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| greg-g | nyergler: g'morning | 15:46 |
| greg-g | just a friendly hello since we've crossed digital paths a few times already today :) | 15:46 |
| nyergler | greg-g, morning :) | 15:49 |
| nyergler | the only bad thing about my xmonad setup is that i don't see when windows on other desktops are "urgent" | 15:50 |
| greg-g | nyergler: I think that is probably ok in the case of IRC :) | 15:50 |
| nyergler | :)\ | 15:50 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: yo | 16:35 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Hi. | 16:37 |
| paroneayea | so I'm giving myself a headache trying to figure out the right way to go about the merging of these resources and wanted to run this by you | 16:37 |
| paroneayea | from the pdmark mockups to actually being checked into svn | 16:38 |
| paroneayea | hm, maybe this is silly to go into the whole thought process | 16:38 |
| paroneayea | short question then: | 16:38 |
| paroneayea | what's the state of things checked into the www/ directory on staging.cc.org? | 16:38 |
| paroneayea | how are things checked in there, and how often? | 16:39 |
| paroneayea | not sure if I'm making sense here | 16:39 |
| paroneayea | I think I'm just going to checkout ccwordpress's www/ and make those changes here and then commit them. | 16:42 |
| paroneayea | I actually kind of have things at that state | 16:42 |
| paroneayea | things are kind of confusing for reasons that maybe aren't worth explaining :) | 16:43 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: checkout the entire ccwordpress repo, not just www. | 16:43 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: ok | 16:43 |
| paroneayea | so things are kind of in a "dirty" state on staging.cc.org, how often is that stuff checked in? | 16:44 |
| nkinkade | We implement things in trunk, which is what staging runs from ... then when we see it works we merge those commits to branches/production, which is what the live site runs from. | 16:44 |
| paroneayea | okay | 16:44 |
| paroneayea | great | 16:44 |
| paroneayea | purrrfect | 16:44 |
| paroneayea | exactly what I needed to know | 16:44 |
| paroneayea | 8) | 16:44 |
| nkinkade | staging is not really in a "dirty" state ever, but it *is* where we test things. | 16:44 |
| nkinkade | staging should probably not be totally broken for more than a few hours, since the jurisdictions may use it to check their translations, for example. | 16:45 |
| paroneayea | ah okay | 16:45 |
| paroneayea | well there are some new files for this, and also | 16:45 |
| paroneayea | there are some things not checked in on staging | 16:45 |
| nkinkade | That said, I never really worry about breaking it for a while and feel okay with being somewhat reckless for the sake of expediency. :-) | 16:45 |
| paroneayea | so I was worried that if I put them on staging maybe I'd get confused | 16:45 |
| paroneayea | as to what to check in and what not | 16:45 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Yeah, don't worry about checking in things on staging. | 16:45 |
| paroneayea | well, it's not tough to do the devwork here | 16:46 |
| paroneayea | I've mostly got all the asset stuff taken care of | 16:46 |
| nkinkade | If I'm doing something really intrusive, then I backup the www directory and also the MySQL db, then I hack away. | 16:46 |
| paroneayea | I think I will: | 16:46 |
| nkinkade | If everything goes to shit, then I just restore the backup. | 16:46 |
| paroneayea | - Finish putting everything in place on my machine, commit to svn | 16:46 |
| paroneayea | - svn up on staging | 16:46 |
| nkinkade | But that has rarely ever happened. | 16:46 |
| nkinkade | Really, there shouldn't be too much on staging that is not checked in. | 16:47 |
| paroneayea | - ask alex roberts my last few questions about the deed css and have him look on staging.cc.org | 16:47 |
| paroneayea | I think consistently in my career, the move from-mockups to-production-templates-and-asset-structure is always the most befuddling part of the devcycle for me | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | though I like doing it | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: so all new images should go in /images/ (maybe /images/deeds/ for some) and all new css and js go in /includes/ yes? | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: That's probably a question for Alex R. | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | I rarely upload images, so he's been the one who handles that stuff mostly. | 16:51 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: hm, okay | 16:51 |
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| greg-g | nyergler: is mlinksva responding to email today? | 19:10 |
| nyergler | greg-g, he's in transit from the east coast | 19:11 |
| nyergler | so probably not until this evening | 19:11 |
| greg-g | ahhhh, ok. Do you think he wants to be a part of our call (either tomorrow or Tuesday)? | 19:13 |
| nyergler | greg-g, no idea, i just sent an email | 19:14 |
| greg-g | ok, thanks | 19:14 |
| nyergler | he has a slot open tomorrow @ 930AM PDT | 19:14 |
| nyergler | but if it's an implementation call, we can probably do a first round without | 19:14 |
| nyergler | if we want to talk legal/tool details, we should schedule so that he's available | 19:14 |
| nyergler | greg-g, ^^ | 19:14 |
| greg-g | this is mostly just a implementation/tech call | 19:15 |
| nyergler | great | 19:15 |
| greg-g | nyergler: use CC's conf number (that I don't know?) | 19:18 |
| nyergler | greg-g, are you asking if we can? | 19:19 |
| nyergler | are you and john co-located? | 19:19 |
| greg-g | yeah, sorry, wans't clear, in a meeting righ tnow :) | 19:19 |
| greg-g | we can be | 19:19 |
| greg-g | easily | 19:19 |
| nyergler | greg-g, i can either call you, or we can call in | 19:19 |
| nyergler | i don't have any preference (although a one to one sometimes has better call quality) | 19:19 |
| greg-g | cool, lets plan on me colocating with john and calling your office/cell line | 19:20 |
| nyergler | ok, great | 19:20 |
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| paroneayea | ohnoes | 19:55 |
| paroneayea | man it's been so long since I've used svn I forgot there's no staging area | 19:56 |
| paroneayea | oh well, nothing serious, I just committed a file that I planned to commit next in a separate commit | 19:56 |
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| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: Use staticdirect for cc-logo.jpg | 19:59 |
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| paroneayea | nyergler: nkinkade: JED3: cc tech call, 9 minutes? | 20:21 |
| nkinkade | Sure. | 20:22 |
| nyergler | yes | 20:22 |
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| nyergler | paroneayea, nkinkade, we're dialed in, ready when you are | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | One sec. | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Are you typing by the mic? | 20:35 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, yes, let me move the mic | 20:38 |
| nyergler | let me konw if that's any better | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | Seems better. Thanks. | 20:38 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: ಠ_ಠ | 21:09 |
| JED3 | have a sec? | 21:09 |
| paroneayea | JED3: uhoh. | 21:09 |
| paroneayea | what'd I do | 21:09 |
| paroneayea | yeah I have a sec | 21:09 |
| JED3 | haha, that look of disapproval isn't directed at you personally | 21:10 |
| paroneayea | ⚆_⚆ | 21:10 |
| paroneayea | whew | 21:10 |
| JED3 | hehe | 21:10 |
| paroneayea | Ꙩ◡Ꙩ | 21:10 |
| JED3 | ooo much better | 21:10 |
| JED3 | how about one thats whistling? | 21:11 |
| paroneayea | hurm | 21:11 |
| paroneayea | ꙨcꙨ ~♪ | 21:12 |
| JED3 | works for me | 21:13 |
| paroneayea | Ꙩ◦Ꙩ ~♪ | 21:13 |
| JED3 | winner | 21:13 |
| JED3 | how about one eating a sandwich? | 21:13 |
| JED3 | jk | 21:13 |
| JED3 | so have we defined a short code/representation of a public domain mark? like "CC BY 3.0" | 21:14 |
| paroneayea | ꙨcꙨ ☲ | 21:14 |
| JED3 | haha | 21:14 |
| paroneayea | I'm not sure about that | 21:14 |
| paroneayea | I think it's just | 21:14 |
| paroneayea | oh | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | yeah I dunno :x | 21:15 |
| JED3 | haha okay | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | I like pdmark, but the license code is just "mark" | 21:15 |
| JED3 | yeah wondering what to use for the markings generated on the deeds | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | "Public Domain Mark" I'm afraid | 21:16 |
| paroneayea | Public Domain Mark 1.0 | 21:16 |
| JED3 | k, cc.license will give me that i18n'd right? | 21:16 |
| paroneayea | JED3: yes | 21:16 |
| JED3 | mm kay | 21:17 |
| paroneayea | (although it's currently wrong) | 21:17 |
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| vitorbaptista | Hi, is there any effort to create ccREL schemes for the major FOSS licenses? | 21:18 |
| vitorbaptista | I found CC's and GNU's licenses RDFas... | 21:18 |
| vitorbaptista | But couldn't find, for example, BSD, Apache, Mozilla... | 21:18 |
| paroneayea | vitorbaptista: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/MIT/rdf http://creativecommons.org/licenses/BSD/rdf | 21:19 |
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| vitorbaptista | duh | 21:19 |
| vitorbaptista | paroneayea: Thanks | 21:20 |
| paroneayea | vitorbaptista: np. There's no mozilla or apache though | 21:20 |
| vitorbaptista | np, those are a good start :) | 21:22 |
| paroneayea | ⚀_⚀ | 21:27 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: i should be able to cc.license.by_uri('http://pathtopublicdomain') right? | 21:29 |
| paroneayea | JED3: I think so. Maybe. :) | 21:30 |
| paroneayea | JED3: by_uri and by_code are really shittily implemented. | 21:30 |
| paroneayea | they don't query tyhe RDF. | 21:30 |
| paroneayea | but I think I made by_uri work | 21:30 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: ಠ_ಠ serious this time, no not really, j slash k | 21:31 |
| paroneayea | I didn't do it! | 21:31 |
| paroneayea | ⚄_⚄ | 21:31 |
| JED3 | haha | 21:31 |
| JED3 | so whats the most reliable way of getting a license object from a uri? | 21:31 |
| paroneayea | by_uri *should* be it | 21:32 |
| paroneayea | but uh | 21:32 |
| paroneayea | I say use by_uri | 21:32 |
| paroneayea | and we should make it work the right way in the future | 21:32 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: aye | 21:32 |
| paroneayea | JED3: if you have time | 21:33 |
| paroneayea | I volunteer you to do it ;) | 21:33 |
| greg-g | re: short code, I've been saying PDM in emails | 21:33 |
| paroneayea | greg-g: PDM is good | 21:35 |
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| JED3 | Unicode Faces (Chris Webber) / PDM 1.0 | 21:38 |
| JED3 | versus... | 21:38 |
| JED3 | Unicode Faces (Chris Webber) / Public Domain Mark 1.0 | 21:38 |
| paroneayea | ٩(•̮̮̃•̃)۶ +1 PDM | 21:40 |
| JED3 | not CC PDM 1.0? | 21:42 |
| paroneayea | CC PDM 1.0 does make sense yeah ☺ | 21:42 |
| paroneayea | JED3: when are we going to implement cc.license.by_convoluted_string | 21:43 |
| JED3 | hah after i finish cc.license.by_natural_language | 21:47 |
| paroneayea | cc.license.by_natural_language("A Creative Commons license") | 21:47 |
| paroneayea | uhoh | 21:47 |
| paroneayea | CCLicenseError! | 21:48 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: if I want to svn up www on staging.cc.org | 22:14 |
| paroneayea | how do I do that/ | 22:14 |
| paroneayea | since I get permission errors, or if I sudo as you I get prompted for your ssh key | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: You'll need to have a public key setup for svn for your user on a7. Then of course you'll need the right permissions. | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | It may be easiest to use su to become me or alex. | 22:15 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: could I just ask you lazily to do it for me for now ;) | 22:16 |
| paroneayea | since obv. I don't have your passphrase | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Sure. Or you could: | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | $ sudo su -c 'svn up' nkinkade | 22:16 |
| paroneayea | but... the passphrase | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Sorry. Forgot I had a passphrase on that. | 22:16 |
| paroneayea | maybe it would just be easiest if you just paste your passphrase in #cc! ;) | 22:17 |
| paroneayea | jk jk jk | 22:17 |
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| nkinkade | paroneayea: I just updated. | 22:19 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: great, thx | 22:19 |
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