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| paulproteus | nkinkade, Let me check... thanks for asking.... | 00:22 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Thanks. | 00:27 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: waves | 02:11 |
| paroneayea | heya JED3 | 02:11 |
| paroneayea | ☁ ☀ | 02:12 |
| paroneayea | ☁ | 02:12 |
| paroneayea | ﹌ ﹌ ﹌ ﹌ ☁ | 02:12 |
| paroneayea | ﹌ ﹌ ☁ | 02:12 |
| paroneayea | 02:12 | |
| paroneayea | 02:12 | |
| paroneayea | have a sunny day with some scattered clouds | 02:12 |
| paroneayea | JED3: how goes it | 02:13 |
| JED3 | haha hey | 02:14 |
| JED3 | o no u broked my irc | 02:14 |
| paroneayea | lol | 02:14 |
| paroneayea | damn you, fixed-width breaking characters | 02:15 |
| paroneayea | man I totally solved that shit with zpt and everything | 02:15 |
| paroneayea | it wasn't even broken it turns out, my deframeworkify branch was good | 02:16 |
| JED3 | yeah was going to congratulate you on your breaktrhough | 02:16 |
| JED3 | hehe | 02:16 |
| paroneayea | in fact it was just working too well | 02:16 |
| paroneayea | it was successfully translating the strings | 02:16 |
| paroneayea | but one of the translations had garbage in it | 02:16 |
| JED3 | eeeks, thats not uncommon | 02:16 |
| paroneayea | and zpt uses StringIO.StringIO, which itself stores a lot of stuff in a list of strings | 02:16 |
| paroneayea | and then when you pull the data from it, with the .getvalue() method, it does something like | 02:17 |
| paroneayea | ''.join([u'good sentence', 'bad sentence with garbage ���']) | 02:17 |
| JED3 | o rly? for what use? | 02:17 |
| paroneayea | which breaks | 02:17 |
| JED3 | ahh ok | 02:17 |
| paroneayea | how's ccnetwork been since the release? | 02:17 |
| paroneayea | er, since the campaign | 02:18 |
| JED3 | uhmm, not too bad, had some minor issues with the sending of our promo/authorization/whatever-theyre-called codes | 02:18 |
| paroneayea | ah | 02:18 |
| JED3 | but the renewal process has been working great | 02:18 |
| paroneayea | awesome :) | 02:18 |
| JED3 | yeah, CC Network is actually my reason for pinging you | 02:19 |
| JED3 | wanted to ask you a question re: django templatetags | 02:19 |
| paroneayea | go for it | 02:19 |
| paroneayea | oh man the donation meter hasn't gone up in a while has it | 02:19 |
| JED3 | wondered if you have ever seen a django templatetag that can return labels for rdf properties? | 02:19 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: no it has definitely slowed | 02:19 |
| paroneayea | no, haven't seen such a templatetag... | 02:20 |
| paroneayea | to be honest I never touched rdf(a) until I started working here | 02:20 |
| paroneayea | and I haven't done much in django since I started working here :) | 02:20 |
| JED3 | yeah me neither (re: rdf) | 02:21 |
| JED3 | #django was unsure as well | 02:21 |
| JED3 | figured i may bounce of someone who i knew was django && rdf aware :) | 02:22 |
| paroneayea | :) | 02:22 |
| paroneayea | not sure exactly how you envision it | 02:22 |
| paroneayea | but template tags aren't too hard to write | 02:22 |
| JED3 | yeah they are kinda gross arent they? | 02:22 |
| paroneayea | maybe take the initiativ on it? | 02:22 |
| paroneayea | yeah they aer | 02:22 |
| paroneayea | er | 02:22 |
| paroneayea | are | 02:23 |
| paroneayea | I kind of hate writing them :) | 02:23 |
| paroneayea | there is that simpletag decorator | 02:23 |
| JED3 | heres the dpaste i sent to someone in #django who pretty much said the same thing, along the lines of "what are you envisioning".... | 02:23 |
| paroneayea | http://code.google.com/p/django-rdf/ | 02:23 |
| JED3 | http://dpaste.com/113497/ | 02:23 |
| paroneayea | so in this case triple is something in the context | 02:24 |
| paroneayea | hum | 02:25 |
| paroneayea | yeah I dunno, I would say try writing a template tag :) | 02:25 |
| JED3 | yes triple is in the context | 02:26 |
| JED3 | yeah I think itd be trivial to write, but was curious if someone out there already hard-coded the popular vocabulariews | 02:26 |
| JED3 | plus I have no worries writing this tag using the rdflib libraries but I'd hate to release a templatetag to the community with a dependency like rdflib | 02:28 |
| paroneayea | lol | 02:30 |
| paroneayea | because it's so slow? | 02:30 |
| paroneayea | not sure if you mean rdflib vs librdf here | 02:31 |
| paroneayea | or just because releasing a library that has that kind of dependency | 02:31 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: no i'm worried to release a template tag that has any dependency to a library as large as any of the python rdf libs | 02:32 |
| JED3 | in my mind templatetags should be as lightweight as possible, and essentially be wrappers of common business logic | 02:32 |
| paroneayea | yeah, but seems like the templatetag would be pretty lightweight | 02:33 |
| paroneayea | it's just the dependency that's a heavyweight maybe | 02:33 |
| paroneayea | but if someone's going to be doing rdf stuff | 02:33 |
| paroneayea | won't they need a good rdf library, either librdf or rdflib anyway? | 02:33 |
| paroneayea | so, I wouldn't worry about it | 02:34 |
| paroneayea | JED3: did you look at http://code.google.com/p/django-rdf/ though? | 02:34 |
| paroneayea | it says it includes some template tag stuff | 02:34 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: yeah i read that, but i can't find anything valuable in their trunk :( | 02:37 |
| JED3 | actually I haven't spent the necessary time to determine what their templatetag stuff is doing at all haha | 02:38 |
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| JavaWoman | morning all! | 05:38 |
| JED3 | evening here | 05:40 |
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| user02 | hi everyone! i asked this already yesterday, but didn't really get an answer: if i do attribution to a CC source on a specific page, is it ok, if this page is excluded from spidering by search engines? | 12:43 |
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| user02 | hmm, ok | 13:08 |
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| paroneayea | user02: I think if you're citing something like wikipedia's article on bananas, just link to the page on bananas as your attribution | 14:14 |
| paroneayea | if you want to be more clear, probably best to link to the specific revision that you pulled from | 14:14 |
| paroneayea | I'm not a lawyer, but that seems to be the community consensus on how to attribute | 14:15 |
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| paroneayea | morning #cc | 15:35 |
| mecredis | nkinkade: there? | 15:38 |
| mecredis | want to dial into the nagios box | 15:38 |
| mecredis | and we can do a test (the ztdummy is working, so is the conference room) | 15:39 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Hey | 15:39 |
| nkinkade | Cool. And yesterday I also compiled a kernel, though I haven't yet installed it. | 15:40 |
| mecredis | nice. | 15:40 |
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| user02 | paroneayea: thx, my question was rather, whether the link has to be "spiderable" or not | 17:19 |
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| greg-g | user02: as long as the link is on the same page/around the material which is being attributed, it is fine. There is nothing in the licenses about robot.txt files :) | 17:36 |
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| nathany | paroneayea, fyi, pulling cc.engine now and going to take a look | 17:44 |
| nathany | will ping you when i've reviewed | 17:44 |
| paroneayea | nathany: cool | 17:48 |
| user02 | greg-g: :-) fine, thx | 17:48 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: oh and btw, I fixed the unicode issue about an hour ago, but you'll need to re-buildout to get the fix, if you haven't already | 17:55 |
| nathany | paroneayea, got it | 17:55 |
| nathany | i'm actually just reading the code, not even bothering with the buildout @ the moment | 17:55 |
| paroneayea | heh, ok | 17:56 |
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| mralex | nathany: i've added the campaign banner js script back to the deeds js, i take it cc.engine needs a restart for it to load | 17:59 |
| nathany | mralex, it shouldn't; iirc that javascript doesn't get served up by cc.engine on production | 17:59 |
| nathany | did you run make to regenerate the consolidated js? | 17:59 |
| mralex | yup | 17:59 |
| nathany | and svn up'd www | 18:00 |
| nathany | ? | 18:00 |
| mralex | should the script be in www/includes/referrer or cc.engine's resources directory? | 18:00 |
| nathany | yes | 18:00 |
| nathany | :) | 18:00 |
| mralex | ahhhh | 18:00 |
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| nathany | iirc apache rewrites the @@ resource calls | 18:00 |
| nathany | to www/includes/referrer | 18:00 |
| nathany | does that help? | 18:00 |
| mralex | k. it's been a while since i've touched this stuff… :) | 18:00 |
| nathany | right | 18:01 |
| nathany | (nice ellipses) | 18:01 |
| mralex | that worked. thanks. | 18:02 |
| * paroneayea should add a hook to erc to auto-convert all his elipses to the … character | 18:02 | |
| mralex | Adium is awesome like that. | 18:03 |
| paroneayea | but I bet Adium isn't awesome like: | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | Q_____________,, _ _ _ _ | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | / / , ,/oooo// /_\_/_\_/\ /_\_/_\_/\ | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | \ \__\_\\----\\ ' \_/ \_/' ' \_/ \_/' | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | / ,/ | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | |__\ PEW! PEW! | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | and what is IRC without ascii art? | 18:04 |
| mralex | helvetica is totally the wrong font for ascii art... :/ | 18:04 |
| paroneayea | \\||// | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | / \ ~\\\\|||////~ | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | |======| _/ \_ | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | (|(o)(o)|) (_ ( o) (o ) _) | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | | (__) | \ ___(_)___ / | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | \<____>/ =\\_______//= | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | ||\____/|| ===='-------'==== | 18:05 |
| paroneayea | |||||||||||| =================== | 18:05 |
| * paroneayea ponders walking to the nearby coffee shop to do work | 18:06 | |
| paroneayea | I haven't done that since starting working here | 18:07 |
| greg-g | user02: no problem | 18:07 |
| paroneayea | I assume nobody would care (actually, nobody would even know if you're telecommuting?) as long as I put in the same work hours and remain productive. And being in the company of other humans with an endless supply of caffeine probably would be nice. | 18:10 |
| paroneayea | on the internet, nobody knows you're coding from a snobby cafe (unless you're publishing geolocation data) | 18:10 |
| mralex | that reminds me, i should probably go get another cup. what's the rule, one drink per hour? | 18:10 |
| paroneayea | i think my veins would explode if I drank a cup of coffee an hour | 18:11 |
| paroneayea | sploosh | 18:12 |
| paroneayea | could probably get away with a cup of tea an hour | 18:12 |
| nathany | paroneayea, speaking of, i'm heading out for another cup of coffee myself | 18:12 |
| paroneayea | nathany: k | 18:12 |
| nathany | i've skimmed through the code a bit, do you mind talking on the phone in 15 min or so? | 18:12 |
| paroneayea | sure, sounds good | 18:12 |
| nathany | great, brb | 18:13 |
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| mralex | cool, my /donate/paypal analytics tracking also notes when people eventually get to /thanks | 18:20 |
| mralex | (and when they go back to /donate) | 18:20 |
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| nathany | mralex, awesome | 18:26 |
| nathany | paroneayea, ping | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | nathany: pong | 18:27 |
| nathany | are you free to chat briefly? | 18:27 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 18:27 |
| nathany | your cell # the best to call? | 18:28 |
| paroneayea | yeah, 773 614 2279 | 18:28 |
| JED3 | nathany: did we photograph the whiteboard after our meeting 2 or 3 weeks ago? | 18:33 |
| paroneayea | request.accept_language.best_matches() | 18:35 |
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| nathany | JED3 I'm not sure... let me look @ my phone... | 18:40 |
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| nathany | JED3, I don't seem to have a photo of it on my phone | 18:42 |
| JED3 | ohh okay, thx for checking | 18:42 |
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| paroneayea | http://deliverance.openplans.org/philosophy.html | 20:00 |
| paroneayea | deliverance kind of looks interesting. Never tried using it but I think about template incompatibility now and then | 20:01 |
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| mralex | nathany and i have briefly talked about Deliverance before | 20:39 |
| paroneayea | yeah? | 20:39 |
| mralex | oh, sorry, the page layout confused me... i thought it was the templating system we had actually talked about | 20:40 |
| paroneayea | :) | 20:40 |
| nathany | mralex, it's not? | 20:41 |
| paroneayea | my impression is that deliverance is built so that you can make one layout for the site, and use various applications with various templating systems, and they'll all inherit the look and feel | 20:41 |
| nathany | mralex, yeah, that's the deliverance we've talked about before | 20:41 |
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| mralex | ah. yes. sigh, their page layout is still confusing. | 20:43 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: have you tried it at all? | 20:44 |
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| nathany | paroneayea, i have not | 20:51 |
| nathany | when we last looked we couldn't exclude pages from the process | 20:51 |
| nathany | which made it insufficient for our site | 20:51 |
| nathany | i think they've fixed that | 20:52 |
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| greg-g | thanks paulproteus: http://grossmeier.net/files/rtorrent_karmic.png ;) | 22:01 |
| mralex | greg-g: nathany: (any other ubuntu users) a buddy just told me about apt-p2p, http://blog.chenhow.net/os/linux/ubuntu/using-apt-p2p-for-faster-upgrades-from-intrepid-to-jaunty/ | 22:04 |
| mralex | if it wasn't already on your respective radars | 22:04 |
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| paroneayea | greg-g: what's that at the bottom of your terminal? | 22:11 |
| paroneayea | is that an option in screen? | 22:11 |
| greg-g | paroneayea: yeah, the list of the different screen windows | 22:18 |
| paroneayea | neat... what's the option / command to enable that? | 22:19 |
| greg-g | it is part of the .screenrc config | 22:19 |
| greg-g | hardstatus on | 22:20 |
| greg-g | hardstatus alwayslastline | 22:20 |
| greg-g | hardstatus string "%{= wk} %?%-Lw%?%{= kd} %n*%f %t %{= wk}%?%+Lw%? %{= wk}%=%{= Wk} %C%a %m-%d-%Y %{= wk}" | 22:20 |
| greg-g | that is the entire contents of my .screenrc | 22:20 |
| paroneayea | neat | 22:20 |
| greg-g | yep :) | 22:20 |
| paroneayea | thx | 22:21 |
| greg-g | np | 22:21 |
| greg-g | paroneayea: you might also like https://edge.launchpad.net/byobu | 22:22 |
| paroneayea | it's breaking launchpad! :) | 22:22 |
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| greg-g | mralex: yeah, apt-p2p is an intersting idea. I'd also be happy with apt support deb-deltas, instead of download a whole new package, just download the diff. Conary (used by Foresight) does that, very smart. | 22:31 |
| mralex | greg-g: nifty | 22:31 |
| * paroneayea wonders why `grep -nH -e 'προέλευσης' . -R` returns every line ever... seems to be matching spaces? | 22:44 | |
| paroneayea | oic | 22:46 |
| paroneayea | cwebber@octavian:~/devel/cc.engine-git$ echo "Αναφορά" | 22:46 |
| paroneayea | returns nothinnn | 22:46 |
| paroneayea | oh this is M-x shell stupidity.. normal terminal works fine | 22:46 |
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