.php, a conflict that only occurs on a6. | 16:29 |
| nkinkade | But why does it only occur on a6? | 16:30 |
| Bovinity | never been able to replicate it on any other WP | 16:30 |
| nkinkade | I suspect that the problems I'm having with magpie on a6 have to do with some lost functionality. | 16:30 |
| nkinkade | ... due the fact that rss_fetch.inc is not included. | 16:31 |
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| nkinkade | Much like http://www.zedshaw.com/rants/rails_is_a_ghetto.html I feel that staging has become a ghetto. | 16:35 |
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| nkinkade | The version of the offending function in rss.php on a7 is wrapped in this "if ( !function_exists('parse_w3cdtf') ) :" | 16:41 |
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| Bovinity | staging is quite a ghetto | 16:50 |
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| paulproteus | At least, unlike Ruby on Rails, it's safe to rm -rf staging. | 16:53 |
| paulproteus | Or maybe I have that backwards! | 16:53 |
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| paulproteus | I think that at this point, the RPM I made is not bad! | 17:03 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: paulproteus: The plugin called "Sociable" was causing a6 to auto-load rss.php. Sociable was including wp-includes/rss-functions.php, which itself, being deprecated apparently, does nothing more than include rss.php. | 19:15 |
| paulproteus | Magick! | 19:16 |
| Bovinity | ah, that would explain it | 19:16 |
| Bovinity | we ahd to turn sociable off on a7 due to it fucking something up | 19:16 |
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