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| JED3 | paroneayea, you still around? | 01:12 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: via my phone on the bus, yes | 01:12 |
| paroneayea | sup | 01:12 |
| JED3 | heh, nm its not that important. was going to ask you to take another sanity check on that api stuff. i've implement you+nathan's suggestion of a decorator | 01:14 |
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| paroneayea | ah... remind me tomorrow :) | 01:15 |
| JED3 | will do, have a good one | 01:15 |
| paroneayea | easier to dco code reviews from real computers ;) | 01:15 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade, ping | 18:41 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Hi. | 18:41 |
| JED3 | hey, do you know if civicrm records a timestamp of when a receipt is received after a contribution? | 18:42 |
| JED3 | i'm seeing a datetime, but does it store anything with a higher precision? | 18:42 |
| JED3 | err a "date" | 18:42 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Yeah, I think it records a full date. | 18:43 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Hmm. You're right, no timestamp, just a day. | 18:44 |
| nkinkade | However, when I store receipt_data I give it a full datetime. | 18:44 |
| nkinkade | The fact that it stores no time for a contribution almost constitutes a bug in my eyes. | 18:45 |
| JED3 | yeah, i'm wondering if the payment processors are taking longer now than they have in the past? | 18:45 |
| JED3 | because i feel that it was only until recently that we got this surge of "where's my login" emails | 18:45 |
| JED3 | the invites are scheduled to go out every 5 min in cron | 18:46 |
| JED3 | but a contribution's status doesn't seem to be updated until 20-30 min after a donation | 18:48 |
| JED3 | i feel as if it used to be much sooner than that, which is why i ask if you know of a table column that could provide that sort of information | 18:48 |
| JED3 | nkinkade ^^ | 18:49 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: There is no good way to find out precisely how much time there was between a donation and the database updating. | 19:07 |
| nkinkade | The cronjob that pulls donations down from PayPal runs every 15 minutes. | 19:07 |
| nkinkade | So presumably the time should always be less than, say, 16 minutes. | 19:07 |
| nkinkade | I have an open ticket to look into using IPN to trigger a run of the script. | 19:08 |
| nkinkade | The only problem is that I *believe* that only one instance of the script can run at a time. | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | It's something I need to look into. | 19:09 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, why can only one instance run at a time? | 19:16 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Some lock that the script institutes. Why the lock exists, I'm not sure. | 19:19 |
| nkinkade | I'll ask on #civicrm | 19:19 |
| JED3 | ohh ok, its probably doing a write to the contributions table | 19:19 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, but MySQL should have it's own locks. | 19:20 |
| nkinkade | I would think. | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I just asked on #civicrm and Lobo said that the possibility exists for two processes to be run close enough back to back that duplicate entries could appear. | 19:33 |
| nkinkade | I mean, for me 15 minutes for a receipt isn't too bad, and up to, say, 20 minutes for CC.net. | 19:35 |
| nkinkade | It's a fast world we live in but 20 minutes for something like an invite to CC.net doesn't unreasonable. | 19:35 |
| nkinkade | And that's 20 minutes max. | 19:36 |
| nkinkade | On average it should be more like 10. | 19:36 |
| nkinkade | Lobo also suggested that the lock may not be as necessary if we were to fetch from PayPal by transaction id. | 19:37 |
| JED3 | yeah, i dont think that 20 minutes is unreasonable by any means, but I think that latency is pretty bad compared to other website registrations which is why people have a zero patience heh | 19:37 |
| nkinkade | Which makes sense. | 19:37 |
| nkinkade | I'm guessing that our current apparently issue has less to do with impatience and more to do with a lack of information. | 19:38 |
| nkinkade | I don't think we'd get any of those emails, or even any complaints, if people knew up front that it might take up to 20 minutes. | 19:38 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, yeah that is almost certainly the main culprit for the deluge of emails | 19:44 |
| nathany | nkinkade, JED3, paroneayea: my meeting with ML is running long, and I forgot my vaccination record @ home; can we push our meeting off to tomorrow? | 19:47 |
| nkinkade | nathany: No problem. | 19:48 |
| paroneayea | nathany: yes | 19:48 |
| JED3 | nathany, y | 19:48 |
| akozak | shit nathany, sorry, i totally forgot the sync was moved | 20:02 |
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| akozak | oh | 20:03 |
| akozak | haha | 20:03 |
| akozak | i should have read the buffer first | 20:03 |
| nathany | akozak, no worries :) | 20:05 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: paroneayea: Did either of you created any new git repo called zzz? | 20:32 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: nope | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | On March 1. | 20:32 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yes that was me | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | JED3: What is it? | 20:33 |
| paroneayea | JED3 is sleep-coding | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | For some reason it's the only repo that doesn't end in .git | 20:33 |
| JED3 | lol, its a convention i use for marking projects/branches as deprecated | 20:33 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: its a folder | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Ah. | 20:34 |
| nkinkade | I only noticed because it was causing this to fail: | 20:34 |
| nkinkade | if [ ${repo:(-4)} != '.git' ]; then | 20:34 |
| nkinkade | Since it's only 3 letters. | 20:34 |
| JED3 | ahh | 20:34 |
| nkinkade | I guess it's a bug in the script. :-) | 20:34 |
| JED3 | :) who knows, maybe its a "rule" that a repo must be 4 char or more | 20:35 |
| JED3 | which script is that? | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Nope, it's just a shell script to generate the list of repositories for cgit, which runs /viewgit/ | 20:36 |
| JED3 | o ok | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | I just need to change the script so that it doesn't blurt errors when it comes across directories less than 4 chars. | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 20:36 |
| JED3 | awesome | 20:37 |
| JED3 | oh fwiw, if you anyone wants to perform some spring cleaning on our git repo.s, i'd be glad to help out | 20:37 |
| JED3 | it would be really convenient if all the projects were in git ;) | 20:39 |
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| akozak | something is wrong with the font in these screenshots: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand | 21:20 |
| akozak | do not like | 21:20 |
| greg-g | I don't like the min/max/close buttons being on the left, and the wifi signal strength icon, too freaking mac-ish | 21:21 |
| greg-g | (we've been discussing this in #ubuntu-us-mi already ;) ) | 21:21 |
| paroneayea | well apparently the new COO of canonical has only barely used GNU/Linux until a few weeks ago, and is a mac fanboy :) | 21:23 |
| paroneayea | his words, not mine: | 21:23 |
| paroneayea | http://interviews.slashdot.org/story/10/03/02/186206/Matt-Asay-Answers-Your-Questions-About-Ubuntu-and-Canonical?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+slashdot%2FeqWf+%28Slashdot%3A+Slashdot%29 | 21:23 |
| paroneayea | well okay, not his words exactly :) | 21:23 |
| paroneayea | but he pretty much says that there | 21:23 |
| paroneayea | FTA: | 21:25 |
| paroneayea | Here's a personal example. In my new role, I have switched from using Mac OS X to Ubuntu Linux. I've been using a Mac since 2002 when I switched off Windows. This switch would have been painful but for the fact that Firefox runs so well on Linux, and gives me access to a range of online services (like Google Calendar) that I was using before on the Mac. It would have been doubly so if I couldn't keep using Tweetdeck and other software | 21:25 |
| paroneayea | to which I'd grown accustomed on my Mac. | 21:25 |
| paroneayea | 21:25 | |
| paroneayea | Over time, I'm sure I'll migrate to open-source alternatives, for the same reason I used Adium, not iChat, on my Mac: the open-source alternatives are often the best available. | 21:25 |
| * greg-g holds back his comments for now, since he should be doing work | 21:26 | |
| paroneayea | I would be interested in hearing your comments though greg-g :) | 21:27 |
| paroneayea | not to distract you too heavily from your work ;) | 21:27 |
| * JED3 sighs after reading matt asay's slashdot interview | 21:30 | |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: ping | 22:18 |
| paroneayea | JED3: ⓟⓞⓝⓖ | 22:19 |
| JED3 | haha, hey not to be a nuisance, but whenever you add that bit to the answers() method, will update the version of the egg as well? | 22:21 |
| JED3 | will you* | 22:21 |
| paroneayea | oh, what we were talking about this morning in cc.license? | 22:21 |
| paroneayea | I thought you were adding it | 22:21 |
| JED3 | ohh okay, yeah I can do it | 22:23 |
| JED3 | might it break some test cases? | 22:23 |
| paroneayea | not sure, can always run the test cases and find out :) | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | cc.engine doesn't use it | 22:24 |
| JED3 | alrighty | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | I don't think anything else does either | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | let me know when you make the changes and I'll re-release though | 22:25 |
| JED3 | okay | 22:27 |
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