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| nkinkade | mecredis: It doesn't look like your using the markup required for that to work. | 00:09 |
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| nkinkade | http://natha.nkinka.de/wordpress_old/ | 00:09 |
| mecredis | hrm | 00:09 |
| mecredis | ok | 00:09 |
| mecredis | thanks | 00:09 |
| nkinkade | Click on the license link there. The Deed display correctly. | 00:09 |
| mecredis | but is it registered on CC network? | 00:10 |
| nkinkade | That doesn't matter. | 00:10 |
| mecredis | no, I know the RDFa is one thing | 00:10 |
| mecredis | but our deeds were recognizing, at some point | 00:10 |
| nkinkade | It will only work if you've used the HTML that CC.net recommends. | 00:10 |
| mecredis | that a referring URL had been registered on CCN | 00:10 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: I'm not aware that they every worked that way. | 00:11 |
| mecredis | and it will say "Fred Benenson's Photoblog Is Registered at ..." | 00:11 |
| mecredis | and give a link to CCN | 00:11 |
| nkinkade | It just scrapes the HTML at the referring site looking for attribution markup, which your site doesn't seem to have. | 00:11 |
| mecredis | wel that's for the attribute box | 00:11 |
| nkinkade | At least that page you linked to. | 00:11 |
| mecredis | one sec | 00:11 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I'm confused about what you are asking. | 00:11 |
| mecredis | our deeds recognize two things | 00:12 |
| mecredis | one is RDFa/ccREL | 00:12 |
| mecredis | another is whether the work has been registered at CCN | 00:12 |
| mecredis | well, they used to do that | 00:13 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: That's news to me. Can you give me an example of the latter? | 00:13 |
| mecredis | no, because its broken | 00:13 |
| mecredis | :/ | 00:13 |
| mecredis | but basically the deed would say | 00:13 |
| mecredis | "This work is registered at the Creative Commons network" | 00:13 |
| mecredis | because it recognized the referring URL | 00:13 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Ask Nathan. I have no idea about the functionality you are talking about. | 00:13 |
| mecredis | yeah | 00:13 |
| mecredis | no biggie | 00:13 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Are you sure it was live? | 00:13 |
| mecredis | pretty sure | 00:13 |
| nkinkade | Maybe it's something still on staging? | 00:14 |
| mecredis | it was definitely live | 00:14 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. Then I have no idea. | 00:14 |
| mecredis | yeah, another example of poor CCN messaging | 00:15 |
| mecredis | heh | 00:15 |
| mecredis | we could do a better job explaining this to people | 00:15 |
| nkinkade | If that feature was rolled out and I never heard about it, then there is definitely something wrong with the communication happening. | 00:27 |
| Bovinity | that was definitely one of the features that came with CCN | 00:39 |
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| paroneayea | Good morning, everyone. | 14:59 |
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| mecredis | JED3: there? | 15:34 |
| mecredis | sitting at your desk, hope that's ok | 15:34 |
| mecredis | in ur cube doin ur rubiks | 15:35 |
| JED3 | haha | 15:35 |
| JED3 | feel free to use the monitor | 15:35 |
| mecredis | ah great | 15:35 |
| mecredis | was going to ask | 15:35 |
| mecredis | thanks | 15:35 |
| JED3 | no porb | 15:35 |
| JED3 | prob | 15:35 |
| mecredis | wow this is deee lux | 15:36 |
| JED3 | yezz | 15:36 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: heya... when's good for you to talk about the translation stuff? | 15:57 |
| nathany | paroneayea: i can chat now if you like | 16:00 |
| paroneayea | cool, sure | 16:00 |
| nathany | do you have specific questions or do you want some general guidance? | 16:01 |
| paroneayea | well, I *think* I've got the template stuff set up. I guess the next step is figuring out how to extract the translation strings | 16:02 |
| paroneayea | there are some notes on these pages on how to do that | 16:02 |
| paroneayea | I could also just try seeing if I am successful at doing that, and if not, start asking you more specific questions | 16:03 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: there's a tool for extracting strings from ZPT; see [i18n] buildout.cfg for cc.engine for an example of pulling it in if needed | 16:03 |
| nathany | (that uses a recipe I wrote; there may be a more modern version installed with zope.i18n these days if you do dependent scripts) | 16:04 |
| paroneayea | ah okay | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | why don't I try taking that route, and if I get confused, we'll talk further | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | unless you have other specific points | 16:05 |
| nathany | paroneayea: great | 16:06 |
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| Bovinity | nathany: did you upload your salon slides to slideshare or otherwise send a pdf to allison? | 17:42 |
| nathany | Bovinity: yes | 17:42 |
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| paulproteus | Want to catch up with me + mlinksva sometime this afternoon, nathany? Otherwise, lunch tomorrow? | 18:54 |
| nathany | paulproteus: either is fine, although both are somewhat busy with Joi in town | 18:55 |
| * paulproteus nods | 18:56 | |
| nathany | lunch looks clear tomorrow for sure, although mlinksva may have a 1p | 18:56 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, nathany, akozak, If you want to (also) lunch today that'd be nice. | 18:58 |
| nathany | paulproteus: I was thinking curry, although I could be persuaded elsewhere (or we could bring it back here for consumption) | 18:59 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Bovinity, I'm thinking Perilla | 19:00 |
| paulproteus | I can bring stuff back even | 19:00 |
| nathany | paulproteus: if you're bringing it back, i'll probably just do curry | 19:00 |
| paulproteus | ACK, nathany | 19:00 |
| Bovinity | grabbing a BLT at some point | 19:00 |
| nathany | paulproteus: let me know when you're heading out | 19:00 |
| akozak | im ok with curry or perilla | 19:01 |
| paulproteus | Perilla! | 19:01 |
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| paulproteus | Leaving in 2m | 19:01 |
| paulproteus | maybe less | 19:01 |
| paulproteus | Hey rafpaf | 19:01 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, eat? | 19:03 |
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| Nerd42 | hey does opensourcecinema.org have an IRC channel anywhere? | 19:30 |
| Nerd42 | (dunno whether they're involved with you guys o rnot) | 19:30 |
| Nerd42 | *or not | 19:30 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, <mikelinksvayer> can we start lunch tomorrow at 11:30? | 20:19 |
| nathany | paulproteus: fine by me | 20:20 |
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| paroneayea | so looking at the buildout recipe, it seems to be compiling .po files to .mo files with msgfmt, I think. But it looks like there's an entrypoint in setup.py that may be the string extraction tool | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | i18nextract = cc.engine.i18n.extract:main | 20:30 |
| paroneayea | is that what I should be looking at? | 20:31 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Do you know anything about PayPal Express Checkout? | 21:07 |
| nkinkade | I was just noticing that it has many of the features we want already. | 21:07 |
| nkinkade | It doesn't seem to be 100% what we want, but maybe 90%. | 21:08 |
| nathany | paroneayea: yes, that's the extraction tool for ZPT | 21:10 |
| nathany | nkinkade: is that the same as website payments pro? | 21:11 |
| nathany | they all run together in my head | 21:11 |
| nkinkade | It's different. | 21:11 |
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| nkinkade | At least from what I can tell. It's a one-click-to-paypal option. | 21:11 |
| nkinkade | The caveat being that the user is directed back to the originating site to confirm everything. | 21:12 |
| nkinkade | It would appear that it might just add a single extra click/pageview to the process. | 21:12 |
| nkinkade | But if it meant we didn't have to write a single line of code, that would be nice. | 21:12 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^^ | 21:12 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i'm not sure i understand how that would help us write less code; let me look @ paypal quick | 21:14 |
| nathany | nkinkade: it looks like express checkout is just for supporting PayPal in addition to your existing credit card payment options | 21:17 |
| nathany | that is, they need to sign up for a paypal account to pay through it | 21:18 |
| nathany | (and it's still not clear how it'd mean less code for us to write) | 21:18 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It looked to me like it could be used as a one-click payment method, more or less. | 21:18 |
| nathany | one click to your paypal account | 21:18 |
| nathany | (i think) | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It seemed that you add a button, the user clicks it and goes directly to paypay where they select shipping address and verify/approve charge, then are redirected to original site. | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | Yes, one click to the PP account, but isn't that precisely what our new idea proposes to do? | 21:19 |
| nathany | nkinkade: how is that different from the website payments? | 21:19 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sort of -- i'm distinguishing between using your PP account and using PP with a credit card (w/o signing up for an account) | 21:19 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: looking at the videos for payments standard and express checkout, the former explicitly calls out that customers don't need an account; the latter explicitly states that they "sign in" | 21:22 |
| nkinkade | Ah, so the current system doesn't require a PP login. | 21:22 |
| nkinkade | Oh well. | 21:23 |
| nathany | right | 21:23 |
| nathany | so if they just want to use their credit card, they can do that | 21:23 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Do you know off-hand how PayPal is able to deliver a shipping address in the IPN if the user has no PayPal account? | 21:25 |
| nathany | nkinkade: they ask for it | 21:25 |
| nathany | (IIRC) | 21:25 |
| nkinkade | All this happens on some unauthenticated session? | 21:25 |
| nathany | i'm not sure what you mean by unauthenticated; it happens over SSL, but doesn't require a log in | 21:26 |
| nkinkade | Yes, that's what I mean. | 21:27 |
| nathany | yes, that's my understanding | 21:27 |
| nkinkade | SSL is encrypted, but that says nothing of authentication. | 21:27 |
| nathany | that's what we're doing now FWIW (w/o the shipping address part) | 21:27 |
| nathany | right, of course | 21:27 |
| nkinkade | Okay. | 21:27 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: got time for a call? | 22:23 |
| nathany | paroneayea: sure | 22:24 |
| nathany | paroneayea: priv msg/IM me the # to call? | 22:24 |
| paroneayea | sure | 22:25 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: This method for manually fetching contributions works well. What are the custom fields you think we'll need? | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | I see that we can create own own invoice numbers, which we could simply use to encode various things. | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | That would probably prevent us from having to modify this CiviCRM script, since it is already configured to process invoice number. | 23:19 |
| nathany | nkinkade: not sure off the top of my head; we're going to need premium information, email sign up, uh... referrer, i guess, for personal campaigns | 23:21 |
| nathany | i suppose we could also just use an auto-incrementing int for the invoice number and store the actual information in our database | 23:21 |
| nathany | just use the invoice number to match up the contribution to the things the user checked off | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That sounds like a reasonable idea. | 23:22 |
| nkinkade | The benefit of doing it that way is that we don't have to modify any of CiviCRM's code ... we just wrap existing things. | 23:22 |
| nathany | if you need more detail, email may be better... my brain is a little melty at the moment | 23:22 |
| nathany | right | 23:22 |
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| nkinkade | No problem. Just bouncing this of your brain. And with it all melty and mushy is seems to rebound things pretty well. | 23:23 |
| nathany | :) | 23:23 |
| akozak | wow , using screen will vastly improve my workflow | 23:34 |
| greg-g | screen ftw | 23:35 |
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| Bovinity | ubercart is odd | 23:47 |
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