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| e-star | mlinksva: let me find out | 00:00 |
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| mlinksva | e-star, thx! | 00:11 |
| mlinksva | i'm going to go ahead and blog about the new "share" and "remix" icons and give FC.o (and hopefully the original creator, thus this) credit for the latter. | 00:12 |
| mlinksva | if FC.o comes to an anti-cc-using-blocks-icon later we can change it | 00:12 |
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| e-star | mlinksva: it appears that it was "some peripheral figure" | 00:42 |
| e-star | mlinksva: i think it's fine | 00:43 |
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| WillySilly | hi guys | 02:20 |
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| sylvinus | hi there. | 11:42 |
| sylvinus | is there a clean ccmixter logo somewhere? | 11:42 |
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| e-star | please digg this | 16:37 |
| e-star | http://digg.com/gadgets/One_Laptop_Per_Child_Project_and_Free_Culture_Announce_Free_Music_Project | 16:37 |
| e-star | gotta love gaming the system | 16:37 |
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| evanpro | mlinksva: so, what can I do to get you to support OpenID on the CC wiki? | 17:45 |
| rejo1 | outline the steps of implementing and providing links | 17:49 |
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| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: User:Evan <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Evan> | 17:50 |
| mlinksva | what version of mediawiki is required? | 17:59 |
| mlinksva | evanpro, | 17:59 |
| mlinksva | for your extension | 17:59 |
| evanpro | I started it with 1.6.x | 18:01 |
| evanpro | I think it might work with 1.5.x | 18:01 |
| evanpro | Oh, you guys are at 1.6.x | 18:02 |
| evanpro | Should be no problem. | 18:02 |
| evanpro | I also forgot to ask if you'll be at SxSWi | 18:03 |
| mlinksva | yes i'll be there | 18:03 |
| evanpro | Fun | 18:04 |
| mlinksva | any problem with the extension and upgrading mw? | 18:04 |
| mlinksva | meaning doing the 1.6->1.7->1.8->1.9 upgrade | 18:04 |
| mlinksva | will the extension survive in working fashion? | 18:04 |
| mlinksva | i'm planning to do that upgrade soon | 18:04 |
| evanpro | It's been fine with me | 18:10 |
| evanpro | Are you going to do the upgrade step-by-step? | 18:11 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: Reading list <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Reading_list> | 18:22 |
| mlinksva | evanpro, isn't that the only way? | 18:22 |
| evanpro | eh, it's possible to do it all in one go | 18:22 |
| evanpro | Theoretically it should work | 18:23 |
| evanpro | But most people do it version-by-version, just in case | 18:23 |
| evanpro | Especially if you're jumping three versions | 18:23 |
| mlinksva | in any case i'll install the openid extension before sxsw, or give me dirty looks | 18:24 |
| evanpro | I will!| | 18:43 |
| evanpro | Feel free to ping me if you need help | 18:43 |
| evanpro | I've been knocking them down this month -- Wikevent, wikiHow, LQWiki | 18:43 |
| evanpro | I'm going to bug the Mozilla guys, too | 18:43 |
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| cchelpbot | New news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: SXSW: Creative Commons, An Introduction <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7261> | 20:04 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: FreeCulture.org Launches the Free Music Project <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7260> | 20:14 |
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| paulproteus | bovinity, ping? | 21:53 |
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| rejon_office | free.free.free.free.free.jon | 22:23 |
| aphid | free.huey | 22:24 |
| rejon_office | freejon.org | 22:25 |
| aphid | freehuey.org would be 30someodd years too late, heh | 22:26 |
| bovinity | 1800.pharmecuticals.cheap.zoloft.freejon.org, right | 22:28 |
| aphid | heh | 22:28 |
| aphid | i think the free as in beer, free as in speech meme.. we need to add free as in the verb. as in to liberate from unfair enclosure | 22:28 |
| mlinksva | free as in the noun, eg, the negativland album | 22:29 |
| paulproteus | Land of the Freejon | 22:30 |
| paulproteus | And home of the rave. | 22:30 |
| rejon_office | yes, I want that domain...man, I hope its not taken | 22:31 |
| paulproteus | rejon_office, It's totally available. (-: | 22:31 |
| rejon_office | 1800.pharmecuticals.cheap.zoloft.freejon.org ? | 22:32 |
| paulproteus | That, and freejon.org. | 22:32 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus, wondering, do anon uploads and licensing work well togehter? | 23:18 |
| mlinksva | rejon noticed an illegal track already | 23:18 |
| paulproteus | Yay! (-: | 23:18 |
| rejon_office | yah | 23:18 |
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| rejon_office | i think anon. commenting, reviews will work, but too difficult legally to allow anon. uploads | 23:19 |
| rejon_office | there is no way to track down copyright holder | 23:19 |
| rejon_office | cc licenses without a copyright holder are kinda useless | 23:20 |
| rejon_office | plus, everyone is uploading anon | 23:20 |
| rejon_office | and, looks like the licenses on the site are not showing up | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | http://freemusic.freeculture.org/media/view/media/all - rejon - yeah, some don't. That's a shame. | 23:21 |
| paulproteus | I wonder if the DB is recording them correctly. | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | Luckily all URL uploads are generating a log message so we can reconstruct them if necessary. | 23:22 |
| rejon_office | the anon thing needs to be dealt with though asap | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | Meaning, you think we should stop allowing anonymous uploads? | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | SJ(@laptop.org) really wants anonymous uploads. | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to go offline in a bit and do something other than watch a computer screen | 23:23 |
| rejon_office | well, from wikipedian standpoint, they are operating mostly on tet | 23:23 |
| rejon_office | but would they allow a media upload that is anon. without knowing the legal status? | 23:23 |
| rejon_office | never | 23:23 |
| rejon_office | non-text is a bit diff. IMO | 23:23 |
| rejon_office | mlinksva: what do you think? | 23:24 |
| rejon_office | ok, I will follow-up with SJ and e-star | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | rejon_office, I think SJ would be much happier to leave anon upload enabled, even if just for the web link version. | 23:28 |
| rejon_office | you guys need to talk to a lawyer | 23:28 |
| rejon_office | ;) | 23:28 |
| e-star | paulproteus, rejon_office: we have anon uploads, but we are requiring email addys | 23:40 |
| e-star | heh | 23:40 |
| e-star | so not so anon | 23:40 |
| e-star | paulproteus: we should have anon for all | 23:40 |
| rejon_office | for all what? | 23:42 |
| rejon_office | that is good to have email address | 23:42 |
| rejon_office | just the enforceability of the license is unclear and/or how to give attribution | 23:42 |
| e-star | rejon_office: what's the diff btw requiring emails and having accounts? are you saying that we wouldn't be compliant w/ the DMCA repeat offender provisions? | 23:43 |
| rejon_office | I hesitate to say talk to a lawyer, but there are issues | 23:43 |
| e-star | rejon_office: we have fields for artist URL | 23:43 |
| e-star | rejon_office: we will unfortunately probably have to verify licenses | 23:43 |
| rejon_office | I think anon with email + url to original would be better than just pure anon | 23:43 |
| e-star | rejon_office: we were just afraid that people might be too lazy to register for an acct at the beginning..heh | 23:44 |
| rejon_office | also, that coupled with great policing community + policy | 23:44 |
| rejon_office | yah, I agree | 23:44 |
| rejon_office | I like the idea of no account | 23:44 |
| rejon_office | plus, mlinksva and I were discussing | 23:44 |
| rejon_office | someone could make a bogus account | 23:44 |
| rejon_office | paulproteus: you need to make a first time page too | 23:46 |
| rejon_office | for after ppl. register | 23:47 |
| rejon_office | right now when someone registers, it goes back to the main page | 23:47 |
| rejon_office | you can set this up in the global settings | 23:47 |
| rejon_office | would be good | 23:47 |
| e-star | rejon_office: any help would be greatly appreciated ;) | 23:49 |
| bovinity | does ccH send out an authentication email when you register? | 23:49 |
| rejon_office | ok, sure | 23:49 |
| rejon_office | username: rejon | 23:49 |
| rejon_office | it should | 23:49 |
| rejon_office | they might not have that turned on | 23:50 |
| rejon_office | give me admin and I'll poke around | 23:50 |
| rejon_office | ok, gotta take a walk b4 no sun | 23:50 |
| rejon_office | brb | 23:50 |
| bovinity | the result page after hitting the auth link should link to a first time page too/instead | 23:50 |
| rejon_office | e-star paulproteus: email sent | 23:50 |
| rejon_office | yep | 23:50 |
| rejon_office | they also need an issue/task tracker + mailing list for community to dev. IMo | 23:50 |
| rejon_office | IMO | 23:50 |
| WillySilly | hi guys | 23:52 |
| e-star | rejon_office: got it | 23:52 |
| e-star | rejon_office: we still have the dmca though | 23:53 |
| e-star | hahaha | 23:53 |
| e-star | rejon_office: those may have been test tracks? | 23:53 |
| rejon_office | ok, cool | 23:54 |
| rejon_office | just trying to keep on point | 23:55 |
| rejon_office | ;) | 23:55 |
| WillySilly | rejon_office: know when the chinese new years parade is? | 23:55 |
| rejon_office | tomorrow | 23:56 |
| rejon_office | ok, going on nnice walk away... | 23:56 |
| mlinksva | e-star, though you do have the dmca, if fm.fc.o is going to be a site folks (including olpc) are going to pull music from, it probably needs to be more proactively policed | 23:57 |
| e-star | rejon_office: love the community ideas | 23:58 |
| e-star | rejon_office: part of the problem, though, is that we're students and we're flaky..haha | 23:58 |
| e-star | mlinksva: agreed | 23:58 |
| rejon_office | e-star: open advocate students...the double whammy | 23:58 |
| e-star | rejon_office: it's like, you'll work on a project until you have homework or a final or...a party? haha | 23:58 |
| e-star | rejon_office: this is one of the perpetual problems w/ fc.o | 23:59 |
| rejon_office | your comments aren't helping sell the idea to me ;) | 23:59 |
| WillySilly | lol | 23:59 |
| rejon_office | well, ok, here's the best way to overcome student-itis | 23:59 |
| rejon_office | pick one thing, and do it well | 23:59 |
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