CIA-39 | mtravers * r6753 /scicom/mta/trunk/scicom/mta_web/static/chooser.js: embedded chooser has to go to sciencecommons.org for mesh queries | 00:42 |
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CIA-39 | mtravers * r6754 /scicom/mta/trunk/scicom/mta_web/static/ (chooser.js ext/resources/css/reset-min-custom.css): undo last change, I was braindamaged, and include missing css file | 01:39 |
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paulproteus | tannewt, Want liblicense debs to go into Debian? | 13:32 |
tannewt | paulproteus, sure | 13:32 |
* paulproteus reads http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html first | 13:32 | |
rejon | dudes, flaky ppl on the meetings | 13:36 |
rejon | jakin and tannewt | 13:36 |
rejon | need to move our meeting back to the afternoon...arg | 13:36 |
jakin | :-/ | 13:37 |
jakin | k | 13:37 |
tannewt | rejon, fine, just expect less work from me today :-P | 13:37 |
tannewt | rejon, I'm waiting for feedback, although I have some cleanup to do before submitting patches | 13:37 |
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paulproteus | tannewt, sandwiches/soup lunch? http://www.yelp.com/biz/dGhosKpjEmxUFcYbzhMRsg or http://www.sellersmarkets.com/ (latter is more expensive but supposedly awesome) | 15:09 |
paulproteus | In fact, looking at now, I think I'll go to the latter. | 15:10 |
tannewt | paulproteus, is that the group consensus? | 15:10 |
paulproteus | There's no consensus, just me talking. | 15:10 |
paulproteus | Latter is also closer. | 15:11 |
paulproteus | That's not a rule of my life. | 15:12 |
tannewt | paulproteus, I can make do with whatever but I had curry hopes | 15:12 |
tannewt | paulproteus, I need cameron here to push it that way | 15:12 |
* paulproteus sighs longingly for cameron's moustache | 15:13 | |
paulproteus | ^W^H^H | 15:13 |
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CIA-39 | tannewt * r6755 /liblicense-sugar/trunk/src/sugar.py: Licenses now set and updated as necessary. | 16:58 |
rejon | paulproteus: did mike say to make the jsWidget to allow for a function to enable the jurisdiction ish? | 17:05 |
rejon | (trying to reply to these emails) | 17:05 |
paulproteus | rejon, Don't quite understand your question. | 17:25 |
paulproteus | He said that if they complain about the CSS approach, then we should do it via a query string to complete.js like the current language selection. | 17:25 |
paulproteus | tannewt, exempi is nearly in Debian. (It's uploaded waiting for some verification from the archive maintainers who have to approve every new package.) | 17:26 |
tannewt | paulproteus, nice | 17:26 |
bovinity | CSS approach is bad | 17:28 |
bovinity | turn off css, and whoop, it appears! | 17:28 |
* paulproteus grins | 17:28 | |
paulproteus | Insert random JS and whoop, the widget changes! | 17:28 |
paulproteus | Okay, not the same thing. (-: | 17:28 |
CIA-39 | tannewt * r6756 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/default-content-license.in: Removed frame around LicenseWidget. | 17:29 |
tannewt | jakin, I've been so out of liblicense developments | 17:31 |
jakin | tannewt, have there been developments? | 17:31 |
tannewt | jakin, well, I didn't have the translation stuff or see that license has a --remove | 17:32 |
jakin | hehe, yeah, that was from before I went down there | 17:32 |
tannewt | jakin, I see, I'm looking at the log | 17:33 |
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paulproteus | jakin, BTW, in keeping with the Debian Python Policy, the Debian package for liblicense will be called python-liblicense. | 17:35 |
* paulproteus is seeing how close to release-quality packages he can get | 17:35 | |
tannewt | paulproteus, shouldn't that only do the python part of liblicense? | 17:35 |
paulproteus | tannewt, Yes! I just meant the Python bindings. | 17:36 |
tannewt | paulproteus, okay, :-D | 17:36 |
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paulproteus | tannewt, Hey, when you compile with --enable-debug-code, does it compile for you? | 17:46 |
tannewt | paulproteus, let me see | 17:47 |
paulproteus | liblicense 0.3, that is. | 17:47 |
tannewt | oh... uh | 17:47 |
paulproteus | It nearly does, but I think you need to add "-ldl" to the linker flags. | 17:47 |
tannewt | paulproteus, I think jason had that problem | 17:48 |
* tannewt tries | 17:48 | |
paulproteus | Debian policy has everything built in debug mode and strips symbols at package processing time rather than by not building them in the package in the first place. | 17:49 |
jakin | there's a configure check for dlopen, so i don't know why it doesn't end up adding that lib | 17:49 |
paulproteus | It only breaks with --enable-debug-code, btw. | 17:50 |
paulproteus | Whoa, --enable-debug-code also breaks Python includes, it seems...? | 17:50 |
paulproteus | No, I think I'm wrong about the Python claim. | 17:51 |
paulproteus | (-: | 17:51 |
tannewt | paulproteus, compiles for me | 17:51 |
paulproteus | Yeah, works for me right now too. | 17:55 |
paulproteus | I did change something; let me isolate the change that mattered. | 17:55 |
paulproteus | There seems to be some conflict with specifying a CFLAGS variable in the environment. | 17:57 |
paulproteus | That problem only seems to affect the Python bindings. | 17:58 |
paulproteus | tannewt, jakin, any ideas? if you do: | 17:59 |
paulproteus | Er, wait, tty in a few minutes. | 17:59 |
paulproteus | ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-debug-code LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,defs,-ldl" | 18:00 |
paulproteus | then "make clean all" fails on the Python code. | 18:00 |
paulproteus | Can you guys reproduce this? | 18:00 |
* paulproteus wonders why those LDFLAGS are part of the Debian defaults | 18:00 | |
paulproteus | Except for -ldl, I added that on my own. | 18:00 |
jakin | come to think of it, my -ldl problem disappeared without me realizing it | 18:02 |
paulproteus | Try enabling/disabling --enable-debug-code ? | 18:02 |
paulproteus | Can you get it back? | 18:02 |
tannewt | paulproteus, why would he want to do that? | 18:02 |
jakin | i know the problem was after a plain ol' ./configure --prefix=/usr | 18:03 |
paulproteus | tannewt, To help me reproduce it. (-: | 18:03 |
jakin | hehe | 18:03 |
* tannewt grins | 18:03 | |
tannewt | works fine for me | 18:03 |
jakin | paulproteus, is this 0.3 you're working with? | 18:04 |
paulproteus | Yes. | 18:04 |
jakin | ah... i'll bet the problem went away when I split up the build system | 18:04 |
paulproteus | Hmm, okay. | 18:04 |
tannewt | svn.../tags/0.3/ compiles fine for me | 18:04 |
tannewt | of course I never had the problem | 18:04 |
jakin | so yeah, i never figured out why 0.3 had that problem out of the blue | 18:05 |
paulproteus | Hmm, "./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-debug-code" now works for me, too. | 18:06 |
* paulproteus puts the LDFLAGs back in | 18:06 | |
jakin | i blame autotools | 18:06 |
paulproteus | Well, you could choose to not use autotools, but then when someone comes by with GCC on AIX 5.3 and wants to build without root privileges, I wonder what we'll do. | 18:07 |
paulproteus | ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-debug-code LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,defs" | 18:07 |
paulproteus | That fails needs "-ld" added to LDFLAGS, but without LDFLAGS at all it works fine. | 18:07 |
jakin | that's no reason to like the mess that autotools has grown into | 18:07 |
jakin | it's great that it'll work on aix 5.3... but what about working on my own standard box? | 18:08 |
* paulproteus shrugs and smiles | 18:08 | |
paulproteus | There are some other unified Makefile tools; is sbuild the name of one I've seen lately? | 18:08 |
paulproteus | Er, no, it's not, it's something else. | 18:09 |
paulproteus | scons + autoscons | 18:09 |
paulproteus | That's what I'm thinking of. | 18:09 |
jakin | although, i'm not motivated to switch to and learn another system :-P | 18:09 |
paulproteus | Also, cmake <http://www.cmake.org/HTML/Index.html>. | 18:09 |
jakin | liblicense-kde uses cmake | 18:09 |
jakin | it seems cool that cmake can output a visual studio project. that'd get over a huge hurdle in building on windows | 18:13 |
CIA-39 | jakin44 * r6757 /liblicense/trunk/po/Makefile.in: Fix 'make clean' in po/ | 18:17 |
jakin | woot, i made a commit | 18:17 |
jakin | wrong commit message... oops (make check was fixed) | 18:17 |
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paulproteus | I guess I should try this on the new build system. | 18:26 |
tannewt | rejon, when are we meeting? | 18:31 |
rejon | soon... | 18:38 |
rejon | i have to recoup man | 18:38 |
rejon | nonstop meetings today | 18:38 |
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rejon | tannewt/jakin/paulproteus/bovinity: ok, lets meet in 15 min | 18:43 |
rejon | 4 pm | 18:43 |
paulproteus | Cool. | 18:43 |
jakin | alright | 18:43 |
tannewt | rejon, ok | 18:44 |
rejon | this time 4 real | 18:44 |
tannewt | 4 sho | 18:44 |
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rejon | jakin: what is your # again (msg me) | 19:02 |
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