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| Bovinity | sounds about right | 01:06 |
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| nkinkade | akozak: Do you know what Asheesh did yesterday to fix the cache issue on OpenEd? Seems like a good thing for me to know for future reference. | 16:04 |
| akozak | I think he just ran /home/paulproteus/cronjobs/update_opened.sh | 16:08 |
| akozak | nkinkade: ^^ | 16:08 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Cool. Thanks. | 16:08 |
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| akozak | JED3: are there staff accts for cc network? | 16:53 |
| JED3 | akozak: they can be created | 16:53 |
| JED3 | would you like me to set you one up for you? | 16:54 |
| akozak | JED3: that would be nice so that I can test openid on opened when we get it installed. | 16:54 |
| akozak | i don't have an openid acct | 16:54 |
| JED3 | ahh okay | 16:54 |
| JED3 | what do you want your username to be? this will also be your openid identifier | 16:54 |
| akozak | akozak works | 16:55 |
| JED3 | ok | 16:55 |
| akozak | nkinkade: do you know how openid logins work on mediawiki when the openid conficts with a mediawiki acct? | 16:55 |
| greg-g | Bovinity: you alright? (re: dropping your bike on the way into work) | 16:56 |
| Bovinity | greg-g: yeah, no harm done | 16:56 |
| nkinkade | akozak: It merges the accounts in some way, I think. | 16:57 |
| greg-g | Bovinity: good deal. | 16:57 |
| akozak | nkinkade: hmm ok. | 16:57 |
| JED3 | akozak: whats your cc email? | 16:57 |
| nkinkade | At least that's what I've seen in the past. | 16:57 |
| akozak | JED3: akozak@ | 16:57 |
| nkinkade | When I login to the CC Wiki with OpenID, it somehow recognizes my main account and I work under those same privileges. | 16:58 |
| akozak | interesting | 16:58 |
| nkinkade | There must be more to it, though, as that could involve security issues. | 16:58 |
| nkinkade | In sum, I'm not 100% sure. | 16:58 |
| JED3 | https://creativecommons.net/akozak/ | 16:59 |
| nathany | paroneayea: you want to meet re: milestones? | 17:00 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 17:00 |
| akozak | nkinkade: wanna tackle openid today? | 17:04 |
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| akozak | nkinkade: ill be back in a bit | 17:10 |
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| pyrak | paroneayea, my blog post i was telling you about last night: | 17:16 |
| pyrak | http://madebyparker.com/blog/2009/04/rough-idea-re-free-network-services-massive-abstraction-layer-for-personal-servers/ | 17:16 |
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| Quarl | hey guys, is it possible to use a noncommercial cc-licensed work in a commercial product if i'm not making money from the work itself? | 17:21 |
| paroneayea | pyrak: nice post | 17:40 |
| paroneayea | I certainly agree that that's the right idea. It's a hard problem to actually implement though | 17:40 |
| pyrak | paroneayea, sure. and like i said, there are some important freedom questions that need to be examined within this idea | 17:41 |
| paroneayea | I think more importantly there are some difficult technical issues | 17:42 |
| paroneayea | eg, installing a django app usually requires modifying python files | 17:42 |
| paroneayea | also things like, what about mount points? | 17:42 |
| paroneayea | do you support just one web server in this system, or multiple? | 17:42 |
| paroneayea | it sounds like it would involve an abstraction layer that would involve writing apache configuration files, or maybe nginx configuration files, or some such thing | 17:43 |
| pyrak | paroneayea, right. so at the moment i'm imagining that the solution to a number of those problems is to just make a reasonable choice on a setting and go ahead and apply it | 17:43 |
| pyrak | it's also worth noting that i'm aware that this might mean that apps would need to seriously alter their install processes | 17:44 |
| pyrak | or perhaps have two totally different install processes | 17:44 |
| paroneayea | there's kind of a developer vs sysadmin war that happens with packaging | 17:45 |
| pyrak | oh? | 17:45 |
| paroneayea | or, at least, that's how it is phrased | 17:45 |
| paroneayea | it actually may more realistically be developer vs sysadmin vs user | 17:45 |
| paroneayea | where sysadmins and users are closer together, when it comes to webapps | 17:45 |
| paroneayea | developers of python applications often prefer systems like buildout and virtualenv that localize a development and deployment environment, at least in the python world | 17:46 |
| paroneayea | in other words, developers often don't even use the version of python bundled with the system | 17:46 |
| paroneayea | this is most especially true for web development | 17:46 |
| paroneayea | so especially in the area of web development, we're creating a lot of packages that aren't being packaged for apt and etc, and are intended to be deployed by other developers | 17:47 |
| paroneayea | so this heightens the issue of difficult-to-deploy webapps | 17:48 |
| paroneayea | I think it actually *is* true that it's often "better" to localize python and etc rather than use the system python... if you know how to do that | 17:49 |
| paroneayea | but.. that means that non-developers will pretty much never be able to use your package | 17:49 |
| paroneayea | and admittedly myself, I know nothing about system packaging with apt, rpm or whatever. I just use it | 17:50 |
| paroneayea | so maybe I should learn about that | 17:51 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: this is true for python apps, but what about the php apps? | 17:51 |
| paroneayea | JED3: that's why php apps are often considered "more deployable" than python apps | 17:51 |
| paroneayea | usually you just have to untar a tarball | 17:51 |
| paroneayea | or even just copy files over via (s)ftp or similar, which many non-developers can do with simple instructions | 17:52 |
| paroneayea | ian bicking has talked a few times about php getting deployment "right" in that sense | 17:52 |
| paroneayea | but I think what pyrak is talking about is an even easier abstracted system for deploying webapps and etc, that doesn't necessairly involve untarring anything | 17:53 |
| paroneayea | using actual package management and maybe a web or gtk gui | 17:53 |
| paroneayea | pyrak: is that right? | 17:54 |
| pyrak | oh snap | 17:55 |
| * pyrak reads | 17:55 | |
| JED3 | I think deploying python and ruby should be made easier for everyone | 17:56 |
| paroneayea | I agree | 17:56 |
| pyrak | JED3, right on! | 17:56 |
| pyrak | paroneayea, yes, you're mostly right re: what i'm talking about | 17:57 |
| pyrak | i'm mostly interested in a web interface | 17:57 |
| pyrak | really, i want wp-admin, but to administrate my whole server | 17:57 |
| JED3 | ahh okay | 17:58 |
| JED3 | have you looked at the Axis project? | 17:58 |
| pyrak | JED3, narp. | 17:58 |
| JED3 | Apache Axis* | 17:58 |
| JED3 | http://ws.apache.org/axis/ | 17:59 |
| JED3 | basically you drop a tarball and it installs and configures on the fly | 18:00 |
| JED3 | ... in a horrifically easy java-esque fashion | 18:01 |
| paroneayea | oh neat | 18:02 |
| nathany | paulproteus: SYN | 18:02 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: looks like there are two implementations of zpt in chameleon | 18:17 |
| paroneayea | one is http://chameleon.repoze.org/docs/zpt/ | 18:18 |
| paroneayea | other is http://chameleon.repoze.org/docs/z3c/ | 18:18 |
| paroneayea | the latter is supposedly to be fully compatible | 18:18 |
| paroneayea | ie, default expression type isn't python | 18:18 |
| paroneayea | it's the whatcha/ma/callit | 18:19 |
| nathany | paroneayea: cool; maybe we'll use that one for cc.engine | 18:28 |
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| dee | Hello. | 19:04 |
| dee | I haven't found it in the faq. Is there a way to store the cc-license information on a media to give it away. I mean a simple text file with the information would be enough. | 19:05 |
| greg-g | dee: you mean embedding the license information into the file, yes there is | 19:05 |
| greg-g | there are multiple ways, depending on the file type | 19:06 |
| greg-g | what kind of media are you thinking of distributing? | 19:06 |
| dee | greg-g: sveral images. An I want to store a txt-file in the containing folder. | 19:06 |
| dee | +e | 19:06 |
| greg-g | oh, you want a separate text file of the license information? A standard way of doing that is to include a file with the name "LICENSE" in the folder and that file copies, verbatim, the license text. In the case of CC licenses, that would be the "legalcode" like what is found here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode | 19:08 |
| dee | okay, so there is no "predefined" text file for download available? | 19:08 |
| dee | I don't want to make a mistake when copying (forget the header or something like that) and the the license would not be valid. | 19:09 |
| greg-g | just copy everything starting at "License" | 19:10 |
| greg-g | dee: and if you want to be explicit, you can also have a "COPYING" file in that folder which says something to the effect of "all images contained in this package are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 license (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/). These images include: name1, name2 name3, name4, name5 etc" | 19:13 |
| dee | ok, thx. | 19:14 |
| greg-g | and, even better, is actually embedding the metadata into the actual image files. See: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Embedded_Metadata and http://wiki.creativecommons.org/XMP and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Metadata_Platform | 19:15 |
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| dee | to be honest: Too much work for 50 images. ;) | 19:15 |
| greg-g | yeah, maybe, but some of those tools can do bulk work | 19:15 |
| dee | Okay, unfortunately not for "standard" images like png | 19:16 |
| greg-g | png supports xmp | 19:17 |
| dee | Okay, PNG is not listed on http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Category:Filetype | 19:21 |
| dee | ok, maybe I will add the information, but the license file is enough for a first run. | 19:22 |
| dee | thx for the help and good night. | 19:22 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, ACK | 20:07 |
| greg-g | nathany: I thought someone was trying to spam the [[Web Integration]] page by adding this to the Tools of the trade section, but, it isn't spam. Have you seen: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/ActsAsLicensed | 20:16 |
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| nathany | greg-g: yeah, someone pointed it out to me... | 20:20 |
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| nathany | quite a while ago, though | 20:20 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: I had a debian packaging question for you | 20:21 |
| * paulproteus waves to nathany | 20:21 | |
| nathany | paulproteus: Roundup is @ 1.4.4 in Debian; 1.4.9 just came out with bug fixes I'd like | 20:21 |
| nathany | is there an easy way to say "please make me a dpkg but use this source tarball over here instead"? | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | The normal thing to do is to: | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | 1. apt-get source roundup | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | 2. download the new roundup tarball | 20:22 |
| nathany | greg-g: i once again pushed the tech checkin meeting to thursday; if we need to chat ca you call the conf line in 10 and join us? | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | 3. Apply the diff.gz from the Debian package to the new roundup package | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | 4. run "dch -i" to log that you're rebuilding it | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | 5. run "dpkg-buildpackage" to build. | 20:22 |
| greg-g | nathany: probably don't need to, my current project is to replicate the Web Integration Howto for Desktop stuff, which I've begun outlining (locally) | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | The diff.gz creates the debian/* files which are needed for packaging. | 20:23 |
| nathany | got it | 20:23 |
| nathany | sounds good, greg-g | 20:23 |
| nathany | paulproteus: the output of buildpackage is the deb, correct? | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | Ya. | 20:23 |
| nathany | cool, i'll give that a try | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | You may need to "apt-get build-dep roundup" to be sure you have all the build-time dependencies. | 20:24 |
| nathany | ah, ok | 20:24 |
| * greg-g was just going to say something about build-dep ;) | 20:24 | |
| paulproteus | I wonder why Toni Mueller hasn't updated roundup lately. | 20:24 |
| nathany | does apt-get source just drop that in `cwd`? | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Ya | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | If that all works, I can upload it to Debian assuming the maintainer doesn't mind. | 20:26 |
| nathany | paulproteus: won't it be missing changes, etc? | 20:26 |
| nathany | (not sure) | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | It's good to file a bug against the package explaining what you did and that it did work if it does. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Well, I'd re-do it and ensure high quality, but if it generally works, then I would actually start re-doing it. | 20:26 |
| nathany | got it | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | There's a debian/patches/ directory, iirc, in the roundup package. | 20:27 |
| nathany | :) | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | This is the extra patches that Debian added. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=523516 indicates Toni Mueller is busy but willing to let others co-maintain the package. | 20:27 |
| nathany | paulproteus: ok, i need to do the tech mtg, will try later | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | ACK | 20:27 |
| nathany | JED3: paroneayea: pyrak: nkinkade: tech checkin? | 20:31 |
| pyrak | nathany, roger | 20:31 |
| paroneayea | yep | 20:31 |
| JED3 | sho | 20:31 |
| nathany | we can call from the conf room | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | sure | 20:32 |
| nathany | nkinkade: we just dialed in | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | I'll dial in now. | 20:33 |
| nathany | sweet smooth jazz | 20:33 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: | 20:48 |
| nathany | dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64 | 20:48 |
| nathany | fakeroot debian/rules clean | 20:48 |
| nathany | /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 164: debian/rules: Permission denied | 20:48 |
| nathany | dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 126 | 20:48 |
| nathany | greg-g: ^^ | 20:51 |
| nathany | ideas? | 20:51 |
| greg-g | whats on line 164? (short answer, no, no ideas) | 20:52 |
| greg-g | :) | 20:52 |
| greg-g | I've usually had good luck building packages that I've minimally changed (patches) | 20:53 |
| nathany | greg-g: looks like it's just the clean target (i assume this is line 164 in debian/rules | 20:55 |
| nathany | rm -fr home build | 20:55 |
| nathany | (seems innocuous to me) | 20:55 |
| nathany | greg-g: do you run the dpkg-buildpackage from the source directory (ie, roundup-1.4.9) | 20:55 |
| greg-g | nathany: yeah | 20:56 |
| greg-g | although, I used debuild -S when I've done it, using this guide ('cuz I'm an ubuntu boy): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic | 20:57 |
| nathany | greg-g: ah | 20:58 |
| nkinkade | pyrak: Did you just delete mockup3? | 21:08 |
| nkinkade | I was working in there. | 21:08 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 21:08 |
| pyrak | nkinkade, ef, sorry | 21:09 |
| pyrak | nkinkade, but didn't i just make that? | 21:10 |
| pyrak | or did we both decide to at the same time? | 21:11 |
| pyrak | that would explain the permissions issues i was having (which led me to just delete it) | 21:12 |
| nkinkade | nathany: pyrak: Here is a suggestion: http://a8.creativecommons.org/~pyrak/ccsearch-mockup-nkinkade/ | 21:17 |
| pyrak | nkinkade, awesome, much more readable | 21:19 |
| akozak | it should be in a java popup box | 21:20 |
| Bovinity | is the alternative what's up on search.cc right now? | 21:20 |
| akozak | best solution ever | 21:20 |
| nathany | akozak: i assume you mean javascript? and no | 21:20 |
| nathany | the feedback from the staff breakouts indicated we needed more of an up front explanation | 21:20 |
| nathany | Bovinity: yes | 21:20 |
| Bovinity | explanation: good. layout: busy, needs improvement. | 21:21 |
| nathany | Bovinity: I made a couple other suggestions to pyrak | 21:21 |
| nathany | what about changing the last two sentences to: | 21:21 |
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| nathany | "CC does not record what works are placed under a CC license. If you are in doubt you should contact the copyright holder directly, or try to contact the site hosting the content. " | 21:22 |
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| nkinkade | That works for me. | 21:22 |
| nathany | pyrak: ^^ | 21:23 |
| nkinkade | Just so long as there is something that heads off "Hmm. I have no idea if the work is under a CC license or not for sure. Guess I'll email Creative Commons to get the phone number or email address of the copyright holder." | 21:23 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 21:23 |
| nathany | :) | 21:23 |
| nkinkade | pyrak: I even think the "Enter a Search Query Above To Get Started" can go away. Seems to me that the search box is pretty evident at the top of the page. Bovinity? | 21:28 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: nathany: a quick firebug mockup that tidies up teh visuals a bit: http://a5.creativecommons.org/~alex/search-mockup.png | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: The box with rounded corners looks nice. | 21:29 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: i'm on the fence, making it more visible improves it (your blue made it look like a link, btw. i instinctively went to click on it...) | 21:29 |
| paulproteus | nathany, chmod a+x debian/rules | 21:30 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: i wound up 777-ing the entire source directory :) | 21:32 |
| nathany | but ran into a bug while it was trying to apply one of the debian patches | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | nathany, ...er... | 21:32 |
| nathany | :) | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | Yeah - you can probably just remove the patch in question. | 21:32 |
| nathany | er, not bug, error | 21:32 |
| nathany | ah, i was going to ask that | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | You should update debian/patches/series then | 21:32 |
| nathany | Bovinity: i want to go to there | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | nathany, You should: | 21:32 |
| nathany | pyrak: see Bovinity's mockup | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | ./debian/rules clean | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | # remove it from the list in series | 21:32 |
| paulproteus | re-run dpkg-buildpackage | 21:32 |
| Bovinity | nathany: the videos might be better integrated somehow, firebug has it's limitations | 21:33 |
| nathany | Bovinity: right | 21:33 |
| nathany | paulproteus: where is this series you speak of | 21:34 |
| nathany | rules? | 21:34 |
| paulproteus | debian/patches/series probably | 21:34 |
| nathany | debian/patches/00list? | 21:34 |
| paulproteus | Right! | 21:34 |
| nathany | got it | 21:34 |
| pyrak | nathany, Bovinity hi | 21:34 |
| pyrak | okay, i can replicate Bovinity's mockup. looks good. | 21:35 |
| pyrak | i was chatting with nathany about embedding the "wanna work together?" video underneath the not-disclaimer, next to a short paragraph about CC | 21:35 |
| pyrak | shall i still do that? | 21:36 |
| nathany | pyrak: yes, please; i'd like to see it | 21:36 |
| Bovinity | +1 | 21:36 |
| pyrak | i'm also wondering how valid these rounded corners are | 21:36 |
| nathany | pyrak: valid? | 21:36 |
| Bovinity | soft and inviting | 21:36 |
| Bovinity | like a fluffy sheep | 21:36 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, agreed. w3c-wise | 21:37 |
| nathany | pyrak: totally valid | 21:37 |
| pyrak | i see, it's a ffx-specific thing? | 21:37 |
| nathany | they use -moz and -webkit, i assume | 21:37 |
| Bovinity | -moz- -webkit- border-radius: | 21:37 |
| Bovinity | include all three and you're covered | 21:38 |
| Bovinity | except for IE, naturally | 21:38 |
| Bovinity | they can do without | 21:38 |
| nathany | paulproteus: almost none of these patches apply... ugh | 21:38 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Yeah, they're probably all unnecessary for the latest version anyway. | 21:38 |
| Bovinity | paroneayea: still waiting on your staff page details. i can photograph you if you need a picture. | 21:42 |
| paroneayea | Bovinity: sure, why don't we do that | 21:42 |
| nathany | paulproteus: | 21:44 |
| nathany | dpkg-genchanges: not including original source code in upload | 21:44 |
| nathany | dpkg-buildpackage: binary and diff upload (original source NOT included) | 21:44 |
| nathany | dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file | 21:44 |
| paulproteus | First warning: Because the original tarball isn't named .orig.tar.gz | 21:44 |
| paulproteus | Second warning: Same reason | 21:44 |
| nathany | should i have a deb, though? | 21:44 |
| paulproteus | Ya | 21:45 |
| paulproteus | In ../*deb | 21:45 |
| nathany | oh | 21:45 |
| nathany | found it | 21:45 |
| paulproteus | Third warning: You don't have the private key of the Debian dude who maintains it. | 21:45 |
| nathany | right | 21:45 |
| nathany | got it | 21:45 |
| nathany | i didn't see the deb and assumed it'd failed (even though those were warnings) | 21:45 |
| nathany | which seemed weird | 21:45 |
| * paulproteus nods | 21:46 | |
| nathany | paulproteus: should i rev the version number so i get a sane version # in the deb i generate? | 21:46 |
| paulproteus | Ya, "dch -i" is a good tool for that. | 21:46 |
| paulproteus | Or edit debian/changelog by hand, but that's bad news. | 21:46 |
| paulproteus | dch is in the devscripts package. | 21:46 |
| nathany | if i just change the header line that'll do it? | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | Um, yes, but that's weird. | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | Create a new changelog entry with your name and the version number you want. | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | Use dch for that. | 21:47 |
| nathany | this is going to be the jankiest package ever | 21:48 |
| paulproteus | Jank Jank Revolution. | 21:49 |
| nathany | paulproteus: is there a dry-run mode for installing a deb? | 21:49 |
| paulproteus | I'm a frayed knot. | 21:49 |
| nathany | trying to decide how risky it is to install this | 21:49 |
| nathany | :) | 21:49 |
| paulproteus | Eh, go ahead. (-: | 21:51 |
| paulproteus | If it builds, ship it. | 21:51 |
| nathany | paulproteus: just backing-up our tracker first :) | 21:51 |
| paulproteus | I wouldn't worry about the data. | 21:51 |
| paulproteus | I'd look for a copy of the .deb I used to install this version. | 21:51 |
| * nathany crosses his fingers | 21:53 | |
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| nkinkade | greg-g: Were you going to delete /Extend_Metadata? | 21:55 |
| * greg-g looks | 21:55 | |
| nkinkade | It's when you noticed that wiki error yesterday. | 21:55 |
| nkinkade | I guess you can't view the page, even. | 21:55 |
| greg-g | ahh, right, I don't think I'm going to delete that, now that I can see it :) | 21:56 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 21:57 |
| paulproteus | pyrak, Is dinner Sat or Sun? | 21:59 |
| nathany | paulproteus: thanks for your help! | 22:00 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Sure thing. (-: | 22:00 |
| pyrak | paulproteus, working it out | 22:01 |
| pyrak | which works better for you? | 22:02 |
| paulproteus | Cool. I think I prefer Sat. | 22:02 |
| pyrak | i think i do also | 22:02 |
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| paroneayea | where is this farewell thingy we're going to? | 22:25 |
| paroneayea | and it runs till... 6:30? | 22:25 |
| * paroneayea suspects there was talk on the cc-sf mailing list that he is not on ;p | 22:26 | |
| paroneayea | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackerspace | 22:28 |
| Bovinity | zebulon i believe | 22:29 |
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| paroneayea | oops, that was not meant for here but for a person asking about noisebridge | 22:29 |
| paroneayea | thx Bovinity | 22:29 |
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| pyrak | http://a8.creativecommons.org:8080/~pyrak/ccsearch-mockup1/ | 22:39 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, nkinkade nathany ^ | 22:39 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: nice | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | pyrak: Very pretty. I'm feeling good about search.CC.org again. | 22:40 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: minor; change type color to #333 | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | I was giving up this morning. | 22:40 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: and 10px left padding on the h2 so it cleanly lines up with the body copy. :) | 22:40 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, thats 10px left? | 22:41 |
| pyrak | oh, sry | 22:41 |
| * pyrak reads | 22:41 | |
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| Bovinity | pyrak: padding-left: 10px; ya | 22:41 |
| nkinkade | My display is only 800px tall and it just misses all fitting in the viewable area. Might be nice to tuck and trim just a bit so that it could possibly fit in the display of a 1024x768 display without scrolling. | 22:42 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: actually, scratch that. | 22:43 |
| Bovinity | nvm | 22:43 |
| greg-g | pyrak: why is the google image search only limited to "commercial reuse with modification" instead of just "reuse"? Just curious, it looks good otherwise | 22:43 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, roger. scratching | 22:43 |
| greg-g | I know, probably not the type of feedback you were looking for :) | 22:43 |
| pyrak | greg-g, you alter the comm/deriv choices on our form on the top | 22:43 |
| greg-g | pyrak: AH! | 22:44 |
| pyrak | it's extremely confusing that with google you get a prominent form from them also | 22:44 |
| greg-g | yeah | 22:44 |
| pyrak | that would be solved by us sucking it up and doing all this through API's | 22:44 |
| pyrak | maybe | 22:44 |
| pyrak | but that would be a whole other code base | 22:44 |
| greg-g | right | 22:45 |
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| greg-g | heh, "You like "flower" ? Here is some of the best "flower" on jamendo." | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | haha | 22:46 |
| nathany | pyrak: i like it | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | And how does it appear on Safari or IE with the -moz-border-radius stuff? | 22:47 |
| pyrak | i can check now | 22:47 |
| pyrak | first, opera: | 22:47 |
| JED3 | nathany: http://staging.creativecommons.net/a/register/ | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | But we should change flower to flour. | 22:47 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: the video is kinda bugged out in safari | 22:47 |
| pyrak | yeah, in opera too | 22:47 |
| pyrak | eff | 22:47 |
| Bovinity | otherwise looks fine | 22:48 |
| pyrak | opera is borked | 22:48 |
| JED3 | I've got staging all set up on the free-accounts | 22:48 |
| nathany | JED3: good start; I think we may decide to keep first/last name optional initially to streamline the form | 22:48 |
| JED3 | and sent out a quick explanatory email to webmaster about it | 22:49 |
| nathany | also it'd be nice (eventually) to pre-populate promo code from a query string variable | 22:49 |
| nathany | but i can open a bug re: that | 22:49 |
| nathany | (that way we can have a link in the email) | 22:49 |
| JED3 | nathany: the prepop is there | 22:49 |
| nathany | oh cool! | 22:49 |
| JED3 | ?c=foooobar | 22:49 |
| nathany | awesome | 22:49 |
| JED3 | same with the renew | 22:50 |
| pyrak | yeah, doesn't look too bad without the rounded corners | 22:51 |
| pyrak | checking ie's | 22:51 |
| JED3 | test codes are "aaaaaaaa" through "ZZZZZZZZ" | 22:51 |
| JED3 | I still need to write the script and build and email method for the promo code generation | 22:53 |
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| Bovinity | pyrak: looks fine in webkit now | 22:54 |
| pyrak | looks fine in ie8 | 22:54 |
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| pyrak | i kinda want to put rounded corners around the video embed also | 22:55 |
| paroneayea | pyrak that's a bit harder prolly | 22:56 |
| Bovinity | unfortunately you can't round that, nor have a pony | 22:56 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, shut up and eat your pony | 22:56 |
| Bovinity | would probably look silly being inside a rounded box anyway | 22:56 |
| Bovinity | yum, that's good pony | 22:57 |
| pyrak | dammit, i can't find it | 22:57 |
| pyrak | its a thingpart | 22:57 |
| pyrak | http://www.jsayers.com/thingpart | 22:59 |
| Bovinity | forbidden! | 22:59 |
| pyrak | anyway, take my word for it: it's funny. and the punchline is "shut up and eat your pony" | 22:59 |
| pyrak | add /thingpart.html | 22:59 |
| Bovinity | i'm sure there's a toothpaste for dinner, or cyanide and happiness regarding the pony eating topic. | 23:00 |
| pyrak | oh dear. just added ":w" to the end of my commit message because i thought i was still in vim :/ | 23:02 |
| paroneayea | :wtf | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | the extent of my vim skills is mostly search, navigation, editing, write and quit | 23:03 |
| pyrak | same | 23:04 |
| pyrak | and i just barely got over that learning curve | 23:04 |
| pyrak | i think i'm still faster with gedit | 23:04 |
| Bovinity | that's good to hear | 23:05 |
| pyrak | but not by much | 23:05 |
| paroneayea | I often forget that I'm not in emacs while in firefox | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | and C-n to scroll down into a million new windows | 23:06 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: even though i haven't worked on it in almost a decade, i still feel fuzzy when people talk about gedit. | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | or C-p into a print window to scroll up :\ | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | Bovinity: you worked on gedit? Neat | 23:06 |
| Bovinity | paroneayea: original author, long long ago | 23:07 |
| greg-g | Bovinity: no kidding? nice. | 23:07 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, woah, neat | 23:07 |
| greg-g | look at that, right there in the credits | 23:08 |
| pyrak | yup | 23:14 |
| pyrak | except without the trailing "s" in your last name? | 23:14 |
| Bovinity | indeed | 23:15 |
| pyrak | you should file a bug | 23:15 |
| paulproteus | Humorously, I just an email to bugmaster at gnome.org. | 23:25 |
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| Bovinity | holy crap, flickr is using the newer BY icon | 23:38 |
| ianweller | what font does creative commons use for their logo font? | 23:39 |
| Bovinity | akzidenz grotesk | 23:39 |
| ianweller | thanks :) | 23:39 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Whoa. | 23:43 |
| paulproteus | That wasn't true ca. 1w ago. | 23:43 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: what wasn't? | 23:44 |
| paulproteus | I mean, iirc, Flickr was using the older BY icon a week ago. | 23:44 |
| Bovinity | right | 23:44 |
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