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| OverlordQ | Can portions by-sa-1.0 text be merged with by-sa-3.0 text? afaik 1.0 didn't include "or later versions" on derivite works and says "this license" which I take to mean 1.0. Can somebody help me clarify. | 05:52 |
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| paroneayea | nathany_: shot you an email | 16:26 |
| paroneayea | oh, I just noticed | 16:28 |
| paroneayea | msgid "license.GPL_name_full" | 16:29 |
| paroneayea | msgstr "GNU General Public License" | 16:29 |
| paroneayea | this data is also in the .po files, huh | 16:29 |
| nathany_ | paroneayea, just saw it, let me look | 16:29 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Hey. | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Hey. So it's an old backup of my laptop. It'd be nice to have a copy of it. I can take a few minutes this weekend and see which files I actually don't have. | 16:38 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Good guesswork on what I was going to ask. :-) | 16:38 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: It would take weeks to get all that data off the backup and to some other place. So you're just thinking of cherry-picking a few things here and there? | 16:39 |
| nkinkade | I'm mainly concerned about it because space is getting somewhat tight ... we're at 96% usage of that disc ... only 43G remain. | 16:40 |
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| paulproteus | Yeah - cherry picking just a few is what I'll do. | 16:49 |
| paulproteus | I can try to do that over the weekend and then nuke it. | 16:49 |
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| JED3 | do we have an API endpoint for getting the attribution text of a given license uri, but in plain text? | 17:17 |
| JED3 | similar to the html result of http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/dev/details?license-uri=http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ | 17:18 |
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| mralex | fuck | 17:39 |
| mralex | why does ccsearch pull in deed.js? | 17:39 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: nathany_: is there anything you're aware of outstanding that would block me from merging ccsearch trunk to production? | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Not that I know of. | 17:46 |
| nathany_ | mralex, not that i know of | 17:46 |
| nathany_ | mralex, i assume you figured out the deed js issue from the other day? | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | mralex: svnmerge should work fine. | 17:46 |
| mralex | great, thanks guys | 17:47 |
| mralex | nathany_: yep. wasn't aware that search was unnecessarily pulling it in though. | 17:47 |
| nathany_ | heh | 17:48 |
| nathany_ | naturally | 17:48 |
| nathany_ | ;) | 17:48 |
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| jip_26 | hello | 18:19 |
| mralex | nathany_: wow, awesome. | 18:21 |
| paroneayea | nathany_: you around? | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | so I've had a bit more time to look this over a bit further, it doesn't look like I was correct | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | msgid "license.GPL_name_full" | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | msgstr "GNU General Public License" | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | so the GPL and the lgpl do have that license_name_full msgid | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | but some others don't: | 18:25 |
| nathany_ | paroneayea, right | 18:26 |
| jip_26 | I have made a OOo-presentation for educational purposes with a lot of images in it (from others) with CC-BY-SA licenses. Can I put a CC-BY-NC-SA on the part of the presentation I made? | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | (actually, *only* the gpl and lgpl do) | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | but, it seems possible to reconstruct the "standard" names | 18:27 |
| nathany_ | paroneayea, right | 18:27 |
| nathany_ | that's why i mentioned in my email that we may need to make the i18n machinery a little smarter | 18:27 |
| nathany_ | jip_26, i don't think so; i believe you need to release it under BY-SA | 18:28 |
| paroneayea | ie, you can combine "%s %s %s" % (license.pretty_{license_code}, license.version, license.jurisdiction), like Attribution 3.0 Unported | 18:28 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 18:28 |
| paroneayea | ah ok | 18:28 |
| paroneayea | hm yeah, I see that now | 18:28 |
| nathany_ | right | 18:29 |
| nathany_ | i wonder if we could easily do something like "${license.pretty_by} ${license.version} ${license.jurisdiction}" for the dc:title[i18n] | 18:29 |
| nathany_ | er | 18:29 |
| nathany_ | wait | 18:29 |
| nathany_ | nevermind | 18:29 |
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| nathany_ | it really only needs to be ${license.pretty_by} 3.0 ${country.us} | 18:29 |
| nathany_ | (for example) | 18:29 |
| nathany_ | (not sure what the name of the "unported" string is) | 18:30 |
| paroneayea | hm, yeah | 18:30 |
| jip_26 | nathany_: But wouldn't that also mean that one can't put CC-BY-SA images and other copyrighted images together in one presentation? | 18:30 |
| paroneayea | (appears to be util.Unported) | 18:30 |
| paroneayea | yeah I think that's possible | 18:30 |
| paroneayea | makes sense | 18:30 |
| nathany_ | jip_26, the question hinges on whether your presentation is a derivative or collection | 18:31 |
| nathany_ | IANAL | 18:31 |
| nathany_ | (and we can't give legal advice) | 18:31 |
| jip_26 | nathany_: thank you | 18:34 |
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| nkinkade | nathany_: I just svn up'd cc.engine on production and there is a conflict in cc/engine/skin/resources/includes/referrer/deed.js | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | But that is a compressed JS file so it's exceedingly hard to see what could have changed. | 18:40 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, just revert it | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | Cool. | 18:40 |
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| nathany_ | (to committed version) | 18:40 |
| nathany_ | shouldn't matter, as that javascript is served up by apache in the production configuration | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: So use the version in Subversion and ditch the local copy? | 18:42 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, yes | 18:42 |
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| nkinkade | nathany_: impsplat is failing with this exception: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group' | 18:46 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, can you pastebin the full traceback? | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: http://pastebin.com/d70a66f22 | 18:47 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, looks like it's failing on the CC0 URL, probably the regex is expecting the find "license" in there | 18:50 |
| nathany_ | i can look at it but it likely won't be until Monday | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: I'll create a ticket. | 18:50 |
| nathany_ | thanks | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Also, I just launched 3.0 TW | 18:50 |
| nathany_ | uh | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | And there are a few problems. | 18:51 |
| nathany_ | beyond imgsplat? | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | I may ask you for help. | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | Yeah. | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | The /international/tw/ page shows the 3.0 licenses but the links go to the 2.5 licenses. | 18:52 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade, i can't remember if that page pulls from the API or from a local copy of licenses.xml | 18:52 |
| nathany_ | the latter, iirc | 18:52 |
| nathany_ | may need to svn up something in www | 18:52 |
| JED3 | ouch rdflib keeps segfaulting on me | 18:58 |
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| JED3 | FWIW, for anyone using the rdflib sparql parser http://dpaste.com/114342/ | 19:04 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: do you think a site feedback popup box would bring in more spam than useful site feedback? | 19:17 |
| mralex | nkinkade: i imagine either a js popup, or somethign inline at the bottom of random pages | 19:18 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Where would be the site feedback popup be located and what would trigger it? | 19:18 |
| nkinkade | Just random stuff? | 19:18 |
| nkinkade | I mean it would randomly display? | 19:18 |
| mralex | nkinkade: randomly as in not on every page | 19:19 |
| nkinkade | I don't know, I guess it could provide some useful feedback. But something inside me reels at the though of a popup asking for feedback. | 19:19 |
| nkinkade | I think I would personally prefer some static text on a page soliciting people to give feedback. | 19:20 |
| mralex | yeah | 19:20 |
| nkinkade | Not sure where it could go, thought. | 19:20 |
| nkinkade | *thought | 19:20 |
| nkinkade | **though! | 19:20 |
| mralex | i think people might be more inclined to give feedback in the moment if there's a textarea right in front of them | 19:20 |
| nkinkade | mralex: That's probably true. | 19:21 |
| mralex | but spam and general usefulness are issues, clearly. | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | But some people could be aggravated by a popup. | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I doubt we'd get much spam from it. | 19:21 |
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| mralex | JED3: safe to erase the whiteboard in the green room? | 20:12 |
| mecredis | mralex: can I ignore this feedburner email? | 20:28 |
| k9d-925 | any halloween fun in the creative commons office? | 20:31 |
| k9d-925 | up the street at organic i participated in the pumpkin carving contest http://dutycycle.org/post/228198631/halloween-around-the-organic-inc-sf-office-means | 20:31 |
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| mralex | greg-g: ping | 21:37 |
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| pieterc | Hi, I'm wondering... Is it common to write a thesis under cc license? | 22:38 |
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| paroneayea | pieterc: well I don't know about common, but I don't see it as being anything but a good idea :) | 22:53 |
| pieterc | paroneayea: no doubt about my thesis being cc | 23:04 |
| pieterc | I'm afraid other people don't even care how they license the paper | 23:04 |
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| akozak | mralex: any suggestions? http://onopen.net/ | 23:27 |
| akozak | I want to make the title nicer somehow | 23:27 |
| mralex | akozak: you can totally push the font-size for div#maincontent p to 85-90%, 80 is way small IMO. | 23:29 |
| akozak | ok, ill try that | 23:30 |
| akozak | I also realized why all our accounts on the cc wp are our full names | 23:31 |
| akozak | vastly simplifies the author field | 23:31 |
| mralex | akozak: emailed you a screenshot of a quick tweak that looks quite pleasing to me, i can give you teh diffs if you're into it | 23:31 |
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| akozak | mralex: oooh, yea that's nice | 23:32 |
| mralex | akozak: i set font-family to arial; and killed the small-caps, letter-spacing, and text-align: center; from the header css selectors | 23:34 |
| akozak | ok i'll play around with that, thanks. I was sort of wedded to small-caps, but this looks a lot nicer now that I see it. | 23:35 |
| JED3 | out of curiosity, what is the shortest url in our possession within the core cc namespace (e.g. excludes onopen.net) | 23:47 |
| JED3 | also just noticed the ccLearn on http://cclearn.com | 23:47 |
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