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| erlehmann | who is Bart Kay <bartkay30@yahoo.com> ? | 06:35 |
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| akila87 | Hi paroneayea, | 14:42 |
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| paroneayea | heya akila87 | 14:52 |
| akila87 | I sent you a mail about the menu issue | 14:53 |
| akila87 | I also have the same issue. | 14:53 |
| akila87 | I dont get the menu item visible. | 14:53 |
| akila87 | I didn't catch it before because I was using Netbeans to deploy the addon and check whether it is installing correctly when I adding a new build. | 14:55 |
| paroneayea | ah | 14:55 |
| paroneayea | fetching my mail, hold on.. | 14:55 |
| akila87 | so when I install it actually the menu items does not get update. | 14:56 |
| akila87 | brb | 15:02 |
| paroneayea | akila87: just got to your message | 15:13 |
| paroneayea | so your reproduction of the bug simply shows no menu items, rather than greyed out? | 15:13 |
| paroneayea | the netbeans-masking-the-problem is interesting | 15:13 |
| akila87 | ya | 15:15 |
| paroneayea | I guess if I can reproduce the greyed-out-menu I should send you the addons.xcu file? | 15:16 |
| akila87 | sure | 15:16 |
| akila87 | I found similar issue in another addon | 15:16 |
| paroneayea | I probably should have moved the .openoffice.org directory instead of rm -rf 'ing it | 15:16 |
| paroneayea | so do you think it is a bug in openoffice? | 15:16 |
| akila87 | http://code.google.com/p/ooo2gd/wiki/KnownIssues | 15:17 |
| akila87 | I think it a bug in the ubuntu version. | 15:17 |
| akila87 | sorry ubuntu version of oo | 15:17 |
| paroneayea | 2) On some Ubuntu/Kubunut (probably also on some other non-windows systems) AddOn menu "Google Docs" is visible but nothing happens then we try to click on options from this menu. If we look to console we may find information about error like this "Exception in thread "Thread-49" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit:". This problem is probably caused by the fact that instead of Sun Java OpenOffice.org.org use GCJ to run Java | 15:17 |
| paroneayea | programs. To resolve this problem change used JVM to Sun Java (Menu Tools -> Options -> Java, and select Sun Java 1.6) | 15:17 |
| paroneayea | ah | 15:17 |
| akila87 | because ubuntu is not using the OO from sun | 15:18 |
| paroneayea | and also it looks like the "missing menu" issue is a separate issue from the "greyed out menu" issue? | 15:18 |
| paroneayea | (or is it?) | 15:18 |
| akila87 | ya. i'm confused. | 15:18 |
| paroneayea | that document seems to suggest that the greyed out menu arises when using the gnu compiler for java rather than the sun jvm | 15:19 |
| paroneayea | but that doesn't make sense to me | 15:19 |
| paroneayea | because why would removing the .openoffice.org directory and reinstalling fix it? | 15:19 |
| paroneayea | oh unless | 15:19 |
| paroneayea | I probably ran openoffice for the first time before I installed the sun java vm | 15:19 |
| paroneayea | so it may have defaulted to the gnu stuff | 15:20 |
| paroneayea | and removing the .openoffice.org directory switched it so that it defaulted to sun java vm | 15:20 |
| akila87 | yes I think so. | 15:20 |
| akila87 | and another thing, I had installed openoffice.org on 9.04 | 15:21 |
| akila87 | before im testing this. | 15:21 |
| akila87 | I just reminded that. | 15:21 |
| paroneayea | so we think we may have found the cause of the greyed out menu, we should test if that's true | 15:22 |
| paroneayea | maybe we won't be able to find a fix for it but we could at least add a FAQ entry telling people how to switch to using the sun vm | 15:22 |
| akila87 | yes | 15:22 |
| paroneayea | so that's apparently problem #1 of 2 | 15:23 |
| paroneayea | as for the missing menuy | 15:23 |
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| akila87 | and I think the problem with mac also with java | 15:23 |
| akila87 | http://eng-przemelek.blogspot.com/2009/03/openofficeorg2googledocs-and-apple.html | 15:23 |
| paroneayea | so that's another dependency issue of sorts :) | 15:24 |
| akila87 | ya :) | 15:25 |
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| akila87 | I'm going to install openoffice.org on this (10.04) lets check whether it fix the issue. | 15:26 |
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| akila87 | But still we have some thing to be happy :) | 15:31 |
| akila87 | I forgot to tell you http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://openoffice.magenta-aps.dk/cliparts-lokalt-eller-online&sl=auto&tl=en | 15:31 |
| akila87 | http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.skolekonsulenterne.dk/Infoweb/Indhold/Links/Clipart.htm&sl=auto&tl=en | 15:32 |
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| akila87 | paroneayea looks like installing openoffice.org does not fix the problem | 15:42 |
| akila87 | for both ccooo and that addon. | 15:43 |
| paroneayea | akila87: oh nice :) | 15:44 |
| akila87 | no no said it does not. | 15:44 |
| akila87 | I said it does not :( | 15:45 |
| akila87 | but still installing a addon after installing ccooo will enable the menu. | 15:45 |
| paroneayea | oh I was responding to those blogposts | 15:45 |
| akila87 | ah :) | 15:45 |
| paroneayea | ;) | 15:46 |
| akila87 | and I think it is the only workaround we have. | 15:46 |
| akila87 | but the problem is it is working on 9.04 without any issue after installing openoffice.org , java common and sun java. | 15:48 |
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| mlinksva | hi | 15:52 |
| paroneayea | hi. | 15:52 |
| paroneayea | mlinksva: so the problem seems to be that http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/1.5/details?license-uri=http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/se/ isn't resolving | 15:52 |
| paroneayea | I'm going to try and look at the server and see if I can figure out why, though that's john's territory | 15:53 |
| paroneayea | I haven't really messed with the api or its install before | 15:53 |
| paroneayea | (though I should for staff failover purposes :)) | 15:53 |
| mlinksva | ok | 15:54 |
| mlinksva | also nkinkade the main site seems really slow right now | 15:54 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: Hmm. Let me see. | 15:54 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: I think thedre's something wrong with a8 | 15:54 |
| paroneayea | which is taking down the api | 15:54 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Do you mean something wrong with the machine, systemically? | 15:55 |
| nkinkade | Or just something wrong the API? | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | the latter | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | I should have said "on a8" | 15:55 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: CC.org loads fine and quickly for me. What are you seeing? | 15:56 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/1.5/details?license-uri=http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/se/ is 404'ing and taking out your php scripts | 15:56 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: that link doesn't 404 for me. | 15:56 |
| paroneayea | mlinksva pasted me http://dpaste.com/222420/ | 15:56 |
| paroneayea | huh strange | 15:57 |
| paroneayea | it's working now | 15:57 |
| mlinksva | and causing timeouts or errors on eg http://creativecommons.org/international/se/ | 15:57 |
| paroneayea | I think it's only working sporadically | 15:57 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: try refreshing | 15:57 |
| paroneayea | it worked then died for me | 15:57 |
| nkinkade | Still works even with a refresh. | 15:58 |
| nkinkade | I assume John isn't in yet. | 15:58 |
| paroneayea | well try refreshing several times :) | 15:58 |
| nkinkade | I know he we launching /staging/ to /dev/ yesterday, but I'm not sure how that might have affected /1.5/ | 15:58 |
| paroneayea | it seems to sometimes work and sometimes not. | 15:58 |
| paroneayea | ah | 15:58 |
| paroneayea | yes that could be relevant | 15:58 |
| mlinksva | i guess it is a longer term thing, but it seems crazy that those pages need to hit the api a bunch of times (i'm guessing that's what's going on) | 15:59 |
| mlinksva | i'm getting varnish meditations on most /international/xx pages | 16:00 |
| akila87 | paroneayea: I've sent you the addon that I used to test. Can you check whether it is working for you and try installing it after you install ccooo and check whether the menus are working. | 16:00 |
| paroneayea | akila87: sure | 16:01 |
| paroneayea | "varnish meditations" is a nice way to make stressful errors seem serene. | 16:01 |
| akila87 | paroneayea: thanks :) | 16:01 |
| paroneayea | mlinksva: I think the long-term plan is to make /international/ ccengine-run, but it currently isn't. In The Future I guess either we won't need calls to api.cc.org or at the very worst the pages will be cached | 16:04 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: not sure it'll do anything but I'm going to restart apache | 16:07 |
| paroneayea | there appears to be a defunct apache process | 16:08 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: I think it's just a cache issue of some sort. | 16:09 |
| paroneayea | ah | 16:09 |
| nkinkade | Some of the intl pages are showing those errors when clearly the URL is working. | 16:09 |
| nkinkade | I just emptied the cache in my browser and they display fine now. | 16:09 |
| paroneayea | the url isn't working though | 16:09 |
| paroneayea | it's very often not working for me | 16:09 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: It works almost all the time for me. I got one or two timeouts out of many refreshes. | 16:10 |
| paroneayea | every now and then when I refresh that api.cc.org link it fails | 16:10 |
| paroneayea | for me it's about a 20% failure rat3e | 16:10 |
| nkinkade | Something is not right with the API it would seem. But I know nothing about the API. | 16:11 |
| paroneayea | well I guess we'll just wait for john to come in | 16:11 |
| nkinkade | I think this will just have to limp along until John comes in. | 16:11 |
| nkinkade | Yeah. | 16:11 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: I don't know of any plan to eliminate the API from international pages altogether or to migrate that to cc.engine, but yesterday John launched a new API call that I'm going to use to upgrade the worldwide WP plugin, so that it only has to make a single API call for each international/ page load instead of 6 calls. | 16:14 |
| nkinkade | That should be an improvement. | 16:14 |
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| mlinksva | nkinkade, paroneayea see email about video conference thing | 17:22 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: I have a scheduled meeting with Ani at 4PM, but can look now too. | 17:24 |
| mlinksva | nkinkade, please do! | 17:24 |
| mlinksva | can you and paroneayea try to "call"? | 17:24 |
| paroneayea | mlinksva: oh looking | 17:26 |
| * paulproteus waves to mlinksva. | 17:26 | |
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| mlinksva | hi paulproteus | 17:27 |
| erlehmann | nkinkade, this morning i checked what wordpress does if i try to insert a video without my plugin. it just outputs an unmarked link. not rewriting that markup is not an option. | 17:29 |
| paroneayea | I'm not sure how/where I should be connecting | 17:29 |
| paroneayea | the email didn't seem to indicate | 17:30 |
| mlinksva | paroneayea, i thought it was in there, but let me IM you | 17:30 |
| paroneayea | ah ok | 17:30 |
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| paroneayea | I just got my headset-with-mic in the mail yesterday for the purpose of testing speech to text | 17:32 |
| paroneayea | perfect timing! :) | 17:32 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: hows the polycom looking on your end? | 17:36 |
| mlinksva | paroneayea, how's it going? | 17:37 |
| mlinksva | any luck connecting? | 17:37 |
| paroneayea | mlinksva: I'm having trouble figuring out what address to put in | 17:38 |
| mlinksva | can you ask nkinkade to tell you pvtly? | 17:38 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: see my IM :) | 17:39 |
| mlinksva | i can hear you papyromancer | 17:39 |
| * paroneayea assumes mlinksva meant me | 17:41 | |
| mlinksva | oops | 17:41 |
| mlinksva | yeah | 17:41 |
| paroneayea | I'm actually somewhat shocked at how high quality this seems to be | 17:42 |
| paroneayea | I expected like 2 fps or something | 17:42 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: i propose that you change your irc name to paaroneayea | 17:42 |
| paroneayea | it looks smooth and the sound sounds pretty great | 17:42 |
| paroneayea | ha | 17:42 |
| JED3 | so we can tab complete only on 'p' | 17:42 |
| mlinksva | nkinkade, any luck reconnecting? | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | I get a message "Remote user rejected the call" | 17:47 |
| mlinksva | bummer | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | Does the system support having multiple H.323 sessions active? | 17:47 |
| mlinksva | i guess it can only have one caller at a time | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, as soon as paroneayea connected, I started getting rejected. | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | I wonder if that is configurable or a some limitation of the protocol??? | 17:48 |
| paroneayea | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2008/12/mingle-brings-group-video-chat-to-linux.ars | 17:48 |
| mlinksva | or maybe limitation of system we have | 17:49 |
| mlinksva | ah well | 17:49 |
| mlinksva | still very useful for bringing in one remote person | 17:49 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: There seem to have been some problems with the API earlier. | 17:56 |
| nkinkade | It seemed intermittent. | 17:57 |
| nkinkade | Requests like this were not working at times: http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/1.5/details?license-uri=http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/se/ | 17:57 |
| nkinkade | It's possible it was the rest of the machine, but everything else seemed fine?? | 17:57 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: i think its because of i dot | 17:57 |
| JED3 | i noticed elsewhere badges were taking forever to load | 17:58 |
| nkinkade | Ah. | 17:58 |
| nkinkade | That could be. | 17:58 |
| paroneayea | making a buildout recipe is a lot less complicated than I thought it would be. | 17:58 |
| JED3 | i was just about to look into it, but got caught up in this video conf stuff | 17:58 |
| akila87 | paroneayea: busy? | 18:01 |
| paroneayea | akila87: sorry, I was at lunch then I got absorbed with working on some stuff and this conference thing. I'll try to work on testing your plugin now but I'll probably be in a meeting soon | 18:03 |
| paroneayea | akila87: I should be able to work on testing it within the next few hours at least | 18:03 |
| paroneayea | assuming that's what you're asking about me being busy about :) | 18:03 |
| akila87 | paroneayea never mind. I think I have found the problem. | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | akila87: oh! what is it? :) | 18:04 |
| akila87 | are you using the extension that I have mailed to you and nathan? | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | akila87: yes the one you emailed me about a few days ago | 18:05 |
| akila87 | ah in /META-INF/manifest.xml try adding <manifest:file-entry manifest:media-type="application/vnd.sun.star.configuration-data"manifest:full-path="ProtocolHandler.xcu"/> before | 18:07 |
| akila87 | <manifest:file-entry manifest:media-type="application/vnd.sun.star.configuration-data"manifest:full-path="Addons.xcu"/> | 18:08 |
| paroneayea | akila87: okay, I will try that, i will have to "re-break" it though | 18:08 |
| paroneayea | is this for the greyed-out bug or the missing-menu bug | 18:08 |
| paroneayea | or both :) | 18:08 |
| akila87 | for both I think. | 18:09 |
| akila87 | the menu is grayed out because "ProtocolHandler.xcu" is not set before addons.xcu | 18:09 |
| akila87 | menus are not displying in my case because jobs.xcu is before addons.xcu on my local version. | 18:10 |
| akila87 | when creating the oxt netbeans changes this every time. | 18:10 |
| paroneayea | oh hm | 18:11 |
| paroneayea | so it's something about the netbeans build process then? | 18:11 |
| akila87 | looks like we can't have jobs.xcu before addon.xcu and this will disable the notifications. | 18:11 |
| paroneayea | oh | 18:11 |
| akila87 | this is only in ubuntu/linux | 18:12 |
| akila87 | in windows its not a problem. | 18:12 |
| akila87 | both configurations works fine. | 18:12 |
| paroneayea | so what do you think the solution is then? Not use netbeans for compiling? Patch netbeans? | 18:13 |
| paroneayea | include instructions to edit manifest.xml after install? ;) (j/k) | 18:14 |
| akila87 | 3 one is easy i think | 18:15 |
| akila87 | any way still jobs.xcu is not working. this is needed to speed up the license insertion and show notifications. | 18:18 |
| paroneayea | I just decided to try this on my debian testing install | 18:21 |
| paroneayea | the latest one you sent me via email today | 18:21 |
| paroneayea | the menu items are not pulling up the dialogs at all | 18:22 |
| paroneayea | so I guess these are a lot of GNU/Linux specific issues | 18:22 |
| paroneayea | ooo-build 3.2.1.4, Debian package 1:3.2.1-4 | 18:22 |
| akila87 | oh the Addon2? its just a addons it does nothing. I just used it for testing the menu. | 18:28 |
| akila87 | sorry! | 18:28 |
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| paroneayea | akila87: oh, well that's a relief then :) | 18:35 |
| akila87 | paroneayea: :D | 18:36 |
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| akila87 | paroneayea: what should we do? asking users to install another addon (just some thing like my test addon) they can remove it after they got back the menu. | 18:38 |
| paroneayea | akila87: there was some message on that Google Docs plugin that suggested toggling disabled/enabled could fix their plugin | 18:39 |
| paroneayea | I wonder if it could do the same thing for ccooo? | 18:39 |
| paroneayea | (toggling in the extensions manager that is) | 18:39 |
| akila87 | I tried that but it doesn't work for me :( | 18:40 |
| paroneayea | hm | 18:40 |
| paroneayea | well we could do that as a last resort, the install another add-on to fix one | 18:40 |
| paroneayea | though that's a serious hack to ask our users to go through | 18:41 |
| akila87 | or ignore Jobs.xcu? this will make first time license insertion slow and no notification when opening cc licensed images. | 18:41 |
| paroneayea | what does jobs.xcu do? | 18:41 |
| akila87 | it handles the open document event. and triggers the rdf loading. | 18:42 |
| paroneayea | ah | 18:42 |
| paroneayea | is there any way to test for it, and include jobs.xcu but ignore it as a fallback if things go awry? | 18:42 |
| akila87 | ya if we put protocolhandler 1st then addons.xcu and jobs.xcu | 18:43 |
| paroneayea | why don't we do that for now | 18:44 |
| paroneayea | that way things "work" | 18:44 |
| paroneayea | and things will be fast if things don't goof up but will still work worst comes to worst | 18:44 |
| paroneayea | and we can add an item to the FAQ that says, if things seem slow, try installing and removing this plugin | 18:44 |
| paroneayea | akila87: does that sound like the right route to you? | 18:45 |
| akila87 | ya i think its good option. | 18:45 |
| akila87 | so we will have the whole extension working in windows and important things working in linux | 18:45 |
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| paroneayea | okay akila87 sounds like a plan | 18:52 |
| akila87 | paroneayea: and If you can, try this one in mac also. I try to find a mac dvd. or download one. then I can test this on a VM | 18:57 |
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| akozak | nyergler, I've been killing myself trying to get these queries to work and I don't think it's possible to use #compound_query for what we want. I haven't figured out a way to generate the sub-queries, because they're separated by a pipe. | 21:04 |
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| nyergler | akozak, sorry to hear that | 21:07 |
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| akozak | nyergler, it's quite frustrating. | 21:08 |
| akozak | nyergler, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:RunQuery/Jurisdiction_Query | 21:08 |
| akozak | if you try it with two jx and two tags | 21:08 |
| akozak | you'll see that I can construct the query just fine (slightly modified for debugging) | 21:09 |
| nyergler | but it doesn't seem to run it? | 21:09 |
| akozak | but as soon as I correct the improper query syntax so that it parses, it can't get past the first subquery | 21:09 |
| akozak | yes | 21:09 |
| akozak | I think it might have something to do with the pipe being the separator, and I'm trying to use | as a delimiter | 21:10 |
| akozak | but I'd have to do that at some point | 21:10 |
| akozak | I'm even using the pipe-in-a-template trick for the delimiter | 21:10 |
| akozak | Sorry, mostly venting, but I'm open to suggestions | 21:11 |
| nyergler | I have no idea what you're talking about | 21:11 |
| akozak | its ok | 21:11 |
| nyergler | (wrt pipe as separator; i only see it as the param delimiter in that query output) | 21:11 |
| akozak | nyergler, in compound queries the subqueries are separated by pipes | 21:12 |
| akozak | hence the subquery parameters redefined as ; | 21:12 |
| nyergler | right | 21:12 |
| nyergler | right | 21:12 |
| akozak | so when I do arraymappings in various ways based on the form input, I have to tell it to separate the mappings with | | 21:12 |
| akozak | that is, I'm constructing subqueries | 21:12 |
| akozak | and they have to be separated by | | 21:13 |
| nyergler | i see | 21:13 |
| akozak | so as you can see, I've been able to do it | 21:13 |
| akozak | but as soon as I make it valid query syntax it fails | 21:13 |
| akozak | that is, I've modified the most basic mapping of elements so it isn't valid for debugging | 21:13 |
| akozak | [Has text should be [[Has text | 21:14 |
| akozak | and #compound query should be #compound_query | 21:14 |
| akozak | anyway, #compound_query doesn't seem to correctly identify the sub-queries and sub-queries pas the first element | 21:14 |
| akozak | nyergler, you probably don't need to worry about it. sometimes talking about it helps me figure it out. I guess what I'm saying is I might have to abandon the single-table output | 21:17 |
| akozak | but I'm going to ask yaron about it | 21:17 |
| nyergler | ok | 21:17 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Were you able to update dev version of the API yesterday? | 22:02 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: no i didnt, but i just now updated dev http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/dev/license/standard/jurisdiction/ | 22:11 |
| JED3 | note that the url for jurisidictions are still incorrect for your use-case, which i'm fixing right now | 22:11 |
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| mralex | JED3: will there be some sort of remote api to add content to the new ccnetwork? (or eventually) | 23:22 |
| JED3 | mralex: what do you mean? a remote api to register a work? | 23:23 |
| mralex | to register and/or query | 23:23 |
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| JED3 | mralex: the query is already there, no plans for registering | 23:24 |
| mralex | the java licensing lib query on cc-devel made me think of Android related possibilities | 23:24 |
| JED3 | mralex: oh yeah? | 23:25 |
| JED3 | mralex: fwiw https://creativecommons.net/r/lookup/?uri=http://flickr.com | 23:28 |
| mralex | neat | 23:28 |
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| JED3 | flickr works on ccnet comprise 66% of all work registrations actually | 23:29 |
| mralex | which would make a cc mobile app more of a flickr search mobile app | 23:30 |
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