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nathany | nkinkade, i'm finally ordering the backup machine | 17:33 |
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nkinkade | nathany: Are you doing that? | 17:33 |
nkinkade | I thought I was supposed to. | 17:33 |
nkinkade | Mind you, I'm not arguing. :-) | 17:33 |
nathany | it was bouncing around, i think | 17:33 |
nathany | have you, yet? | 17:33 |
nkinkade | No, not yet. | 17:33 |
nkinkade | Is the enclosure you bought an external one? | 17:34 |
nathany | i was going to spend a little more than needed to get one with four hdd bays + 3 5.25" bays | 17:34 |
nathany | yeah, but that enclosure was a single drive, $20, for sending the drive to Amazon | 17:34 |
nathany | no need to use it if we don't need to | 17:34 |
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nkinkade | nathany: You sent the enclosure back? | 17:35 |
nathany | nkinkade, no, we still have it | 17:36 |
paroneayea | mlinksva: haha, "the macplague" :) | 17:39 |
mlinksva | paroneayea, i have in inordinate hatred of apple that goes way beyond faif stuff | 17:42 |
nathany | nkinkade, is there a reason to get a big primary drive in the box? i assume we can use the existing drives (+the 2TB on my desk) for storage | 17:43 |
nkinkade | nathany: I think you're right ... we already have a 500G and 1T drive in the existing backup box. | 17:43 |
nathany | ok | 17:44 |
paroneayea | mlinksva: me too | 17:44 |
paroneayea | mlinksva: causes some family squabbles though as my sister works at an apple store and takes my opinions personally :\ | 17:45 |
nkinkade | I'm no fan of Apple either ... just to chime in. | 17:45 |
nkinkade | I find the branch repulsively chic. | 17:45 |
nkinkade | *brand | 17:45 |
* mralex covers the microphones of his apple products... | 17:45 | |
nkinkade | :-) | 17:46 |
mlinksva | the retail branches too :) | 17:46 |
nathany | I hear Repulse Chic is really big this year at Fashion Week | 17:46 |
nkinkade | They may make some nice and functional products, but I can't even own one just because of the image. | 17:46 |
nkinkade | haha | 17:46 |
mlinksva | +1 | 17:47 |
mlinksva | and they made nextstep look like shit | 17:47 |
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nathany | nkinkade, the backup machine has a wired network link, right? | 17:48 |
nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 17:48 |
nkinkade | Probably best to leave it that way, I think. | 17:48 |
nathany | right | 17:48 |
nathany | just making sure i didn't need a wireless NIC | 17:49 |
nkinkade | wireless is ultra-useful, but nowhere near as robust and fast as a good old Ethernet. | 17:49 |
nathany | right | 17:49 |
nkinkade | In fact, I wish every desk in the SF office had an ethernet jack. | 17:50 |
nathany | sigh | 17:50 |
nathany | me too | 17:50 |
greg-g | oh, did I miss the apple bashing? :( | 17:50 |
paroneayea | heh | 17:51 |
paroneayea | oh we can continue | 17:51 |
nkinkade | nathany: Have you considered falling back to WEP as another experiment? | 17:51 |
paroneayea | let me talk about how depressed I am that the FOSS webdev community largely moved over to running apple products over the last few years | 17:51 |
nathany | nkinkade, i tried yesterday but couldn't get the Macs to connect | 17:51 |
greg-g | paroneayea: oh goody! | 17:51 |
nathany | i'm done screwing with it, if Ted has more problems we're hiring outside help | 17:52 |
nkinkade | nathany: To get the Macs on the WEP network you may have to put the passphrase in double quotes. | 17:52 |
greg-g | paroneayea: yeah. And it is also sad to see the number of macs/iphones/ipods at the Ubuntu Developer Summits | 17:52 |
nkinkade | It worked for me when I had that same problem a couple years ago. | 17:52 |
mlinksva | long term, i wonder if apple stores will compete with victoria's secret or brookstone(?) | 17:52 |
paroneayea | see, nathany and nkinkade are adding technical points to our apple bashing while in a separate conversation thread | 17:52 |
nathany | nkinkade, oh, right, forgot about that... not sure if my testers tried it | 17:52 |
nkinkade | Or maybe it'll be like a 7-11/Taco Bell type thing .... Apple/Brookestone all under one roof. | 17:53 |
greg-g | paroneayea: oh, is that the wireless issue? a mac problem? :) | 17:53 |
nathany | nkinkade, i just sent you specs for what i'm planning to order | 17:53 |
nathany | for review | 17:53 |
nathany | nkinkade, and i think you mean Taco Bell / KFC | 17:53 |
nathany | aka "God's Restaurant" ;) | 17:53 |
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mralex | "the combination apple store taco bell"... that has a ring to it. ;) | 17:54 |
mlinksva | aiming for the BK/starbucks/gas combo at 10th&Howard is always a good goal for any company | 17:54 |
nkinkade | mralex: ! haha | 17:54 |
greg-g | mlinksva: when will the CC offices move there? | 17:54 |
nkinkade | I like one ... snack on some 49 cent tacos while you browse the lastest Apple fashions. | 17:54 |
mralex | 49c taco in an apple store? are you crazy? it's a 5.99 burrito or nothing, sir. | 17:55 |
nkinkade | nathany: But if your and Ted's problems continue I'd try WEP again and get the Apple people to try with double quotes ... it will probably work that way. | 17:55 |
nathany | nkinkade, right | 17:56 |
paroneayea | greg-g: yeah it's pretty depressing. I just was reading messages on the orgmode mailing list about "horray! we finally got orgmode to work on the iphone because apple won't let us run emacs because it permits non-signed code execution so we built a separate application, and apple approved it!" | 17:56 |
mlinksva | greg-g, other way actually. we're carving an auto ramp into the cc offices (think about the fomer car building the torinio tech summit was in) and there will be a BK, gas station, starbucks and selection of mall stores installed. we just need to knock out the fake japanese restaurant on the ground floor | 17:56 |
nathany | mlinksva, i think we'll need to, uh, remove a few desks from one end, too | 17:57 |
greg-g | mlinksva: ha! I always thought that place was a front. | 17:57 |
mlinksva | nathany, heh | 17:57 |
greg-g | paroneayea: I would have thought the org-mode population would have beena little more self-selecting than to be iphone users | 17:57 |
mralex | greg-g: it's clearly a mafia front. it would explain the bad food. | 17:58 |
mlinksva | greg-g, me too. clearly we need some citizen journalism action on that | 17:58 |
greg-g | akozak: ^^ | 17:58 |
akozak | right, ill get my team of high school students on that :P | 17:58 |
greg-g | done. | 17:58 |
nathany | paroneayea, i think the iphone orgmode app is slick, albeit a little hackish; i want something similar for android | 17:58 |
nathany | i just want tasks, modifier keys, etc seem like overkill for a mobile device | 17:59 |
nkinkade | nathany: FreeDOS! | 17:59 |
nathany | nkinkade, is that an exclamation of glee or despair? | 17:59 |
nkinkade | Of surprise that Dell's ship with FreeDOS. | 18:00 |
nathany | i wasn't going to pay for a windows license, and their ubuntu offerings seem to have.... well, become very hard to find | 18:00 |
nathany | ah | 18:00 |
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nkinkade | I think I've seen that there, but the momentary surprise was as much as if I had read it was shipping with Haiku. | 18:01 |
paroneayea | nathany|donut: hm, well I suppose the ui might be nice. Though I *am* looking forward to running emacs itself on my n900 once it arrives | 18:01 |
paroneayea | as overkill as it may be :) | 18:01 |
paroneayea | actually I've got a little xmpp bot worked out that I can message on my home machine and it'll spit out my agenda | 18:01 |
paroneayea | or notify me of appointments | 18:01 |
paroneayea | or can message it tasks to file in orgmode | 18:02 |
paroneayea | only the first of those three works so far though, and hackishly :) | 18:02 |
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akozak | i wanted the n900 until i realized an unlocked unit will cost close to my monthly rent | 18:03 |
paroneayea | heh :) | 18:03 |
mlinksva | damn that is cheap rent :) | 18:04 |
akozak | can only afford the bare minimum :) | 18:04 |
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paroneayea | so I guess cc staff is divided between macplague and macrage, and for this brief period the latter came uncorked | 18:11 |
paroneayea | *kssssss* | 18:11 |
paroneayea | but anyway, lunch now | 18:11 |
paroneayea | bbiab | 18:11 |
akozak | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Drumbeat/website/wireframes | 18:18 |
mlinksva | akozak, a billion people have had that idea, even started working on it. not clear it is a good idea. | 18:21 |
akozak | mlinksva: yea, it isn't clear what they want to accomplish. but I'm hoping it turns into something less traditional and more experimental (something beyond just newsletters, meetups, and conferences) | 18:23 |
mlinksva | oh, i was referring to the specific item up there now "design icons that make privacy easy" ... the moz drumbeat thing sounds good generally | 18:24 |
akozak | oh haha | 18:24 |
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akozak | mlinksva: agreed. hopefully that's a placeholder. | 18:25 |
mlinksva | i guess it is ... just a wireframe mockup. i shouldn't have treated that uri as merely an opaque identifier :) | 18:26 |
greg-g | they usually are though | 18:26 |
mlinksva | esp ones including the string goatse | 18:29 |
mlinksva | assuming we're talking about opaque ids :) | 18:29 |
nathany | mlinksva, someone from google and microsoft both asked about CC doing privacy @ the social web camp | 18:29 |
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nathany | admittedly it was at lunch and we were all sitting together | 18:30 |
mlinksva | do you recall who? | 18:30 |
nathany | but yeah... i was like, "eh, it's out of scope and it's been tried." | 18:30 |
nathany | i could probably look back @ my notes; engineer types | 18:30 |
mlinksva | nm given that it is out of scope and tired | 18:31 |
mlinksva | speakling of which | 18:31 |
mlinksva | was a facilitator there? | 18:32 |
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akozak | oooh, when did the w3c redesign their website? | 19:14 |
paroneayea | oh wow | 19:27 |
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paroneayea | nathany_, nkinkade, JED3: devcall in 10? | 21:19 |
nkinkade | paroneayea: Sure. | 21:20 |
nathany_ | paroneayea, nkinkade, JED3: yes | 21:22 |
paroneayea | cool | 21:25 |
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nkinkade | nathany_: JED3: coming? | 21:35 |
nathany_ | nkinkade, we're in the room | 21:35 |
nathany_ | redialing | 21:35 |
nkinkade | What room? | 21:35 |
nathany_ | er, conference line | 21:36 |
nkinkade | paroneayea and I have been chatting for a few minutes. | 21:36 |
nathany_ | we were jamming to smooth jazz | 21:36 |
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lotfeyyy | hi | 22:03 |
lotfeyyy | i need cc | 22:04 |
paroneayea | oh boy. | 22:04 |
paroneayea | okay lotfeyyy, before this happens again | 22:04 |
paroneayea | read the /topic | 22:04 |
paroneayea | are you looking for creative commons licenses? | 22:04 |
paroneayea | because that is what #cc is about | 22:04 |
lotfeyyy | aha | 22:06 |
lotfeyyy | ok | 22:06 |
lotfeyyy | im sorey | 22:06 |
lotfeyyy | lool | 22:06 |
lotfeyyy | credit card = cc | 22:07 |
paroneayea | yes, that is the thing that this channel is not about. | 22:07 |
lotfeyyy | what is this chanal | 22:08 |
lotfeyyy | talk about what | 22:08 |
paroneayea | like I said, creative commons licenses | 22:08 |
greg-g | lotfeyyy: you might want to read the topic again, there is a lot of information in there that is useful. | 22:09 |
greg-g | URLs for instance | 22:09 |
nathany_ | poor lotfeyyy, reading is hard | 22:11 |
lotfeyyy | im reading | 22:12 |
lotfeyyy | u are Author of books | 22:15 |
lotfeyyy | Edited books | 22:15 |
lotfeyyy | or Poet | 22:15 |
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nkinkade | nathany_: Re: Pootle and XLIFF: http://pastebin.com/m43520163 :-( | 22:54 |
paroneayea | nathany_: out of curiosity, has launchpad been considered for managing translations? | 22:55 |
nathany_ | paroneayea, yes | 22:55 |
paroneayea | I suspected as much :) | 22:55 |
paroneayea | the verdict was no for some reason? | 22:55 |
nathany_ | it felt a little software oriented for our "community" of translators, and it seemed like we could do better integration with source control on our own | 22:55 |
paroneayea | ah | 22:56 |
paroneayea | well launchpad is agpl now right? I wonder how tighly bundled the translation component is | 22:56 |
paroneayea | actually I am guessing, pretty tightly coupled to the rest :) | 22:56 |
nathany_ | paroneayea, no idea | 22:57 |
nathany_ | but yes, it is agpl onw | 22:57 |
nathany_ | now | 22:57 |
nkinkade | paroneayea: This is what we are going to look at soon: http://transifex.org/ | 22:57 |
nkinkade | nathany_: So I have absolutely no idea where to start for that exception in Pootle. | 22:57 |
paroneayea | I like the cartoon swearing hashbang | 22:57 |
nkinkade | Not shebang? | 22:58 |
nathany_ | nkinkade, i have a mtg now, can you email me the pastebin link and i'll reply? | 22:58 |
nkinkade | Yup. Better yet I'll create a ticket. :-) | 22:58 |
paroneayea | nkinkade: I guess they're synonyms | 22:59 |
paroneayea | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashbang wikipedia says it and thus it is truth | 22:59 |
nkinkade | I like shebang because it has so many meanings. | 22:59 |
paroneayea | hashpling | 23:00 |
paroneayea | I've never heard that one | 23:00 |
paroneayea | sounds like a onomatopoeia | 23:00 |
paroneayea | *an | 23:00 |
mralex1 | interrobang! (less computer nerdy, more typography nerdy) | 23:01 |
paroneayea | sounds like torture | 23:02 |
paroneayea | oh god please don't take me to the interrobang room | 23:02 |
mlinksva | http://identi.ca/conversation/6187223 | 23:08 |
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paroneayea | mlinksva: ha :) | 23:43 |
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