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| rejon | sick! | 10:03 |
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| rejon | hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahaha | 10:03 |
| rejon | nathany and paulproteus: any ideas on automating having some slice of time to show current tasks | 10:06 |
| rejon | I like the new completed date | 10:06 |
| nathany | well the question is what constitutes "current" | 10:06 |
| rejon | but wish we could have something like completed date - 7 days | 10:06 |
| rejon | like the weekly call | 10:06 |
| nathany | so things completed in the last 7 days? | 10:06 |
| rejon | I mean NEW/in-progress | 10:06 |
| rejon | yes | 10:06 |
| nathany | wait, completed in the last 7 days is not the same as new/in-progress | 10:07 |
| rejon | sorry | 10:07 |
| nathany | we could do something that showed "completed in the last 7 days" i think | 10:07 |
| rejon | I mean last 7 days of new/in-progress and then also the last 7 days of completed | 10:07 |
| nathany | right | 10:07 |
| nathany | the last half is easy | 10:07 |
| nathany | the first half is hard -- it shouldn't be *all* new/in-progress, but things that've been touched | 10:08 |
| rejon | [[Target date:=>{{#time:j F Y|-7 days}}]] [[Target date:=<{{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}]] | 10:08 |
| rejon | the parser function doesn't work, but the template functions work | 10:08 |
| rejon | or rather, template variables (bad words from me today) | 10:08 |
| nathany | right, but we're not talking about target date, are we? the target could be a month out, but i may be working on it now | 10:09 |
| rejon | right, that is old | 10:09 |
| rejon | the basic problem is just an easy way to get a slice of time so a date doesn't have to be entered manually each time | 10:10 |
| rejon | thus, then have the automated weekly view....yes! | 10:10 |
| nathany | i'm sorry, i haven't had enough coffee to think about this -- i still think you have an outstanding problem of figuring out what's been "touched" in the past 7 days | 10:11 |
| rejon | hahaha :) | 10:13 |
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| rejon | nathany: I'm not so concerned with what has been touched, but more of the dates a task has been completed and is being worked on, which is easier to track... | 10:26 |
| nathany | rejon: right, but what i'm saying is, how do you know what's being worked on? | 10:27 |
| nathany | i'm saying that tasks which have been "touched" is one possible way -- like you left a comment about state or something | 10:27 |
| paulproteus | Mornin', all. | 10:28 |
| nathany | and i'm also saying that target date is not the way because that's the date you're trying to complete by | 10:28 |
| nathany | morning paulproteus | 10:28 |
| rejon | yo paulproteus | 10:28 |
| rejon | nathany: right, which is why I like the completed date | 10:28 |
| rejon | oh, from the template can get the last mod time | 10:28 |
| rejon | or rather a template var | 10:28 |
| rejon | but still would need a way to get a slice of time | 10:28 |
| nathany | yes | 10:29 |
| rejon | i've hit a wall with it | 10:29 |
| nathany | it's on our radar, but not high priority (even wrt other SMW tasks) | 10:29 |
| rejon | its a high priority for me...ok, well, I guess I'm not annoyed with it enough to fix at this point, and can still edit manually... | 10:40 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, The empty http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Paulproteus&action=edit has a plus button. | 11:32 |
| paulproteus | ankitg_cc_sg, Hi! | 11:32 |
| paulproteus | Lemme dig up those headers for you. (-: | 11:32 |
| paulproteus | http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=User:Paulproteus&action=edit§ion=new works | 11:33 |
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| paulproteus | The MediaWiki git-svn import is taking forever, but I really, really look forward to this. | 11:42 |
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| ankitg_cc_sg | paulproteus, sorry having a bad internet connection ... | 11:57 |
| ankitg_cc_sg | paulproteus, would be great if you could just email me once you're done ... no rush (-: | 11:58 |
| paulproteus | Okay, cool. (-: | 11:58 |
| paulproteus | If I haven't gotten to it within a few hours bug me again. | 11:58 |
| ankitg_cc_sg | paulproteus, sure ... I live to bug you (-: | 11:58 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, So if I have my own checkout of this Selenium RC recipe that I had to modify (I did have to, honest) that I want my buildout scripts to find, what's the way to do that? | 12:45 |
| paulproteus | I can put it into git-svn or just leave a tarball somewhere or whatever. | 12:45 |
| paulproteus | I emailed my patch to the maintainer so hopefully he'll just accept it, but I don't want to rely on that for now. | 12:45 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: its a sad commentary that i'm listening to Michael Jackson's Bad and i'm surprised when the opening lyric is not "your butt is wide, well mine is too" | 13:00 |
| nathany | too much weird al, i guess | 13:01 |
| paulproteus | You know it. | 13:01 |
| paulproteus | nathany, What about asking setup.py to pull from a different URL? | 13:01 |
| nathany | a different URL for... a dependency? | 13:01 |
| Bovinity | i have an urge to go download bad and thriller now... | 13:01 |
| paulproteus | Ya. | 13:01 |
| nathany | dependency_links=[...] iirc | 13:02 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 13:02 |
| nathany | Bovinity: Amazon has the "Number 1s" collection in the MP3 store | 13:02 |
| Bovinity | oh, and smooth criminal | 13:02 |
| nathany | (which is where I picked it up Monday, along with Prince's best hits) | 13:02 |
| nathany | Bovinity: http://10.0.2.183:9080/license | 13:03 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Will that require an egg, or will it be able to live with finding a tar.gz? | 13:03 |
| nathany | paulproteus: it will prefer an egg, but will fall back to a tgz | 13:03 |
| paulproteus | Sweet. | 13:03 |
| nathany | you can also do some semi-weird stuff with having it checkout from svn on demand for you, too | 13:04 |
| nathany | well, not really weird, just "woah" | 13:04 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, When you get a chance, please go through that git tutorial I linked yesterday <> and let me know what you make of it. | 13:15 |
| paulproteus | http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/tutorial.html , that is. | 13:16 |
| nkinkade | I actually had gone through that one from home about a week ago. | 13:16 |
| Bovinity | hmm, the amazon mp3 downloader reminds me of the emusic one | 13:16 |
| nkinkade | But interestingly, not 5 minutes ago I looked through the #cc logs to find that URL. | 13:16 |
| paulproteus | Oh, awesome. | 13:16 |
| paulproteus | Then they say chapters 1 and 2 of http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html are good to do next. | 13:17 |
| paulproteus | I'm preparing the MW git-svn stuff, which is why I thought of it again. | 13:17 |
| paulproteus | (About which I'm extremely excited.) | 13:17 |
| nkinkade | So, I was upgrading the other wikis, and then my goal was going to be to figure out git-svn and how to get the wiki stuff into a repository that I can later 'git pull' easily. | 13:17 |
| nkinkade | Oh, nevermind on what I said then. | 13:17 |
| nkinkade | Except the last part. | 13:18 |
| * paulproteus nods | 13:18 | |
| paulproteus | It's probably worth learning git-svn for other stuff, but pretty much all I've done is the standard git-svn import. | 13:21 |
| paulproteus | I had to fiddle with one setting to get it to only pull the phase3/ directory in (if you recall MW's svn repo layout...). | 13:21 |
| paulproteus | I suggest what we do is that you be the one to do the import for SMW or something. | 13:21 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm not sure an import can be done for SMW, since as far as I know SMW doesn't have their code in a subversion repository for general use. | 13:23 |
| nkinkade | Though I guess we could put it up in our own. | 13:23 |
| paulproteus | Uh, I'm pretty sure they're hosted in MW's repository. | 13:23 |
| paulproteus | In extensions/ | 13:23 |
| paulproteus | Same with Semantic Forms as I recall. | 13:23 |
| paulproteus | http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ | 13:23 |
| nkinkade | Could be. But it was just a day or to ago that Nathan was grumbling about this, too. | 13:23 |
| paulproteus | http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ | 13:23 |
| nkinkade | How recent is that? | 13:23 |
| paulproteus | Oh, yes, their repository layout + lack of discipline with branches etc. is really brain-damaged. | 13:23 |
| paulproteus | Don't get me wrong about *that*. | 13:24 |
| paulproteus | I've been using that for months over at SFC. | 13:24 |
| nkinkade | I like the offlineimap emits so much info to stdout. I feel more confident about what it's doing when I can see what is happening, to some extent. | 13:25 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 13:26 |
| paulproteus | BTW, make sure you're on the latest version. | 13:26 |
| nkinkade | I'm using whichever version was in Etch .... 4.0.14 | 13:29 |
| nkinkade | It seems to have version creep about like Semantic Forms. Unless my eyes are deceiving me it has gone from 4.0.12 on 3/15 to 5.99.11 on 4/17. | 13:32 |
| nkinkade | Oh, wait. Two diff. branches, it seems. | 13:32 |
| Bovinity | Vincent Price really makes Thriller all the more awesome. | 13:46 |
| nathany | uh, duh | 13:56 |
| nathany | Bovinity: http://10.0.2.183:9080/license | 13:57 |
| nathany | ML and I decided to punt on completely revising the question "more info" text | 13:57 |
| nathany | that'll go into the next round | 13:57 |
| nathany | but thoughts? is it *too* intimidating? | 13:58 |
| Bovinity | intimidating perhaps.. | 14:02 |
| * Bovinity fires up Firebug | 14:02 | |
| Bovinity | maybe some style tweaking will make it clearer | 14:02 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Do upgrade one of these days, though. | 14:03 |
| nkinkade | offlineimap? | 14:03 |
| paulproteus | Ya. | 14:04 |
| nkinkade | Maybe there is a backport? | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | I ran into this on my server at home. | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | The backport isn't current, and I was too afraid to try to use an old version. | 14:05 |
| paulproteus | I just gave in and adding testing to sources.list and set /etc/apt/preferences to not use testing for anything unless I demand it, and then did apt-get -t testing install offlineimap. | 14:05 |
| paulproteus | You could always just do it on your laptop, since that could be a lot to ask from a8. | 14:05 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, I would rather that all software on the servers is installed through package management and without any odd configurations if possible, so I may just do the actual sync on my local machine, but I think it was worth doing the backups at least on a8. | 14:09 |
| * paulproteus nods. | 14:10 | |
| paulproteus | http://store.glennz.com/clownfish.html | 14:10 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, I'm beginning to be pleased by eggs and their surrounding world. | 14:19 |
| nathany | paulproteus: glad to hear it | 14:19 |
| paulproteus | Also I thought nkinkade how IMAP works, which was fun. | 14:19 |
| paulproteus | Er, taught, even. | 14:19 |
| nathany | :) | 14:19 |
| nathany | Bovinity: paulproteus: nkinkade: curry? | 14:20 |
| paulproteus | NAK on curry | 14:20 |
| paulproteus | I still love http://store.glennz.com/clownfish.html . | 14:20 |
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| paulproteus | 1 3 is my suggestion. | 14:21 |
| nkinkade | I'd like to get curry, but I plan to walk somewhere with it. | 14:23 |
| paulproteus | He's going to walk off with the curry! | 14:24 |
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| nkinkade | And at first paulproteus *did* thought me how IMAP works, but seeing as how my ESP isn't sufficiently developed we feel back on the 20th century method of combining small meaningful marks on a non-permanent surface, and only then did I learn IMAP. | 14:36 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: ^^ (nkinkade's ESP joke) | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | I, for one, still like IMAP. | 15:32 |
| paulproteus | I seem to meet people who dislike it. | 15:33 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, (-: ... ? | 16:14 |
| nathany | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=User:Jon_Phillips&diff=15734&oldid=prev | 16:15 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: do you know at what version the fixes for Gmail IMAP were added to offlineimap? | 16:51 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Not off-hand; I'd just get the latest (add Debian sources.list ; apt-src -bi install offlineimap). | 16:51 |
| nkinkade | 5.99.4 is in the hardy heron repository, but it's still a few versions back. | 16:52 |
| nkinkade | thanks. | 16:52 |
| paulproteus | (Add Debian deb-src line, that is.) | 16:52 |
| nkinkade | So the newest version will always be availble as a source package? | 16:53 |
| paulproteus | As quickly as the Debian maintainer uploads it, at least. | 16:55 |
| nkinkade | I see the deb-src lines are already in sources.list, but is that any better than just "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot"? | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | This uses the real Debian packaging, not whatever the upstream shipped. | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | Sometimes the two are identical, maybe in this case. | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | Because Debian is made by elitists, they always advise you to use the real Debian packaging. | 17:00 |
| nkinkade | It installed 5.99.4 .. the version that was already a binary package. | 17:03 |
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| paulproteus | http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt are the canonical apt-key docs. | 17:08 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Seems "debian-archive-keyring" is what I wanted. | 17:12 |
| paulproteus | Oh, well. | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | I saw that just a minute ago. But I went about it another way. | 17:17 |
| nkinkade | I added the key to my own keyring and then "gpg --export A70DAF536070D3A1 | sudo apt-key add -" | 17:18 |
| nkinkade | And so now it installed 5.99.11. Thanks. | 17:19 |
| nkinkade | And as an unrelated side note Firebug 1.2.0a23X seems to work with Firefix 3.0b5 | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | At least the few things I've tested so far. | 17:21 |
| nkinkade | Now I'm just desperate to get Live HTTP Headers working. | 17:21 |
| paulproteus | Neato. | 17:22 |
| nkinkade | This add-on is pretty cool: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/966 | 17:31 |
| nkinkade | And this one too, but it requires some configuration as to what headers to show when you hover your mouse over the status bar part: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4276 | 17:32 |
| nkinkade | And the former one, when you ask it to, will pop up a window that allows you to "tamper" with the headers that the browser sends. | 17:33 |
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| mattsy | if i license my music with cc 3.0 by-nc-sa, can i allow certain people to distribute it commercially? | 18:04 |
| paulproteus | mattsy, Absolutely. | 18:05 |
| paulproteus | As the (C) holder, you can always grant separate permissions. CC licenses are non-exclusive. | 18:05 |
| paulproteus | I believe this is in the FAQ. | 18:05 |
| mattsy | a lot is in the faq, i think i glazed that one over ;) | 18:05 |
| mattsy | thanks for encouraging me to go back there; that answered all of my questions. thanks! | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | Awesome! (-: | 18:12 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Where did you put that git repository of mediawiki? | 18:18 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I just deleted it. | 18:18 |
| paulproteus | I'm trying to fix branch and tag imports right now. | 18:18 |
| nkinkade | So I should just hang tight for a while? | 18:19 |
| paulproteus | Yeah. | 18:19 |
| nkinkade | nathany: You there? | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Did you once tell me that nathany was uploading our stand-up photos somewhere? | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | techblog | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | Also his Flickr stream. | 18:25 |
| nkinkade | Ah. Thanks. | 18:26 |
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| nkinkade | I do believe that the upgrade to Hardy Heron somehow resolved my ffmpeg2theora woes ... and my woes of converting a high-res Flash video to AVI. | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | Neato. | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | But I'm not sure how. I had used mencoder to create an AVI from a high-res Flash, but the result was all washed out. I uploaded the washed out version to a6 for safe keeping. I upgraded today and redownloaded the AVI to have another go at it, and it looked just fine! | 18:52 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Would you have any interest in downloading this to see how it looks on a Mac? http://a6.creativecommons.org/~nkinkade/mayer_and_bettle2.avi | 18:57 |
| Bovinity | well quicktime won't play it, but i cna tell you what it looks like in VLC | 18:59 |
| Bovinity | (if my interest lasts long enough for it to download :P) | 19:00 |
| nkinkade | What's VLC? | 19:00 |
| Bovinity | cross platform ?ber media player... | 19:00 |
| nkinkade | The upload form at Revver locks up both FF2 and FF3. Oh, well. | 19:03 |
| Bovinity | colour looks great to me | 19:04 |
| nkinkade | Okay, then that somewhat tells me that mencoder did a fine job, but that mplayer was not rendering it properly. But now it does with Hardy Heron. | 19:05 |
| Bovinity | whoever made this really likes invader zim... | 19:05 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 19:05 |
| nkinkade | Would you mind uploading it Revver? :) | 19:05 |
| Bovinity | hm, i can try uploading it in safari | 19:06 |
| nkinkade | Does Revver lock up your FF as well? | 19:07 |
| nkinkade | Do you have the login credentials? | 19:07 |
| paulproteus | FWIW, it's "Fx" not "FF". | 19:07 |
| Bovinity | perhaps, i'd rather not tempt it to crash | 19:07 |
| Bovinity | Fx = Flex to me. | 19:07 |
| paulproteus | http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html says: Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx". | 19:08 |
| nkinkade | I like FF better. | 19:09 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yep, got the revver login | 19:09 |
| paulproteus | French Fries | 19:09 |
| Bovinity | firefries | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | I'm not willing to take political correctness in software that far. | 19:09 |
| paulproteus | French Fox | 19:10 |
| Bovinity | wow, revver has changed since i last looked at it | 19:10 |
| Bovinity | freedomfox... | 19:10 |
| nkinkade | A better question is whether any intended recipients didn't know what I meant. | 19:10 |
| Bovinity | dude, i had no idea what you meant | 19:10 |
| nkinkade | Not what some raving pedant thinks is or isn't correct for an abbreviation. | 19:11 |
| paulproteus | Does it lock up your french fries? | 19:11 |
| paulproteus | I don't seem to have Flash. Oh, well, that was almost a fun website. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | re: revver | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | Dinosaurs died due to oil-fueled global warming: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/429/2 | 19:12 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Were you uploading that video, or should I try it with IE6 via wine!? | 19:21 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: do you have title and description details for the upload? | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | Or should that be Ie6? | 19:21 |
| Bovinity | winie6 | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | Hang on, let me get you that title and desc. | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | And come to think of it, since it's Firefox one work my new preferred abbreviations shall simply be F. | 19:22 |
| nkinkade | So F is all F'ed up. | 19:22 |
| Bovinity | the upload was fine in Si | 19:22 |
| Bovinity | Sf? | 19:23 |
| Bovinity | S | 19:23 |
| nkinkade | What the F!? | 19:23 |
| nkinkade | Gives a whole new meaning to WTF. What The Firefox! | 19:24 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: How about using the title/desc. from the old one: http://support.creativecommons.org/videos/#mayerandbettle? | 19:25 |
| nkinkade | But we may have to change the title to something "Mayer and Bettle 2" | 19:26 |
| nkinkade | Actually, we probably should. That's what they care calling it. In any case, I suppose we can always change the description later. | 19:26 |
| Bovinity | indeed. | 19:27 |
| Bovinity | i'll put it in for now. | 19:27 |
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