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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 01:31 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 02:51 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 03:00 |
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| morphles | There is one thing unclear to me, i'm developing(almost finished) a quite simple game that i'll be releasing under GPL, and i want to include some musing to be played in background, i have chosen some tracks from albums that are licensend under creative commons, but one liecense says its shair alike, other no derivative works. | 13:04 |
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| morphles | now is game using music for backround play, considered a derivative work(for me its seems not too much...), and what about share alike, ir track are licensed under share alike, but my game would be gpl (kinda naturaly) isnt there a problem? | 13:05 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 13:46 |
| paroneayea | morning all | 14:29 |
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| paulproteus | Morning, all. | 15:27 |
| paulproteus | Today's a west coast timezone day for me. | 15:27 |
| paroneayea | paulproteus: traveling a lot lately? | 15:28 |
| paulproteus | No, just feeling tired this morning.... | 15:28 |
| paroneayea | oh :) | 15:28 |
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| paroneayea | morphles: I don't think there'd be a problem as plenty of games already do that | 16:00 |
| paroneayea | morphles: the topic of cc + interactive works came up recently... if you check the mailing lists there's some discussion, but it's not totally clear | 16:02 |
| paroneayea | however, I'd think that since even proprietary "applications" like facebook or IE can display cc based images and stuff without "linking" issues | 16:03 |
| paroneayea | that probably the media licensing layer is a separate layer from the code layer | 16:03 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Did you already reflash the router? | 16:04 |
| nkinkade | I missed the calendar item I setup. | 16:04 |
| nathany | nkinkade: nope | 16:04 |
| nkinkade | But I can't seem to login to the router. | 16:04 |
| nathany | weird... can you log into the backup machine? | 16:04 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah, I'm in the backup machine now trying to ssh root@10.0.2.1 | 16:05 |
| nkinkade | But the password I've always used isn't working. | 16:05 |
| nkinkade | Can you give it a shot? | 16:06 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Something may be wrong with the router. I'm nearly sure I'm using the right password and that my keyboard is functional. | 16:12 |
| nkinkade | If you can't login as root either, maybe you could hard-restart it? | 16:12 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 16:14 |
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| nathany_ | nkinkade: ping | 16:28 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Hi. | 16:28 |
| nkinkade | I gather it came back up. | 16:28 |
| nathany_ | yeah, password still no good | 16:28 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That's disappointing, and neither can I login to the backup machine. | 16:29 |
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| jibot | akozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god | 16:32 |
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| nathany_ | paulproteus: ping | 16:34 |
| paulproteus | nathany, pong but I'm about to run out the door and be back in 50m | 16:35 |
| nathany_ | paulproteus: quick question -- did you change the router password @ cc? (just checking) | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | I haven't personally, no. I haven't logged into it since April, I'm pretty sure. | 16:35 |
| nathany_ | thanks | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | I see the discussion here and it confuses me, too. | 16:35 |
| nathany_ | :) | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | No prob. (-: | 16:35 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: re that rss reader: looks good, I need to make a test account and see how it feels. Did you try it out yet? | 17:36 |
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| nathany_ | greg-g: is this an alternative to GOOG Reader? | 17:41 |
| greg-g | nathany_: yeah, http://fastladder.org and http://fastladder.com | 17:44 |
| nathany_ | cool | 17:44 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, haven't yet | 18:17 |
| paulproteus | tty in a bit | 18:17 |
| JED3 | anyone here have experience registering an .im tld? | 18:18 |
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| greg-g | mralex: A) can you view http://creativecommons.org/?p=17837&preview=true and B) if so, can you confirm that the bullets in those bullet points are too close (on top of) the image border? | 18:23 |
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| mralex | greg-g: yes | 18:24 |
| greg-g | mralex: shall I do some funky image boarder stuff (not sure what that would be) or just force the text to start below the image? | 18:24 |
| mralex | greg-g: in the image add: style="margin-right:25px;" | 18:25 |
| mralex | greg-g: and it's "CC BY-NC-SA" not "CC:BY-NC-SA" ;) | 18:25 |
| greg-g | mralex: sweet, that works | 18:25 |
| greg-g | bah, fine, I'm a fan of the colon :) | 18:26 |
| greg-g | thanks, mralex | 18:27 |
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| nathany | mralex: check this out: http://www.growldesign.co.uk/projects/lb/ | 18:59 |
| mralex | nathany: ya, read about that a while back. pretty neat hack. | 19:00 |
| nathany | yeah, it's awesome! | 19:00 |
| nathany | esp since it allows linking to a page with the lightbox open | 19:01 |
| paroneayea | lol | 19:03 |
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| mralex | nathany: the documentation is here: http://carsonified.com/blog/design/css/how-to-create-a-valid-non-javascript-lightbox/ | 19:04 |
| nathany | cool, thanks | 19:04 |
| greg-g | ugh, I was just given the choice at my new job: Mac or PC (and by PC they meant Windows) | 19:13 |
| paroneayea | greg-g: :( | 19:21 |
| paroneayea | can you reformat it? :) | 19:21 |
| greg-g | well, I am going to need to be able to connect to an Exchange server for email/calendar (they disable imap/pop) | 19:24 |
| greg-g | so.... in light of that, Evolution doesn't sound like something I want to trust for work related things | 19:24 |
| paroneayea | hm | 19:25 |
| greg-g | nor Outlook in Wine/Crossover | 19:39 |
| greg-g | I know, I'm as disappointed as you are | 19:39 |
| paroneayea | well you could always run windows in a vm :) | 19:40 |
| greg-g | yeah, if they give me a key | 19:47 |
| greg-g | serial key, that is | 19:47 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: are you able to reach a7.creativecommons.org? | 19:49 |
| nathany | (urg, hating server beach) | 19:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I haven't checked. Let me see. | 19:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm logged into a7 via SSH. | 19:50 |
| nathany | weird | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | The wiki works, too. | 19:50 |
| nathany | ok | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Probably a result of the person who rooted the router and has hijacked DNS. | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | ;-) | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | :-/ | 19:50 |
| nathany | nkinkade: no, it appears that the IP resolves correctly | 19:51 |
| nathany | nkinkade: seems to have resolved itself... weird | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'd flash that router this evening, if possible. | 19:54 |
| nathany | right | 19:55 |
| nkinkade | nathany: In a pinch, that Sonciwall router is still around and should work just fine. | 19:55 |
| nathany | nkinkade: just sent out a notice that i'm going to do it @ 5p this evening | 19:57 |
| nkinkade | I guess it could be the internal flash starting to fail. | 19:57 |
| nkinkade | We'll know soon enough if that's it. | 19:57 |
| nathany | nkinkade: are we going to need to muck around with PPPoE configuration? | 20:00 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 20:00 |
| nkinkade | I guess I forgot to give you those details. | 20:00 |
| nkinkade | I'll reply to the email and outline what you'll need to change and where. | 20:01 |
| nathany | thanks | 20:01 |
| paroneayea | nathany: ping | 20:06 |
| paroneayea | If you wouldn't mind I'd appreciate a code review sometime soon :) | 20:07 |
| paroneayea | no need to be immediate though | 20:07 |
| nathany | paroneayea: on things you've pushed? | 20:08 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 20:08 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: will do; have a couple other things to poke first, i'll try to do it this afternoon | 20:08 |
| paroneayea | cool | 20:08 |
| paroneayea | I'll shoot you a tiny email with where things are at and some particular things to check | 20:08 |
| paroneayea | thx | 20:08 |
| nathany | nkinkade: did you happen to look @ the staff call bot that barfed the traceback to webmaster? | 20:11 |
| nkinkade | Did it? | 20:11 |
| nkinkade | I didn't see that message, or misidentified it as something else. | 20:11 |
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| nkinkade | Oh, it was in my a6 tag folder. | 20:12 |
| nathany | nkinkade: let me know if you want me to look @ it | 20:13 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Sure, another set of eyes will be better. | 20:14 |
| nkinkade | It may have to do with the fact that I deleted this coming weeks call page a couple days ago. | 20:14 |
| nkinkade | I figured the script would create it if necessary ... | 20:15 |
| nkinkade | # Create next week's page. | 20:16 |
| nkinkade | Looks like when it runs on a given day that it will create the following weeks page in advance. | 20:16 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^^ | 20:16 |
| nkinkade | I suspect that this will clear up if I just create the page manually and let the script update it. | 20:17 |
| nathany | nkinkade: try it | 20:17 |
| nathany | i'm not convinced... | 20:17 |
| nathany | (based on the traceback) | 20:17 |
| nkinkade | nathany: You're right, that didn't fix it. | 20:19 |
| nathany | nkinkade: did you change the python interpreter when you updated the cron jobs? | 20:19 |
| nathany | (just curious) | 20:19 |
| nkinkade | nathany: No. | 20:19 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ok | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | I didn't do anything except change the MAILTO variable. | 20:20 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ok, cool | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Is this something you're looking into or should I keep looking? | 20:22 |
| nkinkade | You should know that I did make changes to the Python script last week. | 20:22 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i'm looking | 20:22 |
| nathany | were those changes commited to svn? | 20:22 |
| nathany | (ie, can i find them in the log) | 20:22 |
| nkinkade | http://code.creativecommons.org/viewsvn/pywikipedia/trunk/weekly_teamspace_page_creator.py?r1=12851&r2=13394 | 20:22 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^^ | 20:22 |
| nathany | nkinkade: thanks | 20:23 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yeah, i don't think that has any impact on this | 20:23 |
| nkinkade | I didn't think so, either. | 20:23 |
| nathany | it's like it's finding the wrong version of a JSON library | 20:23 |
| nkinkade | When I did the dry_run tests last week there were no problems and I got emails without a problem. | 20:23 |
| nathany | this is run off a vendor branch, right? | 20:23 |
| nathany | right | 20:24 |
| nathany | did we update from wikimedia recently? | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Nope. Though I did upgrade SMW. | 20:24 |
| nathany | nkinkade: shouldn't matter... | 20:24 |
| nathany | i'll dig a little deeper | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | I'm not aware of anything else I upgraded since last Thursday. | 20:25 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: is there a way to ask dpkg when a package was installed? | 20:31 |
| nathany | paulproteus: nm, i looked @ /var/log/dpkg.log. | 20:34 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i'm not sure why python-json is installed on that box but it's the problem | 20:36 |
| nathany | the pywikimediabot expects simplejson, which has a different API | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Could it come as part of pywikipedia? | 20:36 |
| nathany | no | 20:36 |
| nathany | wait, which? | 20:36 |
| nathany | python-json? | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | Not python-json as a package, but just the code/functionality. | 20:37 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ah, just figured it out a bit more | 20:37 |
| nathany | someone installed python-json (the system package) | 20:38 |
| nathany | which is masking simplejson, which is included with pywikipedia | 20:38 |
| nathany | i'm going to uninstall that and send an email to webmaster + akozak | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Thanks. That would have taken me a long time to figure out, if I figured it out at all. | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | I'm just somewhat relieve that it wasn't my commit that broke it. :-) | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | *relieved | 20:41 |
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| nathany | :) | 20:42 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Looks like python-json was installed by paulproteus back on Sept. 24 of last year. | 20:46 |
| nkinkade | That's the most recent Logwatch message mentioning python-json, and it will report when packages are installed, updated or removed. | 20:46 |
| mralex | nkinkade: updated oneclick on zupport; now handles recurring donations | 21:05 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Cool. Problem is, looks like ContributionProcessor.php may not support them. :-( | 21:06 |
| mralex | :( | 21:06 |
| nkinkade | I may have to do code support for it myself. | 21:06 |
| nkinkade | I don't imagine it would be all that hard. | 21:06 |
| nkinkade | mralex: http://forum.civicrm.org/index.php?topic=9942.new;topicseen#new | 21:08 |
| nkinkade | Not that you needed that URL, but just in case it interested you. | 21:08 |
| nkinkade | I'll be testing that some more in a minute. | 21:08 |
| nkinkade | Been catching up on emails and tasks that stacked up over the weekend. | 21:08 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: from your doc: $ ./bin/license legalcode --list http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/rs/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/rs/legalcode.sr-Cyrl http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/rs/legalcode.sr-Latn | 21:54 |
| paroneayea | for this one I'm not sure what that one's supposed to do | 21:54 |
| paroneayea | you explain the expected outcome of the --add command, but still not sure I follow the --list subcommand | 21:55 |
| nathany | paroneayea: it should list the URIs of cc:legalcode assertions | 21:55 |
| paroneayea | ah, ok | 21:55 |
| nathany | those may not be complete so we may be migrating data from the templates to the RDF (ack!) | 21:55 |
| paroneayea | oh I see. | 21:56 |
| paroneayea | the last two lines were supposed to be output | 21:57 |
| paroneayea | er, the last few uris | 21:57 |
| paroneayea | okay, that makes a whole log more sense. | 21:57 |
| paroneayea | whole *lot* more sense I mean | 21:58 |
| JED3 | nathany: ping | 22:19 |
| nathany | JED3: pong | 22:19 |
| JED3 | your email is in the ADMINS tuple for cc.net | 22:20 |
| nathany | oh, yeah | 22:20 |
| JED3 | since you are on webmaster@ should i remove you from that list? | 22:20 |
| nathany | pull it -- webmaster is fine | 22:20 |
| JED3 | k | 22:20 |
| nathany | thanks | 22:20 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, nathany, Yay, me screwing things up by installing system Python packages |: | 22:20 |
| JED3 | otherwise you'll get doubly spammed with the logger stuff | 22:20 |
| paulproteus | It's as if I were intentionally trolling you guys. | 22:20 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I doubt something you did one year ago is only manifesting now. :-) | 22:21 |
| nathany | paulproteus: yeah, but this just became a problem | 22:21 |
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| jibot | akozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god | 22:32 |
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| JED3 | nathany: can I kill the repo on staging with a fresh clone? | 22:56 |
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| JED3 | re: staging.cc.net | 22:56 |
| nathany | JED3: by repo you mean database? | 23:02 |
| nathany | oh, you mean checkout | 23:02 |
| nathany | yeah, that's fine | 23:02 |
| JED3 | ok | 23:03 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: for the linksys flash | 23:17 |
| nathany | do i still use 192.168.1.1 as the IP even though the router is @ 10.0.2.1 these days? | 23:18 |
| nathany | it's not clear if there should be a "substitute real IP here if you've changed it" | 23:18 |
| JED3 | nkinkade or nathany: fine if I grant the mysql user 'commoner' full privileges? | 23:21 |
| JED3 | on a9 | 23:21 |
| nathany | JED3: on specific databases or on everything? | 23:21 |
| JED3 | well it needs create database... | 23:22 |
| JED3 | for the django test runner to work on mysql | 23:22 |
| nathany | got it | 23:22 |
| nathany | JED3: I'd rather not do full privileges since then it's really similar to root; how about "grant create database", followed by grant all privileges? | 23:22 |
| nathany | (on the specific database names) | 23:23 |
| JED3 | nathany: is it possible to grant all priveleges for a database that doesn't exist? | 23:23 |
| nathany | JED3: I believe so; those privileges are stored in another table with varchar fields | 23:23 |
| JED3 | okay, I'll check it out | 23:24 |
| nathany | cool | 23:24 |
| nathany | if it doesn't work, your suggestion is fine, i'd just like to maintain the illusion we care about this sort of thing :) | 23:24 |
| JED3 | :D, agreed | 23:24 |
| JED3 | nathany: will you have a minute or two to review the new reminder templates and the logging once I get staging up and running? | 23:25 |
| nathany | JED3: sure, just ping me | 23:26 |
| JED3 | cool | 23:26 |
| akozak | nathany: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Recover_from_a_Bad_Flash | 23:54 |
| nathany | akozak: thanks | 23:54 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I just got back from the store. | 23:58 |
| nkinkade | The firmware will come with the factory IP settings. | 23:58 |
| nathany | nkinkade: right, but when i'm tftp-ing, i'll want to tftp to the current IP, right? | 23:59 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I don't think so. | 23:59 |
| nathany | ok | 23:59 |
| nkinkade | I think the device falls back to some settings stored elsewhere. | 23:59 |
| nathany | "falls back"? | 23:59 |
| nkinkade | If you run into some big problems you can always give me a call. | 23:59 |
| nathany | but i'm just booting | 23:59 |
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