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| mecredis | nkinkade: there? | 14:46 |
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| paroneayea | good morning all | 14:57 |
| paulproteus | You too, paroneayea. | 14:57 |
| paroneayea | :) | 14:58 |
| paroneayea | paulproteus: too bad we didn't end up in SF at the same time | 15:00 |
| paroneayea | but, you're going to djangocon, right? | 15:00 |
| paroneayea | so I'll see you there at least | 15:00 |
| paulproteus | paroneayea, Nope, probably not re: Djangocon. |-: | 15:00 |
| paroneayea | aw :( | 15:00 |
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| nkinkade | mecredis: I'm here now. | 15:16 |
| mecredis | nkinkade: great, thanks. so were you planning on using the mapper for the dates | 15:16 |
| mecredis | in the archives on stagi g? | 15:17 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: No. | 15:17 |
| mecredis | Ok. | 15:17 |
| mecredis | how should we try fix that? | 15:17 |
| nkinkade | Re: that long thread where it was agreed we wouldn't | 15:17 |
| mecredis | righht. | 15:17 |
| nkinkade | It's not something that needs fixing, as far as I know. | 15:17 |
| mecredis | hrm | 15:17 |
| mecredis | the drop down on the right? | 15:17 |
| nkinkade | It's working as it is, just not totally consistent with the /weblog/ stuff for archives and posts. | 15:17 |
| mecredis | in staging? | 15:17 |
| mecredis | links like http://creativecommons.org/2009 don't work | 15:18 |
| nkinkade | Ah. | 15:19 |
| mecredis | and those are the links generated by the collapsable sidebar | 15:20 |
| mecredis | widget | 15:20 |
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| nathany | mecredis: when do you arrive in SF? | 16:04 |
| mecredis | tonight | 16:04 |
| nathany | ok, cool | 16:04 |
| mecredis | yeah, I'll be in early tomorrow | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | Cool, see you then (-: | 16:16 |
| mecredis | paulproteus: you'll be around? | 16:16 |
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| paulproteus | Yeah, I'm in SF until Tue 8/25. | 16:16 |
| mecredis | nice | 16:16 |
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| paulproteus | Noooo!!! | 16:21 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: that commuinity tags plugin is kinda wonky | 16:22 |
| mecredis | Bovinity: yeah, not loving it | 16:22 |
| mecredis | the code they offer for install doesn't even work | 16:22 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: i removed the display:none on staging, and it now appears. | 16:22 |
| mecredis | haha | 16:22 |
| mecredis | why would they have that in there | 16:22 |
| mecredis | seemed weird to me too | 16:22 |
| Bovinity | but when i add tags it loads the page that i assume should be an ajax response | 16:22 |
| mecredis | haha | 16:23 |
| mecredis | yeah success! | 16:23 |
| Bovinity | so, er, plugin fail | 16:23 |
| mecredis | but not really | 16:23 |
| mecredis | ok | 16:23 |
| mecredis | let's scrap it | 16:23 |
| mecredis | and if there's huge demand for comments | 16:23 |
| mecredis | err, tags by random users | 16:23 |
| mecredis | then we'll revisit it | 16:23 |
| mecredis | feel free to push collapsible and the other ones to the live non-staging server | 16:23 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: are you ok with having the tag list and date archives on the tag archive page? | 16:40 |
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| mecredis | yeah, not a huge deal for me | 16:40 |
| greg-g | mecredis: nice, you just got people talking about copyrighting tweets in the Ubuntu local community for Michigan's IRC channel | 16:45 |
| mecredis | haha | 16:45 |
| mecredis | nice | 16:45 |
| greg-g | which is like, quote "patenting a fart" | 16:45 |
| mecredis | hey, bio tech patents genes all the time | 16:45 |
| mecredis | a particular mix of sulfur dioxide and air ... | 16:45 |
| greg-g | hah | 16:45 |
| mecredis | also see http://canyoucopyrightatweet.com/ | 16:47 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Did anyone tell the office I'd be in today? Regardless, want to get lunch? | 16:53 |
| nathany | paulproteus: yes, people are aware of your impending arrival (and by impending I assume that means 11A ;) ) | 16:54 |
| nathany | lunch sounds great | 16:54 |
| paulproteus | 11A is about what I'm aiming for, yes. (-: | 16:54 |
| nathany | lol | 16:54 |
| nathany | great; i have a call @ 11, should be done by noon | 16:55 |
| paulproteus | Awesome. | 17:00 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: what was the tal: atrribute to make it so that say you're doing <span tal:condition /> that the span doesn't render? I know you mentioned it but I can't recall or find it | 17:18 |
| nathany | tal:omit-tag="" ? | 17:18 |
| paroneayea | yep, that sounds like it... thx | 17:18 |
| nathany | sure | 17:18 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: we'll use the conf line for our call in 5 | 17:54 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That works. | 17:55 |
| nathany | nkinkade: btw, maybe add a link to the source repo to that bug | 17:57 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Ready? | 18:03 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yup | 18:03 |
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| akozak | nkinkade: I'm back in SF, when's a good time to work on getting OpenID installed on opened? | 18:31 |
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| nkinkade | akozak: Sorry. I was on a call. Sure, we can work to get OpenID on OpenEd today. | 18:56 |
| nkinkade | Can we look at in a couple hours? | 18:56 |
| nkinkade | I've got some mail in my queue, and also thinking about getting lunch in a minute. | 18:56 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Sure no problem. | 18:58 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Don't forget to eat. (-; | 19:34 |
| nathany | paulproteus: right, as soon as i finish this email | 19:34 |
| paulproteus | No prob. | 19:34 |
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| alexharrington | Hey. I'm working on the Xibo digital signage project. We've used CC licenses for all our documentation and AGPL for our code. We're now putting together a library of community-contributed images that can be used within the digital signage application (where attribution would be impossible). Is there a CC license we could use? Or is there a better option? | 19:38 |
| alexharrington | Maybe CC0? | 19:38 |
| akozak | alexharrington: need some clarification. Do you already have the library or are you looking to start compiling it? | 19:41 |
| alexharrington | we're just starting to compile it now | 19:41 |
| akozak | Well, when license you put it under depends on what license the photos are already under. | 19:41 |
| alexharrington | the only contributions we have at the moment are "unlicensed" and the authors will apply whatever license we decide to use for the archive | 19:41 |
| paroneayea | I thought I remembered there being a git command that was equivalent to "svn cat" so you could print a file from a particular revision to stdout, but now I can't find it. | 19:42 |
| alexharrington | akozak: Do we fulfil "Attribution" by naming the artist at the point of downloading the image? | 19:43 |
| akozak | alexharrington: CC BY is the most interoperable license... that means it would impose the least number of restrictions on the contributed images. | 19:43 |
| akozak | *least number of restrictions on the re-use of | 19:43 |
| akozak | alexharrington: that is likely, and it would be up to the users of that image to attribute it correctly themselves if they use it somewhere. | 19:44 |
| alexharrington | akozak: Sure. But how would the images be attributed at the point of use (ie on a display screen showing news feeds or something)? | 19:44 |
| alexharrington | akozak: Yeah - that kind of defeats the object though. You wouldn't want a whole long blurb on the screen about who designed the background image | 19:44 |
| alexharrington | akozak: like you wouldn't for game textures etc | 19:45 |
| akozak | alexharrington: people do attribution in many different ways. it doesn't necessarily have to be right next to the image in every use. | 19:45 |
| akozak | but IANAL | 19:45 |
| alexharrington | fair enough | 19:45 |
| akozak | CC0 is another option, but you would be asking people contributing to the library to put the images in the public domain. | 19:46 |
| paroneayea | oh I see now. | 19:46 |
| alexharrington | i'm just after some general guidance - especially in this case as I'm not clear if the person viewing the screen is the person who needs to know who the work is by, or if it's the administrator of the system | 19:46 |
| akozak | alexharrington: not sure what you mean by that. | 19:47 |
| alexharrington | akozak: Our system shows a the work as say a background image with text or other images superimposed on top. That licensed image could be seen by any person walking past the screen. Is it that person who need to see the attribution, or is it sufficient that the administrator or users of the system can see the attribution? If it has to be the person walking by, then clearly the attribution would have to be a license block on the screen next to each | 19:50 |
| alexharrington | licensed image (as it's the only interface to the system they have) | 19:50 |
| akozak | alexharrington: I'm actually not entirely sure. Check these for guidance: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Marking http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/15/cc-howto-1-how-to-attribute-a-creative-commons-licensed-work/ | 19:52 |
| akozak | If you don't find answers there, maybe come back and someone else here will have a better answer. | 19:52 |
| akozak | There is also a CC mailing list | 19:52 |
| akozak | let me find that for you | 19:52 |
| akozak | alexharrington: http://creativecommons.org/about/informed/ | 19:53 |
| alexharrington | ok - thanks | 19:53 |
| alexharrington | much appreciated | 19:53 |
| akozak | np | 19:53 |
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| Bovinity | alright, tag archives are looking good | 20:31 |
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| paroneayea | yay, all tests in test_rdfa.py now pass, including the ones I added that weren't passing before. | 20:37 |
| greg-g | paroneayea++ | 20:46 |
| paroneayea | oh gross. lxml is putting unnecessary namespacing all over the place somehow | 20:54 |
| paroneayea | like, every element has an xmlns for xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title" | 20:54 |
| paroneayea | even the <br /> | 20:54 |
| paroneayea | hm. | 20:54 |
| paroneayea | oh, I suspect I know how this happened. | 20:55 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: ping | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Here. | 22:08 |
| nathany | is the backup machine @ the office currently running samba? | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | At least I think so. | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | Let me check. | 22:09 |
| nathany | ok... 10.0.2...? | 22:09 |
| nathany | .10? | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | Working with Ted | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | 10.0.2.10 | 22:09 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yeah | 22:09 |
| nathany | setting up windoze file sharing so he can use quickbooks from him laptop | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Are you going to look at the Samba thing? | 22:10 |
| nathany | figured i should do this, too | 22:10 |
| nathany | yeah, i can | 22:10 |
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| nkinkade | Okay. Just let me know if I can help. | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | I'm sure samba is installed, and I *thought* it was running. | 22:10 |
| nathany | nkinkade: no one is using samba access at the moment, right? | 22:11 |
| nathany | i want to change the workgroup name | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | I don't think anyone is using samba ... pretty sure about it. | 22:12 |
| nkinkade | nathany: You probably already have it in mind, but this share you make should be exclusive to accounting and password protected. | 22:12 |
| nathany | nkinkade: right; was planning to just create a user since samba can support "home" directories | 22:13 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: samba wasn't fully installed, just smbclient | 22:24 |
| nathany | i installed the samba package, should be running now | 22:24 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. Is it working okay? | 22:24 |
| nathany | seems to be; i didn't configure backups yet, need to find the CD | 22:25 |
| nathany | so i'll do that tomorrow | 22:25 |
| nathany | and let you know | 22:25 |
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| paroneayea | Took a while, but I got the xml stripper to actually create good-looking stripped xml | 23:02 |
| paroneayea | ie, <p>I am <b>so excited about <i>this</i></b></p> | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | instead of | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | <p>I am<b>so excited about<i>this</i></b></p> | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><img alt="Creative Commons License" style="border-width:0"/></a><br/><span xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" property="dc:title" rel="dc:type" href="http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/StillImage">TITLE</span> by <a xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#" property="cc:attributionName" rel="cc:attributionURL" href="ATTR_URL">ATTR_NAME</a> is licensed under a <a | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/">Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License</a>. | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | unless we care that it's using <br/> instead of <br /> I think that block looks good | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | which means that the only things left on cc.license that I have as tasks are: | 23:07 |
| paroneayea | ***** TODO internationalization of html+RDFa block | 23:07 |
| paroneayea | ***** TODO Make sure all scenarios have tests | 23:07 |
| paroneayea | (that one specifically for test_formatters.py) | 23:07 |
| paroneayea | and **** TODO Pull in various subcomponents | 23:07 |
| paroneayea | so assuming the internationalization bit won't be too hard, I think we may be ahead of schedule on this | 23:08 |
| paroneayea | On that note, I'm going to go do the dishes then go on a walk. | 23:09 |
| nathany | paroneayea: sounds good; fwiw you should make sure you look @ zope.i18n when you start the i18n bit | 23:10 |
| nathany | it'll probably involve registering a translation domain using zope.component | 23:10 |
| nathany | we can chat about it tomorrow if needed | 23:10 |
| paroneayea | nathany: sounds good | 23:11 |
| paroneayea | :) | 23:11 |
| akozak | there is a big bug in Special:ExportRDF | 23:21 |
| akozak | ugh | 23:21 |
| akozak | all URIs get prepended with http:// | 23:22 |
| akozak | to they're http://http:// | 23:22 |
| akozak | pinging smw user list | 23:22 |
| akozak | nathany: have you seen this problem before ^^ | 23:22 |
| nathany | akozak: haven't seen it before; i wonder if it's a configuration bug? (although I'd be surprised if it only showed up there). | 23:23 |
| akozak | nathany: maybe it is. I think I'll ask the smw-user community. | 23:24 |
| nathany | great | 23:24 |
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| mecredis | nathany: there? | 23:38 |
| paulproteus | mecredis, He just left! | 23:39 |
| mecredis | ah well | 23:39 |
| mecredis | no worries | 23:39 |
| mecredis | nkinkade: the deeds no longer seem to recognize CC Network registrations | 23:51 |
| mecredis | any idea why? | 23:51 |
| mecredis | see: www.fredbenenson.com | 23:51 |
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