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papyromancer_ | I'm collecting user agents to hopefully build a media redirection engine that gives browsers media that they can display based on their capabilities, visit http://avai.lightcorp.net/ to help build the database, takes literally a second (if the dns has propogated in your location). | 06:41 |
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jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 07:10 |
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jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 08:12 |
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jibot | csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca and Sarven Capadisli http://www.csarven.ca | 10:20 |
csarven | ?def csarven | 10:22 |
jibot | csarven is Sarven Capadisli and can be found online at http://www.csarven.ca and Sarven Capadisli http://www.csarven.ca | 10:22 |
csarven | ?forgetme | 10:23 |
jibot | I've forgotten all about csarven | 10:23 |
csarven | ?learn csarven is Sarven Capadisli http://csarven.ca/ | 10:23 |
jibot | csarven is Sarven Capadisli http://csarven.ca/ | 10:23 |
csarven | OK | 10:23 |
csarven | So, I'm wondering about CC 3.0. Couldn't decipher 'Termination' :) | 10:24 |
csarven | If I create some work, and you adapt that work, do I have the right to delete my own work? | 10:24 |
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remaxim | hi | 12:47 |
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greg-g | csarven: yeah, you can delete your work. Just because you licensed it under a CC license doesn't mean we can make you keep the file on a website | 13:28 |
greg-g | (which is point 2) | 13:28 |
greg-g | point 1 is that if _someone else_ violates the terms of the license, all of the license is now invalid and they are fully liable for full copyright infringement | 13:29 |
greg-g | (point 1 is 7.a and point 2 is 7.b from http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode or any of the licenses) | 13:31 |
csarven | Does this than impact attribution? | 13:33 |
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csarven | greg-g Thanks. | 13:43 |
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jibot | mlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer | 14:14 |
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greg-g | csarven: could you rephrase that last question? | 14:33 |
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csarven | greg-g How would you be able to give attribution to me? Do I still have the same rights to my now non-existing (deleted) work? Can some with a copy of my original work be able to relicense it? | 14:39 |
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jibot | akozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god | 14:59 |
greg-g | csarven: I still say "by csvaren, CC:BY-SA" | 15:00 |
greg-g | csarven: and no, no one by yourself can relicense it | 15:00 |
greg-g | s/by/but/ | 15:00 |
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greg-g | csarven: so it does mean that the pratical aspects of giving you attribution are hindered (no link to the original work) but as long as someone has it and knows it is licensed under a CC license, they can use it | 15:02 |
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jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 15:31 |
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jibot | akozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god | 15:41 |
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jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 16:01 |
akozak | this printing problem is really getting on my nerves | 16:02 |
akozak | for some reason my printing jobs only print one page | 16:03 |
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greg-g | akozak: mac/pc/linux? | 16:06 |
akozak | ubuntu | 16:06 |
greg-g | weird, when I was there last summer, it worked flawlessly by just network discovering the printer | 16:07 |
greg-g | on Ubuntu | 16:07 |
akozak | yea | 16:07 |
akozak | still working on it | 16:07 |
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akozak | it works :) | 16:13 |
greg-g | yay | 16:13 |
akozak | it's weird how you can have an annoying problem like that for months and it only takes a few minutes to fix if you really focus on it. | 16:14 |
greg-g | heh, what was the issue? | 16:15 |
akozak | not sure, just re-added the printer this time with a proprietary driver (i think) | 16:15 |
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greg-g | gotcha | 16:15 |
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jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 16:33 |
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jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 17:19 |
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jibot | csarven is Sarven Capadisli http://csarven.ca/ | 17:22 |
csarven | greg-g Thank you for the info. Appreciated | 17:23 |
greg-g | csarven: no problem. | 17:23 |
csarven | The StatusNet software uses CC 3.0 license by default for user notices. We're considering the process we need to go through if/when a user wants to delete their account. The question was whether if we delete such notices that are part of a conversation or not. | 17:25 |
greg-g | ahhh | 17:27 |
greg-g | I guess it comes down to whether or not you want them to be able to delete all of their posts, the CC license doesn't stop them from doing so. | 17:28 |
paulproteus | The CC license is irrevocable, too. | 17:31 |
paulproteus | So if you want to keep the posts on the site, you'd be within your (C) rights, I'd think (IANAL, I don't work for CC). | 17:31 |
akozak | ha | 17:31 |
akozak | You'd be able to keep them provided it's within the rights granted by the license. | 17:32 |
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akozak | it could get tricky with separate terms granting use in the ToS, couldn't it? | 17:32 |
nathany | hi aurelia | 17:33 |
aurelia | hi nathany | 17:33 |
paulproteus | Hi aurelia! | 17:33 |
paulproteus | Thanks for the book! | 17:33 |
mralex | hi aurelia | 17:33 |
greg-g | hi everyone! ;) | 17:34 |
paulproteus | (I'm Asheesh, not some mysterious stranger named Paul.) | 17:34 |
akozak | HELLO | 17:34 |
mralex | hi greg! | 17:34 |
paulproteus | EHLO | 17:34 |
akozak | paulproteus: thanks btw for pointing out problems with the events script, i haven't had time to dive into it yet. | 17:35 |
paulproteus | No prob. | 17:35 |
akozak | I wonder if it's the same empty first line in csv issue | 17:36 |
aurelia | paulproteus, yes, I know it's you; Nathan told me. glad you got the book. hope you enjoy it. | 17:36 |
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greg-g | whoa | 18:00 |
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pyrak | eerie | 18:30 |
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jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 21:13 |
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JED3 | mralex: ping | 23:47 |
mralex | JED3: pong | 23:47 |
JED3 | hey, it looks like you've added some AB testing code to the templates of cc.net, do we still need this or are we finished with the testing? | 23:49 |
mralex | it can be removed | 23:49 |
JED3 | okay cool | 23:49 |
mralex | traffic is so low the test is inconclusive | 23:49 |
pyrak | either of you have ideas for how to include a custom piece of javascript with a semantic form? | 23:50 |
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