Tuesday, 2008-04-22

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Tritoniohello everyone08:26
Tritoniopaulproteus: are you here?08:26
Tritoniopaulproteus: anyway i have to go now. The translation must be ready but I have to discuss some points with you so i'll be back in some hours. I hope we talk then... :-)08:35
Tritoniopaulproteus: (i was talking with you yesterday, right?)08:36
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mib_apmhuh63hi.11:06
mib_apmhuh63paulproteus: are you here?11:06
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paulproteusnathany, Okay with you if I come in in my pajamas?11:55
paulproteusI'm running extraordinarily late on a day where I have just too much to do.11:55
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* paulproteus plans to do so, see you all soon.11:56
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nathanypaulproteus: LOL fine by me12:00
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rejo1I'm not going to where shoes or a shirt today at the office...12:15
nathanyrejo1: FYI I'm working on making tasks in teamspace use tabs for display as well as editting12:15
nathanyits going to require collapsing your widgets into the task template, but should be able to do so with a simple bot script12:15
nathanyalso, while i'm at it (and while you're online) are there times you actually use the "website" semantic relation? (as opposed to just keeping the link in the body text)12:16
nathanyno opinion either way, here, just thought it might simplify things a little12:17
rejo1nathany: have at it all...I'm along for the ride at this point ;)12:22
rejo1looks awesome...I'm just trying to keep up with the awesomeness...12:23
nathanyrejo1: thanks; wrt to the latter? (ie, does the website need to be marked up as a semantic relationship?12:23
rejo1yes, for making lists of overall tasks, contacts, projects12:24
nathanyok12:24
nathanythanks12:24
rejo1alot of that was for vr's famous report...12:26
rejo1not sure how much will actually be useful...regardless, want to make sure in sync with the mainline stuff you are doing with tasks tracking, etc, more than being off in some isolated pond to evolve with 3 arms12:30
paulproteusnathany, Stand up in 2M/12:32
paulproteus?12:32
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paulproteusnkinkade, http://utsl.gen.nz/talks/git-svn/intro.html13:05
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nathanyBovinity: paulproteus: curry for lunch today?13:20
paulproteusnathany, I doubt, but we'll see.13:20
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Matsonhi - is Nathan on?13:21
nathanyhi Matson - in a mtg right now13:21
Matsonok13:21
nathanyfeel free to ask any questions, might just be slow to respond13:22
nathany(or feel free to email)13:22
Matsonthe 2 questions were about the BEP - if there was any movement on it13:24
nathanyyou emailed me about that, right?13:24
Matsonand one about getting the licence creator name from RDF parsing the license pages13:24
nathanyright13:24
Matsoninstead of grabbing it from the title13:24
nathanyso re: BEP, very little movement, i've got your email flagged for follow up today re: why13:24
nathanywrt the license creator, we should definitely add that to the deeds13:25
nathanycan't remember what your suggested predicate was -- dc:creator?13:25
nathanybut we already have it in the RDF/XML, just need to mix it into the HTML template13:25
nathanyI can do that this afternoon, but it'll take about 12-18 hours to regenerate all of those13:25
Bovinitynathany: curry. sure. just need $5.13:27
Matsonyes dc:creator13:29
Matsonhmmm, maybe I'm not accessing the right place then  " but we already have it in the RDF/XML "13:30
Matsonfor a licence, for example http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/13:31
Matsonis there a separate RDF/XML way to access that?13:31
Matsonof are you talking about the XML that content creators put on their web statement?13:31
nathanyMatson: so there's a separate rdf/xml file that you could use13:38
nathanyjust append "rdf" to the license URL13:38
nathanyi think that doing RDFa is probably slightly better because it means you can support non-CC licenses13:38
nathany("append 'rdf'" is a CC-ism)13:38
Matsonhttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/rdf ?13:39
nathanyyes13:40
Matsoninteresting.13:41
Matsonvery useful13:41
Matsonbut it doesn't have "Creative Commons" either13:41
nathanyright... so dc:creator should be a resource, which can have a title ("Creative Commons")13:42
Matsonok13:42
nathanywe can mark up the HTML to make that available via RDFa13:42
Matsoncool13:43
Matsonfor now we'll search for dc:title on the HTML page13:44
Matsonand use that13:44
nathanyok13:44
nathanyi'll update the deed template this afternoon and begin the regeneration process13:44
MatsonThank you!13:45
Matsonthe title string in AMhttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/rdf13:46
Matsonis13:46
Matson<dc:title xml:lang="en">Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs</dc:title>13:47
nathanydoes it include "Creative Commons" in the HTML?13:47
nathany(i don't recall()13:47
Matsonin two places, yes13:49
Matsonbut not xhtml tagged13:49
nathanyah, got it13:50
Matsonthis is the place...13:51
Matson<div id="header">13:51
Matson<p align="center"><a href="/">Creative Commons</a></p>13:51
Matsonwhere adding dc:creator might be most useful to us13:52
nathanyyup, we'll get that in there13:52
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paulproteusdc:creator is http://creativecommons.org in the RDF, right?15:27
paulproteusSo would we really want it to be a string here?15:27
paulproteusnathany, Also I hope the Songbird guys get a patch to TagLib committed that duplicates half of liblicense's functionality. (-:15:27
nathanypaulproteus: no, there won't be a string there15:28
nathanyas i tried to explain earlier, it'll be a resource with a title that's a string15:28
paulproteusGot it; shame I can't read.15:28
paulproteusnathany, I guess  when you installed gitosis you didn't ask it to make a .deb.15:30
nathanyno idea15:30
paulproteusWell, I'll tell you no then.15:30
nathanyok15:31
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paulproteushttp://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit !15:45
nathanypaulproteus: woot15:45
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nkinkadenathany: I noticed a while ago that when creating a new task in Teamspace it assigned the task to User:User:.16:25
nathanyyes16:25
nkinkadeI know you were working on it, maybe you already corrected it.16:25
nathanya bug i will be correcting real soon now16:25
nkinkadeCool.16:25
nathanythanks for the re-ping16:25
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nkinkadeOh, nathany, I forgot to mention that APC is now running on a6-8.  The performance increase was pretty dramatic - around 4x speedup.  But paulproteus is still unsatisfied that it's not the 5x increase he had predicted, so he's still scheming.16:48
nathanylol16:48
nathanyok, great16:48
nathanytechblog write up when you get a chance?16:48
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nathany(and feel free to refer to paulproteus as "scheming")16:48
nkinkadeGood point.  I was just remember that I had failed to post something new up there.16:49
paulproteus(-: re: scheming16:52
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mib_l6ypgj3lpaulproteus: are you here?17:42
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paulproteusYes.17:43
paulproteusBut very busy.17:43
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Tritoniopaulproteus: just keep this link and take a look when you can. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pvPH-7oaeZ12TSLAxvh8YfA18:25
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Tritonioit's the translation along with comments for what I changed and why.18:26
Tritonioi think it's ok but I am asking eveyone I can. The only thing I might change is just one word. Well except if you have any objections. :-)18:27
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