Wednesday, 2010-09-01

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CC_HudsonProject deedscraper build (20): SUCCESS in 3 min 0 sec:
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greg-gnyergler: g'morning15:46
greg-gjust a friendly hello since we've crossed digital paths a few times already today :)15:46
nyerglergreg-g, morning :)15:49
nyerglerthe only bad thing about my xmonad setup is that i don't see when windows on other desktops are "urgent"15:50
greg-gnyergler: I think that is probably ok in the case of IRC :)15:50
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paroneayeankinkade: yo16:35
nkinkadeparoneayea: Hi.16:37
paroneayeaso I'm giving myself a headache trying to figure out the right way to go about the merging of these resources and wanted to run this by you16:37
paroneayeafrom the pdmark mockups to actually being checked into svn16:38
paroneayeahm, maybe this is silly to go into the whole thought process16:38
paroneayeashort question then:16:38
paroneayeawhat's the state of things checked into the www/ directory on
paroneayeahow are things checked in there, and how often?16:39
paroneayeanot sure if I'm making sense here16:39
paroneayeaI think I'm just going to checkout ccwordpress's www/ and make those changes here and then commit them.16:42
paroneayeaI actually kind of have things at that state16:42
paroneayeathings are kind of confusing for reasons that maybe aren't worth explaining :)16:43
nkinkadeparoneayea: checkout the entire ccwordpress repo, not just www.16:43
paroneayeankinkade: ok16:43
paroneayeaso things are kind of in a "dirty" state on, how often is that stuff checked in?16:44
nkinkadeWe implement things in trunk, which is what staging runs from ... then when we see it works we merge those commits to branches/production, which is what the live site runs from.16:44
paroneayeaexactly what I needed to know16:44
nkinkadestaging is not really in a "dirty" state ever, but it *is* where we test things.16:44
nkinkadestaging should probably not be totally broken for more than a few hours, since the jurisdictions may use it to check their translations, for example.16:45
paroneayeaah okay16:45
paroneayeawell there are some new files for this, and also16:45
paroneayeathere are some things not checked in on staging16:45
nkinkadeThat said, I never really worry about breaking it for a while and feel okay with being somewhat reckless for the sake of expediency. :-)16:45
paroneayeaso I was worried that if I put them on staging maybe I'd get confused16:45
paroneayeaas to what to check in and what not16:45
nkinkadeparoneayea: Yeah, don't worry about checking in things on staging.16:45
paroneayeawell, it's not tough to do the devwork here16:46
paroneayeaI've mostly got all the asset stuff taken care of16:46
nkinkadeIf I'm doing something really intrusive, then I backup the www directory and also the MySQL db, then I hack away.16:46
paroneayeaI think I will:16:46
nkinkadeIf everything goes to shit, then I just restore the backup.16:46
paroneayea - Finish putting everything in place on my machine, commit to svn16:46
paroneayea - svn up on staging16:46
nkinkadeBut that has rarely ever happened.16:46
nkinkadeReally, there shouldn't be too much on staging that is not checked in.16:47
paroneayea - ask alex roberts my last few questions about the deed css and have him look on
paroneayeaI think consistently in my career, the move from-mockups to-production-templates-and-asset-structure is always the most befuddling part of the devcycle for me16:48
paroneayeathough I like doing it16:48
paroneayeankinkade: so all new images should go in /images/ (maybe /images/deeds/ for some) and all new css and js go in /includes/ yes?16:50
nkinkadeparoneayea: That's probably a question for Alex R.16:50
nkinkadeI rarely upload images, so he's been the one who handles that stuff mostly.16:51
paroneayeankinkade: hm, okay16:51
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greg-gnyergler: is mlinksva responding to email today?19:10
nyerglergreg-g, he's in transit from the east coast19:11
nyerglerso probably not until this evening19:11
greg-gahhhh, ok. Do you think he wants to be a part of our call (either tomorrow or Tuesday)?19:13
nyerglergreg-g, no idea, i just sent an email19:14
greg-gok, thanks19:14
nyerglerhe has a slot open tomorrow @ 930AM PDT19:14
nyerglerbut if it's an implementation call, we can probably do a first round without19:14
nyerglerif we want to talk legal/tool details, we should schedule so that he's available19:14
nyerglergreg-g, ^^19:14
greg-gthis is mostly just a implementation/tech call19:15
greg-gnyergler: use CC's conf number (that I don't know?)19:18
nyerglergreg-g, are you asking if we can?19:19
nyerglerare you and john co-located?19:19
greg-gyeah, sorry, wans't clear, in a meeting righ tnow :)19:19
greg-gwe can be19:19
nyerglergreg-g, i can either call you, or we can call in19:19
nyergleri don't have any preference (although a one to one sometimes has better call quality)19:19
greg-gcool, lets plan on me colocating with john and calling your office/cell line19:20
nyerglerok, great19:20
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paroneayeaman it's been so long since I've used svn I forgot there's no staging area19:56
paroneayeaoh well, nothing serious, I just committed a file that I planned to commit next in a separate commit19:56
CC_HudsonProject cc.engine build (38): FAILURE in 3 min 17 sec:
CC_HudsonChristopher Allan Webber: Use staticdirect for cc-logo.jpg19:59
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paroneayeanyergler: nkinkade: JED3: cc tech call, 9 minutes?20:21
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nyerglerparoneayea, nkinkade, we're dialed in, ready when you are20:32
nkinkadeOne sec.20:33
nkinkadenyergler: Are you typing by the mic?20:35
nyerglernkinkade, yes, let me move the mic20:38
nyerglerlet me konw if that's any better20:38
nkinkadeSeems better.  Thanks.20:38
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JED3paroneayea: ಠ_ಠ21:09
JED3have a sec?21:09
paroneayeaJED3: uhoh.21:09
paroneayeawhat'd I do21:09
paroneayeayeah I have a sec21:09
JED3haha, that look of disapproval isn't directed at you personally21:10
JED3ooo much better21:10
JED3how about one thats whistling?21:11
paroneayeaꙨcꙨ ~♪21:12
JED3works for me21:13
paroneayeaꙨ◦Ꙩ ~♪21:13
JED3how about one eating a sandwich?21:13
JED3so have we defined a short code/representation of a public domain mark? like "CC BY 3.0"21:14
paroneayeaꙨcꙨ ☲21:14
paroneayeaI'm not sure about that21:14
paroneayeaI think it's just21:14
paroneayeayeah I dunno :x21:15
JED3haha okay21:15
paroneayeaI like pdmark, but the license code is just "mark"21:15
JED3yeah wondering what to use for the markings generated on the deeds21:15
paroneayea"Public Domain Mark" I'm afraid21:16
paroneayeaPublic Domain Mark 1.021:16
JED3k, cc.license will give me that i18n'd right?21:16
paroneayeaJED3: yes21:16
JED3mm kay21:17
paroneayea(although it's currently wrong)21:17
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vitorbaptistaHi, is there any effort to create ccREL schemes for the major FOSS licenses?21:18
vitorbaptistaI found CC's and GNU's licenses RDFas...21:18
vitorbaptistaBut couldn't find, for example, BSD, Apache, Mozilla...21:18
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vitorbaptistaparoneayea: Thanks21:20
paroneayeavitorbaptista: np.  There's no mozilla or apache though21:20
vitorbaptistanp, those are a good start :)21:22
JED3paroneayea: i should be able to cc.license.by_uri('http://pathtopublicdomain') right?21:29
paroneayeaJED3: I think so.  Maybe. :)21:30
paroneayeaJED3: by_uri and by_code are really shittily implemented.21:30
paroneayeathey don't query tyhe RDF.21:30
paroneayeabut I think I made by_uri work21:30
JED3paroneayea: ಠ_ಠ serious this time, no not really, j slash k21:31
paroneayeaI didn't do it!21:31
JED3so whats the most reliable way of getting a license object from a uri?21:31
paroneayeaby_uri *should* be it21:32
paroneayeabut uh21:32
paroneayeaI say use by_uri21:32
paroneayeaand we should make it work the right way in the future21:32
JED3paroneayea: aye21:32
paroneayeaJED3: if you have time21:33
paroneayeaI volunteer you to do it ;)21:33
greg-gre: short code, I've been saying PDM in emails21:33
paroneayeagreg-g: PDM is good21:35
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JED3Unicode Faces (Chris Webber) / PDM 1.021:38
JED3Unicode Faces (Chris Webber) / Public Domain Mark 1.021:38
paroneayea٩(•̮̮̃•̃)۶ +1 PDM21:40
JED3not CC PDM 1.0?21:42
paroneayeaCC PDM 1.0 does make sense yeah ☺21:42
paroneayeaJED3: when are we going to implement cc.license.by_convoluted_string21:43
JED3hah after i finish cc.license.by_natural_language21:47
paroneayeacc.license.by_natural_language("A Creative Commons license")21:47
paroneayeankinkade: if I want to svn up www on
paroneayeahow do I do that/22:14
paroneayeasince I get permission errors, or if I sudo as you I get prompted for your ssh key22:14
nkinkadeparoneayea: You'll need to have a public key setup for svn for your user on a7.  Then of course you'll need the right permissions.22:14
nkinkadeIt may be easiest to use su to become me or alex.22:15
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paroneayeankinkade: could I just ask you lazily to do it for me for now ;)22:16
paroneayeasince obv. I don't have your passphrase22:16
nkinkadeparoneayea: Sure.  Or you could:22:16
nkinkade$ sudo su -c 'svn up' nkinkade22:16
paroneayeabut... the passphrase22:16
nkinkadeparoneayea: Sorry.  Forgot I had a passphrase on that.22:16
paroneayeamaybe it would just be easiest if you just paste your passphrase in #cc! ;)22:17
paroneayeajk jk jk22:17
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nkinkadeparoneayea: I just updated.22:19
paroneayeankinkade: great, thx22:19
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