Wednesday, 2009-09-30

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jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern03:19
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jibotmlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer03:41
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jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern04:46
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jibotthomg is Thom Hastings and thomhastings.com and awesome!05:49
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Oktoberhi guys. I'm arranging a Schubert impromptu for guitar and was wondering if I should give it a CC stamp06:35
OktoberI want it to be free for all in its current format and content, but non-editable06:36
Oktoberkind of...06:36
Oktoberhow do I proceed in labeling it as CC?06:36
OktoberIs it CC once I put the mark in the score, or do I have to register or something?06:36
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jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern06:59
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paulproteusOktober, The FAQ explains that you don't have to register it.13:06
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jibotjgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay14:20
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jibotmlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer15:02
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jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern15:58
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nathanymralex: http://productiveblog.tumblr.com/17:26
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jibotakozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god17:36
paroneayeankinkade: do I have access to the server that git.creativecommons.org is on?17:48
paroneayeaI was trying to add the cc.engine repository but17:48
paroneayeassh git.creativecommons.org, at the very least, does not work17:48
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jibotmlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer17:49
paroneayeanathany: that's awesome17:49
nathanyparoneayea: it's code.creativecommons.org17:50
nathanysee http://code.creativecommons.org for clone/co instructions17:50
nathanyyou don't need to SSH in, just clone the gitosis-admin repo, add the new repos to gitosis.conf and then push to the server17:50
paroneayeaoh17:50
paroneayeaneat17:51
paroneayeaok17:51
paroneayeacwebber@grumps:~/devel$ git clone git@code.creativecommons.org:gitosis-admin17:56
paroneayeaInitialized empty Git repository in /home/cwebber/devel/gitosis-admin/.git/17:56
paroneayeaERROR:gitosis.serve.main:Repository read access denied17:56
paroneayeafatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly17:56
paroneayeaweird17:58
nkinkadeparoneayea: You don't have access to the gitosis repo.17:58
nkinkadeLet me give that to you now.17:58
paroneayea:)17:58
nkinkadeparoneayea: cwebber@grumps?17:58
paroneayeayep17:58
nkinkadeparoneayea: Try now.18:00
nkinkadenathany: mralex: Do either of you know what themes/ccnl.git is (was) all about.18:00
nkinkadeI'm getting errors that it doesn't exist when I push on gitosis-admin.18:00
mralexcc netherlands?18:00
paroneayeankinkade: jawesome, works, thx18:01
nathanynkinkade: they built a WP theme18:01
nathanythey were going to add it to git18:01
nkinkadenathany: Do they have access to code.CC?18:02
paroneayeagitosis seems to be pretty neat idea.  Maybe I should run it for my own projects on dustycloud.18:02
nathanynkinkade: yes, i added at least one key for them18:03
nathanyit should be in the projects file18:03
mecredisnathany: did you just tweet18:06
mecredisifyou just have the @ username at the beginning then it only goes to people follwoing oyu?18:07
nathanyoh really?18:08
nathanysigh18:08
mecredisyeah, obscure microblog convention18:08
mecredissomething like18:08
nathanyobscure *twitter* convention?18:08
mecredisCC CTO @nyergler is judging the Mashup Australia contest; mashup open govt data, win cash: http://bit.ly/10sHss is better18:08
mecredisthink identi.ca follows it as well18:08
nathanyshould i resend?18:08
mecredisyeah, I'll take care of it18:08
nathanymecredis: thanks!18:09
mecredisdon't worry18:09
nathanyi'll keep it in mind in the future18:09
nathany*facepalm18:09
mecredishttp://twitter.com/creativecommons/status/450324751318:10
mecredis:)18:10
nkinkadenathany: Do you think the label "CC Network Annual Membership" needs the "Annual" part?18:11
nkinkadeWhat else would it be?18:11
nathanynkinkade: perpetual?18:11
nathanyi guess i wanted to make it clear in another place that it's an annual thing...18:12
nkinkadeDo we need to draw that distinction?18:12
nathanydo you think it's overkill?18:12
nathanynot sure18:12
nkinkadeI don't know either, hence my question. :-)18:12
nathanymecredis, what do you think? we're fixing up paypal stuff for the CC Network /join page on support.cc.org18:12
nkinkadeIt seemed like overkill to me, but I figured there might be some aspect of it all I was missing.18:12
nathanythe "item name" that shows up --18:12
nathany"CC Network Membership" or "CC Network Annual Membership"?18:12
nkinkadeThe former is a convenient superset of any other possiblities.18:13
nathanynkinkade: whatever mecredis says is fine with me18:13
nkinkademecredis: There is now a lot of weight on your shoulders.  Don't let us down.18:14
nkinkadeA wrong decision now could screw us for years to come, so think hard about it. ;-)18:14
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mecredisahhh18:36
mecredisI step away for 10 minutes18:36
mecredisand the world comes crashing down18:36
mecredisok wait, so the question is18:36
mecrediswhether to use the word Annual18:37
mecredisI think if we're offering a 1 year membership for sale18:37
paroneayeankinkade: http://dpaste.com/100500/18:37
mecredisit should obviously say its annual18:37
mecredisso I agree with nathany18:37
paroneayeaanyway, I don't see it on cgit18:38
nkinkadeparoneayea: Look back up in this IRC session for more info on that warning.18:39
nkinkademecredis: nathany: "Annual" it is.18:39
* mecredis hears thunder in the distance18:39
nkinkadenathany: Maybe this is a question for Melissa, but how do we handle supporter list opt-out for CC Network joins if they go directly to one-click?18:41
nkinkadeDo we just automatically opt them out to be on the safe side?18:41
mralexny stepped out; i just asked mel18:41
nkinkadeThere's no easy answer to that, but I'll be curious to see what she thinks.18:41
mralexMelissa Reeder18:42
mralexcc network doesn't go on the supporter list18:42
nkinkadeI have to step out for about an hour to close on this condo ...18:42
nkinkademralex: Roger that, on the sloptout for CC Net joins.18:42
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paroneayeankinkade: I'm having trouble figuring out where in this chat you're referring to info about that warning...18:43
jibotmlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer18:43
jibotrobmyers is Rob Myers and going to talk about freedom. Ignore him.18:43
paroneayea:x18:43
nkinkadeparoneayea: http://pastebin.com/m3e88fa5918:45
nkinkade... or scroll back to 02:00:30 PM (your time may differ)18:45
nathanynkinkade: yes, no supporters list (although it appears you had that answered)18:51
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jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern18:53
pyrakanyone else having trouble connecting to #ubuntu, #freeculture and some others?18:54
greg-gpyrak: I'm in #freeculture and I never go into #ubuntu18:55
pyrakhmmm18:59
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jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern18:59
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paroneayeanathany, JED3, nkinkade: call?20:32
nathanyparoneayea: right, i forgot20:32
nathanyJED3: paroneayea: nkinkade: conf line?20:32
nathanylet's make it a quick one20:32
nkinkadenathany: paroneayea:  Sorry about the call.  Closing on the condo took longer than I thought.  I just got back.20:46
nathanynkinkade: no problem; having closed before i figured as much20:46
nathanycongratulations, btw20:46
nkinkadeYeah, there was some arguing at the table over $2520:47
nathanylol20:47
mralexof course there was20:48
mralexcongrats on that20:48
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paroneayeanathany: so, I'm trying to get a better sense of how routing happened in the old code21:10
paroneayeaso that I can work on integrating it with the new code easier21:11
paroneayeaI know you mentioned the traversal thing in cc/engine/__init__.py21:11
paroneayeahm, nevermind, maybe I'm answering my own questions21:11
paroneayeaI'm going to look at that a bit more21:11
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nathanyparoneayea: ok; yeah, __init__.py created the object instances; all the other routing happened via traversal21:28
nathanyso the pages and traversers were registered for a specific interface21:28
paroneayeaok... I'm trying to figure out where the "view" equivalent code is in here21:33
paroneayeaI see that in cc/engine/licenses/standard.py there's a bunch of stuff that looks related to the view21:34
paroneayeabut it's hard to tell what's the view specifically, or if there is one21:34
paroneayeais it the __call__ methods?21:35
paroneayeaon BrowserPage objects21:35
nathanyparoneayea: yes21:45
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jibotpyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern22:25
paroneayeanathany: know of any decent public repoze.bfg applications that I could look at?22:48
paroneayeajust asking if you know offhand, no big deal if not22:48
nathanyparoneayea: not off the top of my head; i think there are a couple of demos in the docs (or linked from there)22:49
paroneayeaah ok22:49
nkinkademralex: Did you by chance patch Ubercart recently?23:11
nkinkadewith dim_length.patch ??23:11
mralexnkinkade: haven't touched ubercart23:11
nkinkadeWeird.23:11
nkinkadeThere's a patch file in there and it seems to have been applied, but I'm feel sure I didn't do it.23:11
nkinkadeOh well.  Everything seems to work.23:12
mralexwho owns it?23:12
nkinkademralex: alex owns it.23:17
mralexhmmm23:17
nkinkadeIt's currently in /home/nkinkade/tmp23:17
nkinkadedim_length.patch23:17
nkinkademralex: Good idea.  I suppose that is a strong indication that you put it there and applied it.23:17
mralexi've only patched things on zupport though...23:18
nkinkademralex: That file was on support.23:18
nkinkadehttp://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/drupal.git/log/?h=cc_production_6.1323:19
nkinkademralex: Looks like you merged a number of things from zupport into production.23:19
nkinkadeI'm not 100%, but doing merges like that *might* fuck up the upgrade path with git rebase.23:20
mralexnkinkade: oh, just looked at it, that is familiar. there was some conflict somewhere that required that patch.23:20
nkinkadeI've never had good luck with it unless the commit path was totally linear.23:20
nkinkadeWe'll see how it goes next time I have to upgrade Drupal.23:20
nathanymralex: http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/gaJS/gaJSApiBasicConfiguration.html#_gat.GA_Tracker_._trackPageview23:24
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