Wednesday, 2007-08-15

CIA-39mtravers * r6745 /scicom/mta/trunk/scicom/mta_web/app.py: whoops, broke embedding00:50
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CIA-39kidproto * r6746 /cchost/trunk/ccextras/cc-download.php: fixed count name03:09
cchelpbotNew news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: Tools <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Tools>03:10
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cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: OnClassical relaunches <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7614> || Ten Car Train: CC-licensed short story site <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7613> || Tay Zonday to perform with Girl Talk <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7612> || CC citizen journalism site GroundReport re-launches; GroundReport TV launches officially <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7610> || PodTech Donates to CC <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7609> || A report from Science Foo camp (SciFoo) <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7608> || CC Salon SF on WED, Aug 8 from 7-9 PM: Bittorent, Fedora, Intern Presentations, and Free Drinks! <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7605> || Jamglue: Remix T. Pain, The Blue Scholars, and R. Kelly <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7603> || CC at LinuxWorld <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7601> || Humans, computers, and CC <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7600>12:10
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CIA-39tannewt * r6747 /liblicense-sugar/: New module for liblicense sugar widgets.12:49
CIA-39tannewt * r6748 /liblicense-sugar/ (branches/ tags/ trunk/): Standard svn folder setup.12:52
BazztyLet me tell an question: What is your opinion about an noncommercial stream of music and user created videos - The music will come from creative commons licensed artists and commercial artists - but nothing is commercial - no one can say: play Britney Spears - just good music - not an closed station - open to work together over an web operating Linux system - noncommercial and free like an bird - open to find the best music and to pla12:55
Bazztyy the best music - open to play the best videos from every one who say that his video can be streamed without commercial background - not to made new stars - just to make an good stream - the best stream with an smile to the music industry - no financial donation required - this is not an joke - walking every day one step forward - let me know what you think now - pls12:55
rejontoo bad the URL to the files in svn is lost with the CIA bot13:02
rejonor svnbrowse13:02
tannewtrejon, but its sooo much more concise13:02
rejontrue13:03
tannewtrejon, the channel is actually readable now13:03
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paulproteustannewt, It's a trade-off: Would you rather hear computers talk or hear people talk?13:09
tannewtpaulproteus, people, hands down13:09
paulproteusWell, argue with rejon then!13:10
tannewtpaulproteus, theres no disagreement13:10
* tannewt is doing the sugar integration the right way (tm)13:12
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rejonyah, much better13:19
rejonagree13:20
Bazztyno reply :(13:27
jakinis libgsf on the olpc's?13:27
tannewtjakin, let me look13:27
tannewtjakin, yes, version 1.14.3-4.fc713:30
jakintannewt, cool13:30
cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: partial feeds : full feeds :: all rights reserved : creative commons <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7615>13:42
CIA-39paulproteus * r6749 /wpLicense/trunk/wpLicense/wpLicense.php: removed explicit call to init() which should not be necessary13:45
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tannewtjakin, are you working on license embedding for the olpc files?14:13
jakintannewt, i've been looking into it.  i'm not sure how to approach it14:13
tannewtjakin, hmm, well the ui stuff is getting there14:14
tannewtjakin, not sure I reading from the right file, it might be different because of my setup14:14
jakintannewt, it looks like the manifest file changes aren't backwards compatible14:15
tannewthmm14:15
jakintannewt, so implementing the spec leaves us with an unreadable file14:16
tannewt:-/14:16
jakintannewt, it doesn't seem like there's much i can do at this point14:17
CIA-39tannewt * r6750 /liblicense-sugar/trunk/src/ (. sugar.py): Sugar CanvasLicense added.14:19
jakintannewt, hmm.  at what point are licenses embedded?  i'm wondering if i add a module to read and write a license.xml file to the opendocument files, will those changes be lost when a file is re-saved?14:19
tannewtjakin, at this point it happens in the equivalent of the file browse14:23
jakintannewt, you think it's worth me hacking something together?  at this point, I'd drop a new file, license.xml, into the opendocument files (ignoring the manifest).  although, on a re-save, i'd assume that unknown files like this one will be dropped14:29
tannewtjakin, well, why dont you wait until we meet with jon tomorrow14:29
jakintannewt, ah, and I also emailed cassio... hopefully he'll get back to me by then14:30
tannewtjakin, cassio?14:30
jakinopenoffice cc plugin guy14:30
tannewtjakin, ah, sweet14:30
jakintannewt, well, at least i've done my research now14:30
* tannewt wonders where the olpc metadata is stored14:30
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CIA-39tannewt * r6751 /liblicense-sugar/trunk/src/sugar.py: Added LicenseTool{Button,bar} and removed jobject stuff from LicenseWidget.17:32
tannewtbovinity, when you get a chance can you come give me feedback on the sugar integration?18:00
bovinitysure18:01
cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: Keepon the robot reunites with Spoon in new CC-licensed video <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7616>18:25
CIA-39tannewt * r6752 /liblicense-sugar/trunk/src/sugar.py: Added refresh after writing license.18:35
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tannewtpaulproteus, the olpc has no c compiler19:21
paulproteustannewt, Bundled, you mean?19:21
tannewtpaulproteus, yeah19:21
paulproteus(Is this actually faster than talking?)19:21
paulproteusUbuntu doesn't ship with one either.19:21
tannewthmm19:21
paulproteustannewt, Dorkbot?19:35
tannewtpaulproteus, no thanks, I want an evening of hacking at home19:35
tannewtliblicense runs (slowly) on the olpc19:38
tannewtyay for caching19:40
paulproteus(-:19:43
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tannewtits faster the second time19:43
rejonpaulproteus: sending out email to blogger19:53
rejonhttp://labs.creativecommons.org/jswidget/tags/0.9/example_web_app/19:53
rejonis latest?19:53
rejonalso, what is the dev URL vs the user URL?19:53
paulproteusrejon, When you wrote that down before, I wasn't quite sure it made sense.19:54
paulproteusrejon, Yes, http://labs.creativecommons.org/jswidget/tags/0.9/example_web_app/ is what you should be telling people about.19:54
rejonright, because the wiki url is the main one along with example19:55
rejonthere isn't a diff. between user and dev page, right?19:55
paulproteusThis is a product *for* developers, so that's right.  There's the dev docs (the wiki page), the example (also for devs), and the tarball of more examples.19:56
paulproteusThe tarball is linked-to from the wiki page as well as in SF.net releases.19:56
rejonok, sent20:03
rejonwho else should we target jswidget for20:03
rejonwe have wordpress, blogger and sixapart all targeted with it and emailed on20:04
rejonwho else?20:04
paulproteusSometime we should think about popular non-English services.20:05
rejonyah, need to target via email20:06
rejonany locked down services too20:06
rejonblog engines20:06
rejondid you blog about it on the main site20:06
paulproteusrejon, No, not yet.20:06
rejonman, i think that tech blog is no good20:06
rejonbetter to just blog about on the main site20:06
rejonplease go ahead and blog about it on the main site20:06
rejonasap and more often20:06
rejonwe need to get ppl. onto using our tools20:06
rejonwe are making this ghetto of tech content on the techblog20:06
paulproteusrejon, Thanks, I like the emails you sent out. (-:20:08
paulproteusWhoa, I just scrolled my alpine email with the mouse wheel.20:08
rejonalso, please email the cc-community list about20:08
rejonwe gotta get more ppl. to know what we are doing20:08
paulproteusAgreed re: get more people to know what we're doing.20:08
paulproteusAnd I agree about the ghetto, too.20:09
paulproteusrejon, BTW, it looks like "widget" in the TypePad vocabulary is something very different.20:17
paulproteusAnd that we'd therefore have to do something special for them, but I can Just Do That.20:18
paulproteus(Later.)20:18
rejonyah, just reply to those things if you feel comfortable20:19
rejonsent some emails about the ghetto problem20:19
rejonalso to kill old lists20:19
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rejonbombs away20:32
paulproteusmiamiphp seems to be the first casualty. )-:20:35
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