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| paulproteus | nathany, Mornin'. | 10:52 |
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| nathany | morning paulproteus | 10:56 |
| paulproteus | Doing this MW import is more interesting than I thought. | 10:57 |
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| rejo1 | http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/ but what is open about it? | 11:03 |
| rejo1 | looks like a bunch of fabricated press quotes | 11:04 |
| paulproteus | rejo1, They supposedly published the Flash 9 spec and FLV streaming spec. | 11:04 |
| paulproteus | So Gnash and swfdec and friends should hopefully have an easier life now. | 11:05 |
| rejo1 | yes, true | 11:05 |
| rejo1 | *open spec* ... what the hell does that mean? | 11:05 |
| paulproteus | And if there are Free implementations, then that gives some credence to the "open" name. | 11:05 |
| paulproteus | It means no restrictions on reading the spec. | 11:06 |
| rejo1 | what about the restrictions on using the info? | 11:06 |
| paulproteus | I think there are none but I haven't verified that. | 11:07 |
| rejo1 | yah, flv uses sorenson codec among others | 11:07 |
| rejo1 | patent violation minefield | 11:07 |
| paulproteus | Sure, but that doesn't relate to the licensing of the FLV and PDF specs. | 11:08 |
| paulproteus | It relates to the third-party rights in complete implementations of the specs. | 11:08 |
| paulproteus | That is to say, those aren't Adobe's rights to grant. | 11:08 |
| paulproteus | nathany, hi? | 11:09 |
| paulproteus | Question about task tracking: What's the normal way for me to add a task to myself now? | 11:09 |
| paulproteus | I see that http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Technology#tab=Projects only is interested in projects. | 11:09 |
| paulproteus | Oh, wait, if I click on "open tasks"... | 11:09 |
| nathany | paulproteus: open tasks or the user:paulproteus tab | 11:11 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Never mind, got it. (-: | 11:11 |
| nathany | got it | 11:12 |
| nathany | paulproteus: you don't happen to have a USB bluetooth dongle, do you? | 11:12 |
| paulproteus | Nope. | 11:13 |
| nathany | kthxbye | 11:13 |
| paulproteus | You don't happen to have an SD card reader lying around, do you? | 11:13 |
| nathany | ;) | 11:13 |
| nathany | well i have one built into my work laptop and have a USB one at home for my macbook | 11:13 |
| paulproteus | You live a life of luxury. | 11:14 |
| nathany | i know | 11:14 |
| paulproteus | I bought one last night that is total garbage and resets itself every few seconds. | 11:14 |
| nathany | have i mentioned how cool python on the N95 is? | 11:14 |
| nathany | yucky | 11:14 |
| paulproteus | (to finally replace the multi-card reader that I lost with my backpack) | 11:14 |
| paulproteus | I guess I should just buy a good one from Newegg and stomach the wait. | 11:14 |
| nathany | i hate the wait | 11:14 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, so I went to Office Max around 14th & Harrison last night and bought this trash instead. | 11:15 |
| paulproteus | At least I bought a nice mechanical pencil. | 11:15 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Did you read "A Comment From Your Mom" like I did on the recent comment you replied to? | 11:17 |
| paulproteus | Curiously the SD reader seems to work okay in Windows. | 11:18 |
| paulproteus | It did work okay in Linux once, though, so maybe it's just a fluke. | 11:19 |
| nathany | paulproteus: you mean did it sound like a comment from my mom? | 11:20 |
| nathany | which one? | 11:20 |
| paulproteus | No, I mean, this: | 11:20 |
| paulproteus | 521 8:39 Creative Commons (5K) . A comment from Your Name | 11:20 |
| paulproteus | I read that as: | 11:20 |
| paulproteus | 521 8:39 Creative Commons (5K) . A comment from Your Mom | 11:20 |
| nathany | lol | 11:20 |
| nathany | got it | 11:20 |
| nathany | no, i didn't read that :) | 11:20 |
| paulproteus | Every time I see it I keep misreading it. | 11:20 |
| paulproteus | Maybe it was all the your mom jokes with my friends last weekend... | 11:20 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I've got a USB Bluetooth device, but it's at home. | 11:25 |
| nkinkade | If it's not urgent I can bring it tomorrow. | 11:25 |
| nathany | nkinkade: not that important | 11:25 |
| nathany | i have bluetooth on my macbook, so can just do the work from there (and it's just screwing around with a bluetooth python console on my phone) | 11:26 |
| nkinkade | I'll bring it in tomorrow. | 11:26 |
| nkinkade | ah. | 11:26 |
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| _arcane_ | Hey paulproteus, I am assuming you'll be here in about 3 to 4 hours ... so here's a friendly reminder for the CC log headers, since I'll be asleep by then ... (-: | 11:34 |
| paulproteus | _arcane_, Hey, I'm working on that email right now. (-: | 11:34 |
| _arcane_ | cool ... I guess email is more effective after all (-: | 11:35 |
| _arcane_ | lol, bet Sam doesn't bug you as much ... (-: | 11:37 |
| paulproteus | Speaking of which, nathany, someone's got some bloggin' to do! | 11:40 |
| nathany | paulproteus: uh, huh? | 11:40 |
| paulproteus | Did you blog SoC? | 11:40 |
| paulproteus | And I just didn't notice? | 11:40 |
| nathany | http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/8260 | 11:41 |
| paulproteus | Speaking of which, nathany, someone's got some blog reading to do! | 11:41 |
| nathany | lol | 11:41 |
| paulproteus | _arcane_, (1) You might want to consider using a desktop IRC client. | 11:44 |
| paulproteus | (2) Is there a wiki.cc.org page for your project yet? | 11:44 |
| paulproteus | If not, I'd love it if you'd make one based on the two emails I'm sending you. | 11:45 |
| paulproteus | _arcane_, sent! | 11:45 |
| _arcane_ | (1) any recommendations for a mac ... ? | 11:46 |
| _arcane_ | (2) will do. | 11:46 |
| paulproteus | _arcane_, You could use X-Chat Aqua. | 11:47 |
| paulproteus | That's what I'd use since I already know X-Chat. | 11:47 |
| paulproteus | Colloquy is widely-used and more Mac-like. | 11:47 |
| paulproteus | Colloquy looks appallingly nice. | 11:48 |
| nathany | _arcane_: Colloquy is quite nice | 11:49 |
| Bovinity | Colloquy is nice | 11:49 |
| Bovinity | except for its Growl abuse | 11:49 |
| * paulproteus growls. | 11:49 | |
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| nathany | paulproteus: have you registered for OSCON yet? | 11:56 |
| nathany | if not, can you do so so Shirley will stop spamming me? | 11:57 |
| nathany | (i assume you're getting the messages as well.. if not i'll forward one on to you) | 11:57 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I'm pretty sure I did. | 11:57 |
| paulproteus | But lemme double-check. | 11:57 |
| nathany | oh, ok | 11:57 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, What exactly does registering myself mean? | 12:01 |
| paulproteus | I am logged in to https://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/user/account now, and I can click on "View speaking details" or "Check proposal status". | 12:01 |
| nathany | uh, let me look | 12:01 |
| paulproteus | Under "Messages and requests" I am told, "You currently have no outstanding requests from the organizers. Any new messages will always appear on your Dashboard home page." | 12:01 |
| nathany | http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/content/speaker-resources | 12:02 |
| nathany | click "speaker registration" | 12:02 |
| nathany | oh | 12:02 |
| nathany | hrm | 12:02 |
| nathany | under Summary on the dashboard does it show an Attendance item? | 12:02 |
| paulproteus | No. | 12:02 |
| nathany | looking @ http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/user/proposal it shows you haven't registered | 12:03 |
| paulproteus | Well, that's good. | 12:03 |
| paulproteus | I wonder how I register. | 12:03 |
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| paulproteus | I can email Shirley back and ask. | 12:03 |
| nathany | http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/user/proposal | 12:03 |
| nathany | is there a link for you next to your name that says register? | 12:03 |
| paulproteus | Nope, not a link. | 12:03 |
| nathany | i see one that says "Register on their behalf" which i suppose i could do but I *thought* it'd be easier | 12:03 |
| paulproteus | Just " * Nathan Yergler. Registered. | 12:03 |
| paulproteus | * Asheesh Laroia. Not yet registered. | 12:03 |
| paulproteus | " | 12:03 |
| nathany | ok, nevermind, i'll do it | 12:04 |
| paulproteus | Okay, thanks... | 12:04 |
| nathany | actually remind me when you get in so you can pick your tutorials | 12:04 |
| nathany | t-shirt, etc | 12:04 |
| paulproteus | Okay. | 12:05 |
| paulproteus | I'll be in by around lunchtime for sure. | 12:07 |
| paulproteus | Maybe sooner with these cookies. | 12:07 |
| * paulproteus wrestles with git. | 12:07 | |
| Bovinity | the cookies may be gone by then. | 12:08 |
| nathany | Bovinity: vincent price is awesome | 12:26 |
| nkinkade | Firefox 3.0b5 is not working out for me at all. It keeps crashing. It grabs the sound device in a way that prevents others apps from playing music. | 12:27 |
| Bovinity | b4 seemed to be less crashy | 12:28 |
| nkinkade | The iwl3945 driver seems buggy too. I might try to manually fall back to the ipw3945. | 12:29 |
| nkinkade | A few minutes ago, I went to watch the Mayer and Bettle 2 video and it was all washed out again. I rebooted and it started playing fine. | 12:29 |
| nathany | nkinkade: what sort of problems are you seeing w/iwl3945? seems to be working fine for me | 12:29 |
| nkinkade | Hardy Heron has not treated me well, either at home or here. I'm sad that I upgraded. | 12:29 |
| nkinkade | nathany: A couple of times this morning my connection has vanished. I did an ifdown -> ifup and it started working again. | 12:30 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yeah, that sucks | 12:30 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, "grabs the sound device" sounds like a pulseaudio vs. Flash-nonfree fight. | 12:30 |
| nkinkade | It also doesn't light up the wifi light on the laptop, so I have no visible means to know if I'm associated or not. | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | It does sound sad, though. | 12:31 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: You could be right, as I did install the Flash-nonfree yesterday. | 12:31 |
| nkinkade | So that I could do this stuff with Revver for Mayer and Bettle 2. | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, If you install the libflashsupport package and quit and reopen Fx that should do the trick. | 12:32 |
| nkinkade | Should I have used libflash-mozplugin | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, I have that and I also have these Flash sound woes. | 12:33 |
| paulproteus | So maybe that alone isn't the answer. | 12:33 |
| paulproteus | Back to fiddling with git for now. | 12:33 |
| nkinkade | I'll give it a shot ... thanks for the tip. | 12:33 |
| nkinkade | Seems like that should be installed as a dependency of Flash-nonfree on Ubuntu ??? | 12:34 |
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| paulproteus | Gah, so close, yet so far. | 12:35 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Does this have anything to do with the git-svn that you were working on for MW? | 12:36 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, That's exactly what I'm fiddling with still. | 12:36 |
| ankitg | thanks for pointing me to colloquy nathany ... works like a charm ... :) | 12:38 |
| paulproteus | Yay. (-: | 12:41 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: libflashsupport seemed to work okay for me. I was able to produce a horrendous cacophony by simultaneously playing a Flash video in FF(!) :) and also a movie with mplayer. | 13:03 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, ! | 13:03 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 13:03 |
| nathany | Bovinity: btw, i committed those templates this morning | 13:03 |
| nathany | cc/engine/metadata_templates/metadata.pt is the metadata box | 13:04 |
| Bovinity | hooray! | 13:04 |
| nathany | cc/engine/macros_templates/engine.pt is the chrome | 13:04 |
| Bovinity | trying to get buildout to work right now | 13:04 |
| nathany | *and that should be macros_templates above, too | 13:04 |
| nathany | ah, cool | 13:04 |
| nathany | let me know if you have problems | 13:04 |
| Bovinity | i am, actually | 13:04 |
| Bovinity | xxx_report failing | 13:04 |
| paulproteus | >>> import xxx | 13:06 |
| Bovinity | from xxx import hookers ? | 13:09 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: do you have access to the sciencecommons server? | 13:10 |
| nkinkade | I do. | 13:10 |
| nkinkade | It's a3. | 13:10 |
| nkinkade | You should too. | 13:11 |
| Bovinity | oh | 13:11 |
| nathany | Bovinity: sciencecommons.org or neurocommons.org? | 13:11 |
| Bovinity | science | 13:11 |
| nathany | yeah, its a3 | 13:11 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, neurocommons.org is at MIT. | 13:11 |
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| tvol | hi nathany | 13:15 |
| nathany | hey tvol | 13:15 |
| paulproteus | Howdy tvol! | 13:15 |
| paulproteus | You're a free man today! | 13:15 |
| tvol | hi! | 13:15 |
| tvol | haha yeah i suppose, but not quite. smw questions... | 13:16 |
| nathany | shoot | 13:16 |
| paulproteus | BTW, I think I decreased my perplexity about this git-svn stuff. | 13:16 |
| tvol | nathany, paulproteus: what creates the cool grid and sort functions on our teamspace pages | 13:16 |
| tvol | ? | 13:16 |
| tvol | like the little box with the triangles that you can click to sort | 13:17 |
| nathany | just SMW | 13:17 |
| Bovinity | very small unicorns | 13:17 |
| tvol | hmm. haha | 13:17 |
| nathany | as far as i know, no magic going on | 13:17 |
| nathany | maybe the format adds them (broadtable, IIRC) | 13:17 |
| nathany | that said, they're sorta lame -- all client side, so if you're only seeing 20 results of 100, it's only those 20 that get sorted | 13:18 |
| tvol | nathany: i couldn't get them to show up--maybe i'm not doing the ask queries in the same way as you | 13:18 |
| tvol | oh i see | 13:18 |
| tvol | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:Ask/-5B-5BCategory:Casestudy-5D-5D/%3FAuthor/%3FUser-20Status/%3FFormat/%3FCountry/%3FMainurl/sort%3D/order%3DASC | 13:18 |
| tvol | whoa | 13:18 |
| nathany | i don't think you can specify formatting stuff to the special:ask page | 13:19 |
| Bovinity | IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/nathan/p/cc.engine/trunk/parts/cc_engine/access.log' | 13:19 |
| nathany | tvol: i wouldn't spend any time trying to get them to show up -- if anything they're deceiving to users and not that helpful | 13:20 |
| tvol | ok nathany--cool | 13:20 |
| tvol | thanks | 13:21 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I decided to do the imap migration stuff directly from a8, since even the tar-gzipped file for all the mails is 2.5GB. | 13:28 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Hooray duplication. | 13:28 |
| nkinkade | So, I'm trying to install the newest version of offlineimap on a8 via the same apt-src stuff as on my local machine, but I'm getting a dep failure that I don't understand. | 13:28 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 13:28 |
| paulproteus | It's going to be horrible. | 13:29 |
| nkinkade | For "debhelper" | 13:29 |
| paulproteus | It's so bad, I tried it for hours and then gave up and did aptitude -t testing install offlineimap a week back on my parents' home server. | 13:29 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I just won't even try. Or I suppose I could just dpkg-buildpackage from the upstream source? | 13:29 |
| nathany | Bovinity: we should probably use the "i" circle graphic for deeds, too, right? (ie http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/) | 13:30 |
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| Bovinity | yes | 13:31 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Honestly, just do it from some machine that runs testing or unstable or Ubuntu. | 13:32 |
| paulproteus | If necessary, use a chroot on a8 I guess. | 13:32 |
| paulproteus | You're welcome to just let it run on my desktop. | 13:32 |
| paulproteus | And in case my desktop goes totally nuts, you should rest assured that offlineimap *does* resume its operations correctly. | 13:33 |
| paulproteus | IMAP is very chatty, so it's not going to be big bandwidth hog. | 13:33 |
| paulproteus | And besides, we're all wondershaped. | 13:33 |
| nkinkade | I would like avoid downloading a 2.5GB tgz file, only to have to unzip it and then upload only-god-knows-how-many gigabytes from the office on a 768kbps uplink. | 13:33 |
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| paulproteus | Then the best thing to do is to create a testing chroot on a8. | 13:34 |
| nkinkade | Maybe. | 13:34 |
| nkinkade | Or I could just "make install" on the source. | 13:34 |
| paulproteus | Oh, there's that too! | 13:34 |
| nathany | christ | 13:35 |
| nathany | LOL | 13:35 |
| nkinkade | Maybe before I do it I can do a "make -n install &> what-in-the-world-is-make-doing.txt" | 13:36 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, You could use "checkinstall" even. | 13:36 |
| paulproteus | A handy-dandy tool. | 13:36 |
| paulproteus | nathany, nkinkade, in other news, my MW git-svn repo is working. I'm redoing the svn import just to make sure my instructions, so it should be ready tomorrow. | 13:36 |
| nathany | great | 13:36 |
| nkinkade | Nice, thanks. | 13:36 |
| nathany | nkinkade: what version of firebug did you say was working well with FF3? | 13:36 |
| nkinkade | 1.2 alpha. | 13:38 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I'm going to prepare a techblog post with instructions for how to do this sort of thing - is that the right venue? Or is the wiki better since it'll contain a HOWTO that might need to be updated. | 13:38 |
| nathany | where did you find that? i only see 1.1 beta | 13:38 |
| nkinkade | http://getfirebug.com/releases/firebug/1.2/firebug-1.2.0a24X.xpi | 13:38 |
| paulproteus | ?google firebug 1.2 alpha | 13:38 |
| nathany | paulproteus: techblog is totally the correct venue | 13:38 |
| nathany | you can always mirror in the wiki, include a link in the post | 13:38 |
| nkinkade | For some reason 1.1 wasn't working for me. Oh, wait. I think I read somewhere that someone said that 1.1 was working, but only in an external window. | 13:39 |
| nathany | 1.1 wasn't working right for me... didn't try in an external window | 13:39 |
| nkinkade | Neither did I, and I read that tidbit after I had already installed 1.2. | 13:39 |
| nkinkade | The only thing is that there is no way to disable 1.2 without totally disabling the plugin. | 13:40 |
| nkinkade | But it seems okay. | 13:40 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: checkinstall doesn't seem to be in the Etch repository. | 13:41 |
| nkinkade | Oh well. | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Er, really? Golly. | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Wow, that's bizarre. | 13:42 |
| nkinkade | I don't mind installing something with make as long as I have a reliable way of uninstalling it later. | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Well, that should be easy to apt-src -bi install... | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | checkinstall makes a .deb out of a "make install". | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Any "make install". | 13:42 |
| nkinkade | So that might worth having then. | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Er, the backport won't work. | 13:43 |
| paulproteus | I'd just install the older packages for sarge: http://packages.debian.org/sarge/installwatch and http://packages.debian.org/sarge/checkinstall | 13:44 |
| paulproteus | http://www.asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/download.php offers .debs - that seems better. | 13:45 |
| nkinkade | And the version from testing is not working either, now I get a build dep failure for "libc6-dev" | 13:45 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, that's why I said it'd fail. | 13:45 |
| nkinkade | Right. So I'll try your suggestions of sarge packages now. | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | I tried those. | 13:46 |
| nkinkade | Better than those from Sarge ... at the MX site, that is? | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | They're broken on etch it seems. | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | Use the Mexican Edition. | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | HAH! | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | I think these are created with checkinstall! | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | INGENIOUS! | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, they're okay, use the.m | 13:47 |
| paulproteus | The sarge ones fail with a weird error making temporary directories. | 13:47 |
| nkinkade | Package management systems are great, until you want to tangle with them, and then you need some pretty in-depth knowledge to effectively get around them without mussing the whole system. | 13:48 |
| paulproteus | Hacked by Chinese^WMexicans | 13:48 |
| nkinkade | That's what I always do in a pinch, fall back on the Mexican Edition. | 13:48 |
| nathany | OMG i just realized that the B-52's album includes the word "bootybot" in the lyrics | 14:03 |
| nkinkade | Oh, install wasn't even a valid target, but there was as setup.py file, so I just used that. | 14:03 |
| nathany | woot | 14:03 |
| nkinkade | Looks like it only installed a single file: /usr/bin/offlineimap | 14:03 |
| nkinkade | That should be easy enough to back out of.l | 14:03 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, It surely installed Python modules too. | 14:03 |
| paulproteus | I still need to consider submodules in this MW git story. | 14:04 |
| nathany | Bovinity: can you click through http://labs.creativecommons.org/~nathan/copypaste/name.html to the deed and let me know if you think the (i) looks ok? | 14:04 |
| nkinkade | It did in fact, it just happened earlier in the process. | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | nathany, http://techblog.creativecommons.org/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&post=71 is the start of my MW draft. Let me know if it's too self-aggrandizing. | 14:04 |
| nkinkade | But it should still be easy enough uninstall if I want, but I don't know that I want. | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | I think I'm going to head into the office, see you all soon. | 14:05 |
| nkinkade | Like you've said many times, paulproteus, functionality is good. | 14:05 |
| nathany | paulproteus: does MW use tags? | 14:05 |
| nathany | reads fine so far, and i'd probably call SMW, etc on their shit for not using tags | 14:06 |
| paulproteus | nathany, They do use tags and branches. | 14:06 |
| nathany | great | 14:06 |
| nathany | yeah, looks fine so far | 14:07 |
| paulproteus | The thing I was struggling with for the past long-time was making git clones of the git-svn import aware of those. | 14:07 |
| paulproteus | That has been fixed. | 14:07 |
| paulproteus | (Which also makes me Very Excited.) | 14:08 |
| Bovinity | nathany: it looks wrong. | 14:12 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Can I get you to install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Layers (a non-Google Maps version of Semantic Maps NY and I mentioned on Tuesday for the ccLearn mapping stuff) on wiki-dot-cc? | 15:39 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: sure. | 15:40 |
| nathany | Bovinity: nice of you to volunteer to take the banner | 15:41 |
| nathany | i'm probably going to maker faire on saturday but have zero desire to schlep a banner there | 15:42 |
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| Bovinity | i just booked a zipcar to go. | 15:46 |
| paulproteus | I'd like my zipcar for here, with FF. | 15:49 |
| Bovinity | F. | 15:51 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Semantic Layers is installed, but apparently you're going to need a Google Maps API key, which I suppose you already have or know how to get. | 15:53 |
| paulproteus | Nope! | 15:53 |
| paulproteus | We can use the OpenLayers world map instead. | 15:53 |
| nkinkade | You can enter it on the last line of LocalSettings.php | 15:53 |
| paulproteus | Just like we did last year. (-: | 15:53 |
| nkinkade | Oh. Perfect. | 15:53 |
| nkinkade | So where do things stand with the MW git repository? | 15:54 |
| paulproteus | I'm waiting for a svn re-import to happen. | 15:54 |
| paulproteus | I'd like to document the use of git submodules for extensions also before unleashing it on the world (incl. you). | 15:54 |
| Bovinity | nathany: there may be more to tweak, but http://10.0.2.183:9080/license has the pretty now | 16:04 |
| nathany | sweet | 16:04 |
| nathany | are you going to commit the CSS? | 16:04 |
| nathany | (and i assume there may be changes to the .pt as well? | 16:04 |
| Bovinity | css is in, gotta commit my other changes | 16:04 |
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| davidmccabe | nkinkade: Your email address is pretty hard to find. | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Monday whole day: Open Mobile Sexchange. Tuesday morning: Nothing. Tuesday afternoon: People for geeks. | 16:07 |
| paulproteus | nathany, if I should come by your machine and click the buttons myself lemme know. | 16:07 |
| nathany | paulproteus: do you want your physical addr/email addr/phone # published in the attendee directory? | 16:08 |
| nathany | t-shirt size? | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | T-shirt: M | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | email: Y, rest no | 16:08 |
| nkinkade | davidmccabe: Sorry about that. Did you find it? | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | ?google nathan kinkade creativecommons.org | 16:08 |
| Bovinity | nathany: would changing the "title of work" "attribute to name" translation strings be a huge pain in the arse? | 16:09 |
| nathany | change it to... ? | 16:09 |
| nkinkade | davidmccabe: It's my nick in here + @creativecommons.org | 16:09 |
| nathany | Bovinity: ^^ | 16:10 |
| Bovinity | "Title of work", etc.. capitalizations mostly | 16:11 |
| nathany | uh, it's already that, right? | 16:11 |
| nathany | where are you seeing "title of work"? | 16:11 |
| Bovinity | and i suppose "Tell us the format of your work" would be better as "Format of work" | 16:11 |
| davidmccabe | nkinkade: Get a spam filter, man. | 16:11 |
| nathany | oh, you're on en_GB/UK? | 16:11 |
| Bovinity | i am? | 16:12 |
| Bovinity | hmm | 16:12 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Oops. I just untared the ctyme stuff ontop of google and now it seems that offlineimap is removing the local stuff I just dropped in there. | 16:12 |
| davidmccabe | nkinkade: Anyways I just wanted to touch bases; haven't heard anything from you or Google yet. Later. | 16:12 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: do you grant permission to the press to photograph you? | 16:12 |
| nathany | paulproteus: and agree to https://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/content/speaker-agreement? | 16:13 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: offlineimap is on the fritz. | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | !? | 17:42 |
| paulproteus | openssl s_client -host imap.gmail.com -port 993 | 17:43 |
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| Ademan | i just ran into an interesting problem. If someone had a GPL software project, a CC icon couldn't be part of it could it? (any related reading materials would be nice) | 17:57 |
| paulproteus | Ademan, Well, you'd have to just make sure to users it was clear that the license for the image was separate from the license for the software. | 17:59 |
| paulproteus | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html considers the term "aggregate". | 17:59 |
| Ademan | thanks | 18:00 |
| Ademan | i'll read | 18:00 |
| paulproteus | You could also read through the long and extensive http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ . | 18:00 |
| paulproteus | In particular, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#If_I_use_a_Creative_Commons-licensed_work_with_other_works.2C_do_I_have_to_Creative_Commons_license_everything_else_as_well.3F . | 18:00 |
| paulproteus | CC uses the term "collective" work where FSF uses "aggregate" but they mean very similar things. | 18:00 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, Lemme know if I satisfied you with those emails. | 18:01 |
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