| mralex | nkinkade: i'm reviewing the oneclick/pcp stuff... is oneclick ready to go on support.cc, just waiting for my JS? | 00:01 |
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| mralex | or are we zupport bound right now | 00:01 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I think so, but let me be sure about that tomorrow. | 00:02 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 00:37 |
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| paroneayea | hello | 15:10 |
| greg-g | hi | 15:17 |
| * paulproteus waves | 15:18 | |
| paulproteus | It looks like WebFaction is actually a really good deal. | 15:18 |
| paroneayea | I used webfaction for a while, and then left for linode | 15:18 |
| paroneayea | they are nice, as far as shared hosting goes, but... you still don't have much control at all | 15:19 |
| paulproteus | Interesting, I'm thinking of leaving linode for them. | 15:19 |
| paroneayea | ie, what if you need to run a jabber server, or something? you need to file a ticket to get a port opened for you | 15:19 |
| paulproteus | At least, moving the web app there, and leaving some other more shell-type things on the linode. | 15:19 |
| paroneayea | installing any web framework that's not through their web interface (which tends to have rather outdated stuff) is usually pretty difficult | 15:20 |
| paroneayea | anyway, that's how I felt | 15:20 |
| paroneayea | what's your reason for considering a switch? | 15:20 |
| paroneayea | resources? | 15:21 |
| paroneayea | as in, bandwidth, disk, memory? | 15:21 |
| paulproteus | Maybe I'll just try it. | 15:21 |
| paulproteus | But memory, primarily, is what I'm running into on the linode. | 15:21 |
| paulproteus | Plus I don't want to fiddle with web server configuration files anymore. | 15:22 |
| paulproteus | If they can handle /static/ => nginx, great, I don't want to. | 15:22 |
| paulproteus | I'm considering moving up to a dedicated box instead, but I know I don't need that right now. | 15:22 |
| paroneayea | yeah, memory is definitely the biggest crunch on a virtual box | 15:23 |
| paulproteus | Plus they (claim to) do backups. | 15:24 |
| paroneayea | heh, yeah I'm not backing up my linode currently :\ | 15:24 |
| paroneayea | that is a bit nervewracking | 15:25 |
| paroneayea | I should really just set up an rsync cronjob or something I guess | 15:25 |
| paulproteus | Dirvish is pretty nice. | 15:26 |
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| nkinkade | Dirvish does work well, and I backup my linode to rose.makesad.us. ;-) | 16:21 |
| nkinkade | (using Dirvish) | 16:22 |
| paulproteus | For some reason I seem to end up with rsync deadlocks when I use dirvish lately to back up *from* rose. | 16:22 |
| paulproteus | I find it very confusing. | 16:22 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. Fortunately, my linode only has a few gigabytes total, and it doesn't change very often, so the nightly dirvish backup probably transfer very little data. | 16:25 |
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| jibot | akozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god | 16:43 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: did you move the QB files for Ted to the server? | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 16:50 |
| nathany | what's the IP of that again? | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | And it backups up each night to a9. | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | 10.0.2.10 | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | And I think it may be down. | 16:50 |
| nathany | thanks | 16:50 |
| nathany | his shortcut is giving an error, just going to log in and see if it crashed or something | 16:51 |
| nkinkade | It's funny you should write, because not 15 seconds I ago I tried to SSH to the machine and got a "no route to host error" | 16:51 |
| nathany | hrm | 16:51 |
| nathany | not responding to pings | 16:51 |
| nathany | yeah, i'll reboot | 16:51 |
| nkinkade | I was just about to write you to ask you to take a look. | 16:51 |
| nkinkade | I had noticed that I didn't get the summary of the day's backups or a Logwatch report, so I was checking on it. | 16:52 |
| nathany | i just rebooted | 16:53 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 16:53 |
| nkinkade | I don't know why this happens every couple months, but it does. | 16:54 |
| nathany | yeah, i just added another item to my task list to look @ replacing that | 16:55 |
| nkinkade | Interesting, the last message in kern.log.0 is from Sept. 9, and the first message from kern.log is from today. | 16:56 |
| nkinkade | Maybe the kernel was mysteriously quiet for more than a week. | 16:56 |
| nkinkade | I know it was still doing backups. | 16:56 |
| nkinkade | Just seems strange. | 16:56 |
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| jibot | mlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer | 17:00 |
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| AlexandreMBM | O que é uma GPL-CC? | 17:27 |
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| nkinkade | AlexandreMBM: Por casualidad hablas inglés o español? | 17:30 |
| AlexandreMBM | nkinkade, yes, english... | 17:30 |
| nathany | AlexandreMBM: Um wrapper em torno do GPL 2 normais. Não houve diferença legal. (via http://translate.google.com) | 17:30 |
| nathany | AlexandreMBM: it's a wrapper around the GPL 2 | 17:30 |
| nkinkade | Good, english is better for me. :-) | 17:31 |
| nathany | no legal difference, just a deed + metadata for it | 17:31 |
| AlexandreMBM | nkinkade, "What is a GPL-CC?" | 17:31 |
| nkinkade | AlexandreMBM: As nathany was saying, it's not actually a new license. | 17:32 |
| nkinkade | CC has just created a simplified document that describes in plain terms what the GPL permits, prohibits and requires. | 17:32 |
| AlexandreMBM | nkinkade, why it to exists? | 17:32 |
| AlexandreMBM | nkinkade, ah! that page in colors... | 17:33 |
| nkinkade | Licenses are complicated legal documents that not that many people take the time to read. | 17:33 |
| AlexandreMBM | nkinkade, my english is poor | 17:33 |
| nkinkade | Frequently people don't really understand what a license does. | 17:33 |
| nkinkade | Podemos en español, si es más facil. | 17:33 |
| AlexandreMBM | nkinkade, no | 17:34 |
| nkinkade | So CC created a document that describes in simple terms what the GPL requires. | 17:34 |
| AlexandreMBM | nkinkade, I understand | 17:34 |
| nkinkade | AlexandreMBM: The idea is this. If publish something under the GPL and include the full text to the GPL or a link to it ... how many people are really going to read every word and truly understand the license? | 17:35 |
| nkinkade | Probably not that many. | 17:35 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: was RDF a reason for the cc-gpl as well? | 17:35 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I'm not aware that they are related. | 17:35 |
| nathany | JED3: nkinkade: yes, we built a metadata model as well (RDF) | 17:36 |
| nathany | FSF is now hosting their own RDF | 17:36 |
| nkinkade | AlexandreMBM: So instead someone can link to the CC-GPL, which explains in clear terms what it means ... from there, if the person wants to read the full GPL license they can. | 17:36 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 17:49 |
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| greg-g | akozak: so, there is this resource on learn.cc/resources that is a disertation (Open Educational Resources: Motivations, Governance, and Content Protection), it is hosted on the cc.org servers yet it is All Rights Reserved. Just letting you know :) | 17:57 |
| greg-g | akozak: also, the formating of this pdf is a bit, um, non-optimal: http://learn.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hylen.pdf :) | 18:00 |
| akozak | thanks greg-g :) | 18:01 |
| akozak | did you ever get any emails about that resources page? | 18:01 |
| akozak | we were looking to convert it to SMW | 18:01 |
| greg-g | I havne't, and that is a very good idea | 18:03 |
| akozak | ok i'll get back to you on that | 18:04 |
| greg-g | after we fix these stupid mediawiki issues here at Open.Michigan I'm going to try and get SMW installed for us, using a 'normal' wiki is a little restrictive | 18:04 |
| akozak | I can imagine | 18:04 |
| greg-g | and by trying to get it installed I mean repeatedly poking and prodding the sys admin(s) | 18:05 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 18:19 |
| paroneayea | nathany: ./bin/jurisdiction add --lang=es_PR --uri=http://www.creativecommonspr.org/ pr | 18:23 |
| nathany | paroneayea: yes | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | this is what you have in your doc, but the current process is more like: | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | ./bin/jurisdiction --add --lang=es_PR --uri=http://www.creativecommonspr.org/ pr | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | with --add instead of add | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | do you care if it remains like that? | 18:24 |
| nathany | paroneayea: i do not | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | would be less coding to keep things that | 18:24 |
| nathany | consider it a typo :) | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | great :) | 18:24 |
| nathany | paroneayea: btw, have you used argparse? | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | nathany: nope, but I saw the pycon lightning talk on it | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | it looked slick | 18:25 |
| nathany | it's not in the stdlib but i used it recently and liked some of its features | 18:25 |
| nathany | yeah | 18:25 |
| nathany | it might be worth doing a little re-tooling, esp since right now we use optparse to get positional arguments (when the docs indicate it's clearly not a fan of them :) ) | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | well if you're giving me an excuse to play with argparse... :) | 18:26 |
| nathany | :) | 18:26 |
| nathany | i am | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | great. I'll take a look at that then. | 18:26 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Where did you migrate the opened_scripts stuff to? | 18:44 |
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| JED3 | mralex: snow leopard, is it worth it? | 18:47 |
| mralex | JED3: yes, i certainly enjoy the improved performance on my machines | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Nevermind, I found it in the ahab skin. I had just forgot. | 18:48 |
| akozak | nkinkade: its in the ahab theme now, a6:/var/www/opened.creativecommons.org/www/skins/ahab/opened_scripts | 18:48 |
| akozak | ah | 18:48 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 18:48 |
| JED3 | okay, mralex how painful would it be to reformat then install? | 18:49 |
| JED3 | or rather, what will mac leave untouched during an upgradE? | 18:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Do you think it's worthwhile for the one-click script to check referrer? At first it seemed like a modest little attempt to hinder abuse of the script, but I'm wondering if it'll just hinder us in some way??? | 18:53 |
| nkinkade | mralex: ^^ | 18:53 |
| nathany | nkinkade: is there some abuse you envision? | 18:54 |
| nathany | seems like the effect of the abuse is to give us money :) | 18:54 |
| nkinkade | It currently does check referrer. I thought it might hinder the widget from using the script, but would we want the widget to pass the user to /donate so they can look at a premium and newsletters? | 18:54 |
| nkinkade | haha | 18:54 |
| nkinkade | nathany: You make a good point. | 18:54 |
| mralex | nkinkade: does it check for valid query strings? | 18:54 |
| nkinkade | I wasn't sure what abuse I envisioned. | 18:54 |
| nkinkade | mralex: It does some basic validation on the input, but nothing too stringent. | 18:55 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i suspect we'd want the widget to drop @ /donate with the amount filled in... thoughts? | 18:55 |
| nkinkade | I imagine the widget would be about like a PCP in that regard. | 18:55 |
| mralex | nkinkade: related; i'm going to aim to get my JS stuff up on zupport/donate this afternoon | 18:55 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Cool. In response to your question last night about whether this stuff was ready on production .. it is. | 18:56 |
| nkinkade | Once we have a suitable page on zupport that you feel comfortable with, I'll push the thing live. Does that sound okay with you? | 18:56 |
| mralex | sounds good | 18:56 |
| nkinkade | mralex: It would probably be a good idea for you to take a peek at the code of the OneClickDonation.php script to see if anything looks wrong to you .. mostly in terms of improper input validation. | 19:00 |
| nkinkade | It already checks for egregious errors, but really there isn't much the script can do in the event of something really bad, except to just redirect the user to some other place, like maybe /donate | 19:00 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: JED3: I think I'm going to recommend that we reflash the WRT54GL router in the office. | 20:04 |
| nkinkade | It's been acting up lately, and besides there is a newer version of OpenWRT. | 20:05 |
| nkinkade | I'm trying to get openvpn installed on it, but when I run openvpn I get nothing more than "Bus error" | 20:05 |
| nkinkade | and the kernel log buffer is filled with ip_conntrack messages like: | 20:06 |
| nkinkade | ip_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. | 20:06 |
| nkinkade | Something is not normal, and I was seeing some strange stuff a couple weeks ago ... more "Bus error" stuff, but related to a diff. program ... at that time JED3 rebooted the router for me. | 20:06 |
| nkinkade | I think we're better off at this point just reflashing, and with the lastest firmware. | 20:07 |
| nkinkade | It's currently got Kamikaze 7.07, but 8.09 (at least) is available. | 20:07 |
| nathany | nkinkade: great; the network has seemed slow lately | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | I don't doubt it. | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | I don't know what's causing those ip_conntrack errors, but the result can't be anything good. | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | I can only imagine that it's wreaking havoc on the internal network ... lots of TCP retransmissions. | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Do you think you might be able to reflash the device one of these days soon? | 20:11 |
| nathany | nkinkade: if you point me to sane instructions :) | 20:11 |
| nkinkade | I'm going to take a walk around the block, but when I get back I'll point you to some good instructions that should be pretty simple. | 20:12 |
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| paroneayea | okay so I'm pretty confused | 20:26 |
| paroneayea | in *both* license.rdf versions, git and svn | 20:26 |
| paroneayea | ./bin/jurisdiction --add xx | 20:26 |
| paroneayea | you'd think it would add one section | 20:26 |
| paroneayea | but it seems to change the whole document up? | 20:26 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: "whole document"? | 20:27 |
| nathany | oh | 20:27 |
| paroneayea | jurisdictions.rdf | 20:27 |
| nathany | right... the "problem" with RDF is that there are many ways to serialize it | 20:28 |
| akozak | nkinkade: any thoughts re: dd-wrt vs. openwrt? | 20:28 |
| nathany | ie, order doesn't matter | 20:28 |
| paroneayea | :o | 20:28 |
| nathany | so it's possible when we read the graph into memory, twiddle, and re-serialize, it's a different serialization | 20:28 |
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| paroneayea | that seems unfortunate | 20:28 |
| nathany | i suppose | 20:29 |
| nathany | it's a "feature" :) | 20:29 |
| nathany | you could easily write a validation function that takes two graphs and returns the delta (if you wanted to, say, for testing) | 20:29 |
| paroneayea | I thought the version in git was broken and I was trying to figure out why | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | but nope, should have tried it in svn sooner | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | well okay | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | hm | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | it doesn't make for as clean of a revision control history anyway :) | 20:30 |
| nathany | right | 20:30 |
| nathany | paroneayea: it might be worth looking at the rdf library docs and see what the serializer configuration options are | 20:31 |
| nathany | maybe there's one that's slightly slower but order preserving | 20:31 |
| nathany | i agree that the messy version history is annoying | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I don't have any input on the DD-WRT vs OpenWRT thing. | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | We installed OpenWRT on the CC router over 2 years ago and that was the first time I ever used it. Now I have it on my own router. | 20:37 |
| akozak | Just curious if you had strong feelings about it :) I've been using DD-WRT for my routers. | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | I just use it because it seems to work and do what I need. | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Since we've already got OpenWRT installed I can actually do the flash from here. | 20:42 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Couple things... I'm going to be helping Michelle tomorrow with a batch move of most case studies page to a subpage of Case Studies. Is there any way you could update SMW from 1.4.2 to 1.4.3 so that Special:ExportRDF works for categories, and do I have enough permissions to run a mediawiki maintenance script on a7? | 20:46 |
| nkinkade | akozak: will the old case study page URLs become invalid. | 20:46 |
| nkinkade | ? | 20:46 |
| akozak | nkinkade: I don't think so, just turn into redirects/ | 20:47 |
| nkinkade | Ah. | 20:47 |
| akozak | I'm pretty sure that's how moveBatch.php works | 20:47 |
| akozak | I don't nec. need permissions | 20:47 |
| akozak | I could just give you the page list txt | 20:48 |
| akozak | and the command to run it | 20:48 |
| nathany | nkinkade: awesome | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I just don't know if it will reboot itself or if it'll require manual intervention. | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | It'd be best if someone was there. | 20:50 |
| nathany | nkinkade: makes sense | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | Don't know when would be the most convenient time to do it. | 20:50 |
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| nkinkade | akozak: I upgraded SMW on the CC Wiki to 1.4.3 | 20:58 |
| nkinkade | And you should have permissions to run any maintenance script | 20:59 |
| akozak | nkinkade: thanks! | 21:00 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Any thoughts on a time for the upgrade to the router? | 21:01 |
| akozak | I'm really nervous about this batch move. Is there anything I can do to make it safer? | 21:01 |
| nkinkade | Any time works for me, basically, as long as someone is around to pick up the pieces if it goes to shit. | 21:01 |
| nkinkade | ;-) | 21:01 |
| akozak | do it now! net is so slow | 21:01 |
| akozak | :) | 21:02 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Don't worry. We'll just backup the database prior to the upgrade. If it falls to pieces we'll restore the backup. | 21:02 |
| akozak | nkinkade: you're talking about the wiki and not the router right? | 21:02 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I'm talking about the wiki changes. | 21:03 |
| akozak | ok, then i'll let you know before I run anything | 21:03 |
| akozak | nkinkade: one other thing... I need the limit of the RDF dumped by the Special:ExportRDF page changed, which is hardcoded into the script that does it. | 21:04 |
| akozak | If I don't have permissions, that is... let me check | 21:04 |
| akozak | (permissions to change it myself) | 21:04 |
| nkinkade | akozak: You may not. I think it's all owned by me. :-) | 21:05 |
| akozak | ok, let me find where that limit is set | 21:05 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: monday AM? | 21:09 |
| nathany | tomorrow is busy for me | 21:09 |
| akozak | nkinkade: line 696 of a7:/var/www/wiki.creativecommons.org/www/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/ExportSMW_SpecialOWLExport.php, change to = 500. | 21:09 |
| nathany | akozak: yes, you can make it safer; don't ;) | 21:09 |
| nathany | (just kidding) | 21:09 |
| akozak | nathany: must be done! | 21:10 |
| akozak | you could always take over this project :) | 21:10 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Monday is fine. I expect that it'll be an operation of about 2 or 3 minutes. | 21:10 |
| nathany | akozak: "must" ? | 21:10 |
| nathany | i suspect that's a lie | 21:10 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sounds good | 21:10 |
| akozak | well I mean not in the metaphysical sense | 21:10 |
| nathany | :) | 21:10 |
| akozak | must in that the great mlinksva recommended it | 21:11 |
| akozak | which is pretty close to metaphysical necessity | 21:11 |
| nathany | got it | 21:15 |
| nathany | nkinkade: I'll trust you to put the upgrade on your calendar and ping me Monday AM :) | 21:15 |
| nkinkade | akozak 100 is now 500. | 21:17 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Thanks! testing... | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | How's that for metaphysics? | 21:17 |
| akozak | huzzah, worked | 21:17 |
| akozak | I suppose now I just have to trust that the RDF label property is the same as the page name | 21:18 |
| akozak | can't imagine a case where it isn't though.... | 21:18 |
| paroneayea | yep, so there's no way to preserve ordering with librdf | 21:44 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Did ccSearch ever have some kind of favico? | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | n | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | Could/should I just use the one from CC.org? | 22:06 |
| mralex | yeah | 22:25 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 22:27 |
| paroneayea | nathany: ping | 22:56 |
| nathany | paroneayea: pong | 22:56 |
| paroneayea | nathany: just to be clear I'm doing the right thing I think I'm supposed to be doing here :) | 22:59 |
| nathany | sure :) | 22:59 |
| paroneayea | - [ ] The jurisdiction code (pr in this example) is used to populate | 22:59 |
| paroneayea | the translation string | 22:59 |
| paroneayea | here you were talking about in questions.xml, correct? | 22:59 |
| nathany | paroneayea: let me go look @ that document | 22:59 |
| paroneayea | kay | 22:59 |
| nathany | paroneayea: I was referring to using the jurisdiction code to populate the translation template for things like dc:title | 23:01 |
| nathany | http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Managing_Translations#Updating_translations_in_cc.licenserdf is probably no help at all | 23:01 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: i probably need to construct an example of what i'm thinking about | 23:02 |
| nathany | since this will come up in the license stuff, too | 23:02 |
| paroneayea | :o | 23:02 |
| paroneayea | ah okay | 23:03 |
| nathany | :) | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | well good thing I checked. | 23:03 |
| nathany | wrt questions.xml... | 23:03 |
| nathany | hrm, yeah, i guess it needs to have the jurisdiction added there now that you mention that | 23:03 |
| nathany | but it should only happen for launched jurisdictions | 23:03 |
| nathany | (does that make sense?) | 23:04 |
| paroneayea | uh, hm | 23:04 |
| paroneayea | not yet :) | 23:04 |
| paroneayea | let me look | 23:04 |
| nathany | ok | 23:05 |
| nathany | paroneayea: there's a question for jurisdiction and an enum of values (the jurisdictions) | 23:05 |
| nathany | so they'll need to be added there | 23:05 |
| nathany | although maybe that should be handled during the "translation" step (http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Managing_Translations#Updating_questions.xml) | 23:05 |
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| paroneayea | okay | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | yes, makes sense now | 23:06 |
| nathany | great :) | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | hopefully anyway :) | 23:07 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: i just pushed a change to license.rdf.git | 23:09 |
| nathany | (or pushing now) | 23:09 |
| nathany | paroneayea: see http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/license.rdf.git/commit/?h=packageify&id=61680691f11bb7150fbc1c2902d9e54b3e934a91 | 23:10 |
| paroneayea | f | 23:13 |
| paroneayea | er | 23:13 |
| paroneayea | oops | 23:13 |
| paroneayea | ah okay | 23:13 |
| nathany | paroneayea: any clearer? | 23:13 |
| paroneayea | kinda :) | 23:13 |
| paroneayea | so is that what will actually appear in there | 23:14 |
| paroneayea | ${country.xx} | 23:14 |
| paroneayea | or is this placeholder for something smarter I should be substituting in :) | 23:14 |
| paroneayea | and if that's what's supposed to be there, how do we expect to use this in the future? | 23:14 |
| nathany | paroneayea: that's what will actually appear there | 23:14 |
| paroneayea | okay | 23:14 |
| paroneayea | that's pretty easy then | 23:14 |
| nathany | paroneayea: we plan to use it with a new/updated tool described at http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Managing_Translations#Updating_translations_in_cc.licenserdf | 23:15 |
| paroneayea | ah okay | 23:15 |
| paroneayea | got it. | 23:15 |
| nathany | that will look for assertions where the language is "i18n" (which is just a special placeholder" and when it finds one, use the PO files to generate all the "actual" languages | 23:15 |
| nathany | cool :) | 23:15 |
| paroneayea | shoulda asked for clarification sooner instead of trying to be all smart about it | 23:16 |
| nathany | lol... np | 23:16 |
| paroneayea | moral of the story kids: don't be smart | 23:16 |
| nathany | this has been a great exercise for me to get things out of my head... | 23:16 |
| nathany | :) | 23:16 |
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| nathany | ok, i need to run; email me if anything else comes up, otherwise i'll see you tomorrow | 23:16 |
| paroneayea | okay, cool | 23:16 |
| paroneayea | later nathany | 23:16 |
| nathany | ttyl, paroneayea | 23:17 |
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