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akozak | mralex, http://learn-staging.creativecommons.org/productions | 01:04 |
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akozak | :) | 01:04 |
mralex | interesting | 01:04 |
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akozak | it's gonna be much cooler soon | 01:05 |
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akozak | why am i still here | 03:42 |
akozak | so empty | 03:42 |
akozak | I can't figure out this damn css | 03:43 |
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geoffmcc | ubuntu 9.10 Apache w/ php & mysql keep getting "/var/www/cchost/cchost_lib/cc-fileverify.php"(223): Uninitialized string offset: 0 when trying to upload on cchost. cant seem to find any info | 15:24 |
greg-g | geoffmcc: the main developer for cchost isn't currently in this channel, but if you send a message to the mailing list, I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than I will answer: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cctools-cchost | 15:27 |
geoffmcc | thank you. i just did | 15:34 |
greg-g | geoffmcc: you're welcome. Hope you/they figure it out | 15:38 |
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sacrebleu | so what kinds of Creative Commons licenses are commercial-ok? | 18:41 |
sacrebleu | is Attribute 2.5 ok for use in a commercial work? | 18:41 |
sacrebleu | what about 2.0? | 18:57 |
mralex | works licensed NonCommercial require permission from the original author; all others just require you to follow the license permissions — attributions, etc. | 18:58 |
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akozak | mralex, do you think this is ready to move to learn? http://learn-staging.creativecommons.org/productions | 20:23 |
akozak | I'm not really sure what will happen in browsers without js | 20:25 |
mralex | akozak: looks nice | 20:25 |
mralex | akozak: when i disable JS nothign appears. i'd recommend having the JS hide everything, instead of forcing it through CSS. but then you'll have to deal with flickering on page load. | 20:26 |
akozak | hmm | 20:27 |
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sacrebleu | so what about ShareAlike, can you use a ShareAlike track? | 20:42 |
sacrebleu | Attribution ShareAlike for instance | 20:43 |
sacrebleu | can i use it as background music without releasing my whole project that way | 20:44 |
nkinkade | sacrebleu: The only licenses that explicitly prohibit commercial use of the work are the Non-commercial CC licenses ... BY-NC, BY-NC-ND, BY-NC-SA ... all the others (BY, BY-SA, BY-ND) can be used for commercial purposes. | 20:44 |
sacrebleu | so its ok to use the stuff that is Sharealike2.0 Attribution from Wikipedia? | 20:45 |
nkinkade | sacrebleu: Re-read my previous post. | 20:45 |
nkinkade | The version number doesn't affect what I said. | 20:45 |
sacrebleu | the problem is, even though it says "ShareAlike" on Wikipedia, it seems to also say "GFDL" | 20:45 |
nkinkade | It is dual-licensed. | 20:45 |
sacrebleu | therefore... | 20:45 |
nkinkade | You can use the work under the terms of either license. | 20:46 |
sacrebleu | ah | 20:46 |
nkinkade | sacrebleu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Copyright | 20:47 |
sacrebleu | ok, cos some ppl in #fsf were being mean | 20:48 |
sacrebleu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License | 20:48 |
sacrebleu | "unported"?? | 20:48 |
sacrebleu | the question i guess is "If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same, similar or a compatible license. | 20:49 |
sacrebleu | does that mean that the larger work must be licensed under SA because it "builds upon" in some way? | 20:49 |
nkinkade | sacrebleu: Depends on whether it's a "Adaptation" or part of a "Collection" | 20:49 |
sacrebleu | its "a background score" | 20:50 |
nkinkade | I suggest you read over the actual license in question. | 20:50 |
nkinkade | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode | 20:50 |
nkinkade | Specifically, take a look at 1(a) and 1(b). | 20:50 |
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nkinkade | It it's an adaptation then you are required to release the whole thing under a the same CC license, otherwise you only need to give attribution. | 20:51 |
sacrebleu | what constitutes "an adaptation" | 20:51 |
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sacrebleu | i would say if it is background score, it is not an adaptation because i'm not altering the actual music except to perhaps fade it in and out or otherwise transition to other music | 20:52 |
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akozak | mralex, interesting, all i had to do to have all the divs load without js was to remove the display: none; from the css | 21:12 |
akozak | i guess jquery defaults to hiding them all | 21:12 |
mralex | akozak: ;) | 21:12 |
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nkinkade | mralex: Did you receive my email about the large Share PNG icon? | 23:12 |
nkinkade | Just want to make sure that I can safely delete it from my inbox and leave it in your hands. | 23:13 |
mralex | nkinkade: yes | 23:15 |
nkinkade | Cool. | 23:15 |
nkinkade | mralex: When you get it fixed will you email the guy to notify him that it's fixed. | 23:16 |
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akozak | ha, jquery tools hosting went down | 23:40 |
akozak | i suppose that's a good argument against using externally hosted js | 23:40 |
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mralex | what jquery js files are you using? | 23:43 |
mralex | we already have jquery.js and jquery-ui.js locally hosted | 23:43 |
mralex | in various locations | 23:43 |
JED3 | mralex: watching the bohemiam muppets right now | 23:44 |
akozak | mralex, I'm actually using jquery.tools.min but I'm not sure if I need to be. | 23:51 |
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mralex | akozak: i'd never heard of "jQuery Tools", and from the looks of it, jQuery UI is superior | 23:53 |
mralex | not sure what you're doing on that page that would need anything more than plain jQuery either | 23:54 |
akozak | yea | 23:54 |
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akozak | it's just a matter of not knowing much about it | 23:54 |
akozak | I'll look into switching | 23:55 |
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akozak | really hope i dont have to retheme everything | 23:58 |
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