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| paulproteus | eep, I'm invisible. | 16:04 |
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| paulproteus | paroneayea, Don't let nathany see your evil RDF pipe hackery.... | 16:04 |
| paroneayea | paulproteus: don't worry, it's not in real code, it was just for some personal information gathering for my notes :) | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | I figured. (-: | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | that's right, os.popen('grep') is my new rdf parser | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | FINALLY | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | I was looking for a high-performance RDF parser I could use from PHP | 16:06 |
| paroneayea | :D | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | Conveniently it has the same API as in Python | 16:06 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: heya | 16:47 |
| paroneayea | so for the strings like: ${license.pretty_nd-nc} 1.0 ${country.nl} | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | I wrote a function that does "inverse" translation, | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | so it would take that and turn it into | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | NoDerivatives NonCommercial 1.0 Netherlands | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | or whatever it is | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | but then I was wondering if you actually meant to run it through two translation passes? | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | maybe I should write an email which is more coherent with better examples and show the code as it is working now | 16:50 |
| paroneayea | I'll do that. | 16:50 |
| nathany | paroneayea, yes, that'd be helpful :) | 16:53 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Are we ready to kick off a regeneration of all Deeds? | 17:22 |
| nathany | nkinkade, i wouldn't know why not | 17:23 |
| nathany | is this just to catch things up? | 17:23 |
| nkinkade | nathany: You had asked me to do it a few weeks ago, but if I recall you were wanting to hold off just a bit until some things came down the pipe. Maybe I'm mistaken about that. | 17:25 |
| nathany | nkinkade, that does sound a little familiar, but frankly i have no idea at the moment | 17:25 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I just launched a full rebuild in a screen session on a6. | 17:25 |
| nkinkade | Am I wrong in supposing that the only option needed is -o? | 17:26 |
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| nathany_ | for everyone's amusement this morning: http://www.steakhouseorgaybar.com/ | 17:28 |
| nathany | ok | 17:28 |
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| nkinkade | nathany_: I'm having a bit of a problem getting mkdeeds to generate Unported deed.zh_TW Deeds correctly. Some strings are still untranslated, yet the cc-style PO file is updated and I have run buildout install i18n ... any ideas what I might be running up against? | 17:47 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, are the strings marked as fuzzy? | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: I'll check, though I don't think so. | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: No. At least not for the string that is baffling me. deed.with_the_understanding | 17:49 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, looking | 17:49 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, is anything getting translated? | 17:50 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Seems that for jurisdiction Deeds it's working. | 17:51 |
| nkinkade | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.zh_TW | 17:51 |
| nkinkade | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/pr/deed.zh_TW | 17:51 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Compare those two. | 17:51 |
| nkinkade | Actually the PR Deed is missing the whole last part, apparently. | 17:52 |
| nathany_ | right, probably hasn't been regenerated | 17:52 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, so you regenerated the deeds on a5? | 17:53 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: I tried on my local machine and on a checkout of cc.engine I have on a6. | 17:54 |
| nathany_ | oh, and that string isn't translated? | 17:54 |
| nathany_ | it is on staging, which is interesting -- http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/?lang=zh_TW | 17:55 |
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| nathany_ | nkinkade, if you run ./bin/cc_engine fg | 17:59 |
| nathany_ | does http://localhost:8080/licenses/by/3.0?lang=zh_TW look correct to you? | 17:59 |
| nathany_ | (it does for me) | 17:59 |
| nkinkade | I get: ZODB.lock_file.LockError: Couldn't lock 'var/Data.fs.lock' | 18:00 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: ^ | 18:00 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, do you still have mkdeeds running? | 18:01 |
| nathany_ | if so, kill, regardless, just rm var/Data.fs.lock | 18:01 |
| nathany_ | :) | 18:01 |
| nkinkade | Damn. Yeah, it was done, but stuck in that locked state where Ctrl-z is the only way out. | 18:01 |
| nkinkade | But, nathany_, yes the Deed does in fact look right that way. | 18:02 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, ok, so something weird is going on -- mkdeeds basically just captures the output from the engine and writes it to a file; what's the command line you're using to run mkdeeds? | 18:03 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: ./bin/mkdeeds -j - -l zh_TW -o <some dir> | 18:03 |
| nkinkade | But before that I had run: | 18:03 |
| nkinkade | ./bin/mkdeeds -l zh_TW -o <dir> | 18:03 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, i'm trying it now, one second | 18:05 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Thanks. It's possible I've overlooked something simple. | 18:06 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, i just tried generated them into an empty, tmp directory, and it appears to have worked | 18:07 |
| nathany_ | is it possible you had the output path off-by-a-.. or something? | 18:07 |
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| nkinkade | nathany_: Hmm. Let me give it another shot. | 18:08 |
| nathany_ | it'll create subdirs for you, and that's a mistake i've made before | 18:08 |
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| nkinkade | nathany_: Still nothing. Maybe it buildout install i18n that isn't working right: | 18:16 |
| nkinkade | http://pastebin.com/d1fa34dd4 | 18:16 |
| nkinkade | Thought I didn't get those errors on my a6 checkout, and it didn't seem to work there either. | 18:16 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, i don't think those errors have anything to do with it; i got them on mine, too | 18:19 |
| nathany_ | (iirc they're a svn version v. setuptools issue) | 18:19 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, i don't know what the issue is | 18:20 |
| nathany_ | i mean, stupid question, but i assume you've svn up'd everything? | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Yeah. Strangely, I just did the mkdeeds again and directed the output to /tmp, and it worked. | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | It seems to be something strange with outputting it to my license.rdf checkout. | 18:21 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, hrm | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | I'll poke around more on my end. | 18:21 |
| nathany_ | if you do an svn status in your license.rdf checkout, are there unknown files/dirs? | 18:22 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Wait. I think I just found the problem. | 18:22 |
| nkinkade | It's outputting the file to licenses/by/3.0/deed.zh-tw | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | instead of deed.zh_TW. | 18:23 |
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| nkinkade | nathany_: Any insight in that? | 18:32 |
| akozak | nathany_: http://twitter.com/sleslie/status/5454632148 and http://twitter.com/davecormier/status/5455301998 | 18:38 |
| akozak | seems we have some critics | 18:39 |
| nathany_ | akozak, who cares | 18:43 |
| akozak | probably very few people | 18:47 |
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| greg-g | http://www.google.com/dashboard - a benefit to Google or will it backfire ("oh my god, they know all that?!") | 18:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Sorry to hound you, but you didn't acknowledge my earlier comments ... should I email or something? | 18:50 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, in a meeting, email please | 18:50 |
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| nkinkade | pyrak: Hi. | 19:38 |
| nkinkade | Quick question. Do you know of any docs on adding new languages to ccsearch? | 19:38 |
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| pyrak | nkinkade, nope | 20:00 |
| nkinkade1 | pyrak: Do you happen to know how to do it? :-) | 20:01 |
| paroneayea | heya johnsu01 :) | 20:02 |
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| johnsu01 | paroneayea: hey, realized this would probably be a good place to hang out :) | 20:04 |
| paroneayea | heh | 20:04 |
| pyrak | nkinkade1, not sure. to be honest, even importing new translations and adding new strings to pootle was confusing to me. | 20:04 |
| pyrak | sorry | 20:04 |
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| nkinkade | pyrak: No problem, thanks. I think Nathan might have some idea about it. | 20:05 |
| paroneayea | stay awhile | 20:18 |
| paroneayea | stay foreverrrrrrr | 20:18 |
| JED3 | to liven our office space up, we need to have a machine screen reading this channels and be made audible throughout the entire office | 20:20 |
| paroneayea | what would happen when I paste ascii art? | 20:21 |
| JED3 | chaos | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | .---. | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | |o_o| | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | :---+-c | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | ||=|| | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | (lll) | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | % | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | Q_____________,, _ _ _ _ | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | / / , ,/oooo// /_\_/_\_/\ /_\_/_\_/\ | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | \ \__\_\\----\\ ' \_/ \_/' ' \_/ \_/' | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | / ,/ | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | |__\ PEW! PEW! | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | etc | 20:21 |
| JED3 | nice laser gun | 20:22 |
| paroneayea | thanks | 20:22 |
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| greg-g | ahh, the things you need to remind geeks of: "remember to greet people when they come into the space – saying hi " ;) | 20:34 |
| paroneayea | greg-g: :) | 20:35 |
| * paroneayea goes to make tea while he tests running all rdf files through the translation machinery | 20:43 | |
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| JED3 | curry anyone? | 20:52 |
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| paroneayea | hey, so remember when I mentioned a while ago that I was skipping out for a few hours to attend a protest related to a former professor of mine who was unjustly denied tenure? | 21:54 |
| paroneayea | well you know you're on to something when an issue like that is singled out to be attacked explicitly by fox news: http://origin.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571392,00.html | 21:55 |
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| greg-g | paroneayea: I salute you | 22:46 |
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| paroneayea | greg-g: thanks... yeah, still pretty distressing :\ | 23:10 |
| greg-g | that Fox gives a voice to dick heads like that? yeah. | 23:13 |
| greg-g | man, that person on cc-devel that keeps talking about paying them for the use of CC licenses is funny. I tried to get more information out of them and it was like pulling teeth. But I think I have an address :) | 23:15 |
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