Tuesday, 2009-08-11

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paulproteusparoneayea, Aww!05:42
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greg-goh the "worked in linux" "not for me" "you're doing it wrong" email threads on -staff :)13:47
greg-ggotta love em13:47
mecredisyeah, does a lot to encourage linux adoption14:18
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greg-gmecredis: yeah, the response wasn't the best. But to be completely, I've had better printing support in Ubuntu in the last 2 years than I have ever had in Windows (never used a Mac for personal use, only in labs). The thing about no need to download third-party drivers is so totally sweet.14:42
greg-gs/completely/completely honest/14:42
mecredisyeah, its impressive14:42
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nathanynkinkade: what version of Drupal/Civi are we on?15:19
nkinkadenathany: 6.13/2.2.715:19
nkinkadeThe very latest versions as of a week or two ago.15:19
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dergringoI am part of a project that plans a new radio stream with free music only. If you are interested in joining the project or just to spread the word about it please check out http://wiki.piraten-partei.ch/FreiesRadio (German only). Thanks :)16:51
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paroneayeaseems like you can't "import pdb; pdb.set_trace()" while running nosetests18:31
paroneayeait looks pretty much like it hangs18:32
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* paroneayea is hungry18:39
nathanyparoneayea: i'm planning to get curry in 10-15 minutes (http://mehfilindian.com/LunchMenuTakeOut.htm)18:46
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nkinkadeBovinity: Is there any way to disable all active plugins and then reenable that same set later?19:17
Bovinitynkinkade: WP? no19:17
nkinkade... in WP.19:17
nkinkadeThat's disappointing.19:18
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akozaknkinkade: I think something's wrong with opened.19:24
akozaknkinkade: It's hanging a lot and I'm getting those 503 varnish errors like we saw on the cc wiki19:25
nkinkadeakozak: Are you deleting or renaming pages?19:25
nkinkadearticles, I mean.19:26
akozaknkinkade: No, editing templates.19:26
akozaknkinkade: Actually, can't even open the main page right now.19:26
nkinkadeTry setting $wgDisableCounters = true;19:26
nkinkadein LocalSettings.php19:27
akozaknkinkade: Ok will do.19:27
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nkinkadeIf that fixes the problem, then there may be a bug in MW, or else some incompatibility between it and something the default Debian setup.19:28
akozaknkinkade: can you get to the main page? http://opened.creativecommons.org19:29
nkinkadeakozak:  Yes.19:29
akozaknkinkade: Ok, added, but I'm still getting the varnish error, even just trying to load a page. (cleared cache and everything too)19:31
akozaknkinkade: Nvm, back up.19:32
akozakCould have been me.19:32
nkinkadeYeah, it's working okay for me.19:32
nkinkadeBut I'm to know if that setting does anything for you.19:32
nkinkadeWe're having problems on the CC Wiki with that, and that could be a possible workaround/fix.19:32
nkinkadeakozak: ^^19:32
akozaknkinkade: Yea, I added it.19:33
akozakWe don't use the view count in the skin.19:33
nkinkadeakozak: Definitely let me know if things seem better with that change.19:34
nkinkadeWere the problems consistent before?19:34
akozaknkinkade: No, this is the first I've seen them.19:34
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nkinkadeakozak: Still having issues?19:57
akozaknkinkade: Nope. Either that fixed worked or it resolved itself.19:57
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pyrakanyone know if there's a javascript function that says "print this here.  right here.  where i a right now."20:23
pyraklike when you echo something with php20:23
greg-gnkinkade: consider myself notified regarding the wiki config change :)20:23
nkinkadeThanks. :-)20:24
nkinkadepyrak: document.write() ??20:24
nkinkadeBut I think it's use is discouraged.20:24
pyraknkinkade, hm, i guess that _does_ do what i wanted.  so something else about what i'm doing in jswidget is effing things up20:25
nkinkadeIf I recall jswidget was using document.writes() in various places which was itself messing something up,though I can't remember what now.20:27
greg-gnkinkade: ruh roh, as I was looking for a page to delete (there are a few in the Developer category) I came across this one: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Extend_Metadata  click on it20:28
nkinkadeGood thing you're the only one who has visited that page recently.20:29
greg-gindeed :)20:29
nkinkadeI'll fix it now, though.20:31
greg-gnkinkade: and watch, as soon as you fix it, I'll delete it20:34
greg-gnkinkade: but, on a positive note, deletion is thus far much much faster20:34
nkinkadegreg-g: You've found some other articles worth deleting?20:34
nkinkadeMy test deletions on wiki-staging were taking exactly 51 to 52 seconds.20:35
nkinkadeThey worked, but were slow.20:35
nkinkadeYou can see the reason why in that ticket.20:35
Bovinitygreg-g: was the Developer page redo your handy work?20:35
greg-gBovinity: yeah, with mecredis putting some time in on the Web Integration HowTo20:37
greg-gnkinkade: yeah, another one is http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Operating_System_Integration20:37
nkinkadethe GeSHi error?20:37
greg-gBovinity: but taking that old ugly [[Web Integration]] and making it readable was me :)20:38
oshaniHi all, I have a small question: If I give one of my works a CC-BY license, when I reuse it, do I need to attribute myself?20:38
greg-gnkinkade: oh, no, no other GeSHI errors20:38
nkinkadeHmm.  Looks like git-svn may not pull in svn externals.20:38
nkinkadeoshani: No.20:38
Bovinitynkinkade: isnt that why nathany wrote gsc?20:38
nkinkadeThe license only applies to the people who are not the copyright holder.20:38
greg-goshani: as nkinkade said, no, you don't. As copyright holder of the work, you can do pretty much whatever you want with it.20:38
nkinkadeBovinity: gsc?20:39
Bovinitygreg-g: you can probably (or probably should) add NOTOC to [[Web Integration]]20:39
nathanynkinkade: http://gitorious.org/gsc20:39
nathanygit-svn does not pull in svn:externals20:39
nathanynote that gsc is pretty basic and useful mostly for bootstrapping20:39
greg-gBovinity: indeed I should, good catch20:39
oshaninkinkade, greg-g thanks20:40
nkinkadeBovinity: Thanks.  I had no idea that nathany had written that.20:40
nathanyneither did i ;)20:40
nathanyoh wait, i did20:40
nathanyi should really techblog it20:40
nkinkadenathany: One of our MW extensions is broken because the git-svn scripts we have don't pull in externals.20:40
nathanywell i'm not sure this will help you considerably20:41
nkinkadeI'm debating about what to do.20:41
nathanyi wrote it as a bootstrapping tool...20:41
nathanyi have an idea of adding an "update" mode, but haven't started writing it20:41
nkinkadeI'm thinking it might be easier to just manually put the needed file in place.20:41
nathanyit's just one file?20:41
nathanyin that case probably20:41
nkinkadeOne directory that contains one file, I think.20:42
nkinkadeI means that our mediawiki.git will not make a full running system when cloned.20:42
nkinkadeBut I doubt that SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi is used by many people on our wikis.20:42
nkinkadenathany: I was mistaken, the svn external pulls in loads of stuff.20:44
nkinkadeOne dir, but filled with files and other dirs.20:44
nathanywe have syntax highlighting?20:44
nkinkadeSomeone requested it a year or two ago.20:45
nkinkadenathany: So git-svn does not handle externals at all?20:45
nathanynkinkade: that's correct20:45
nkinkadehence your tool?20:45
nathanyi'm not aware of any svn -> dvcs tool (hg, bzr or git) that handles externals20:46
nkinkadeWell, what I might be able to do is to have Asheesh's scripts pull in that external as a submodule of the git-svn repo.20:46
nkinkadenathany: Do you know of any way to find out which articles make use of a particular extension?20:48
nkinkadeIt might be better to just ditch it for one that comes whole right from the MW repository.20:49
nkinkadeAs long as it's not used much.20:49
nathanynkinkade: hrm...20:49
nathanythe only thing that comes to mind is looking @ what the theme provides.  If it's a special tag, I might query the MySQL database for the source20:50
nathany(although that's a total pain since it requires figuring out the correct join incantation)20:50
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greg-gnathany: is cctagutils dead? nothing links to the wiki page (according to google) and the last commit to the svn repo was 3 years ago. Delete?21:03
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nathanygreg-g: it's pretty dead, yeah21:03
greg-gnathany: cool, its gone.21:04
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nkinkadenathany: Which MW tables holds page text, again?21:07
nathanynkinkade: uh21:08
nathanydon't remember; iirc there's a page in the MW meta wiki that describes the schema21:08
nkinkadenathany: select page_id, page_title from page left join revision on page.page_id = revision.rev_page left join text on revision.rev_text_id = text.old_id where text.old_text like "%<something>%";21:20
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nkinkadeI have to step out for a bit.  Be back shortly.21:20
nathanynkinkade: cool21:20
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nathanygreg-g: the SQL?21:21
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mecredis_Bovinity: nkinkade getting some reports that users can't create accounts21:26
mecredis_on wiki21:26
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greg-gnathany: yeah :)21:41
greg-gnathany: never did like dealing with sql21:41
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greg-gif I knew German, that might be pretty cool22:33
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Bovinity:after is a great pseudo element.22:35
K`Tetchit's fairly descriptive in the graphics22:39
* pyrak is so angry with javascript right now22:41
Bovinitymecredis: what happened to that Archives list you added to /weblog/ with the JS dropdown dates?22:42
greg-gK`Tetch: kinda, I think I'm missing a lot, or they aren't saying much :)22:42
mecredisits called Collapsable Archives22:42
mecredisits on staging22:42
Bovinitymecredis: is it not a widget?22:42
mecredisit is22:42
mecredisis it not showing up/22:43
Bovinityit's gone22:43
* mecredis checks22:43
Bovinityunless nk deactivated it22:43
Bovinitysomeone did22:43
Bovinityjust checking22:43
Bovinitywidgets are acting dumb, figuring out what's wrong here22:44
mecredisadded it back22:44
mecredisyeah, not sure why it got rejected22:44
K`TetchIt's basically promoting the german pirate party, mainly focusing on using creative commons. It's for the federal election end of next month22:44
Bovinitymecredis: sidenote, what editor were you using to edit the theme files? a bunch got saved as DOS format22:44
mecredisand/or textmate22:45
mecredismay have been how I was uploading them?22:45
* mecredis hears twilight music playing22:45
mecrediswell I gotta sign off for a bit22:46
mecredislet me know if there's anything I can do22:46
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mecredisthanks for tackling that all22:47
Bovinityfixed the dumbness22:47
mecredisnice, might need a line break between the tags and archives22:47
mecredisbut the link stuff is more important22:48
Bovinityguh, date archives in tag archive page. (insert reeses gag here)22:52
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pyrakJED3, I WAS SO RIGHT!23:07
pyraki think23:07
pyrakgen_template.js, line 6223:07
pyraksry, it's gen_template_js.py23:08
JED3hey look at that23:09
JED3there you go :)23:09
JED3so <span>foo</span> is translated but not <span><em>foo></em></span>23:10
pyrakwhich is a little icky23:10
pyrak but man, i've been sitting here for several hours pulling my hair out trying to get this cc_js_t() solution to work23:11
pyrakthis is so much better23:11
pyrakbecause the template is pulled into a static string, i wasn't able to document.write strings where i wanted them23:12
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JED3that comments thread on 37signals is pretty depressing23:35
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pyrakJED3, any interest in this noisebridge thing?23:57
pyrakdid you get my email?  or did i fail?23:57
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JED3yeah I got it, I have to go look at an apartment at 6:30, doubt I could get there in time23:58

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