Wednesday, 2008-03-19

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nkinkade* Updates and backs for neurocommons wiki11:13
* paulproteus blinks11:13
paulproteusIs this the new #cc2008?11:13
nkinkade* Some updates to wpLicense to take it to v1.011:13
nkinkade* Today comments will go live again on the CC blog11:14
nkinkade* Launched Croatia v3.0 licenses yesterday with the help of Nathan Y11:14
* paulproteus blinks in nkinkade's direction11:14
nkinkadepaulproteus: It's the cc2007 of the 21st century.11:14
paulproteusSo I see.11:15
paulproteusBut I wonder if the AIM chat room isn't a better match.11:15
nkinkadepaulproteus: I'd say AIM is much better, and I was wondering why your name suddenly had an "s" again.11:18
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nathanypaulproteus: the allowed values are fixed for the content directories11:35
nathanyturns out its a bug in SMW (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11820)11:35
nathanyi've made the change suggested in the comments and that seems to fix it for now11:36
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rejonnkinkade: will trackbacks show up on the blog too?12:07
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CIA-5fourstones * r9437 /cchost/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): admin: hide all files for a user12:23
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paulproteusnathany, Thanks re: allowed values13:35
nathanypaulproteus: np13:36
nkinkaderejon:  I'm not sure re: trackbacks.  Is that something that should be there?13:38
nathanynkinkade: rejon: trackbacks are completely superfluous13:39
rejonah13:39
rejoni think they work through standard comments system13:40
Bovinitythey do13:40
rejonwhy superfluous nathany13:40
rejonok, cool, bov13:40
rejoni don't comment on other ppls blogs...rely upon trackback13:40
rejonand visibility13:40
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nathanythere's an amazing amount of trackback spam out there13:40
nathanyand they don't go through akismet AFAIK13:41
Bovinitythey don't13:41
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nathanyif we get them "for free", fine, but super low (sub-zero) priority for us to get on the site if not13:41
rejonat least he was a good character in mortal kombat13:42
paulproteusnkinkade, A nice idea for logrotate + dovecot (or, heck, logrotate + S3): http://www.dirvish.org/pipermail/dirvish/2008-March/001727.html13:56
paulproteusIn particular, the follow-up mentioning "That option is "dateext". Make sure your version understands it."13:57
nkinkadepaulproteus: what's interesting about that thread?14:01
paulproteusThe dateext thing.14:01
paulproteusMaybe you already do it, I dunno.14:01
paulproteusMy logrotate uses syslog.1.gz, syslog.2.gz type filenames.14:01
nkinkadeI already use it.14:01
paulproteusExcellent.14:01
* paulproteus quietly retreats14:01
nkinkadeIt was easy on the new servers, but it was a mess on a3 because of an older version of logrotate that didn't understand that declaration.14:02
nkinkadeI ended up in a small-ish rpm nightmare if I recall, but that was months ago.14:02
paulproteushttp://scie.nti.st/2007/11/14/hosting-git-repositories-the-easy-and-secure-way14:12
paulproteusnkinkade, You might like (?) the above also.14:19
nathanypaulproteus: i think the weirdest thing about gitosis is the fact that you always identify yourself as "git" (username)14:21
paulproteusWeirdest?14:21
paulproteusI naturally identify as git.14:21
Bovinityit's only weird the first time.14:24
nkinkadepaulproteus: UPDATE wp_posts SET comment_count = (SELECT count(*) FROM wp_comments WHERE comment_post_ID = wp_posts.ID);14:38
paulproteusAh, there we go.14:38
paulproteusTotally.14:38
nkinkadeI think that should do it.  I just ran it on staging and it seemed to work okay.14:38
nkinkadeI was glad to see that it only updated 16 records. :)14:39
nkinkadeThank God that it wasn't hundreds or thousands  otherwise I might lose faith in the WP code base.14:39
paulproteusHah.14:39
paulproteusI already don't have much faith in it.14:40
paulproteusI mean, I have some.14:40
paulproteusJust not much, you know.14:40
nkinkadeBut still.  16 seems like too many.  How did it get out of sync?14:40
nkinkadeA bad plugin, or ghosts in the machine?14:41
Bovinitypeople have faith in WP code?14:42
nkinkadeI don't really, but it does generally seem to work.14:43
paulproteusIt does do things, that's for sure.14:43
nkinkadeI'm impressed sometimes that such a swamp of code can interoperate14:43
Bovinitystrange, magical, things14:43
nkinkadeRows matched: 2642  Changed: 18  Warnings: 014:44
nkinkadeBut as our meeting this proved, bogs, swamps and morasses can and do work.14:45
CIA-5paulproteus * r9439 /asheesh_oneoffs/oeo_import/oeo_import.py: Jane says fix up the license columns this way14:45
nkinkadeBovinity: I deleted all the old spam comments awaiting moderation yesterday, but today there are 3 new comments yet comments are not turned on.  How can that be?14:49
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CIA-5paulproteus * r9440 /asheesh_oneoffs/oeo_import/oeo_import.py: Corrected by Jane14:58
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paulproteusOn a task page for me <http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/UserScript_for_microarray_analysis>:15:28
paulproteus#  Comment in source code should be 'NIH GEO sample selector', not 'thingamajig' (sorry)15:28
* paulproteus chuckles some more.15:28
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nkinkadeBovinity: nathany: can I retroactively active post comments for every post?16:14
paulproteusnkinkade, retroactively "activate" might have made more sense.16:16
nkinkadeIndeed.  I should write a grammar checking plugin for pidgin.16:17
nkinkadeIt woudln't have caught that, but still.16:17
paulproteusWhy wouldn't it have?16:23
paulproteushttp://www.languagetool.org/16:24
paulproteus(-:16:24
paulproteushttp://www.languagetool.org/demo/ doesn't catch the error.16:25
paulproteusAw well.16:25
paulproteusnathany, The "webmasters" example looks good.16:28
paulproteuslook for WEBMASTE16:28
nathanythanks16:28
paulproteushttp://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions16:31
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CIA-5paulproteus * r9442 /pywikipedia/trunk/for_category_member.py: Fix template formatting17:17
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CIA-5paulproteus * r9443 /pywikipedia/trunk/README: Don't need to cd to17:19
CIA-5paulproteus * r9444 /pywikipedia/trunk/import_from_dir.py: Use unquote_plus (oops)17:21
CIA-5paulproteus * r9445 /asheesh_oneoffs/oeo_import/oeo_import.py:17:27
CIA-5Use codecs for writing to files17:27
CIA-5Allow Http:// (fix it to http://)17:27
CIA-5Use url_fixup for mainurl17:27
CIA-5paulproteus * r9446 /pywikipedia/trunk/for_category_member.py: PYWIKIPEDIA_PATH17:30
paulproteusnathany, I forgot to write down a note to myself to actually run the content directories fixing bot, so I'm doing it now.17:33
paulproteusHumorously (?) there's a Content Directory that's also an OEO.17:33
paulproteusCan we change the OEO acronym to be OREO somehow?17:33
paulproteusMy Formats fixer doesn't appear to be corrupting the pages, which is nice.17:34
CIA-5paulproteus * r9447 /pywikipedia/trunk/for_category_member.py: Actually do the work; also, handle things okay if we are not the only template in use17:41
CIA-5paulproteus * r9448 /pywikipedia/trunk/import_from_dir.py: Use codecs to write the note on disk17:44
paulproteusnathany, Jane wants some graphing extensions for using the data we're having her jam into SMW.17:46
paulproteusThis seems pretty reasonable to me.17:47
nathanyok17:47
paulproteusI'll see if there's anything that exists that matches.17:47
nathanyoh, she just wants it to do it, not a specific extension?17:47
paulproteusRight, she has a goal and no decided strategy for reaching it.17:47
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Viper550this may sound odd, but I'm licensing my science project under some CC licenses18:18
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Viper550big model of technetium is by/sa/nc, and essay is dual by/sa and GFDL18:28
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paulproteusnkinkade, ping re: your phone call18:36
paulproteushttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/Video_bumper_guidelines18:36
paulproteushttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/Marking_Video18:36
paulproteusthere18:36
paulproteusnkinkade, ^^18:36
* Bovinity nods18:37
Bovinitymarking_video is defacto18:37
paulproteusThose link t the nice http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC_video_bumpers and http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User_submitted_bumpers18:37
paulproteusMarking_Video is the good one.18:37
CIA-5paulproteus * r9449 /pywikipedia/trunk/for_category_member.py: Write this with regexes, the way it should have been written at the start.18:54
CIA-5nkinkade * r9450 /ccwordpress/branches/production/ (3 files in 2 dirs):18:57
CIA-5Merged revisions 9430 via svnmerge from18:57
CIA-5https://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cctools/ccwordpress/trunk18:57
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CIA-5 r9430 | bse | 2008-03-18 16:19:56 -0700 (Tue, 18 Mar 2008) | 2 lines18:57
CIA-5 Better looking comments.18:57
CIA-5........18:57
paulproteusBetter living through comments.18:57
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nkinkadepaulproteus: what do you think is the best way to serve the subversion repository ... svnserve?19:26
paulproteusNo one uses svnserve.19:26
paulproteusJust HTTPS's webdav is probably fine.19:26
nkinkadewith apache19:26
paulproteusHTTP with digest authentication (not basic) is also fine.19:26
nkinkadehttps isn't really going to be possible.19:26
paulproteusWell, certificates are twenty bucks a year. (-;19:26
paulproteusThat reminds me, I need to renew mine.19:27
paulproteusBut anyway, http + digest auth is good I'd say.19:27
nkinkadeWe are using name virtual hosts, all have the same IP.19:27
paulproteusBasic auth just sucks so much I want it to wither away and die.19:28
nkinkadeSo SSL isn't compat  with named based virtual hosting.  though we could split this new vhost off.19:28
nkinkadeand make it IP based, but it would be the only host on the machine that could do SSL.19:28
paulproteusYeah, for SSL what I do is just pick a vhost and buy a certificate for it.19:28
paulproteusBut obviously it can only cover one name.19:28
nkinkadeWell, for the time being I'll do it non SSL.19:28
paulproteusSure, and digest auth really isn't bad.19:29
nkinkadeOr better yet I'll use the snake oil certificate that comes with Apache.19:29
paulproteusErmp.19:29
paulproteusthat < good19:29
nkinkadeI was kidding.19:29
paulproteusI think I'll use that snake oil in the bathtub as a body wash.19:29
nkinkade2 in one: body wash / secure communication, what could be better.19:32
paulproteusSnake oil: 1. http://www.allaboutbanjos.com/SnakeOilGirl.jpg 2. http://www.chem1.com/CQ/snakeoilman2L.jpg 3. http://homerderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/snake-oil.jpg19:34
nkinkadebanjo salve must be good stuff.  i wonder what else it's good for.19:36
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paulproteusThey're probably just watering down the RAW POWER of snake oil.19:36
nkinkadehttp://www.whitetreeaz.com/vintage/salve.htm: "Our Banjo Salve is made from the finest ingedients, gathered at great expense from all over the world, and mixed with care and kindness into a Solution that will serve your needs at any time, any place, and any where!"19:36
paulproteushttp://www.whitetreeaz.com/vintage/catlube.gif is on that page.19:36
paulproteusIt's very interesting.19:36
nkinkadeapparently it serves your needs any time, any place, any where.19:37
BovinityREAL ULTIMATE POWER, of snake oil.19:37
paulproteushttp://www.whitetreeaz.com/vintage/tract.htm19:37
nkinkadeso, I answered my own question.  It's good for any thing, and all things.19:37
paulproteushttp://www.whitetreeaz.com/vintage/vicious.htm more banjo19:37
paulproteusc.f. http://esr.ibiblio.org/index.php?p=13519:38
paulproteusc.f. also http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5001/5001_01.asp19:38
Bovinitythe elder gods are coming! with banjoes!19:38
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paulproteusFinally, http://www.coyotos.org/pipermail/coyotos-dev/2008-March/001527.html19:40
nkinkadeI love how they lump programmers in with other sordid types like banjo players and rock musicians who rob women of their "tender Womanhood"19:40
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CIA-5paulproteus * r9451 /pywikipedia/trunk/for_category_member.py: properly handle }} if it was eaten by the format1..5 splitting and cleaning-up19:51
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