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Vinhtantran | About translation: Is there a list of admins? How can I discuss about a translation before suggesting it? | 06:43 |
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nkinkade | johndoigiii: How was is that you got cc.engine to spit out details of each connection such that you got an idea about where the problem was with en_HK? | 16:29 |
johndoigiii | hey nkinkade, the errors I was referencing yesterday weren't correct, the exceptions I was seeing were the result of using the wrong url for a license deed | 16:37 |
nkinkade | johndoigiii: So do you know of a way that I can try to debug that issue with the Deed? | 16:38 |
johndoigiii | using "by/3.0/deed.en_HK" and not the correct one "by/3.0/?lang=en_HK" | 16:38 |
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johndoigiii | nkinkade, one way is to set breakpoints in the app, you can do this by inserting "assert False" wherever you want to stop execution, the paster server should then give you a stack trace which could out | 16:41 |
johndoigiii | does en_HK work on your machine? | 16:42 |
johndoigiii | bc it looks fine on mine | 16:42 |
nkinkade | No, it doesn't. | 16:42 |
johndoigiii | runnning latest trunk version here | 16:42 |
nkinkade | Neither are there any stylesheets. | 16:42 |
nkinkade | Same here. | 16:42 |
johndoigiii | are you using the vh option in your url? | 16:43 |
johndoigiii | none of the media works for me if I use the vh option fwiw | 16:43 |
nkinkade | http://127.0.0.1:8080/++vh++http:localhost:80/++/licenses/by/3.0/?lang=en_HK | 16:45 |
nkinkade | That's the URL I've just tried with. | 16:45 |
nkinkade | Ah, changing 80 in the URL to 8080 got me CSS. | 16:46 |
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nkinkade | Now I have CSS, but no images. | 16:46 |
johndoigiii | yeah, http://127.0.0.1/:8080 should give you the root zope screen | 16:47 |
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johndoigiii | sorry remove the last forward slash | 16:47 |
nkinkade | Yeah, that worked, but I still have no images. | 16:48 |
nkinkade | But that's okay, the important thing to me is the text, which is still missing. | 16:48 |
nkinkade | It displays fine on your machine? You don't have the part that reads "Attribution — char.by_brief" | 16:49 |
nkinkade | And the permitted items have no text. | 16:49 |
johndoigiii | nope, it brings in the localized text | 16:49 |
nkinkade | Hmm. I wonder what's wrong with my checkout. | 16:50 |
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nkinkade | johndoigiii: This URL? http://127.0.0.1:8080/licenses/by/3.0/?lang=en_HK | 16:51 |
johndoigiii | yeah, works | 16:52 |
johndoigiii | instead of char.by_brief i get "Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor." | 16:52 |
nkinkade | But it's not working on staging, which is consistent with what I'm seeing on my machine. | 16:53 |
nkinkade | I suppose that's the important thing. | 16:54 |
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johndoigiii | nkinkade, is staging at the HEAD of trunk? | 17:19 |
johndoigiii | do you think the permissions of the en_HK translation files could be the issue do you? | 17:20 |
nkinkade | I can check the permissions, but if they were wrong I wouldn't expect a single work to come through, right? | 17:21 |
johndoigiii | i just changed them | 17:21 |
johndoigiii | it was nkinkade:nkinkade with 644 | 17:22 |
johndoigiii | changed it so it looks like the others | 17:22 |
nkinkade | That shouldn't matter as long as cc.engine can read, right? | 17:22 |
johndoigiii | also, why is there no pootle pref file in the en_HK | 17:22 |
johndoigiii | yeah it really should make a difference | 17:22 |
nkinkade | Not sure. | 17:22 |
johndoigiii | shouldnt* | 17:22 |
nkinkade | What's in the other pootle.prefs files? | 17:23 |
johndoigiii | looks like permissions for the pootle site | 17:23 |
nkinkade | akozak: Are you working on OpenEd? I just go a SMS that it's down. | 17:23 |
nkinkade | Ah, well I doubt that it's, but you never know. | 17:24 |
johndoigiii | yeah, just trying to find irregularities in the en_HK | 17:24 |
johndoigiii | the translation itself looks fine | 17:24 |
nkinkade | It's so hard to tell if a PO file is good or bad. | 17:25 |
johndoigiii | yeah, true | 17:26 |
nkinkade | There is so much markup in our strings. | 17:26 |
johndoigiii | I am going to revert the cc.engine checkout to the head | 17:26 |
nkinkade | revert it to head? | 17:26 |
nkinkade | Where was it before? | 17:26 |
johndoigiii | of trunk | 17:26 |
johndoigiii | there are some uncommited changes | 17:26 |
johndoigiii | a couple comments, debug prints statements, etc | 17:27 |
akozak | nkinkade: didn't do anything crazy, just installing a couple extensions | 17:27 |
nkinkade | Is the site up? | 17:27 |
johndoigiii | no | 17:27 |
akozak | yikes | 17:27 |
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akozak | ive got it | 17:27 |
nkinkade | akozak: Do you want to get emails or SMS messages about OpenEd? | 17:28 |
akozak | nope | 17:28 |
akozak | errr | 17:28 |
akozak | yes | 17:28 |
akozak | i thought you asked if I did get them | 17:28 |
akozak | nkinkade: fixed, looks like one of these new extensions caused it to break | 17:29 |
akozak | either that or I misplaced a semicolon | 17:30 |
akozak | Ah, misplaced a semicolon. I'll be more careful about that from now on :( | 17:32 |
akozak | Especially since everyone and their mother gets an SMS when I mess up :) | 17:33 |
nkinkade | Not really, unless you consider Nathan Y and I to be everyone and their mother. | 17:36 |
nkinkade | :-) | 17:36 |
akozak | haha ok that's not so bad | 17:38 |
akozak | I'd rather not cause a deluge of texts every day though | 17:39 |
akozak | I might get a talkin to by nathany | 17:40 |
Bovinity | this is why staging is a good idea..... | 17:55 |
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pyrak | i committed a working version of ccsearch with no iframes! | 18:05 |
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pyrak | (in a branch) | 18:06 |
Bovinity | freaky! | 18:06 |
pyrak | code needs a great deal of cleanup, and the design still needs tweaking | 18:06 |
pyrak | heck, the design might need a complete overhaul. what do i know? | 18:07 |
pyrak | it | 18:09 |
pyrak | 's also possible that i've broken some ie hacks in my tinkering | 18:09 |
Bovinity | is search in git yet? | 18:09 |
pyrak | svn | 18:09 |
pyrak | is what i was using | 18:09 |
Bovinity | it's probably ripe for some git-ification | 18:11 |
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johndoigiii | Bovinity: the people page is looking much better | 18:20 |
Bovinity | johndoigiii: thanks! | 18:20 |
Bovinity | hoping to get it public soon | 18:21 |
johndoigiii | awesome | 18:21 |
pyrak | anyone seen this?: http://unite.opera.com/ | 18:25 |
pyrak | it's espcially interesting to me that the discourse in their little video is all about decentralization and individual empowerment | 18:25 |
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Bovinity | johndoigiii: have you been doing any i18n work on DiscoverEd? | 19:01 |
johndoigiii | no, i haven't | 19:02 |
Bovinity | ahrash is reporting it switches to Portuguese when he runs a search query | 19:02 |
johndoigiii | hmm, tell him to check his browser languages | 19:03 |
johndoigiii | make sure portugese is not in his list, unless he wants it to be there of course | 19:04 |
johndoigiii | also ask him to clear his cookies for discvered,cc.org | 19:05 |
akozak | nkinkade: will I get email/SMS about opened now? | 19:13 |
nkinkade | You didn't answer before whether you wanted to or not. At least I didn't see your reply. | 19:16 |
nkinkade | Do you want to get both? | 19:16 |
akozak | nkinkade: yes that'd be nice. | 19:17 |
nkinkade | Both? | 19:17 |
akozak | nkinkade: let me think... | 19:18 |
akozak | nkinkade: sorry, I'm bad about putting your username before my messages | 19:21 |
nkinkade | No problem. I'll see it eventually, but usually right away if my name appears in the message. | 19:23 |
nkinkade | akozak: You should now be configured to get alerts for OpenEd, both email and SMS. | 19:24 |
akozak | nkinkade: Thanks. My guess is most of the time I'll be powerless to do something about it, but maybe I'll be within earshot of someone who is. | 19:25 |
pyrak | akozak, so jeal. tell everyone in nyc i said "sup" | 19:25 |
akozak | pyrak: will do :) | 19:25 |
nkinkade | akozak: Sometimes, probably, but today you could have done something, and you did. | 19:25 |
akozak | who isn't* | 19:25 |
akozak | nkinkade: ah, that's right! | 19:25 |
akozak | a counterexample :) | 19:25 |
pyrak | akozak, you should make a point of meeting my friend adi. he's a cool kid. | 19:25 |
akozak | pyrak: will keep my eyes peeled | 19:26 |
nkinkade | If the server is having troubles in general, then you may not be able to do much, but at least now you'll catch any errors you make and can fix them. | 19:26 |
akozak | nkinkade: Let's hope it doesn't happen often... | 19:27 |
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pyrak-meatballsu | b | 20:21 |
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pyrak | any idea why messages sent to ibiblio mailing lists go through when sent from google apps, and dont when sent from thunderbird? | 21:44 |
TheDJACR | smtp is dead? | 21:45 |
Bovinity | quite. if you use google's smtp server with your apps login, it should work fine | 21:46 |
paulproteus | pyrak, "when sent from Thunderbird" - which SMTP server are you configured to use? | 21:51 |
pyrak | paulproteus, gmail | 21:55 |
pyrak | 's | 21:55 |
pyrak | 1 sec | 21:55 |
paulproteus | Gmail versus Google Apps? | 21:55 |
paulproteus | Whatever, you're in good hands (Bovinity's). | 21:56 |
pyrak | Bovinity, do you use a different mail client? | 21:58 |
paulproteus | (ping me again if you need help, pyrak) | 21:58 |
Bovinity | pyrak: i just use gmail interface | 21:58 |
Bovinity | pyrak: there should be instructions on teamspace for correct smtp setup | 21:59 |
pyrak | Bovinity, oh, ok i'll check | 21:59 |
Bovinity | nkinkade may, or may not, also have a comment on the matter | 21:59 |
pyrak | fwiw, http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/SMTP_SF_Office looks outdated? | 22:01 |
Bovinity | indeed.. This page was last modified on 17 October 2007, at 21:37. | 22:01 |
Bovinity | not the page i was thinking of | 22:01 |
Bovinity | pyrak: http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/GmailMigration | 22:03 |
Bovinity | pyrak: item 3 is relevent. the rest, less so. | 22:03 |
pyrak | Bovinity, right, just found that. so apparently they use the same server for gmail and google apps, but a different port... | 22:04 |
Bovinity | yeah | 22:04 |
pyrak | mmmmmmmweird | 22:04 |
Bovinity | just use your email address as username. it'll magically figure it out. | 22:04 |
pyrak | ok, testing now with an email to cc-staff | 22:12 |
pyrak | Bovinity, received? | 22:12 |
Bovinity | pyrak: aye, sir | 22:13 |
pyrak | win! | 22:13 |
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akozak | opened has a spiffy new favicon thanks to lee-sean | 22:32 |
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pyrak | interestingly, validator.creativecommons.org is down | 23:13 |
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