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| Nooby | hi | 00:11 |
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| Nooby | anyone here? | 00:11 |
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| pyrak | Nooby, hi | 00:34 |
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| trinity_4 | @list cc | 04:17 |
| cchelpbot | trinity_4: Error: 'cc' is not a valid plugin. | 04:17 |
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| trinity_4 | @list ssn | 04:18 |
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| Nooby | @list cc | 04:39 |
| cchelpbot | Nooby: Error: 'cc' is not a valid plugin. | 04:39 |
| Nooby | hi | 04:40 |
| Nooby | is CC hack for real? | 04:40 |
| ianweller | Nooby: get out. | 04:43 |
| ianweller | this is for creative commons, not credit card numbers. | 04:44 |
| ianweller | it's also rude to /msg people on IRC without asking first | 04:44 |
| trinity_4 | this is where the old carderplanet people hang | 04:45 |
| ianweller | uh, no. | 04:48 |
| trinity_4 | it said that on google | 04:49 |
| ianweller | and google is wrong | 04:51 |
| trinity_4 | that's how I found this place | 04:51 |
| ianweller | you came to the wrong place | 04:52 |
| ianweller | see http://creativecommons.org/ for what this channel is about | 04:52 |
| rewt | trinity_4, wrong network? | 04:52 |
| trinity_4 | if I give some cc numbers will you give some back? | 04:52 |
| rewt | there's more than 1 irc network, and they're all completely separate | 04:52 |
| ianweller | trinity_4: that's illegal. | 04:52 |
| trinity_4 | I know how this works | 04:52 |
| ianweller | trinity_4: you will be reported. | 04:52 |
| rewt | apparently you don't | 04:52 |
| trinity_4 | its not illegal if I own the numbers | 04:52 |
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| rewt | own as in given to you by the cc issuer, or own as in you paid for them? | 04:54 |
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| trinity_4 | own as they are on systems I own | 04:55 |
| ianweller | you have an interesting definition of ownership | 04:55 |
| ianweller | too bad all the channel ops are asleep. :( | 04:56 |
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| trinity_4 | yea they are probably more willing to do business | 04:57 |
| ianweller | i don't believe so. | 04:58 |
| ianweller | the channel founder works for creative commons. | 04:58 |
| trinity_4 | wtf is creative commons | 04:58 |
| ianweller | i gave you a link | 04:58 |
| trinity_4 | and why is the site so slow | 04:58 |
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| trinity_4 | see | 05:03 |
| trinity_4 | I'm getting offers for cc number trades on msg now | 05:03 |
| ianweller | i don't believe a word you're saying | 05:03 |
| trinity_4 | nooby said he is a regular and already gave me 5 cards | 05:04 |
| ianweller | that's cute, since this is the first time i've seen nooby | 05:05 |
| ianweller | and i've idled in this channel for months | 05:05 |
| ianweller | about... 10 months. | 05:05 |
| trinity_4 | did you offer a trade? | 05:05 |
| ianweller | no. | 05:05 |
| ianweller | because this is not a credit card trading channel. | 05:05 |
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| trinity_4 | anyone else want to buy or trade? | 05:06 |
| ianweller | get out. | 05:07 |
| Fi | ._. | 05:08 |
| trinity_4 | ianweller if you have no business to transact then just idle | 05:08 |
| ianweller | trinity_4: get out. this is not the place for this. | 05:08 |
| Fi | No buisiness transactions appear in channel. | 05:08 |
| ianweller | i'm not going to idle. this is the channel for creative commons. i'm an avid supporter of creative commons and am here to answer questions. | 05:08 |
| Fi | I see no reason why he should leave. | 05:08 |
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| Mkop | ianweller: do you have a complete transcript of trinity's activity tonight in the channel? | 05:37 |
| ianweller | i do | 05:37 |
| ianweller | would you like one | 05:37 |
| Mkop | no, but abuse@cox.net probably would | 05:38 |
| * ianweller was about to check that that was their abuse mail | 05:38 | |
| Mkop | include a /whois | 05:38 |
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| Mkop | ianweller: did you send that email? | 06:21 |
| ianweller | Mkop: yes i did | 06:23 |
| Mkop | ok, just making sure | 06:23 |
| Mkop | would it help for someone else to also send? | 06:23 |
| Mkop | I doubt it | 06:23 |
| ianweller | nah | 06:23 |
| ianweller | they'll see it | 06:23 |
| ianweller | most larger ISPs/companies dump all that data into an issue tracker and tackle each one individually. it's kinda neat :) | 06:23 |
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| trinity_4 | what's the fserver commands to get cc's? | 13:28 |
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| trinity_4 | how those cc#'s coming? | 14:38 |
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| greg-g | trinity_4: best place to get new credit card numbers is to email tips@fbi.gov | 15:15 |
| greg-g | trinity_4: curious, which result from google led you to believe that this channel provides credit card numbers? | 15:18 |
| trinity_4 | trying to find what I put in | 15:20 |
| trinity_4 | something to do with carderplanet | 15:22 |
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| greg-g | trinity_4: just so you know, what ianweller said was correct, this channel is not for credit cards, it is for Creative Commons (see the /topic of the channel) which has nothing to do with credit cards | 15:22 |
| trinity_4 | that site is confusing | 15:22 |
| trinity_4 | I didn't even see anywhere to download mp3's | 15:23 |
| greg-g | so we would appreciate if you did not ask for credit cards in here anymore | 15:23 |
| trinity_4 | debit card numbers are fine too | 15:23 |
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| trinity_4 | is this a creative commons a thiong to get around copyrights? | 15:35 |
| greg-g | trinity_4: this is probably the best explanation: http://creativecommons.org/about/what-is-cc | 15:38 |
| trinity_4 | where do I purchase? | 15:40 |
| greg-g | purchase what? | 15:40 |
| trinity_4 | found it | 15:41 |
| mecredis | trinity_4: found what? | 15:42 |
| trinity_4 | place to buy stuff | 15:42 |
| trinity_4 | where do you put in the credit card | 15:43 |
| Fi | . . . . . | 15:43 |
| mecredis | oh, would you like to purchase Creative Commons t-shirts and stuff? | 15:45 |
| * mecredis always be closing. | 15:45 | |
| trinity_4 | medredis haha that is a great movie | 15:46 |
| trinity_4 | coffee is for closers | 15:47 |
| mecredis | anyway, trinity_4 our store is here | 16:03 |
| mecredis | https://support.creativecommons.org/store | 16:03 |
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| johndoigiii | wow some lengthy credit card swapping discussion in here from last night | 16:48 |
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| greg-g | johndoigiii: yeah :( | 16:53 |
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| trinity_4 | can credit card numbers be creative commons? | 17:14 |
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| akozak | trinity_4: probably not: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html#protect | 17:16 |
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| johndoigiii | nathany: are you around? I have a quick question about cc.engine | 17:33 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: hey, I'm still struggling to get these rewrites correct | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | What's happening? | 17:49 |
| JED3 | for some reason I can't get /license/ to rewrite, and it gets passed along to Zope | 17:49 |
| JED3 | even after I've written an explicit rule for that uri | 17:49 |
| JED3 | RewriteRule ^/license/$ http://%{SERVER_NAME}/choose/ [R,L] | 17:50 |
| rewt | try: RewriteRule ^license$ http://%{SERVER_NAME}/choose/ [R,L] | 17:54 |
| rewt | maybe not | 17:56 |
| JED3 | rewt: that won't work | 17:56 |
| JED3 | the forward slash is always required if you use the ^ start limiter | 17:56 |
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| babonk | What does it mean that an image is not available for commercial use? | 17:57 |
| rewt | maybe [RL] instead of [R,L] | 17:58 |
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| rewt | or not | 17:58 |
| rewt | heh | 17:58 |
| JED3 | wont do it either, some of the flags in apache are 2 chars therefore you have to comma delimit | 17:59 |
| greg-g | babonk: it means that the creator of the image does not want anyone else to make money off of their work. They are reserving that right for themselves. Concretly defining "making money off of" or "commercial" is sometimes hard, so if you have a specific use case, it is usually good to ask them about it. | 17:59 |
| babonk | My site is free, we make money off of advertising. I wanted to use a CC stock image of an ISBN to guide people through using the site | 18:00 |
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| greg-g | babonk: that specific use case could be argued either way (commercial or not commercial). Best thing to do would be to ask the creator of the image. | 18:02 |
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| babonk | hmm the problem is im on a deadline | 18:03 |
| babonk | the site is going live very soon | 18:03 |
| greg-g | Creative Commons is currently performing a study to better understand the community's interpretation of "commercial" and "noncommercial" so these questions will hopefully be answered more easily in the future. But for now, the unfortunate answer is, it depends on the creator's definition of those words. | 18:03 |
| greg-g | can you not find a CC:BY, CC:BY-SA image of an ISBN? | 18:03 |
| greg-g | (or even CC:BY-ND if you don't crop it) | 18:04 |
| babonk | gotcha.. i could probably find some non-commercial ones. i just wanted to know before i search | 18:05 |
| greg-g | babonk: gotcha | 18:05 |
| greg-g | curious, what is the site? | 18:06 |
| babonk | a textbook trading site | 18:06 |
| babonk | people can buy or sell textbooks from one another | 18:06 |
| greg-g | cool, good luck with it | 18:06 |
| babonk | thanks, and thx for the help | 18:06 |
| greg-g | no problem | 18:06 |
| nathany | JED3: sorry, was in a meeting | 18:28 |
| nathany | is Varnish sending the /license/ request to Zope? | 18:28 |
| nathany | (ie, is it even making it to Apache) | 18:28 |
| JED3 | yeah, thats what it was | 18:28 |
| nathany | cool | 18:29 |
| JED3 | I was going to ask about logging for cc.engine though | 18:29 |
| nathany | what about it? | 18:29 |
| JED3 | just wondering what the log/z3.log was? | 18:30 |
| nathany | iirc there are two logs in the ./log directory | 18:30 |
| JED3 | yes | 18:30 |
| nathany | one is an access log, the other is an application log | 18:30 |
| nathany | so you could do event logging, etc | 18:30 |
| JED3 | another is, zdaemon, which I assume is what its filename implies | 18:30 |
| nathany | right | 18:30 |
| JED3 | cool, well I'll read up on zope logging utilities, if there are any besides logger | 18:32 |
| JED3 | logging* | 18:32 |
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| JED3 | nathany: something i just realized, this work is based off the UI changes I made some weeks ago (the column removals, language selector, etc.) should I rework this to not contain those changes? I think we are still waiting on text from Eric and the language selector is still up in the air | 18:41 |
| nathany | JED3: yes, we only want to merge the URL changes to production | 18:43 |
| nathany | so... :( sorry | 18:43 |
| JED3 | ha no worries, shouldn't be too bad, most of the changes were a result of sed anyways :) | 18:44 |
| akozak | Bovinity: Do you know why a scrollbar being added by a browser into a long page might offset the container div by a few pixels? | 18:56 |
| akozak | or how to stop it? | 18:56 |
| akozak | Could I just fix the position of the container? | 18:57 |
| Bovinity | example? | 18:57 |
| akozak | http://sj.creativecommons.org/2009/07/08/student-journalism-20/ | 18:57 |
| akozak | If you go to any other page it's not offset | 18:57 |
| akozak | (click test at the top for another test post) | 18:58 |
| Bovinity | pages look consistent to me, am i missing something? | 18:58 |
| akozak | maybe it's me then... | 18:59 |
| Bovinity | yes, the content box moves to the left, that's because it's a fixed width and the scrollbar impedes on available page space | 18:59 |
| Bovinity | it's a non-issue | 18:59 |
| akozak | Ok, I guess I'm just being really anal about that then | 18:59 |
| akozak | thanks | 19:01 |
| nathany | JED3: just say your comment re: logging in cc.engine; i think i remember that it's all done with python's logging module these days | 19:21 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Sorry about the delay. | 19:36 |
| nkinkade | The | 19:36 |
| nkinkade | reason the rewrites rules are not working is probably because Varnish is passing things directly to cc.engine. | 19:36 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Do you have any feelings about the possible OpenID loophole for avoiding recaptcha? | 20:42 |
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| nkinkade | I'm not sure whether I should disable OpenID for the moment as wel, to say nothing of figuring out how to prevent people from abusing OpenID in that way. | 20:43 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: let's see if Abuse Filter helps us out in the area | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | JED3: regarding your earlier comment about the / always being required if you use the ^ in a rewrite rule. That's not quite right. | 20:45 |
| nathany | it seems pretty weird that spammers would go to the trouble of using open id | 20:45 |
| nathany | maybe just indicative of its penetration ;) | 20:45 |
| nkinkade | Whether you include a / depends on whether you are writing rules in the vhost scope or in a perdir (e.g., .htaccess) scope. | 20:45 |
| nkinkade | The vhost scope requires absolute URLs, whereas the perdir scope uses relative URLs and any leading path elements are inferred, including the initial slash. | 20:46 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: If you need to know what customizations we have on CiviCRM you can find them by doing this: | 20:57 |
| nkinkade | a9 $ find /var/www/support.creativecommons.org/www/sites/default/modules/civicrm/custom_* -type f | 20:58 |
| nkinkade | Then you can diff those files against their counterparts that are located at the same path minus the custom_* part. | 20:59 |
| nkinkade | A few template changes and one small PHP enhancement to the paging functionality. | 21:00 |
| JED3 | cool thanks, nkinkade | 21:01 |
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| akozak | nkinkade: I'd like to add a rewrite rule for sj... should I paste it in myself or would you prefer to do it? | 21:59 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: btw, yeah the error i was running into was indeed with varnish | 22:02 |
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| nkinkade | akozak: Sorry, was on a call. | 22:21 |
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| nkinkade | Just tell me what the rules is and I'll put it in the config. | 22:21 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Are you up and running now with the Varnish config and all that? | 22:21 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: yes, thx | 22:28 |
| akozak | nkinkade: sending an emal | 22:29 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Feel free to send it right here in #cc | 22:29 |
| akozak | oh ok | 22:30 |
| akozak | <IfModule mod_rewrite.c> | 22:30 |
| akozak | RewriteEngine On | 22:30 |
| akozak | RewriteRule ^media?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?$ /wp-content/plugins/falbum/wp/album.php?$1=$2&$3=$4&$5=$6&$7=$8 [QSA,L] | 22:30 |
| akozak | </IfModule> | 22:30 |
| akozak | I think you only needed just the one rule though :P | 22:31 |
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| nkinkade | akozak: What in god's name is that? | 22:32 |
| akozak | heh | 22:32 |
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| akozak | I didn't write it | 22:33 |
| Bovinity | good lord | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | It looks redundant. What's it supposed to do? | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | It's got the same pattern over and over again. | 22:33 |
| akozak | rewrite /wp-content/plugins/falbum/wp/album.php to /media/ | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | Seems like that could be done without all that craziness above. | 22:34 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I'm missing something, though Let me take a look. | 22:34 |
| nkinkade | How will I know if it's working? | 22:34 |
| Bovinity | album.php needs some parameter auditing... | 22:34 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Is this supposed to be about "clean" URLs? | 22:36 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Yes, to avoid the long path to the plugin. | 22:36 |
| akozak | I'm really only using it since it was so conveniently provided to me by WPMU :) | 22:36 |
| nkinkade | akozak: But I'm wondering if the alternative is very clean. | 22:37 |
| nkinkade | I mean is media?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?([^/]*)?/?$ really much dirtier than /wp-content/plugins/falbum/wp/album.php?$1=$2&$3=$4&$5=$6&$7=$8 | 22:37 |
| nkinkade | *sorry cleaner. | 22:38 |
| akozak | nkinkade: I'm not sure. You make the call... I'm perfectly happy using the plugin only to display recent photos on the front page. | 22:38 |
| akozak | well | 22:38 |
| akozak | actually | 22:38 |
| akozak | that won't work... | 22:38 |
| akozak | hmm | 22:38 |
| Bovinity | doesnt WPMU have the WP gallery features yet? | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I just can't see that the /media link is much cleaner than the /wp-content link ... they are both pretty ugly. | 22:40 |
| akozak | nkinkade: ok, makes sense. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: akozak: WP-mu on labs is 2.7.1, so it should have all the features of that version of Wordpress. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | Including the builtin gallery support. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | Good point. | 22:40 |
| akozak | Ok, I'll dig around then. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | http://codex.wordpress.org/Gallery_Shortcode | 22:41 |
| nkinkade | akozak: ^^ | 22:41 |
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| akozak | I was hoping to use our free flickr pro account for all our media but I could just cross post things I suppose. | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Will FAlbum work just fine? If not, then we can install another plugin. | 22:45 |
| akozak | nkinkade: FAlbum may have worked, but I'll look around for a better one. It didn't have as many features as I would have liked. | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Why not just use FAlbum like you were going to, but with the normal URLs? | 22:46 |
| akozak | It seemed pretty buggy. | 22:47 |
| akozak | let me re-enable it real quick... | 22:47 |
| akozak | nkinkade: it's formated all messed up right now, but see http://sj.creativecommons.org/ | 22:50 |
| akozak | if you click on a photo you get an error | 22:50 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, that looks pretty bad. | 22:51 |
| nkinkade | akozak: What's this: album.phptags | 22:51 |
| akozak | no idea, those links are generated by the plugin | 22:52 |
| nkinkade | It's missing a / between php and tags, add it and it works? Is that a bug or a config error? | 22:52 |
| akozak | let me see | 22:52 |
| akozak | I don't know why it's doing that... | 22:54 |
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| akozak | it doesn't really work though, just takes you to the main album page | 22:55 |
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| akozak | Ok, fixed it. The config needed a / | 22:57 |
| akozak | but it still doesn't take you where you need to go. | 22:57 |
| akozak | anyway, it's working decently | 22:57 |
| nkinkade | akozak: And the bad formatting is surely a CSS issue ... mostly like to do with floats in the FAlbum CSS file. | 22:58 |
| akozak | nkinkade: the formatting could probably be fixed, I'm just worried that the links aren't taking you to the right place | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | They see to be working for me, but I don't know what to expect, either. | 22:59 |
| akozak | nkinkade: When you click on a picture, does it take you to that picture's page? | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | http://sj.creativecommons.org/wp-content/plugins/falbum/wp/album.php/tags/Student+Journalism+2.0/page/1/photo/3619533609/#show=recent&page=1&photo=img_1796 | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | That, for example? | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | I got there by clicking on the group, then on a particular image. | 23:00 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Right, that works ok | 23:00 |
| akozak | I mean clicking on an image on the main page | 23:01 |
| akozak | These are small issues, really. | 23:02 |
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| trinity_4 | you guys sell botnet time here? | 23:13 |
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| akozak | ugh i need to stop accidentally grepping /. instead of ./ | 23:27 |
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| JED3 | Bovinity: I certainly share you feelings re: svn branching/merging | 23:49 |
| * Bovinity nods | 23:50 | |
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