| paroneayea | what's this for? | 00:04 |
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| paroneayea | could be some component being swapped out maybe | 00:04 |
| paroneayea | I don't know though | 00:04 |
| JED3 | just trying to get paster running for cc.engine | 00:04 |
| paroneayea | I assume you mean the old cc.engine then? | 00:05 |
| JED3 | yeah | 00:05 |
| paroneayea | hm, yeah, not sure :( | 00:05 |
| paroneayea | oddly enough I think I might not have ever run the old cc.engine on my machine | 00:05 |
| paroneayea | not sure | 00:06 |
| paroneayea | I've certainly borrowed from and read the code plenty | 00:06 |
| * JED3 building cc.engine.git | 00:08 | |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: why is librdf not included in the install_requires list of cc.license? | 00:25 |
| paroneayea | ** TODO Add recipe for building librdf in cc.license.git buildout :code: | 00:28 |
| paroneayea | because it has c code and etc iirc | 00:28 |
| paroneayea | so it requires special work to get it easy_installable or whatever | 00:29 |
| JED3 | ah i c | 00:29 |
| paroneayea | so for now it has to be installed system wide :( | 00:29 |
| JED3 | okay | 00:29 |
| JED3 | may I ask why librdf was chosen over rdflib, just out of curiosity? | 00:30 |
| JED3 | i assume its the speediness but wonder if there are any features not included in rdflib | 00:31 |
| paroneayea | JED3: because I didn't make that decision ;) | 00:32 |
| JED3 | ahh okay :) | 00:32 |
| paroneayea | what's-his-name-intern did | 00:32 |
| paroneayea | frank tobia | 00:32 |
| paroneayea | or I think he was the one who made the decision. Anyway, done back when he was working on it :) | 00:32 |
| JED3 | ohh okay | 00:32 |
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| paroneayea | I wonder if I can use nosetest classes, but with like, instances | 00:41 |
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| paroneayea | it seems silly to keep subclassing this base class just to test different views | 00:41 |
| paroneayea | that are really just variations on the same view | 00:41 |
| paroneayea | class TestThisLicense(BaseTestLicenseRdfView): | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | url = '/licenses/by-sa/2.0/rdf' | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | matchdict = { | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | 'code': 'by-sa', | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | 'version': '2.0', | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | 'controller': 'cc.engine.views:license_rdf_view'} | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | rdf_file = pkg_resources.resource_filename( | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | 'cc.licenserdf', 'licenses/creativecommons.org_licenses_by-sa_2.0_.rdf') | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | that doesn't make sense when I could just do BaseTestLicenseRdfView(url, matchdict, rdf_file) | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | talking to myself out loud over here | 00:43 |
| JED3 | why can't you do that paroneayea? | 00:44 |
| paroneayea | because the docs don't seem to indicate so, but I'm sure I must be being dumb | 00:44 |
| paroneayea | probably not too hard to hook it up, which would be less stupid than a billion subclasses | 00:45 |
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| AlexandreMBM | Olá! Boa noite! Alguém fala português? | 04:34 |
| AlexandreMBM | Tenho dúvidas sobre o "uso comercial". | 04:34 |
| AlexandreMBM | Hello! Good night! | 04:35 |
| AlexandreMBM | I have a questions about non-comercial use. | 04:35 |
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| Saqib | Hello! | 15:25 |
| Saqib | Lotia: | 15:33 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: yesterday you mentioned easy_installing librdf, where did you find an egg for librdf? are you sure you used setuptools to install it? | 18:25 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: heh... I misspoke | 19:04 |
| JED3 | o ok | 19:05 |
| paroneayea | I didn't easy_install it, what I meant was that you can't just easy_install it like a normal package | 19:05 |
| paroneayea | iirc I installed it via apt-get on my machine | 19:05 |
| JED3 | ohh okay, thats what i figured | 19:05 |
| paroneayea | yup looks like it | 19:05 |
| paroneayea | so apparently it might be possible to make a buildout command to do that for you if you don't have it, but I'm not sure how yet because I haven't done that before | 19:06 |
| paroneayea | I have it as a todo item for some future time | 19:06 |
| JED3 | oh okay | 19:06 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: You around? | 19:08 |
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| mecredis | nkinkade: yep | 19:08 |
| mralex | well that was pretty fancy | 19:38 |
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| lotia | did Saqib sign on recently | 19:48 |
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| paroneayea | lotia: yes | 19:51 |
| paroneayea | looks like at about 9:30 central was trying to ping you | 19:52 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: another question... cc0's rdf has no dc:identifier and no cc:licenseClass, so I can't select it via cc.license.by_code | 19:56 |
| paroneayea | I'd add it but I'm not sure what should be filled in for those | 19:57 |
| nathany | paroneayea, we should probably add those -- | 19:57 |
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| paroneayea | <cc:licenseClass rdf:resource="http://creativecommons.org/license/publicdomain/"/> | 19:57 |
| nathany | CC0 and http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/, respectively | 19:57 |
| paroneayea | ah okay | 19:57 |
| paroneayea | /chooze/zero/, that makes sense | 19:57 |
| paroneayea | so the licenseClass is pretty much also always the selector interface? | 19:57 |
| nathany | paroneayea, yeah, either /choose/zero/ or /publicdomain/ is probably the bets | 19:57 |
| nathany | s/bets/best/ | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | :) | 19:58 |
| nathany | i think we've been using the chooser URL (real or hypothetical) in most cases | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | ok, yeah I thought so | 19:59 |
| paroneayea | so presumably I should also add a cc:LicenseSelector to the selectors.rdf, is that correct? | 20:00 |
| paroneayea | probably like: | 20:00 |
| paroneayea | <cc:LicenseSelector rdf:about="http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/"> | 20:00 |
| paroneayea | <dc:title xml:lang="en">CC0</dc:title> | 20:00 |
| paroneayea | <cc:licenseCode>CC0</cc:licenseCode> | 20:00 |
| paroneayea | </cc:LicenseSelector> | 20:00 |
| * paroneayea will assume that is correct for now | 20:09 | |
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| Saqib | BY-SA means to release derivative work under same license? | 20:17 |
| Saqib | And how about BY content, if derivative work release under a Non-commerical license? | 20:17 |
| nkinkade | Saqib: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#If_I_use_a_Creative_Commons-licensed_work_to_create_a_new_work__.28ie_a_derivative_work_or_adaptation.29.2C_which_Creative_Commons_license_can_I_use_for_my_new_work.3F | 20:19 |
| Saqib | nkinkade: How could CC content with those, not comply CC license rules? | 20:23 |
| Saqib | contend^ | 20:24 |
| lotia | Saqib: the faq is superb, will provide answers to most of your questions about the various permutations and combinations of options | 20:24 |
| Saqib | Reallu | 20:25 |
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| greg-g | nathany: off the wall question, do you have a copy of the job description you used when hiring for the sys admin/nkinkade's position? | 20:46 |
| nathany | greg-g, yes, but it's split between sysadmin/engineer | 20:46 |
| nathany | i can email you the teamspace link if you want | 20:46 |
| greg-g | nathany: sure, that'd be cool, thanks | 20:46 |
| nathany | greg-g, trying to make sure nkinkade is doing his job? ;) | 20:46 |
| greg-g | nathany: heh, actually, I'm trying to find a nkinkade for Open.Michigan | 20:47 |
| nathany | :) | 20:47 |
| nathany | sent | 20:47 |
| lotia | greg-g: or one who can play him on TV | 20:47 |
| greg-g | :) | 20:47 |
| greg-g | nathany: thanks | 20:47 |
| nathany | lotia, i have excellent acting skillz ;) | 20:47 |
| mralex | just imagine how powerful we would become if we, ourselves, had 2 nkinkades | 20:48 |
| lotia | nathany: we're looking for l33t skillzors, not just skillz | 20:48 |
| nathany | lotia, oh, my bad | 20:48 |
| * nathany hangs his head | 20:48 | |
| nathany | ;) | 20:48 |
| lotia | so unless you can type l33tsp3ak like a true kiddie, i'm sorry... | 20:48 |
| greg-g | l33tsp3ak is sill requirement number 2. | 20:49 |
| greg-g | number 1 being ability to operate a coffee machine | 20:49 |
| mralex | #1 ought to be saving dogs trapped in wells | 20:50 |
| mralex | and then coffee machine skills | 20:50 |
| greg-g | :) | 20:50 |
| nathany | yeah, you need l33t sk1llz for 1455ie-1ik3 5h1t ;) | 20:51 |
| lotia | nathany: damn. you may be a worthy candidate after all. want to move from san francisco to ann arbor and take a pay cut ? | 20:57 |
| lotia | i know, its tempting. | 20:57 |
| nathany | lotia, how much of a cut? ;) | 21:02 |
| nathany | (just kidding) | 21:02 |
| lotia | but the weather is so fantastic nathany | 21:02 |
| greg-g | you know, $45,000 in A2 is like $70,000 in SF, cost of living and all that :) | 21:03 |
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| nathany | lol | 21:12 |
| nathany | lotia, i actually do like the weather :) | 21:12 |
| akozak | It just occurred to me that DSMW has some interesting legal problems, namely, the possibility of pulling/pushing wiki pages from wikis using different licenses | 21:15 |
| akozak | I wonder if they ought to build in license negotiation | 21:16 |
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| nathany | nkinkade, did you move that ccearch-lt.po file from a8:/var/www/search.creativecommons.org/www/ccsearch-lt.po | 22:38 |
| nathany | ? | 22:38 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I went to translate.CC.org and downloaded the PO file. | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | That step in my outline was more symbolic than anything. | 22:39 |
| nathany | uh, ok | 22:39 |
| nathany | i was referring to your message where you said you dropped it there | 22:39 |
| nathany | i can get it from translate.cc.org | 22:39 |
| nathany | nm | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, that's what I was referring to. ccsearch-lt.po was just a bogus name I gave that eliminated the external steps of downloading the PO from translate.CC.org. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | nathany: In another bizarre twist, it appears to be pulling the localized names for the dropdown from the cc_org directory. | 22:45 |
| nathany | nkinkade, not bizarre, expected | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | Which is a checkout of http://code.creativecommons.org/svnroot/i18n/trunk/i18n | 22:46 |
| nathany | i'm updating the makefile now | 22:46 |
| nathany | nkinkade, i think that falls into "it seemed like a good idea at the time" :) | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | :-) I guess I was just expecting all strings to come from PO/MO files in locales. | 22:48 |
| nathany | i think the thought was that we wanted to re-use the strings we already had | 22:48 |
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| nathany | the problem is that we currently use the presence of lang.xx strings in the cc_org catalog to add languages to the supported list | 22:49 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Are you doing some updates to the scraper on a7? | 22:52 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yes, why did you get a nagios alert? | 22:53 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Two of them. | 22:53 |
| nkinkade | One for /apps/scrape and one for /apps/triples (??) | 22:53 |
| nkinkade | staging.creativecommons.org/apps/triples | 22:53 |
| nkinkade | And labs.creativecommons.org/apps/scrape | 22:53 |
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| JED3 | yeah, i'm meddling around in there, but am now cleaning up and backing out | 22:54 |
| nathany | oh, glad to know it's not just a mystery fail | 22:55 |
| nathany | i'll stop debugging | 22:55 |
| nkinkade | JED3: No biggie ... we don't get SMS for those services, just emails. | 22:55 |
| JED3 | ok | 22:55 |
| nkinkade | mystery fails are my faves. | 22:55 |
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| nathany | oh, mine too! | 22:58 |
| * nathany is known for sincerity, not sarcasm. Really! | 22:58 | |
| * paroneayea winces and checks in 498 translated rdf files that are already out of sync with master | 22:59 | |
| paroneayea | well, had to do it at some time or another :( | 22:59 |
| paroneayea | this is not going to make for a fun merge some day in the future | 22:59 |
| nathany | paroneayea, the future is full of suck :) | 23:02 |
| nkinkade | On top of being known for sincerity, nathany is also known for his dogged, eternal optimism. | 23:02 |
| nathany | hopefully in most cases we can just take the new version since we're not making widespread changes to the existing one | 23:02 |
| nathany | nkinkade, bet this makes you *really* excited for the tech face to face :) | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | nathany: On a related note, would you like for me to correct intro.php and encapsulate strings in _() ??? | 23:03 |
| nathany | nkinkade, yes, writing an email now with a couple requests on that | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | nathany: it shouldn't be a big deal since I have a tool that makes *most* of the changes I applied automatically | 23:05 |
| nathany | paroneayea, right | 23:05 |
| paroneayea | still hard to not be alittle bit nervewracked | 23:05 |
| paroneayea | you know what this moment needs? a robot | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | .---. | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | |o_o| Beep beep beep | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | :---+-c | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | ||=|| | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | (lll) | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | ah, much better | 23:06 |
| nathany | heh | 23:06 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Can you notify me when /apps/scrape and /apps/triples are back up? | 23:09 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: working on it right now | 23:10 |
| JED3 | but yes, I will | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | Cool. I just want to be proactive about knowing when it's up again. | 23:10 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: back up | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Thanks. | 23:18 |
| JED3 | np | 23:19 |
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