Thursday, 2007-08-16

CIA-39mtravers * r6753 /scicom/mta/trunk/scicom/mta_web/static/chooser.js: embedded chooser has to go to sciencecommons.org for mesh queries00:42
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CIA-39mtravers * r6754 /scicom/mta/trunk/scicom/mta_web/static/ (chooser.js ext/resources/css/reset-min-custom.css): undo last change, I was braindamaged, and include missing css file01:39
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paulproteustannewt, Want liblicense debs to go into Debian?13:32
tannewtpaulproteus, sure13:32
* paulproteus reads http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html first13:32
rejondudes, flaky ppl on the meetings13:36
rejonjakin and tannewt13:36
rejonneed to move our meeting back to the afternoon...arg13:36
jakin:-/13:37
jakink13:37
tannewtrejon, fine, just expect less work from me today :-P13:37
tannewtrejon, I'm waiting for feedback, although I have some cleanup to do before submitting patches13:37
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paulproteustannewt, sandwiches/soup lunch? http://www.yelp.com/biz/dGhosKpjEmxUFcYbzhMRsg or http://www.sellersmarkets.com/ (latter is more expensive but supposedly awesome)15:09
paulproteusIn fact, looking at now, I think I'll go to the latter.15:10
tannewtpaulproteus, is that the group consensus?15:10
paulproteusThere's no consensus, just me talking.15:10
paulproteusLatter is also closer.15:11
paulproteusThat's not a rule of my life.15:12
tannewtpaulproteus, I can make do with whatever but I had curry hopes15:12
tannewtpaulproteus, I need cameron here to push it that way15:12
* paulproteus sighs longingly for cameron's moustache15:13
paulproteus^W^H^H15:13
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CIA-39tannewt * r6755 /liblicense-sugar/trunk/src/sugar.py: Licenses now set and updated as necessary.16:58
rejonpaulproteus: did mike say to make the jsWidget to allow for a function to enable the jurisdiction ish?17:05
rejon(trying to reply to these emails)17:05
paulproteusrejon, Don't quite understand your question.17:25
paulproteusHe said that if they complain about the CSS approach, then we should do it via a query string to complete.js like the current language selection.17:25
paulproteustannewt, exempi is nearly in Debian.  (It's uploaded waiting for some verification from the archive maintainers who have to approve every new package.)17:26
tannewtpaulproteus, nice17:26
bovinityCSS approach is bad17:28
bovinityturn off css, and whoop, it appears!17:28
* paulproteus grins17:28
paulproteusInsert random JS and whoop, the widget changes!17:28
paulproteusOkay, not the same thing. (-:17:28
CIA-39tannewt * r6756 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/default-content-license.in: Removed frame around LicenseWidget.17:29
tannewtjakin, I've been so out of liblicense developments17:31
jakintannewt, have there been developments?17:31
tannewtjakin, well, I didn't have the translation stuff or see that license has a --remove17:32
jakinhehe, yeah, that was from before I went down there17:32
tannewtjakin, I see, I'm looking at the log17:33
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paulproteusjakin, BTW, in keeping with the Debian Python Policy, the Debian package for liblicense will be called python-liblicense.17:35
* paulproteus is seeing how close to release-quality packages he can get17:35
tannewtpaulproteus, shouldn't that only do the python part of liblicense?17:35
paulproteustannewt, Yes!  I just meant the Python bindings.17:36
tannewtpaulproteus, okay, :-D17:36
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paulproteustannewt, Hey, when you compile with --enable-debug-code, does it compile for you?17:46
tannewtpaulproteus, let me see17:47
paulproteusliblicense 0.3, that is.17:47
tannewtoh... uh17:47
paulproteusIt nearly does, but I think you need to add "-ldl" to the linker flags.17:47
tannewtpaulproteus, I think jason had that problem17:48
* tannewt tries17:48
paulproteusDebian policy has everything built in debug mode and strips symbols at package processing time rather than by not building them in the package in the first place.17:49
jakinthere's a configure check for dlopen, so i don't know why it doesn't end up adding that lib17:49
paulproteusIt only breaks with --enable-debug-code, btw.17:50
paulproteusWhoa, --enable-debug-code also breaks Python includes, it seems...?17:50
paulproteusNo, I think I'm wrong about the Python claim.17:51
paulproteus(-:17:51
tannewtpaulproteus, compiles for me17:51
paulproteusYeah, works for me right now too.17:55
paulproteusI did change something; let me isolate the change that mattered.17:55
paulproteusThere seems to be some conflict with specifying a CFLAGS variable in the environment.17:57
paulproteusThat problem only seems to affect the Python bindings.17:58
paulproteustannewt, jakin, any ideas?  if you do:17:59
paulproteusEr, wait, tty in a few minutes.17:59
paulproteus./configure --prefix=/usr  --enable-debug-code   LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,defs,-ldl"18:00
paulproteusthen "make clean all" fails on the Python code.18:00
paulproteusCan you guys reproduce this?18:00
* paulproteus wonders why those LDFLAGS are part of the Debian defaults18:00
paulproteusExcept for -ldl, I added that on my own.18:00
jakincome to think of it, my -ldl problem disappeared without me realizing it18:02
paulproteusTry enabling/disabling --enable-debug-code ?18:02
paulproteusCan you get it back?18:02
tannewtpaulproteus, why would he want to do that?18:02
jakini know the problem was after a plain ol' ./configure --prefix=/usr18:03
paulproteustannewt, To help me reproduce it. (-:18:03
jakinhehe18:03
* tannewt grins18:03
tannewtworks fine for me18:03
jakinpaulproteus, is this 0.3 you're working with?18:04
paulproteusYes.18:04
jakinah... i'll bet the problem went away when I split up the build system18:04
paulproteusHmm, okay.18:04
tannewtsvn.../tags/0.3/ compiles fine for me18:04
tannewtof course I never had the problem18:04
jakinso yeah, i never figured out why 0.3 had that problem out of the blue18:05
paulproteusHmm, "./configure --prefix=/usr  --enable-debug-code" now works for me, too.18:06
* paulproteus puts the LDFLAGs back in18:06
jakini blame autotools18:06
paulproteusWell, you could choose to not use autotools, but then when someone comes by with GCC on AIX 5.3 and wants to build without root privileges, I wonder what we'll do.18:07
paulproteus ./configure --prefix=/usr  --enable-debug-code  LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,defs"18:07
paulproteusThat fails needs "-ld" added to LDFLAGS, but without LDFLAGS at all it works fine.18:07
jakinthat's no reason to like the mess that autotools has grown into18:07
jakinit's great that it'll work on aix 5.3... but what about working on my own standard box?18:08
* paulproteus shrugs and smiles18:08
paulproteusThere are some other unified Makefile tools; is sbuild the name of one I've seen lately?18:08
paulproteusEr, no, it's not, it's something else.18:09
paulproteusscons + autoscons18:09
paulproteusThat's what I'm thinking of.18:09
jakinalthough, i'm not motivated to switch to and learn another system :-P18:09
paulproteusAlso, cmake <http://www.cmake.org/HTML/Index.html>.18:09
jakinliblicense-kde uses cmake18:09
jakinit seems cool that cmake can output a visual studio project.  that'd get over a huge hurdle in building on windows18:13
CIA-39jakin44 * r6757 /liblicense/trunk/po/Makefile.in: Fix 'make clean' in po/18:17
jakinwoot, i made a commit18:17
jakinwrong commit message... oops (make check was fixed)18:17
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paulproteusI guess I should try this on the new build system.18:26
tannewtrejon, when are we meeting?18:31
rejonsoon...18:38
rejoni have to recoup man18:38
rejonnonstop meetings today18:38
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rejontannewt/jakin/paulproteus/bovinity: ok, lets meet in 15 min18:43
rejon4 pm18:43
paulproteusCool.18:43
jakinalright18:43
tannewtrejon, ok18:44
rejonthis time 4 real18:44
tannewt4 sho18:44
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rejonjakin: what is your # again (msg me)19:02
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