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| ea4xgr | hi | 13:58 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: do you know who is likely to be the mentor of the "attribution helper" gsoc project? | 13:59 |
| nkinkade | ea4xgr: I'm not sure yet. Nathan Yergler will me managing who does what, but he's at a conference in Kenya right now ... will be back tomorrow or Thursday, I believe. | 14:00 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: thank you; I was wondering where he is | 14:00 |
| nkinkade | ea4xgr: Check back here in the next day or two. Sorry that I can't give you a better idea of who's doing what. | 14:01 |
| ea4xgr | ok, regardless: who is in charge of wiki, labs (blog), and git? (in terms of setting up an account) | 14:01 |
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| ea4xgr | I have registered an account on the wiki and can create and edit articles, so no assistance is needed here, sorry | 14:39 |
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| ea4xgr | nkinkade: with regard to the Labs blog, I have registered and activated an account - who could authorize it, so that I would be able to post? | 14:57 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: with regard to git, I have a public key; who could authorize it so that I could commit to the git repository? who could create a new project in this repository? | 15:00 |
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| nkinkade | ea4xgr: I manage the labs blog and also our git repository, but I can't give you access until I have some verification from Nathan Yergler that you will need access. | 15:13 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: thank you | 15:13 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: would you mind if I talk to you in private about the account? | 15:14 |
| nkinkade | ea4xgr: Sure. | 15:16 |
| ea4xgr | :) | 15:17 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: but is it okay to create pages at wiki for the time being? | 15:24 |
| nkinkade | ea4xgr: Of course! | 15:24 |
| nkinkade | Please do, in fact. | 15:24 |
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| nkinkade | Hey JED3, do you happen to know anything about the disc and external enclosure Nathan has at his desk? | 17:01 |
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| akozak | JED3, started experimenting with processing.js last night: http://massthink.net/ | 17:21 |
| JED3 | akozak: kewl, did you make this? | 17:23 |
| akozak | yea, the sketch itself is modified from some other code that drew the horiz line | 17:24 |
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| akozak | but im gonna get back into processing and try to make a cool design | 17:24 |
| JED3 | awesome | 17:24 |
| mralex | hmm, nifty, akozak | 17:24 |
| akozak | canvas ftw | 17:25 |
| akozak | i wish it had better performance though | 17:25 |
| akozak | cc needs a futuristic license chooser where you have to zoom around and zap the license conditions you want | 17:27 |
| akozak | like tron or something | 17:27 |
| mralex | haha | 17:27 |
| mralex | we tried that once | 17:27 |
| JED3 | akozak: make it a GSOC proposal | 17:27 |
| JED3 | haha | 17:27 |
| akozak | haha | 17:28 |
| mralex | it looked pretty neat, but was functionally useless, of course. | 17:28 |
| akozak | mralex, wait really? | 17:28 |
| mralex | yes | 17:28 |
| mralex | except for the zooming around par | 17:28 |
| mralex | the tron part | 17:28 |
| akozak | heh | 17:28 |
| akozak | wow, is it still around somewhere? | 17:29 |
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| mralex | hopefully not | 17:29 |
| akozak | haha | 17:29 |
| akozak | mralex, is this it: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7252 | 17:30 |
| mralex | that's a version of it | 17:32 |
| * mralex cries | 17:32 | |
| mralex | i had a neater, more tron, looking version that was declined. | 17:32 |
| akozak | yea it does need more tron | 17:33 |
| ea4xgr | would you like to see the front page of Google powered by WebGL one day? :) | 17:37 |
| akozak | all i know is i wont be satisfied until the web looks like it did in hackers | 17:39 |
| mralex | or jurassic park. | 17:40 |
| JED3 | thatd be a great "top 10" blog post, the 10 best retro internet futurisms | 17:41 |
| akozak | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng | 17:42 |
| mralex | lulz | 17:42 |
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| mralex | akozak: of course, the internet in Hackers was riddled wiht poor security ;) | 17:48 |
| akozak | only for the 1337 h4ck3rz | 17:48 |
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| mralex | with passwords like "god", you don't have to be Acid Burn to hax0r the gibson | 17:51 |
| akozak | hahaha | 17:51 |
| greg-g | mralex++ | 17:53 |
| greg-g | They made such a sexy and awesome named team: Crash 'n Burn | 17:54 |
| jed | mralex: lol | 17:54 |
| mralex | greg-g: with those handles, it was meant to be :D | 17:54 |
| jed | mralex: looks like someone watched the dvd recently | 17:54 |
| mralex | haha, haven't watched it in ages :P | 17:55 |
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| akozak | hey nathany! | 18:21 |
| akozak | how's it going over there? | 18:21 |
| nathany | hi akozak, i'm at the airport in the "lounge", ready to be home | 18:23 |
| akozak | ahh | 18:24 |
| ea4xgr | hi nathany | 18:26 |
| ea4xgr | would you mind if I talk to you in private for a minute (I got redirected to you by nkink\ade)? | 18:27 |
| nathany | ea4xgr, sure | 18:28 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: since nathany "okay-ed", I'll send you the SSH key | 18:37 |
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| greg-g | akozak: isn't there a 'why CC:BY for OER' document some place? i can't seem to find it | 18:50 |
| greg-g | akozak: nevermind, foudn it | 18:51 |
| akozak | :) | 18:51 |
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| mralex | JED3: oh nice, i was going to ask if we could test the /join rediect on zpport. but it's already there. :D | 19:03 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: e-mail sent | 19:06 |
| JED3 | mralex: yup, added those changes yesterday | 19:11 |
| JED3 | albeit hackishly | 19:11 |
| JED3 | works for me if it works for you, question though, will GA track any utm_source value or do you have to configure that in GA? | 19:13 |
| mralex | any value | 19:13 |
| JED3 | ahh okay, should it be something more verbose than just "join" or will that suffice? | 19:13 |
| mralex | although i kinda want to see if they can be pushed over javascript, so we don't keep having ugly urls | 19:13 |
| mralex | join is fine with me | 19:14 |
| JED3 | yeah that would be optimal in this case | 19:14 |
| mralex | as long as we're doing it this way to track how many people tried ot access /join :) | 19:15 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: The new /donate page on zupport looks nice. | 20:32 |
| mralex | nkinkade: thanks! | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | It's a big improvement to spread the options horizontally, I think. | 20:32 |
| mralex | the "choose your own" is getting a bit lost though, not sure how to fix that. | 20:33 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: It would be nice if 'choose your own' could be added as another horizontal block, but it sort of looks like you wouldn't be able to squeeze another in there. | 21:59 |
| mralex | nkinkade: nope, no space, without removing one. | 22:00 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: thank you (re: letter) | 22:01 |
| nkinkade | ea4xgr: No problem. I think the git stuff should work, but you never know. :-) | 22:01 |
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| ea4xgr | nkinkade: I am going to test it soon (i.e. monaco.git) | 22:03 |
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| jasonbutz | Hello. I am someone interested in doing Google Summer of Code. I was wondering if there was anyone who might be able to give me any tips or suggestions. | 23:16 |
| nkinkade | jasonbutz: Have you seen this page: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Developer_challenges | 23:17 |
| nkinkade | Take a look there, or add something ... if you want to follow up then you should write an email to the cc-devel list about your idea for feedback. | 23:18 |
| jasonbutz | Yes I have. I have looked at some of the projects look interesting. I am particularly interested in the "Attribution Helper Browser Extension" idea. | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel | 23:18 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: I have completed a GSoC project for CC; I can answer from the student's perspective | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | jasonbutz: Shoot a message to the above list to present your idea or area of interest and get feedback. | 23:19 |
| ea4xgr | ea4xgr: you're more than welcome to ask; I'll be happy to share my experience with you | 23:19 |
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| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: are you interested in the attribution as a GSoC project (short term) or as a creative commons project (long term)? | 23:20 |
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| jasonbutz | ea4xgr: I would say a bit of both. Though right now I looking at GSoC. | 23:21 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: there are a lot of wonderful projects to be completed at this year's GSoC; I am working on the attribution extension at the moment; we could either share the work or I could handle the project to you and focus on other things | 23:23 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: I'll be very happy to discuss this project with you | 23:25 |
| jasonbutz | ea4xgr: I see. I wouldn't want to steal a project from anyone if they were really getting into it. Right now I am just looking to see what all is available and if there are things that people might be an exceptionally good idea for GSoC. | 23:25 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: please note that I'm not a creative commons staff member or a possible mentor for this project; I am in no position to represent Creative Commons with regard to GSoC | 23:26 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: this is the world of free software and I do not view taking over a project as stealing | 23:27 |
| JED3 | jasonbutz: have you taken a look at the Developer Challenges page yet? our most desirable ideas are documented there, is there any particular project you looking for information on? | 23:27 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: there is no monetary income and there are a lot of projects to focus on, so the more developers, the better; it is a win-win situation | 23:28 |
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| ea4xgr | ??? | 23:28 |
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| jasonbutz | ea4xgr: I understand. I just don't want to interfere with anything somebody else is already working on, especially if they are enjoying it. | 23:28 |
| nkinkade | jasonbutz: I think a few people have written to cc-devel with interest in the same project you mentioned. Check the archives. But I'm pretty sure nothing has been assigned yet. | 23:29 |
| nkinkade | You should just write to cc-devel to express some interest and perhaps get your name on the list of possible people for that project. | 23:29 |
| ea4xgr | that's nice of you; when it comes to my preferences, there are a lot of as interesting ideas/projects as the attribution extension; so it's no problem | 23:29 |
| ea4xgr | :) | 23:29 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: have you decided on which browser would the extension target, should you develop it? | 23:30 |
| jasonbutz | ea4xgr: I would prefer Firefox as it is my primary browser. However I am also open to Chrome. I have not done any extension programming in either browser so I would have to learn the process either way. | 23:31 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: do you have any experience with git, wordpress, mediawiki? | 23:33 |
| jasonbutz | ea4xgr: I don't have any git experience, but I have used svn. I have both used and coded a little for wordpress. I have also made a small website on top of mediawiki. | 23:34 |
| ea4xgr | that's great. these are the tools that creative commons expects the student to use during gsoc | 23:35 |
| ea4xgr | you write a wiki page like http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Content_Attributor; you blog at http://labs.creativecommons.org/; and you commit to http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit | 23:36 |
| jasonbutz | Alright, that sounds good. I guess I will work on writing an email to the cc-devel list as nkinkade has suggested and see if they have any good ideas. I suppose I can include my experience and interests and see if they have any recommendations | 23:37 |
| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: that is a great idea; I'm just trying to recall the git commands to upload the attribution extension code that I have here | 23:43 |
| ea4xgr | :) | 23:43 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: ping. git still asks for a password | 23:49 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: I do not know whether I'm doing something wrong | 23:49 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: could you have a look at this, please, when you are not busy? | 23:49 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: moreover, I cannot see the monaco.git repo at http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit | 23:50 |
| jasonbutz | I just had an idea and I wonder if anyone might know this. Is there a Creative Commons extension for Google Wave? | 23:50 |
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| ea4xgr | jasonbutz: I have not heard about such an extension | 23:51 |
| mralex | do people use google wave? | 23:51 |
| ea4xgr | mralex: I do not know. It's invitation-only. | 23:52 |
| jasonbutz | mralex: Right now it is mostly more computer savvy people. I know that at my school a large group of us that are CS majors use it to take notes in class. | 23:52 |
| mralex | i have an account, don't use it. probably got a stack of invites though... | 23:53 |
| JED3 | ea4xgr: still can't push or have you figured it out? | 23:53 |
| ea4xgr | it went like this: | 23:54 |
| ea4xgr | 1. cd monaco ; 2. git add . ; 3. git commit ; 4. git remote add origin git@code.creativecommons.org:monaco ; 5. git push origin master | 23:55 |
| ea4xgr | and the reply was: "git@code.creativecommons.org's password:" | 23:55 |
| nkinkade | ea4xgr: I had a small error in your key file. I just updated it. | 23:55 |
| ea4xgr | JED3: when I do "git clone git@code.creativecommons.org:cc.license" it still does not work | 23:56 |
| nkinkade | You won't see the repositories until you push something to them. They only exist in the gitosis configs right now. | 23:56 |
| nkinkade | ea4xgr: You don't have write permission for cc.license and that is a read/write URL. | 23:56 |
| nkinkade | See http://code.creativecommons.org | 23:57 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: nevertheless, it still asks for a password (monaco.git push) | 23:57 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: I've tried $ git clone git@code.creativecommons.org:libvalidator | 23:57 |
| ea4xgr | nkinkade: in a different directory; it still asks for a password | 23:57 |
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