| nkinkade | "falls back," meaning that it probably doesn't use the OpenWRT configured IP settings. | 00:00 |
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| nathany | ok | 00:00 |
| nkinkade | The TFTP thing is not from OpenWRT, but from Linksys. | 00:00 |
| nathany | ok, i'm getting ready to try it | 00:00 |
| nathany | ttyl :) | 00:00 |
| nkinkade | Linksys has no way of knowing what IP settings our own firmware wasusing. | 00:00 |
| nathany | right | 00:00 |
| nathany | that makes sense now (i think) | 00:00 |
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| greg-g | good luck :) | 00:14 |
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| greg-g | looks like it worked! | 00:14 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade: ping | 00:14 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Here. | 00:14 |
| nathany_ | or not | 00:14 |
| nkinkade | Uh-oh. | 00:14 |
| greg-g | :( | 00:14 |
| nathany_ | yeah, tftp wouldn't take either with 192.168.1.1 or 10.0.2.1 | 00:14 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Let me check the OpenWRT site for the default IP. | 00:15 |
| nathany_ | i wonder if the nvram setting isn't twiddled correctly to allow that | 00:15 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Looks like you had it right with 192.168.1.1 | 00:16 |
| nkinkade | What IP did you set on your laptop? | 00:16 |
| nkinkade | .2? | 00:16 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^ | 00:16 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade: yes | 00:17 |
| nkinkade | 255.255.255.0? | 00:17 |
| nkinkade | Just covering all the bases. | 00:17 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade: i think so, although not 100% sure | 00:18 |
| nathany_ | i'll try again | 00:18 |
| nathany_ | brb | 00:18 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: no dice | 00:23 |
| nkinkade | nathany: If you do ping 192.168.1.1 and then powercycle the router, do you get any responses briefly. | 00:24 |
| nkinkade | ? | 00:24 |
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| nkinkade | Just small, unlikely things, but what port are you in on the back of the router. Are you sure your cable is a straight-through cable and not a cross-over? | 00:25 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^ | 00:25 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i get a link light which i wouldn't expect with a x-over | 00:25 |
| nathany | i'm on port 1, as instructed | 00:25 |
| nathany | (lan port 1) | 00:25 |
| nkinkade | No ping responses when the router is powering up? | 00:26 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: i | 00:26 |
| nkinkade | You can tell if it's a cross-over just by comparing the ends. | 00:26 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i'll have to go away and come back to tell you re: pings | 00:26 |
| nkinkade | I wouldn't really expect the power light either in that case, but it's worth a look. | 00:26 |
| nathany | nkinkade: right, not a cross over | 00:26 |
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| nathany | brb | 00:26 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: no ping replies | 00:31 |
| nathany | i also retried the tftp to 10.0.2.1 w/ the netmask set correctly (for sure) | 00:31 |
| nathany | no luck | 00:31 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Hmm. That doesn't sound good. | 00:31 |
| nkinkade | http://nuwiki.openwrt.org/oldwiki/OpenWrtDocs/Troubleshooting | 00:31 |
| nathany | it doesn't seem to be accepting tftp | 00:32 |
| nkinkade | That page talks about entering into a "failsafe" mode. | 00:32 |
| nkinkade | You should be able to ping the router for a few seconds as it boots .... | 00:32 |
| nkinkade | If you're not getting any ping replies then I suspect there is some larger problem. | 00:32 |
| nkinkade | It talks about turning the power on and then just after the DMZ lights up holding the reset button for 2 seconds. | 00:33 |
| nathany | nkinkade: it's not clear to me that failsafe mode does anything useful to us, does it? | 00:34 |
| nkinkade | It says that OpenWRT will boot with a telnet server running. | 00:34 |
| nathany | right, but is that useful? | 00:34 |
| nkinkade | A login would be useful to reset the root password. | 00:35 |
| nathany | ok, i'll try that | 00:35 |
| nathany | nkinkade: er | 00:35 |
| nkinkade | If we can login normally then we can flash from there. | 00:35 |
| nathany | but it won't have mounted the drive yet... so i'll need to... chroot? | 00:35 |
| nkinkade | It won't have mounted the drive?? | 00:36 |
| nathany | If you want to attempt to fix the JFFS2 partition, mount it with the following command: | 00:36 |
| nathany | /sbin/mount_root | 00:36 |
| nathany | (from that page) | 00:36 |
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| nathany | or do i not understand what the jffs2 partition is? | 00:36 |
| nkinkade | That doc says you can mount it with /sbin/mount_root | 00:37 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^ | 00:37 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Don't forget that the Sonicwall is there. | 00:37 |
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| nkinkade | You could always just setup the office with that and then take the Linksys home or let JED3 take it home and someone could work with it at their leisure. | 00:38 |
| nathany | nkinkade: didn't the sonicwall have some issue? support contract that ran out or something? | 00:38 |
| nkinkade | The support contract ran out, yeah. | 00:38 |
| nkinkade | But it still works fine. | 00:38 |
| nkinkade | Or at least it did last time I plugged it in 1.5+ years ago. | 00:39 |
| nathany | ugh | 00:39 |
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| nathany | ok, i'm going to try and plug in the sonic wall and see if it just works | 00:40 |
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| nathany | damn it, this is fucking annoying | 00:40 |
| nkinkade | Welcome to the world of free software. | 00:41 |
| nkinkade | ;-) | 00:41 |
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| nathany_ | nkinkade: we're up on the sonic wall | 00:51 |
| nkinkade | nathany_: Did it Just Work? | 00:52 |
| nathany_ | unfortunately, ye | 00:52 |
| nathany_ | yes | 00:52 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 00:52 |
| nathany_ | ok, i'm going to send cc-staff an email and get the fuck out of here | 00:52 |
| nkinkade | Well, not you or someone else can do the Linksys calmly from home whenever there is time. | 00:52 |
| nkinkade | *now | 00:52 |
| nathany_ | :) | 00:53 |
| nkinkade | Okay. Thanks for looking into that. | 00:53 |
| nathany_ | btw, Carol's "objectionable image" is total crap | 00:53 |
| nkinkade | Sorry it turned out to be such a pain. | 00:53 |
| nathany_ | it's a piece of art | 00:53 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade: no problem | 00:53 |
| nathany_ | not your fault | 00:53 |
| nkinkade | It's a piece of art, but it shouldn't be searching for "Enter search query" | 00:54 |
| nkinkade | That is a bug in my view, and the cause of those weird images coming up. | 00:54 |
| nkinkade | And I can see how a school teach might not want abstract art with penises to be the default. | 00:54 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade: yes, i concur re: bug | 00:54 |
| nathany_ | and think teachers should chill the fuck out | 00:55 |
| nathany_ | :) | 00:55 |
| nkinkade | haha | 00:55 |
| nkinkade | And get paid more money to do it? | 00:55 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 00:55 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 00:55 |
| nathany_ | nkinkade: yes | 00:56 |
| nathany_ | always yes | 00:56 |
| nathany_ | ttyl | 00:56 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 02:19 |
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| sparr | Is there a standard way to use two CC licenses for one work, when indicating the licensing electronically (such as XMP tags on a JPG or PNG file)? | 06:56 |
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| jibot | paulproteus is Asheesh Laroia & TWiki: asheesh.org & blogs.jhu.edu! & aka Johnny Pancakes & wiki.jhu.edu! & quotes blog: blogs.jhu.edu/~gooftroop & kindablog: blogs.jhu.edu/~paulproteus & back from uganda - blog at http://uganda.laroia.net/ & hash-joiito@asheesh.org & DanMark approved for humor & graduated from jhu.edu in '07 & on Creative Commons tech staff & seeing robots where there are none & a crayon | 09:06 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 15:24 |
| nathany | nkinkade: just fyi, i managed to add the firewall rule and things seem to be sane-ish on the network here | 15:34 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Cool. | 15:34 |
| nkinkade | I guess that takes any pressure off fixing up the Linksys. | 15:34 |
| nathany | right | 15:34 |
| nathany | i'm probably just going to order a new one; we've already passed the point of this being worth my time | 15:35 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Will you add a DNAT rule that sends port 22 to 10.0.2.10? | 15:35 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sure, one second | 15:35 |
| nathany | nkinkade: try it now | 15:37 |
| nkinkade | nathany: What's the IP? | 15:37 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: sent in priv msg | 15:39 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That worked. Thanks. | 15:39 |
| nathany | great | 15:40 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 15:51 |
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| nathany | JED3: just happened to think, does the renewal reminder check the gratis status of accounts before sending emails? | 17:07 |
| JED3 | nathany: yes | 17:08 |
| JED3 | http://dpaste.com/96829/ | 17:08 |
| nathany | JED3: awesome, you're a step ahead of me :) | 17:08 |
| JED3 | just fixed those errors reported in our inboxes | 17:09 |
| nathany | great | 17:09 |
| JED3 | anywhere i should add logging before I switch branches ;) | 17:09 |
| JED3 | ? | 17:09 |
| nathany | JED3: not that I can think of off the top of my head | 17:10 |
| JED3 | alrighty git checkout webcitations it is then | 17:10 |
| nathany | :) | 17:10 |
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| JED3 | mralex: http://bit.ly/CHa8F | 17:11 |
| mralex | i saw a really sleek time tracker a couple days ago | 17:11 |
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| JED3 | did it track app window focus times? | 17:12 |
| JED3 | i wanted to find out which apps I spend most of my time in | 17:12 |
| mralex | hm, nope | 17:12 |
| JED3 | other than the application timers, myMacTime is nothing special, but it was the only the thing i could find that did what i wanted | 17:13 |
| mralex | does this track application focus time? | 17:13 |
| JED3 | yes | 17:13 |
| JED3 | run the trial and try it out | 17:13 |
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| nathany | JED3: FYI I just pushed another tiny improvement to the profile admin | 17:19 |
| mralex | whoever twittered from @creativecommons jsut now, you did urls wrong. | 17:22 |
| nathany | mecredis: ^^ | 17:27 |
| mralex | weird, it works now! | 17:29 |
| mralex | it was going to about.com | 17:29 |
| mecredis | deleted & fixed | 17:29 |
| mecredis | yeah, bitly borks 1/100 urls like that | 17:29 |
| mecredis | I can't explain it | 17:29 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Your JS popup div on zupport looks great. | 17:46 |
| mralex | nkinkade: great! melissa thinks the colours need a little tweaking, for the campaign. but otherwise, i'm happy with it. | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, colors aside, they layout is great, it's easy to read, the default options make sense. I think this is a great improvement. I'm now working to get it to support recurring contributions. | 17:48 |
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| jibot | akozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god | 18:14 |
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| sparr | Is there a standard way to use two CC licenses for one work, when indicating the licensing electronically (such as XMP tags on a JPG or PNG file)? | 18:50 |
| nathany | sparr: you'd just specify both as licenses | 18:57 |
| nathany | i'm not sure any of the XMP tools support that directly | 18:57 |
| nathany | but IIRC the data model would | 18:58 |
| sparr | do you put both licenses in one field? | 18:59 |
| sparr | or two copies of the same field? | 18:59 |
| sparr | if the former, is there some delimiter other than a space? | 19:00 |
| nathany | sparr: the latter | 19:00 |
| nathany | since XMP is an RDF-like model | 19:00 |
| sparr | is there any way to associate the second instance of field A with the second instance of field B? | 19:00 |
| nathany | sparr: not sure what you mean by that... can you give a concrete example? | 19:01 |
| sparr | don't have the list of XMP fields in front of me but... | 19:01 |
| sparr | LICENSE: CC-BY-SA | 19:01 |
| sparr | LICENSE: CC-BY-NC | 19:01 |
| sparr | LICENSE-URL: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-SA/3.0/ | 19:02 |
| sparr | LICENSE-URL: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ | 19:02 |
| nathany | sparr: IIRC XMP just allows you to specify the license by URL | 19:02 |
| nathany | it's been a while since i looked so i'm probably not the best person to ask | 19:02 |
| sparr | but then there might be a different CONTACT for each of the two licenses | 19:03 |
| sparr | ok, i'll hang out for a while | 19:03 |
| sparr | it's not exactly an urgent question | 19:03 |
| sparr | I've got a few thousand photos published as CC-BY-SA and I want to dual license them as CC-BY-NC | 19:03 |
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| jibot | akozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god | 20:25 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: - [ ] Additional assertions are added to the license RDF file | 21:14 |
| paroneayea | asserting the dct:language of the legalcode. | 21:14 |
| paroneayea | 21:14 | |
| paroneayea | what's dct: in this instance? | 21:15 |
| nathany | paroneayea: that's probably an inconsistency with the proposed syntax for adding legalcode | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | did you mean dc: ? | 21:15 |
| nathany | dct is dc terms | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | oh | 21:15 |
| nathany | perhaps DCQ in the file | 21:15 |
| paroneayea | ah, yep | 21:15 |
| nathany | (in support.py) | 21:15 |
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| paroneayea | so the snippet of rdf would look like: | 21:17 |
| paroneayea | <cc:legalcode dct:language="sr_LATIN" rdf:resource="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/pr/legalcode"/> | 21:17 |
| paroneayea | correct? | 21:17 |
| paroneayea | er, dcq:language | 21:18 |
| nathany | paroneayea: no | 21:20 |
| nathany | you can't have extra attributes on a triple that refers to another resource | 21:20 |
| paroneayea | ah | 21:20 |
| nathany | outside the jurisdiction definition you'd have something like | 21:20 |
| nathany | <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://legal/code/url"> | 21:21 |
| nathany | <dct:language>sr_LATN</dct:language> | 21:21 |
| nathany | </rdf:Description> | 21:21 |
| nathany | all you need to do is add the triple: | 21:21 |
| nathany | (legalcode_uri, dct:language, 'sr_LATN') | 21:21 |
| nathany | the serializer will handle the rest for you | 21:21 |
| paroneayea | ah okay | 21:21 |
| paroneayea | thanks | 21:21 |
| nathany | (it's good to "forget" that we're using XML -- treating RDF-XML as straight up XML is the cause of much pain) | 21:22 |
| paroneayea | yeah, I'm probably making that mistake far too often | 21:22 |
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| paroneayea | ok, thanks | 21:23 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 22:13 |
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| greg-g | nathany: just thought you should know, I used one of photos of rtkim wearing the "I Love To Share" shirt today in a pressentation (for OneWebDay). :) | 22:19 |
| nathany | lol | 22:19 |
| nathany | awesome | 22:19 |
| nathany | he'll be so please ;) | 22:19 |
| nathany | er, pleased | 22:19 |
| mralex | greg-g: rad. i hope it was the jumping shot. ;) | 22:19 |
| greg-g | mralex: it is the one of him hanging from the gate | 22:20 |
| greg-g | nathany: I hope so, everyone loved it :) | 22:20 |
| mralex | lol | 22:20 |
| mralex | nice | 22:20 |
| nathany | lol | 22:20 |
| greg-g | it was a "this stuff should be shared" click "this is my friend Richard, he loves to share" audience laughs :) | 22:21 |
| nathany | lol | 22:26 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Did Firefox 3.5 not come with the ccSearch engine plugin? | 22:34 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i believe it did | 22:35 |
| nkinkade | Seem to not be in the version that comes in the Ubuntu 9.04 repositories. | 22:35 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, it's not there. | 22:35 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^^ | 22:36 |
| nkinkade | Not sure if this is something we want to follow up or not. | 22:36 |
| nathany | nkinkade: does that version have *any* search plugins? | 22:36 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 22:36 |
| nathany | i thought it was weirdly branded | 22:36 |
| nkinkade | About 7 of them. | 22:36 |
| nkinkade | Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay, Wikipedia, etc. | 22:37 |
| nathany | that's really weird | 22:39 |
| nathany | nkinkade: we should probably look @ the build log/patches and see what's up | 22:40 |
| nathany | at the moment at least file a bug on code | 22:40 |
| akozak | nkinkade: I have cc search on ubuntu... | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | akozak: 9.04? | 22:59 |
| akozak | nkinkade: yea | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | Firefox 3.5.2? | 22:59 |
| akozak | shiretoko, 3.5.2 | 22:59 |
| akozak | (unbranded ff) | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | Did you install it via apt-get or aptitude? | 22:59 |
| akozak | yea, firefox-3.5 | 22:59 |
| akozak | apt-get | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. So did I, but it's not there on my install. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | How long ago did you install it? | 22:59 |
| paroneayea | would there be any difference if installed via aptitude? | 22:59 |
| akozak | maybe you're on unstable? | 22:59 |
| nathany | paroneayea: (no) | 23:00 |
| akozak | hmmm not sure, few weeks | 23:00 |
| paroneayea | xb | 23:01 |
| paroneayea | oops | 23:01 |
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