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| paulproteus | JED3, pringle | 00:19 |
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| JED3 | hello | 00:19 |
| paulproteus | I'm in a bit of a bind with Django and I thought I'd bug you first. (-: | 00:19 |
| JED3 | sure, whats up | 00:20 |
| paulproteus | I deployed an app without being careful about the site data, and now Django thinks it's hosted at example.com. | 00:20 |
| paulproteus | http://codespatter.com/2009/01/05/django-settings-site-domain-examplecom/ informs me this info is in the DB, and cannot now be changed via settings.py. | 00:20 |
| paulproteus | Is that right? | 00:20 |
| paulproteus | If so, should I maybe "just" write a migration that changes that data? (That way, I can write it against my laptop, and when it's time to deploy, I can just run all the migrations that need to be run.) | 00:21 |
| paulproteus | Or should I just bite the bullet and change it in the DB of the live site? | 00:21 |
| JED3 | that is correct, are you using contrib.admin? | 00:21 |
| paulproteus | We're not really using it for anything, though it's enabled. | 00:21 |
| paulproteus | I know I can edit it via the admin interface, but that doesn't help other developers who have stupid data in their own site info on *their* laptops. | 00:22 |
| paulproteus | I *guess* the site info should be different between laptops and the live site. | 00:22 |
| JED3 | ahh okay, what about including the site information in an initial_data fixture for your app? | 00:22 |
| paulproteus | Sure, I'd be okay with that. But it's already deployed - Django isn't going to look at that now for the live site, right? | 00:23 |
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| JED3 | yeah, not without a manage.py reset or something | 00:24 |
| paulproteus | That sounds scary. | 00:24 |
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| JED3 | I would just write a migration then, less elegant but its sure fire, right? | 00:24 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, sounds reasonable enough to me. Thanks. (-: | 00:25 |
| JED3 | np, 1 more thing, which migration app are you using? ;) | 00:25 |
| paulproteus | I'm pretty unhappy about it, but I'll do it and move on. | 00:25 |
| paulproteus | Sure - we're using South (and quite liking it). | 00:25 |
| JED3 | ahh cool, i'm actually working in South this very moment | 00:25 |
| paulproteus | How are you liking it? | 00:26 |
| JED3 | I like it a lot actually, sqlite3 support wins it hands down for me | 00:26 |
| * paulproteus waits for the PM that flames it to a crisp | 00:26 | |
| pyrak | paulproteus, weird bug report that might not be your fault: signing into openhatch with my wordpress account doesn't work | 00:26 |
| paulproteus | pyrak, Huh, with OpenID? Interesting. File a bug - https://openhatch.org/bugs and assign it to me! | 00:27 |
| paulproteus | (or email all@ ) | 00:27 |
| pyrak | paulproteus, ok, filing a bug | 00:28 |
| JED3 | paulproteus: what is vtiger CRM? | 00:31 |
| * paulproteus runs and hides | 00:35 | |
| paulproteus | It's the fully-Free fork of SugarCRM, anyway. | 00:36 |
| JED3 | ohh okay | 00:36 |
| pyrak | ugh, for some reason hacking on MW always frustrates me | 01:50 |
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| jibot | mecredis is Fred Benenson. He works as Creative Commons' Culture Program Associate in NYC and joined the board of SFC after starting Free Culture @ NYU & Fred Benenson. He founded Free Culture @ NYU and graduated in May of 2005. He currently lives in New York City and works as a freelance web developer and a FreeCulture activist. He may or may not be a board member of FreeCulture.org but has worked for Creative Commons and volunteered for the EFF. & Fred Benenson. | 02:05 |
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| pyrak | redundancy police | 02:27 |
| greg-g | redundancy police | 02:33 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 02:35 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 06:15 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 07:03 |
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| kk | need cc numbers can you help | 11:25 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 13:21 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 13:38 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 14:35 |
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| papyromancer_ | I always smile when someone like kk comes in here looking for credit card numbers ;P | 14:52 |
| papyromancer_ | ?def 'cc number' is 'for credit card numbers email ic3@fbi.giv' | 14:56 |
| jibot | 'cc is not defined yet... | 14:56 |
| papyromancer_ | ?def cc\ number is 'for credit card numbers email ic3@fbi.giv' | 14:56 |
| jibot | cc\ is not defined yet... | 14:56 |
| papyromancer_ | ?def creditcards is for credit card numbers email ic3@fbi.giv | 14:57 |
| jibot | creditcards is for credit card numbers email ic3@fbi.giv | 14:57 |
| papyromancer_ | ?def | 14:57 |
| jibot | is | 14:57 |
| papyromancer_ | ?def creditcards | 14:57 |
| jibot | creditcards is for credit card numbers email ic3@fbi.giv | 14:57 |
| papyromancer_ | ?forget creditcards | 14:58 |
| papyromancer_ | ?def cc# is foundz 4 l33t = ic3@fbi.gov | 14:59 |
| jibot | cc# is foundz 4 l33t = ic3@fbi.gov | 14:59 |
| papyromancer_ | excuse me | 14:59 |
| papyromancer_ | ?def cc# | 14:59 |
| jibot | cc# is foundz 4 l33t = ic3@fbi.gov | 14:59 |
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| jibot | mecredis is Fred Benenson. He works as Creative Commons' Culture Program Associate in NYC and joined the board of SFC after starting Free Culture @ NYU & Fred Benenson. He founded Free Culture @ NYU and graduated in May of 2005. He currently lives in New York City and works as a freelance web developer and a FreeCulture activist. He may or may not be a board member of FreeCulture.org but has worked for Creative Commons and volunteered for the EFF. & Fred Benenson. | 15:03 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 15:39 |
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| * paroneay` is at the portland airport | 16:00 | |
| paroneay` | portland is so nice! | 16:01 |
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| jibot | mlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer | 16:04 |
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| aurelia | hey tech people, Michelle in Germany just pointed out to me that my name is spelled wrong when it comes up with my email. It's correct in the email address; it's the <name> part that's wrong. Is there a way to get this fixed? | 16:21 |
| mlinksva | aurelia: which mail client are you using? generally you set your name for outgoing email in the client | 16:27 |
| aurelia | mlinksva it's my cc email. Do I have control over the name part? | 16:28 |
| mlinksva | if you mean the cc gmail interface, go to https://mail.google.com/a/creativecommons.org/#settings/accounts | 16:28 |
| mlinksva | click edit info | 16:28 |
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| aurelia | mlinksva thanks! I just added the correct spelling as a second option. :) | 16:33 |
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| mlinksva | aurelia: ah, i didn't realize there was a name setting tied to the acct. your primary name is now correct | 16:38 |
| aurelia | mlinksva thank you | 16:39 |
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| nathany | JED3: I can do this whenever you're ready | 17:22 |
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| aurelia | Thought people here might be interested in this: Carrier Pigeon faster than Internet http://www.techmasai.com/2009/09/10/telcom-south-africa-turns-out-to-be-slower-than-a-carrier-pigeon-ouch/ | 18:04 |
| mralex | with the advent of high capacity flash drives, IP over avian carrier data rates have increased substantially | 18:08 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 18:25 |
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| remaxim | hi | 18:49 |
| remaxim | ping greg-g | 18:49 |
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| greg-g | remaxim: pong | 19:04 |
| remaxim | hey greg-g | 19:04 |
| remaxim | I kinda hoped you could help me shortly... after I posted to the mailing list I got a great amount of answer | 19:05 |
| greg-g | I'm glad it helped | 19:05 |
| remaxim | which soon became discussion on similar stuff (at least I felt like that) and now I don't really know if the discussion is finished already or someone will answer to me anymore | 19:06 |
| greg-g | remaxim: well, in most cases, mailing lists discussions just stop at a natural point, no one really gives "a final answer" | 19:08 |
| remaxim | greg-g, ah, ok... thanks | 19:08 |
| greg-g | so, if you feel you want to talk about it more, you can pick up certain parts of the discussion and ask questions | 19:08 |
| greg-g | but just try not to repeat yourself | 19:09 |
| remaxim | mike linksvayer said it is a complicated issue and he doesn't really know the answer to it... so I guess it means BY-SA isn't secure enough for me | 19:09 |
| remaxim | that's the only thing that I want to know right now... I already asked it in the ML | 19:09 |
| greg-g | it all depends on your definition of "secure" | 19:09 |
| remaxim | do you remember the discussion we had earilier? | 19:10 |
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| greg-g | yes, but I don't ahve time to fully discuss it right now, sorry remaxim | 19:10 |
| remaxim | greg-g, no... I meant I already defined secure | 19:11 |
| greg-g | again, my personal suggestion is to use BY-SA for stuff you want in Open Source anything, and if that isn't an option for you (for whatever reason) then unfortunately you won't be able to contribute to Open Source games | 19:11 |
| remaxim | greg-g, yeah... I also see it as the final answer | 19:12 |
| remaxim | thank you for your great help :) | 19:12 |
| greg-g | I would need to re-read the thread to find your definition of secure | 19:12 |
| greg-g | you are very welcome | 19:12 |
| greg-g | I hope you can contribute to the open source community later | 19:12 |
| remaxim | greg-g, sure... I ll concentrate on writing code and releasing CC-NC music | 19:14 |
| remaxim | no need for re-reading... that takes way too long. once again thanks for the help | 19:14 |
| greg-g | :) | 19:15 |
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| remaxim | hi Legend | 19:24 |
| remaxim | Legend, this is the mailing list I ve told you about: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-community | 19:25 |
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| mecredis | nathany: how did you want to try to prepare the data for Jonathan? | 19:32 |
| mecredis | or rather, what are our first steps? | 19:32 |
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| nathany | mecredis: I don't know yet; was trying to get cc network stuff out this AM, going to look at it after I eat | 19:38 |
| mecredis | got it | 19:39 |
| mecredis | well let me know if I can help, but I'll just let you reply to him | 19:39 |
| mecredis | have a good lunch | 19:39 |
| nathany | sounds good; first step is probably getting the agreement figured out. I was going to email DP, not expecting an answer until post NC study publication | 19:40 |
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| mecredis | yep | 19:40 |
| nathany | i'll follow up with him, though, today | 19:40 |
| mecredis | thanks | 19:40 |
| paulproteus | OT but awesome: http://people.debian.org/~jaldhar/rup/index.html | 19:57 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 20:20 |
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| pyrak | nathany, did you get a chance to poke that ccsearch merge again? | 20:47 |
| nathany | pyrak: no, i haven't | 20:47 |
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| pyrak | i'd be interested to know what the remedy is, and what i did wrong :/ | 20:47 |
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| nathany | pyrak: I saw one commit come through the commits list and it looked like you'd re-initialized the tracking information when you went to merge again... that could be it | 20:54 |
| nathany | not sure | 20:54 |
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| pyrak | ah | 20:56 |
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| remaxim | http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/2009-September/thread.html | 22:23 |
| remaxim | sorry... wrong window | 22:23 |
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| remaxim | I have a very strange question... | 23:04 |
| remaxim | if I have a gpl game with open gl effects written in the code | 23:04 |
| remaxim | and the game media is BY-SA | 23:05 |
| remaxim | what license does a screenshot have if you can see both on it? or does it have any license at all? | 23:05 |
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