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| greg-g | hey nkinkade/nyergler, when I login to my openid account, the interface is different, this is expected, correct? Also, there shouldn't be any weirdness with loggin into sites that we've associated our cc.net openids with before, right? | 00:41 |
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| greg-g | I ask because I'm having issues with tomboy-online (but, as it is a new service, they could be having issues as well, so I'll keep this channel updated on what they find) | 00:41 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: I'm not sure. This new implementation was handled by John ... I'm assuming that the expectation is that it will be seamless. | 00:42 |
| greg-g | yeah, the new interface is a bit, uh, surprising | 00:42 |
| nkinkade | Maybe you can ping John tomorrow sometime? | 00:42 |
| greg-g | will do, thanks nkinkade | 00:42 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 00:42 |
| nkinkade | Sorry I can't be of more help. | 00:42 |
| greg-g | np | 00:42 |
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| poswald | Hello everyone... where is a good place to ask questions about the *copyright* notice when forking a BSD licensed project? | 06:18 |
| nevyn | 3 clause or 4 clause? | 06:19 |
| poswald | I think it's 3 clause | 06:20 |
| poswald | let me make sure | 06:20 |
| nevyn | poswald: what's the problem exactly? | 06:20 |
| poswald | I found a project that may or may not be abandoned on github. I've forked it and am now making substantial changes to it | 06:20 |
| nevyn | you just don't touch it unless you change the code substancially and then you have a derived work so the most you can do is add your copyright to it. | 06:20 |
| nevyn | however you don't have to licence your changes as bsd nessicarilly but it's kinda rude to slap gpl on changes to a bsd project. | 06:21 |
| poswald | Right... I want to add an AUTHORS.txt and credit all of the people who worked on it so far, so I was going to change the copyright to (C) [original author's name] and others. See AUTHORS.txt for more info | 06:21 |
| nevyn | that would seem fine. however I'd attempt to contact the original authors and get their view. | 06:22 |
| poswald | OK... I don't want to change the license, I just don't really get how copyright works when the file claims one person has copyright but the history of the project has 2 or 3 people | 06:23 |
| poswald | it seems like everyone who has contributed something substantial has a copyright claim | 06:23 |
| nevyn | yes. | 06:24 |
| poswald | so i figure the copyright notice should reflect that | 06:24 |
| nevyn | which is whymodern projects have signoff and revision control tools with blame etc. | 06:24 |
| nevyn | but historically we've all just trusted each other for the most part and gotten along | 06:24 |
| nevyn | poswald: the copyright notice is probably technically wrong but the contributors were happy with it and didn't want to push the primary developer on the issue etc? | 06:25 |
| nevyn | poswald: who knows really but blah. | 06:25 |
| poswald | ok cool... I the contributors probably didn't even look at the license | 06:26 |
| nevyn | sure. | 06:26 |
| nevyn | some people are just focused on fixing their problem and pushing it upstream means it stays fixed. | 06:26 |
| nevyn | and not stressed about the whole attribution thing | 06:26 |
| nevyn | I mean I would be. | 06:26 |
| nevyn | but. I'm hanging out in #cc ;) | 06:27 |
| poswald | The original guy has "author: name" in many of the files so he seems a bit anal about ownership | 06:27 |
| poswald | :-) | 06:27 |
| poswald | I think the idea of a file "owner" is best left to the vcs personally | 06:27 |
| nevyn | git ftw | 06:27 |
| nevyn | right git blame to find out who wrote what. | 06:27 |
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| CC_Hudson | Project cc.engine build (146): SUCCESS in 5 min 13 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/146/ | 16:10 |
| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: Removing "Translations" link at top of deeds, per mike's request | 16:10 |
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| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Changing your->you hedre per diane's email | 16:28 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Removing phrase "if more than one", per diane's email | 16:28 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Changing license.mark.preview_waiver translation | 16:28 |
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| mralex | JED3: ping | 16:53 |
| JED3 | mralex: hey | 17:05 |
| mralex | JED3: see that Registration Link email? We need to get those old help pages back up today. | 17:06 |
| JED3 | mralex: yeah, im at the doctors office right now, but pulled out my laptop for that very reason :) | 17:07 |
| mralex | ;) | 17:07 |
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| paroneayea | mralex: hullo | 18:23 |
| mralex | paroneayea: i was just about to ping you | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | I know! The mind probes I planted in the CC office sent off a desktop notification | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | though anyway I was also going to ask you about the PDM images on i.cc.org | 18:25 |
| mralex | do i need to get you images? | 18:25 |
| mralex | also is there anything i need to do with the chooser? layout/css wise? | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | http://i.creativecommons.org/p/mark/1.0/80x31.png | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | http://i.creativecommons.org/p/mark/1.0/80x15.png | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | I does not has! | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | yeah there might be one other thing also | 18:26 |
| mralex | will get those to you today! | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | kk thx | 18:26 |
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| paroneayea | it sound like mike linksvayer wants the free culture seal on the new CC0 deed | 18:26 |
| mralex | that should drop-in | 18:27 |
| mralex | from the other deed templates | 18:27 |
| paroneayea | okay | 18:27 |
| paroneayea | I'll try that then | 18:27 |
| paroneayea | if it gets funny looking I'll ping you | 18:28 |
| mralex | word | 18:28 |
| paroneayea | and that's it afaik | 18:28 |
| paroneayea | thx for your help | 18:28 |
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| CC_Hudson | Project cc.engine build (148): SUCCESS in 3 min 32 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/148/ | 18:48 |
| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: Learn more link for no-endorsement | 18:48 |
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| nyergler | paroneayea: did you pick up that the CC0 formatter should start using i.cc.org/p/zero/... images? (it's in an issue, I think,just double checking) | 18:49 |
| nyergler | and that should be the new image from mralex | 18:49 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: yup | 18:50 |
| paroneayea | http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue652 | 18:50 |
| paroneayea | oh right | 18:50 |
| paroneayea | oh I guess I don't need to tell mralex, looks like he already did it! (?) | 18:50 |
| paroneayea | or at least, there are images there | 18:51 |
| mralex | huh | 18:51 |
| mralex | wha | 18:51 |
| mralex | i haven't gotten to PDM icons yet | 18:51 |
| paroneayea | mralex: oh, I was talking about the CC0 icons | 18:52 |
| mralex | oh | 18:52 |
| paroneayea | I think there are also supposed to be new CC0 icons | 18:52 |
| mralex | yes | 18:52 |
| mralex | there are actually. thanks fro reminding me. | 18:53 |
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| paroneayea | yup :) | 18:53 |
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| JED3 | mralex: is drupal using the cc theme now? not cc.20101004? | 19:05 |
| mralex | JED3: it still appears to be using 20101004 | 19:06 |
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| mralex | i haven't spent any time today looking into why. | 19:06 |
| JED3 | mralex: weird, it must only be using the tpl files from there | 19:06 |
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| JED3 | i just added a static file that was 404, until i moved it to "cc" | 19:06 |
| mralex | strange | 19:07 |
| mralex | it's still pulling CSS and JS from the dated directory, at least | 19:07 |
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| paroneayea | nyergler: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/PDM_FAQ#Am_I_required_to_attribute_the_author_of_the_work.2C_or_the_person_who_applied_the_PDM_to_the_work.3F is this the one I'm supposed to link to in the citation pdmark popup? | 19:29 |
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| CC_Hudson | Project cc.engine build (149): SUCCESS in 3 min 28 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/149/ | 19:43 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Adding learn more link to help_all_jurisdictions | 19:43 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Adding learn more link to help_publicity_rights | 19:43 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: What I believe to be the correct learn more link for help_citation_help | 19:43 |
| JED3 | hey paroneayea | 19:56 |
| JED3 | are you moderating tomorrow? | 19:56 |
| paroneayea | yo JED3 | 19:56 |
| paroneayea | yeah :X | 19:56 |
| paroneayea | assuming my reception doesn't flake out! | 19:56 |
| JED3 | noice | 19:57 |
| paroneayea | got something you want to discuss? | 19:57 |
| JED3 | well the staff updates script failed to send out the updates again this week | 19:57 |
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| JED3 | just sent you an email with everyone's updates, you might want to send that out to cc-staff | 19:57 |
| paroneayea | ok | 19:57 |
| paroneayea | JED3: do you think the JS is done both on CC0 and PDM? | 20:11 |
| paroneayea | just so I can see if I can check off that on my tree of tasks | 20:11 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: yessum | 20:12 |
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| CC_Hudson | Project cc.engine build (150): SUCCESS in 6 min 47 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/150/ | 21:12 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Uncommenting cc0 free culture seal, though it's not showing | 21:12 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: That tal:condition="license/libre" condition no longer applies with the new cc.license :\ | 21:12 |
| paroneayea | mralex: thx for the buttons, which I now has! | 21:13 |
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| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: CC0 citation help link | 21:22 |
| paroneayea | JED3: thx again for passing that along / reminding me to pass to the cc staff ml | 21:40 |
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| nyergler | paroneayea: can you and i chat tomorrow AM either right before or after the staff call? | 23:18 |
| nyergler | would like to sync up on PDM | 23:18 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: sure thing | 23:18 |
| nyergler | do you have a preference? | 23:18 |
| paroneayea | I'd prefer after since I'm running the call | 23:18 |
| nyergler | b | 23:18 |
| nyergler | i'll ping you post-call | 23:18 |
| paroneayea | kk cool | 23:19 |
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