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| thelsdj | does no-derivative works mean I can't convert to a more accessable format? | 13:52 |
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| thelsdj | http://issuu.com/spectra/docs/cambistandlordiron is cc-by-nc-nd 3.0 but only available in a stupid flash format | 13:56 |
| nathany | Bovinity: curry? | 14:04 |
| Bovinity | sure | 14:07 |
| nkinkade | thelsdj: I suppose whether you can or can't convert the file depends on how you intend to use it. If you don't intend to redistribute or otherwise share your conversion then there may be no problem with converting the format. | 14:17 |
| nkinkade | But I'm actually not sure whether converting the video encoding would constitute a derivative work. It's sort of a gray area. | 14:18 |
| nkinkade | Take a look at the definition of "Adaptation" here if you haven't already: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/legalcode | 14:19 |
| thelsdj | hehe i like how you assumed its a video, its actually TEXT | 14:19 |
| thelsdj | which is why pisses me off its only available in flash | 14:19 |
| nkinkade | Oh sorry. You mentioned Flash and my mind immediately jumped to video. | 14:20 |
| nkinkade | I see the legal code mentions "or any other form in which the Work may be recast, transformed," | 14:20 |
| thelsdj | seems to me theres a question of whether the Work is the visual representation of the text or the text itself | 14:22 |
| thelsdj | "You may not impose any effective technological measures on the Work that restrict the ability of a recipient of the Work from You to exercise the rights granted to that recipient under the terms of the License." | 14:25 |
| thelsdj | seems like they are breaking their own license there | 14:25 |
| nkinkade | Yeah. The concept of a derivative and also of commercial use is very debatable. | 14:25 |
| thelsdj | since they are restricting my ability to distribute | 14:26 |
| nkinkade | I suspect that clause is referring to DRM of some sort, but, hey, I'm sure that a skillful lawyer could make a case for your point. | 14:26 |
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| paulproteus | Hey ankit|busy. | 15:15 |
| paulproteus | Don't answer if you're busy, but hi anyway. (-: | 15:15 |
| ankit|busy | hi ... | 15:16 |
| ankit|busy | busy as in 4+ am ... half asleep ... =) | 15:17 |
| ankit|busy | Had a nice trip? | 15:18 |
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| paulproteus | Yes! | 15:20 |
| ankitg | Since you are here ... I've been thinking, it would be great if you could pass me the names of the fields from the logs ... that ways, no sanitation or work required on your side ... a small file transfer and I still get all the info I need to get started ... what say? | 15:23 |
| ankitg | I need to get a real IRC client (not this web thingy) so that I don't need to change my nick to get attention =P .... anyways ... | 15:27 |
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| youthere | you there paulproteus? | 15:29 |
| * paulproteus blinks | 15:29 | |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 15:29 |
| paulproteus | youthere, Freaky nick. | 15:30 |
| youthere | I just trying to get attention ... | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | I'm in the middle of something, but later today / tomorrow I should be able to give you those. | 15:32 |
| paulproteus | Even 90 minutes from now should be fine. | 15:32 |
| youthere | awesome ... I'll check in 90 mins then :D | 15:32 |
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| paulproteus | lol, ankit! | 15:38 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/tutorial.html for simple git intro. | 16:55 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, You should read through and actually do (like, type the commands) that git tutoria. | 17:28 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: thanks. I'll take a look at it. | 17:29 |
| paulproteus | nathany, So what should I do if I want to change that egg? | 17:29 |
| nkinkade | I guess I need to get up to speed, since GIT is apparently the Subversion of the 21st century. :) | 17:29 |
| paulproteus | i.e., update the download URL | 17:30 |
| paulproteus | No caps, but yes. (-: | 17:30 |
| nathany | well it looks like you don't need to update the egg, just set the parameter in the section of buildout.cfg | 17:30 |
| paulproteus | Oh, good point. | 17:30 |
| paulproteus | http://pypi.python.org/pypi/hexagonit.recipe.cmmi/1.1.1 | 17:30 |
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| StayTuned | hello | 18:45 |
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| ankit_cc_sg | Hey paulproteus, about than 90 X 3 minutes since ... are we there yet? (-: | 20:53 |
| ankit_cc_sg | hmmm more than + about = about than ... and English takes another step (in no particular direction) ... anyways, ping me when you're around. | 20:57 |
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