Thursday, 2010-09-02

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CC_HudsonTransifex robot: l10n: Updated Russian (ru) translation to 100%10:52
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paroneayea⚀_⚼14:29
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mralexparoneayea: ping16:34
paroneayeamralex: pong16:35
paroneayeaI was just writing you an email right now :)16:35
mralexparoneayea: i saw you had a CSS query for me?16:35
mralex;)16:35
paroneayeawell I stopped typing up the email and sent it with the attachments16:35
paroneayeaand I'll describe the rest here on IRC! :)16:36
paroneayeahttp://staging.creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/16:36
paroneayeaalso16:37
paroneayeahttp://staging.creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/16:37
paroneayeaso if you look at the diff sections I sent16:37
paroneayeamostly they had to do with the areas that would affect the normal deeds that I wasn't sure about16:37
paroneayeaalso there were things removed from the print.css one16:38
paroneayeawanted to make sure that was intentional16:38
mralexi didn't modify print.css16:38
paroneayeaoh, well there were some things missing from it in that directory16:38
mralexthat is, i didnt add any PD/0 stuff to it16:38
paroneayeawell anyway that answers my question16:38
paroneayeafor -print.css16:38
mralexthe No Copyright header is wrong16:38
nyerglergreg-g, http://labs.creativecommons.org/demos/pd/work.html16:38
paroneayeamralex: yeah, I think that might have been one of the not-merged parts16:39
paroneayeathe reason I brought these things up is also16:39
mralexparoneayea: i also made the deed content divs wider, if i recall16:39
paroneayeahttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/16:39
paroneayeahttp://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/16:39
paroneayeaokay16:39
mralexlookin at the diffs...16:40
mralexparoneayea: deed3.css.diff looks fine to me.16:43
mralexnot so sure about print diff; whatever version is in production should be considered canonical at this point16:44
paroneayeamralex: looks fine as in apply that diff?16:44
mralexbut i admit there probably should be some additions for PDM related stuff16:44
mralexparoneayea: +116:44
paroneayeamralex: great16:45
paroneayeathanks for the clarification16:45
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nyerglergreg-g, http://labs.creativecommons.org/demos/pd/pd.html16:53
akozaknkinkade, do you have any insight into this error before I pink the SMW list? http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:BrowseData/Casestudy?_single&Review_Status=Needs_full_evaluation16:55
nyerglergreg-g, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Public_Domain_Mark#Guidelines_specified16:55
nkinkadeakozak:  No, I'm not sure.  The db error makes sense, but not without more context.16:56
paroneayeankinkade: could you svn up staging.cc.org's www one last time?16:58
paroneayealast time, I promise :016:58
nkinkadeparoneayea: Done.16:59
nkinkadeIt only updated deed3.css16:59
paroneayeankinkade: great, that's all it should have16:59
paroneayeamralex: looks better now?17:00
paroneayeamralex: btw, http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/17:01
paroneayealook at those indenting headings ;)17:01
mralexwhat the what. hmm.17:02
mralexhmm, #deed-rights seems to, incorrectly, have "padding: 0px;" instead of "padding: 0px 10px;"17:04
mralexi don't recall if i changed that for pd, maybe i changed it in the wrong place if so17:04
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greg-gthanks for the call, nyergler.17:14
greg-gparoneayea/mralex: I can't read that fancy disclamer stuff in chromium17:16
mralexgreg-g: which fancy disclaimer stuff? which version of chromium?17:18
mralexi did most of the PD stuff in Chrome 5, so i'm confused why you'd have any problems with it17:18
greg-gmralex: http://grossmeier.net/files/stage-disclaimer-1.png and http://grossmeier.net/files/stage-disclaimer-2.png, using chromium 6.0.472.51~r57639-0ubuntu1~ucd1~lucid :)17:27
mralexhmm,that's strange.17:27
mralexdoesn't happen in Chrome 5.0.375.12717:28
greg-gweird17:30
greg-gmralex: let me know if you want me to do any other testing, I'll leave you be for now though17:31
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mralexgreg-g: i've noted it, but i don't have time to investigate right now17:32
greg-gmralex: understand17:38
akozakmralex, do you know if it's possible or recommended to scale images with css?17:41
akozakerr, not recommended17:42
mralexakozak: webkit and gecko can scale through transforms17:42
mralexbut it's not entirely recommended because you don't save any filesize, and the results aren't always good to look at17:42
akozakahh ok. that's unfortunate. thanks!17:42
mralexiffy bilinear scaling17:43
mralexbut for little things, it's not so bad17:43
akozakand iffy browser support17:43
mralexthe big three support it in their own way ;)17:43
akozakI wish you could just use max-width and tell it to preserve the aspec ratio17:44
akozakaspect*17:44
mraleximg width/height attributes preserve aspect ratio if you only specify one :)17:45
akozakoh yea?17:45
akozakthe more you know...17:45
nyerglerparoneayea, ping17:55
paroneayeanyergler: pong17:58
nyerglerparoneayea, just sent an email with some pdm details17:58
nyergler(read: changing requirements, again)17:58
paroneayeanyergler: heh, ok17:59
nyerglerthanks17:59
nyerglernkinkade, can you start caching /get on the API ?18:21
nkinkadenyergler:  Sure.  But why?18:22
nkinkadeOut of curiosity.18:22
nyerglerbecause people using it are complaining18:22
nyergler(per the earlier thread)18:22
nkinkadenyergler:  Right, but aren't the queries unique?18:22
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nyerglerPotentially, but not necessarily18:22
nyerglerif they're not passing in work information, they won't be completely unique18:23
nkinkadenyergler: Is this just a stopgap until we can figure out what is wrong with the API?18:23
nyerglerwe need to solve the underlying problem, but JED3 is out until noon18:23
nyergleryes18:23
nkinkadeAh.  Okay.  I'll enable it now.18:23
nkinkadeOne sec.18:23
nyerglerthanks18:23
nkinkadenyergler: Done.18:25
nyerglerthanks18:26
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paroneayeanyergler: so we are officially going with the old-style language selection on the PDM/zero deeds?18:42
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nyerglerparoneayea, yes :/18:44
mralex:/18:44
paroneayeanyergler: ok18:45
paroneayeamralex: sorry!18:45
mralexhmm, a css dropdown would fix the JS requirement.18:45
paroneayeasomething funny happens when I swap in the old-style language selection :)18:45
paroneayeathe "disclaimer" footer at the bottom gets a scrollbar ;)18:46
mralexsigh18:47
mralexis it online?18:47
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CC_HudsonProject cc.engine build (40): STILL FAILING in 11 min: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/40/18:52
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: We're no longer keeping the sidebar international dropdown.18:52
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: We should use the actual license title for the page's <title>18:52
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paroneayeamralex: Hold on, I'll push it over to staging18:59
paroneayeahehe19:02
paroneayeacwebber@a7:.../cc.engine$ sudo -u john git pull19:03
paroneayea[sudo] password for cwebber:19:03
paroneayeaSorry, user cwebber is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/git pull' as john on a7.creativecommons.org.19:03
paroneayeacwebber@a7:.../cc.engine$ sudo sudo -u john git pull19:03
paroneayeamralex: http://staging.creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/19:04
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CC_HudsonChristopher Allan Webber: Use the old language head style for the pdtool deeds19:04
akozakI get a scrollbar div...19:05
paroneayeaakozak: yup19:05
akozakok cool19:05
paroneayea<paroneayea> something funny happens when I swap in the old-style language19:05
paroneayea             selection :)  [13:46]19:05
paroneayea<paroneayea> the "disclaimer" footer at the bottom gets a scrollbar ;)19:05
mralexparoneayea: take out the overflow-y: auto;19:05
paroneayeamralex: ah ok19:05
mralexactually19:05
mralexno19:05
mralexadd to .pd #deed-foot: overflow-y: inherit;19:06
mralexunless the footer also goes all scrolly for non-pd deeds19:06
paroneayeathat fixed it19:07
mralexparoneayea: also in #languages; change width: to 90%19:07
mralexthat'll help the langauges box eating the entire page19:08
paroneayeawell, done19:08
paroneayeabut now it's a different size as the main box19:09
mralexclearly19:09
paroneayeawell, yes19:09
mralex(i'd still rather have the box at the bottom, with the languages in nice columns)19:11
paroneayeaI think we should separate out the languages part into a separate frame!19:12
paroneayea(also needs more comet cursors)19:13
mralexsnoopy cursor19:13
mralexwith stars following it19:13
paroneayea⍣⁂✯★19:14
paroneayea⍣⁂✯★⇖19:15
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paroneayeamralex: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/257785/ Should I move this from the template to deed3.css20:01
paroneayea?20:01
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mralexparoneayea: yeah20:02
paroneayeamralex: grape20:03
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CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: A-okay to remove that extra <h1> that said pdmark20:04
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Let's get meta about utf-8.20:04
greg-gparoneayea: have you changed your commit message style due to the fact that they are now broadcasted in here? ie: more jokes?20:05
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paroneayeagreg-g: I think my commit style has always been a little bit goofy20:07
greg-gparoneayea: ok, just checking ;)20:07
paroneayeanow it's just exposed to the public.20:07
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CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Include the is_rtl stylesheet if appropriate20:08
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Removing that <style> bit and moving to the actual css file20:08
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CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Removed RDF in the pdtool template and added it dynamically to the pdmark template20:24
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: More ltr/rtl attribute stuff in the pdtool template20:24
JED3paroneayea: what will be the URI for the pdmark?20:25
paroneayeaJED3: http://127.0.0.1:6543/publicdomain/mark/1.0/20:25
paroneayeawait...20:25
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JED3haha that works20:25
paroneayeaJED3: http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/20:25
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CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Remove that attribute since it's auto-inserted...20:28
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Just cleaning up a couple of these (legacy) overwritten attributes in the standard deed templates.20:28
paroneayeahurm20:31
paroneayeamralex:        <div id="deed-main-content" tal:attributes="class string:${license/jurisdiction/code}">20:31
paroneayeado we also want the jurisdiction code as the class for #deed-main-content in the pdtool style deeds20:31
paroneayeait won't hurt I guess20:31
mralexsure20:32
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CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Add staticdirect for cc-logo.jpg in normal deed.pt while I'm at it20:39
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Even more dynamic ltr/rtl stuff in pdtool_deed.pt!20:39
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Jurisdiction code as class for #deed-main-content in pdtool style deeds also20:39
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CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Translate no copyright21:49
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: ltr/rtl-ify #deed-rights21:49
CC_Hudson* Christopher Allan Webber: Marking several things for translation in pdmark_deed.pt21:49
mralexJED3: i'm free to meet whenever this afternoon, just let me know21:50
JED3mralex: awesome, how about in 15?21:50
mralexword21:50
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akozakman i had no idea our bandwidth usage was that high21:57
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nyerglerakozak_, that's only one of five servers22:23
nyergler(although by far the highest, I think)22:23
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JED3mralex: sorry havent forgot22:24
JED3need to send out this email first, then wanna head to the green room?22:24
mralexk22:24
akozaknyergler, how much attention do we pay to optimizing the images (i.e. getting lowest possible size for the indistinguishable quality)?22:24
akozak- the22:24
akozaki'm assuming most of the traffic is from the images?22:25
nyergleron that server it is22:25
nyerglerwe don't pay much attention22:26
mralexakozak: you should always try though22:27
akozakseems like at that level of bw a small % reduction in the image filesize could save us money22:27
JED3mralex: k, lets do this22:35
mralexword!22:35
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akozakmralex, btw thanks for the css height/width scaling tip. in use at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Case_Studies22:53
akozakthe problem I was having was that the images for case studies are collected as external URLs, not file pages on the wiki, so css was the only method I had to change how they get displayed22:54
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akozakJED3, http://www.pivotaltracker.com/help/thirdpartytools23:47
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