| WillySilly | paulproteus: I havent seen that show in a very long time | 00:27 |
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| e-star | rejon: yo | 02:22 |
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| paulproteus | Well, I wonder what's up with C-SPAN. | 06:47 |
| rejon_laptop | yah, they didn't get back | 06:48 |
| rejon_laptop | still | 06:48 |
| paulproteus | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/08/business/media/08cspan.html | 06:49 |
| paulproteus | "Mr. Kennedy said that C-Span would be fairly expansive in what it considers noncommercial — even use on blogs or Web sites with advertising would qualify." - I wonder if the hubbub against CC's NC stuff encouraged them to have their own license. | 06:50 |
| paulproteus | Or they could just choose to interpret NC the way they want to. | 06:50 |
| paulproteus | As far as I can tell no one has any actual information on what license they're using. | 06:50 |
| rejon_laptop | this is true | 06:51 |
| rejon_laptop | appears that they have just copied some cc language and added their own IMO | 06:51 |
| rejon_laptop | but, show us your code c-span! | 06:51 |
| paulproteus | As if people actually like reading legal code.... | 06:52 |
| e-star | haha | 06:53 |
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| e-star | rejon_office: yo | 18:25 |
| e-star | rejon_office: talking to the scribd guys right now | 18:25 |
| e-star | rejon_office: glad that they have CC support | 18:27 |
| e-star | rejon_office: and i just told them to change their terms | 18:29 |
| e-star | heh | 18:29 |
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| e-star_ | rejon: there? | 20:11 |
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| aphid | rejon: ping | 22:26 |
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| rejon_office | heya | 22:39 |
| rejon_office | aphid: so, how hard would it be to get a feed of the video from governmental proceedings? | 22:39 |
| rejon_office | pre-intermediary | 22:39 |
| aphid | Right now it looks like this.. There's 6 cameras on the floor remote controlled by gov't employees 3 floors down. They mix it, the NCI does the closed captions, and these are put together as a 'clean signal' to the press gallery. | 22:40 |
| aphid | if you have press gallery membership (and the accreditation process isn't easy), you have access to a hub room, from which you can get a deal with verizon (3 year contract) for AVOC to pipe the signal to wherever | 22:41 |
| aphid | c-span picks it up here, drops their trademark on it, and airs it. | 22:41 |
| aphid | congressional hearings (in contradistinction to proceedings) are a different situation | 22:42 |
| aphid | http://public.resource.org/public.memory.plan.pdf describes the above | 22:43 |
| rejon_office | whoa | 22:45 |
| rejon_office | have you guys thought about this? | 22:46 |
| rejon_office | have you blogged that? | 22:46 |
| rejon_office | you should | 22:46 |
| rejon_office | some cc folk are going to have meeting with them, just want to know about | 22:46 |
| aphid | we've thought about it a lot. we're working on getting some funding so we can do this full time | 22:46 |
| aphid | at the moment i can hardly keep up with the transcode queue | 22:47 |
| rejon_office | I bet... | 22:49 |
| rejon_office | have you guys talked with the congress 2.0 ppl | 22:51 |
| rejon_office | opencongress.org | 22:51 |
| rejon_office | aphid: It would be cool though for you guys to blog about this with how to make this possible, a public domain feed...ideally, the government should provide this feed | 22:53 |
| aphid | I'm on the Open House Project - we'll be bring a set of proposals and recommendations to Speaker Pelosi | 22:54 |
| rejon_office | cool...keep me in the loop about that...is there a url for that? | 22:55 |
| aphid | http://www.theopenhouseproject.com/ | 22:57 |
| aphid | you (or someone at CC anyway) should get on the listserv.. fascinating stuff | 22:58 |
| aphid | do we know what license c-span is using yet? | 22:58 |
| rejon_office | they haven't decided... | 22:58 |
| aphid | heh | 22:58 |
| rejon_office | i'm serious | 22:58 |
| rejon_office | so, pushing for more discussion about it now | 22:59 |
| rejon_office | which they are open too | 22:59 |
| aphid | PD-sharealike! | 22:59 |
| aphid | :D | 22:59 |
| aphid | be unreasonable, demand the impossible | 23:00 |
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| rejon_office | ha | 23:00 |
| rejon_office | ok, well, just wanted to touch base with you about it | 23:00 |
| rejon_office | otherwise, keep me in mind about open gov't stuff | 23:00 |
| rejon_office | i'm handling biz/community dev. for cc now, soooo...i'm your portal ;) | 23:00 |
| aphid | ok, the status quo is they claim © over everything but floor proceedings | 23:00 |
| rejon_office | yep | 23:01 |
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| aphid | carl malamud (who's on our advisory board) has been streamripping some of the commitees' realmedia streams and posting them on video.google | 23:01 |
| rejon_office | this seems like a good project for google to get involved with | 23:03 |
| aphid | did you see that opera/mozilla are developing native ogg/theora support in browser? | 23:03 |
| rejon_office | to get gov't content and post online directly through gootube, pre-license addition | 23:03 |
| aphid | <video src="house_proceeding_03-07-07.HQ.ogg" onclick="play()"> :D | 23:04 |
| rejon_office | very cool | 23:06 |
| aphid | rejon: are you still teaching at sfai? | 23:20 |
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