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| xhema | We are looking for GNU people to come to our software freedom conference in Prishtina Kosovo on the 29/30 of august. SFK09/SFCK09 | 08:21 |
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| xhema | We are looking for GNU people to come to our software freedom conference in Prishtina Kosovo on the 29/30 of august. SFK09/SFCK09 | 13:35 |
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| stelt | where do i find free sound samples | 17:27 |
| stelt | ? | 17:27 |
| nkinkade | stelt: http://ccmixter.org? | 17:30 |
| stelt | nkinkade, no luck searching there | 17:38 |
| nkinkade | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Content_Directories ? | 17:38 |
| stelt | thanks, found http://free-loops.com/force-audio.php?id=7367 | 17:44 |
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| johndoigiii | hey nkinkade, not sure if you have been made aware of this, but the validator.cc.org seems to have gone down | 17:53 |
| johndoigiii | I took a look at last night, but couldn't find what was going on | 17:54 |
| pyrak | can i have edit privs on the blog? i wanna correct a simple typo on a post by mike | 18:05 |
| pyrak | or i guess i could just point it out to someone else with edit privs if you guys would rather | 18:05 |
| pyrak | ctrl+f for "that that" at http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/15046 | 18:06 |
| Bovinity | seems to be fixed | 18:08 |
| johndoigiii | naa its still there | 18:08 |
| johndoigiii | "It should also be noted that that free and open source software licenses provide a similar and complementary check on hybrid organizations that produce software — and nearly all do, at least in the form of customization of web site software." | 18:09 |
| pyrak | i have an account on wordpress, but apparently not edit capabilities | 18:09 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: I didn't know the validator was down. | 18:09 |
| Bovinity | oh weird, a totally different blog post opened just now | 18:09 |
| nkinkade | I haven't got an alert, but maybe it's monitoring the wrong thing. | 18:09 |
| Bovinity | curious | 18:09 |
| johndoigiii | ohh okay, pyrak mentioned it last night | 18:10 |
| * pyrak probably should have filed a ticket | 18:10 | |
| johndoigiii | nkinkade, well apache is still up | 18:10 |
| johndoigiii | varnish is throwing an error | 18:10 |
| johndoigiii | maybe thats why nagios didn't pick it up? | 18:11 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: fixed | 18:11 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, sweet | 18:11 |
| pyrak | re: validator, i can also say that i know it was up late last week | 18:12 |
| nkinkade | pyrak: johndoigiii: the validator is back up. | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | I'm stumped as to why Nagios didn't catch it. | 18:20 |
| pyrak | nkinkade, what was the problem? | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | There was some stale pid file hanging around in /home/validator, so it thought it was already running, but it was actually the pid of some postfix process. | 18:21 |
| johndoigiii | ahh, okay | 18:22 |
| johndoigiii | thats a basic cgi application right? | 18:22 |
| johndoigiii | oh ok nm | 18:23 |
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| johndoigiii | mecredis: you around? | 19:05 |
| mecredis | hey indeed | 19:06 |
| mecredis | johndoigiii: | 19:06 |
| mecredis | was just going to work on those mockups | 19:06 |
| mecredis | whats up? | 19:06 |
| johndoigiii | hey, what are you thoughts on free organization accounts? | 19:06 |
| mecredis | good question | 19:06 |
| mecredis | gimme a moment | 19:06 |
| johndoigiii | right now I have it designed so that an account is either a premium, organization, or free | 19:06 |
| mecredis | hrm | 19:06 |
| mecredis | I mean if orgs just want to sign up | 19:06 |
| johndoigiii | and they are all exclusive of one another | 19:07 |
| mecredis | and poke around | 19:07 |
| mecredis | then they'll use a free account | 19:07 |
| johndoigiii | yes | 19:07 |
| mecredis | would there be a problem with that? | 19:07 |
| johndoigiii | no not at all | 19:07 |
| mecredis | ok | 19:07 |
| mecredis | but lets think about the benefit | 19:07 |
| mecredis | of doing an organizational account | 19:07 |
| mecredis | its basically a premium account that's attached to an organization | 19:07 |
| johndoigiii | I think Nathan's initial thoughts on the org accounts was to have something as an incentive for companys who would like to make donations | 19:08 |
| mecredis | yeah | 19:08 |
| mecredis | I mean I don't see free accounts that happened to be used by an organization as a problem | 19:08 |
| johndoigiii | so I assume if thats the case then it wasn't "free" and they should be able to access whatever the premium folks can | 19:08 |
| mecredis | so if they don't want to give | 19:08 |
| mecredis | right, the only difference would be that organization accounts are a) identified as such | 19:08 |
| mecredis | b) don't have single human photos / stories | 19:08 |
| johndoigiii | okay cool | 19:10 |
| mecredis | yeah, if you want to be considered an organization | 19:10 |
| mecredis | I don't think we should let you do that for free | 19:10 |
| johndoigiii | i agree | 19:10 |
| mecredis | so I'm going to work on the Free vs. Premium mockup | 19:11 |
| mecredis | (it should be pretty simple) | 19:12 |
| johndoigiii | ohh okay cool, yeah I just finished the prelim work on it | 19:12 |
| mecredis | unless you can do it without me | 19:12 |
| mecredis | its just going to be two big squares with rounded eduges | 19:12 |
| johndoigiii | well how different are you thinking? | 19:12 |
| mecredis | but I think we should flesh out | 19:12 |
| johndoigiii | ohhh okay | 19:12 |
| mecredis | we'll just have a couple bullet points | 19:12 |
| mecredis | explaining the differences between accounts | 19:12 |
| mecredis | costs, etc. | 19:12 |
| johndoigiii | okay cool | 19:12 |
| johndoigiii | are you thinking that the actual profile pages should appear different for free users? | 19:13 |
| johndoigiii | something that demonstrates that they are a lesser being :) | 19:13 |
| mecredis | of course | 19:13 |
| mecredis | haha | 19:13 |
| mecredis | maybe grayscale their photo | 19:13 |
| mecredis | haha | 19:13 |
| johndoigiii | lol | 19:13 |
| mecredis | might have to ask Bovinity for design suggestions there | 19:14 |
| Bovinity | oh hai | 19:14 |
| mecredis | oh hai | 19:14 |
| johndoigiii | yeah, same goes for the org presentations too | 19:14 |
| johndoigiii | which i spoke briefly with him about | 19:14 |
| mecredis | yeah, Bovinity we're going to need to add something to profile pages | 19:14 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: i don't quite understand the openid boxes in your diagram | 19:14 |
| Bovinity | maybe i dont need to understand them | 19:14 |
| mecredis | that identify them either as premium, free, or organizational | 19:14 |
| mecredis | hrm, let me get that up | 19:14 |
| mecredis | its just meant to demonstrate that we're an OpenID provider | 19:15 |
| mecredis | and Facebook is ac onsumer | 19:15 |
| mecredis | (if I am correct in believing they are) | 19:15 |
| johndoigiii | mecredis: yes, but we too will be a consumer as well | 19:15 |
| johndoigiii | ...it is planned at least | 19:15 |
| mecredis | johndoigiii: indeed, this is part of my "current" diagrama | 19:15 |
| mecredis | for the board | 19:16 |
| johndoigiii | ahh okay, sorry | 19:16 |
| mecredis | I'll send it to you | 19:16 |
| johndoigiii | cool, thx | 19:16 |
| Bovinity | account types could be colour coordinated | 19:17 |
| Bovinity | or have a different page head graphic | 19:17 |
| mecredis | yeah | 19:17 |
| Bovinity | doesnt make sense to do any drastic layout changes | 19:17 |
| mecredis | maybe we'll just add some lazy text in the prototype | 19:17 |
| mecredis | Bovinity: johndoigiii sent you a mockup of free account | 19:25 |
| mecredis | basically just added the words "free account" | 19:25 |
| mecredis | haha | 19:25 |
| Bovinity | indeed | 19:25 |
| mecredis | maybe premium can be encrusted with gold | 19:25 |
| mecredis | and <marquee> | 19:25 |
| Bovinity | is free going to be certified at all? | 19:26 |
| mecredis | Bovinity: no, they won't have the right to register works though | 19:26 |
| Bovinity | aha | 19:26 |
| Bovinity | just OID? | 19:26 |
| mecredis | and donate | 19:26 |
| mecredis | and web citation | 19:26 |
| mecredis | maybe only 10x citations a month, thoug | 19:27 |
| mecredis | or 5 | 19:27 |
| mecredis | have to figure that one out | 19:27 |
| johndoigiii | Bovinity pyrak: curry? | 19:37 |
| pyrak | johndoigiii, i think interns are going with cdt ppl | 19:38 |
| johndoigiii | oh ok | 19:39 |
| Bovinity | they're deciding what to do for lunch | 19:39 |
| johndoigiii | ahh | 19:39 |
| mecredis | Bovinity: johndoigiii just sent you a rough version of a premium vs. free page | 19:47 |
| mecredis | going to write the copy now | 19:47 |
| Bovinity | kk | 19:48 |
| Bovinity | cute | 19:49 |
| Bovinity | real cute | 19:49 |
| mecredis | heh | 19:49 |
| mecredis | that fact image | 19:49 |
| mecredis | was what came up | 19:49 |
| mecredis | when I looked for citation | 19:49 |
| Bovinity | lol | 19:49 |
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| mecredis | johndoigiii: do we want an organizational option here? | 20:06 |
| mecredis | or maybe just once you complete the donation process | 20:06 |
| mecredis | and you're flagged as a premium member | 20:06 |
| mecredis | then you can select "this is for a business" or "this is for an individual" | 20:07 |
| johndoigiii | hmm, we certainly could, but i think it will require a lot interaction on our end before one could be titled as an org, in other words we would need to be contact with the individual and verify that they do indeed represent the company/org | 20:08 |
| mecredis | got it | 20:08 |
| mecredis | so no point in mocking it up here | 20:08 |
| johndoigiii | so i think it will be a manual thing that we will have to go in make the change | 20:08 |
| johndoigiii | yeah dont worry about it | 20:08 |
| Bovinity | i think the join page should mention the third, org/corp, option.. but noting it requires interaction | 20:11 |
| Bovinity | maybe just as a tertiary item at teh bottom | 20:11 |
| mecredis | good point Bovinity | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | psst, for lunch, pyrak, try a chile relleno (or anything else) at Tropisueno | 20:22 |
| johndoigiii | paulproteus: I went there last week for the first time and it was UHmazing | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | Also try http://www.yelp.com/biz/perilla-san-francisco sometime | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | (-:, johndoigiii | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | These days I can't actually afford to eat out, so I'll keep dreaming of SF. (-: | 20:23 |
| johndoigiii | hehe, I bet there is some good cheap mexican where you're at | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | This month my salary was $1300. Luckily rent is only $355/person/mo where I am right now. | 20:25 |
| johndoigiii | are you in Atlanta? whereabouts exactly? | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | East Point | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | re: 1300: I guess that's more than we give the interns anyawy | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | I have to get dressed for a meeting, tty later! | 20:28 |
| johndoigiii | see ya! | 20:28 |
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| pyrak | did we do a conf call? | 21:20 |
| * pyrak just got back from thai food with cdt ppl | 21:20 | |
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| pyrak | johndoigiii, do you know your way around the jswidget code at all? | 22:20 |
| johndoigiii | pyrak: somewhat, yes | 22:20 |
| pyrak | johndoigiii, i may ask you to sit down with me for 10 minutes to help me get my head around it | 22:23 |
| pyrak | but i'm first going to stare at it a little longer and see if i can figure it out | 22:24 |
| pyrak | fwiw, i'm trying to add cc0 support | 22:24 |
| johndoigiii | okay cool, well i'm in the office so come on over if you need anything | 22:24 |
| johndoigiii | pyrak: eek | 22:24 |
| johndoigiii | jswidget is pretty complicated | 22:25 |
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| pyrak | johndoigiii, ok, i "give up." i'm going to use the bathroom and then come bother you | 22:28 |
| johndoigiii | haha okay cool | 22:28 |
| Bovinity | do we have any LDAP/webcal semantic mediawiki integration? does it exist? | 22:30 |
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| Bovinity | oh, apparently it comes baked in now | 22:33 |
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